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(Politico)   John Kerry to overcritical press: Fark all yalls. I'll come back with a disarmed Iran, an independent Palestinian state and a disarming of Syria and you'll still tell me to do better. Fark off   (politico.com) divider line 14
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2013-11-19 09:28:57 AM
First two is never going to happen, because their real masters will never let that happen.
 
2013-11-19 09:29:25 AM
In a strongly worded pronouncement to all y'all motherfarkers, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry urged all y'all to go fark yo' selves Monday. "Y'all be bullshiat," said Kerry in a 3:17 a.m. address from the corner of Woodward Avenue and Grand Boulevard. "And yo' mama, too."  Representatives for all y'all have not yet responded to Kerry's' themselves-farking offer.
 
2013-11-19 09:31:07 AM
Yeah, I can see a lot of Left Behind fans losing their shiat if that trifecta ever happened.
 
2013-11-19 09:37:53 AM
and the Egyptian generals who overthrew an elected government didn't in fact carry out a coup

Oh goodness, don't tell the Islamophobes here that. I've been assured that military coup was democratic, because Muslim.
 
2013-11-19 09:45:02 AM

BSABSVR: Yeah, I can see a lot of Left Behind fans losing their shiat if that trifecta ever happened.


Naw, they'd just view the administration as complicit and secretly helping all 3 states.  Because they're morons who will go out of their way to believe untrue things.
 
2013-11-19 09:51:15 AM
John Kerry has actually been doing a bang-up job as Secretary of State, in spite of the kneejerk derp brigade. He's absolutely right when he asks what the alternatives are.

In the end, sanctions and other negative reinforcement are only going to take you so far. You can't beat everyone into doing your bidding; at some point you have to have a  conversation. The sanctions on Iran, for example, seem to have done their job in getting the Iranians to the table; now proceed cautiously and with eyes open, but don't just blow the whole thing up if they resist your every demand.  There's a difference between an iron fist in a velvet glove and just an iron fist.

Kerry has demonstrated a reasonably deft touch and a willingness to do something that many have not had:  to try.
 
2013-11-19 09:56:31 AM
Don't forget to bring back a live unicorn while you're out on that impossible quest of yours...
Yea I wish him the best of luck and much credit if he accomplishes anything, but these are long sought after goals that no one in the region is willing to give an inch on.

If Iran starts talking disarmament and handshakes, I'd be concerned they're about to shank us in the ribs.
 
2013-11-19 10:01:34 AM
Um, a strategic partnership with Iran, an openly-hostile relationship with Israel, and helping Bashar al-Assad wipe his ass with the bloodstained clothes of his dead citizenry are more realistic short-term goals for Kerry.
 
2013-11-19 10:05:55 AM
US on the verge of international history and the media focused on a crappy web-site and the mayor of Toronto.
 
2013-11-19 10:12:07 AM

mrshowrules: US on the verge of international history and the media focused on a crappy web-site and the mayor of Toronto.


Pretty much. Even if he only gets one of those three he's going to be the biggest foreign policy rockstar we've seen since Kissinger.
 
2013-11-19 10:14:56 AM

Cyclometh: John Kerry has actually been doing a bang-up job as Secretary of State, in spite of the kneejerk derp brigade. He's absolutely right when he asks what the alternatives are.

In the end, sanctions and other negative reinforcement are only going to take you so far. You can't beat everyone into doing your bidding; at some point you have to have a  conversation. The sanctions on Iran, for example, seem to have done their job in getting the Iranians to the table; now proceed cautiously and with eyes open, but don't just blow the whole thing up if they resist your every demand.  There's a difference between an iron fist in a velvet glove and just an iron fist.

Kerry has demonstrated a reasonably deft touch and a willingness to do something that many have not had:  to try.


Exactly. Kerry's been gearing up for the SoS gig for the last 20 years, and it shows with just how easily he can handle international issues. Hell, Clinton was pretty good as SoS, Kerry may top her if he can pull of the closure with Iran, Syria and Israel/Palestine

but the idea that Israel is going to be uber pissed shouldn't be something we should decide is a deal-breaker. They're willing to go in with the Saudis and potentially derail this whole thing, and they can do that sure. They will effectively renounce an alliance with their only real ally in the world doing so, though. I think that's why we're pushing for it now, because even if they want to go against us, they know they can't without committing suicide in the process
 
2013-11-19 12:02:50 PM
Ok, but don't come back until you get all that.
 
2013-11-19 02:35:07 PM
Diplomatic balls. hehe.

In all seriousness though, the only diplomacy the GOP knows is to kill the brown people* and give massages to the white people.

*except brown people in oil-rich countries
 
2013-11-19 04:06:06 PM
The real truth is that if this were the Romney administration, we would be gearing up for full-blown military action.

We dodged a bullet, and the sick thing is half of you voted for him.
 
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