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(The Nation)   Obama reintroduces child labor to save the US economy   (thenation.com) divider line 21
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2013-11-19 08:29:40 AM  
Spreading children's body parts over the fields is one way to salt the earth.
 
2013-11-19 09:45:30 AM  

hinten: Spreading children's body parts over the fields is one way to salt the earth.


Wouldn't that have the opposite effect and fertilize the soil?
 
2013-11-19 09:45:45 AM  
Even if there were strict laws against it, farmers would still salt the earth with underage body parts. Cuz that's how they roll.

/city boy
//talkin outta my rectum
///this is fartbongo's Katrina
 
MFK
2013-11-19 09:46:51 AM  
This sucks.

This is a terrible reminder of why those regulations were there in the first place. Regulations are not implemented to be a "burden on business or commerce" even though they sometimes are just that. Regulations are there because somebody farked up and farked up so bad that they had to pass a law to make sure that other people didn't make the same farkup.  Even innocuous sounding things like "why won't Obama let kids help out on the farm?" That got traction and on its face seemed harmless enough for Obama to relax these regulations, but here we are again with more dead kids because in reality, "helping out on the farm" can be dangerous to children. Thanks GOP.
 
2013-11-19 09:51:28 AM  
When I was a kid my dad conscripted me into rehabbing houses. I never got a dime from that. But I did learn how to do drywall, some plumbing, electrical work etc...
 
2013-11-19 09:53:55 AM  
Yeah, because farmers in the Midwest weren't paying 15 year olds to drive old IH's at all before this regulation was revoked.

Christ, the Mennonites in Kansas sometimes have to strap wooden blocks to the feet of their kids so they can reach the pedals of the wheat trucks during harvest.
 
2013-11-19 09:54:49 AM  
No regulations were repealed -- they blocked the implementation of new regulations.

/actually read the article
 
2013-11-19 09:56:28 AM  

hoohoodilly: Even if there were strict laws against it, farmers would still salt the earth with underage body parts. Cuz that's how they roll.

/city boy
//talkin outta my rectum
///this is fartbongo's Katrina


It doesn't have to be Katrina to still be wrong.
 
2013-11-19 09:58:41 AM  
stop


the farm regulation of farmers kids drew a lot of bad response from farmers and was proposed by the dept of labor

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/26/labor-dept-drops-regulations-b an ning-kids-from-working-on-farms-other-than-parents/

Parents and children who grew up on farms across the country told TheDC that the rule was overprotective and would have prevented kids from learning valuable skills at early ages.

article is slanted so many ways

1. is made to be political
2. regulation would remove/reduce the number of people that can do it for the future
--(i have done it - i know what it looks like - couldnt do it now and you cant just hire people off the street to do it)
3. i'll stop here
 
2013-11-19 10:07:04 AM  

bindlestiff2600: stop


the farm regulation of farmers kids drew a lot of bad response from farmers and was proposed by the dept of labor

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/26/labor-dept-drops-regulations-b an ning-kids-from-working-on-farms-other-than-parents/

Parents and children who grew up on farms across the country told TheDC that the rule was overprotective and would have prevented kids from learning valuable skills at early ages.

article is slanted so many ways

1. is made to be political
2. regulation would remove/reduce the number of people that can do it for the future
--(i have done it - i know what it looks like - couldnt do it now and you cant just hire people off the street to do it)
3. i'll stop here



Ah, of course, that explains it and makes it perfectly fine. Thanks for explaining to us that this is all about Democrats trying to break down the family unit and work discipline that we all enjoyed during the good old days.
 
2013-11-19 10:11:17 AM  

Dog Welder: No regulations were repealed -- they blocked the implementation of new regulations.

/actually read the article


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2013-11-19 10:13:28 AM  

MFK: This sucks.

This is a terrible reminder of why those regulations were there in the first place. Regulations are not implemented to be a "burden on business or commerce" even though they sometimes are just that. Regulations are there because somebody farked up and farked up so bad that they had to pass a law to make sure that other people didn't make the same farkup.  Even innocuous sounding things like "why won't Obama let kids help out on the farm?" That got traction and on its face seemed harmless enough for Obama to relax these regulations, but here we are again with more dead kids because in reality, "helping out on the farm" can be dangerous to children. Thanks GOP.


And yet, I look at the article and see nothing but breathless, pointless hyperbole.

The people who need to learn from this will learn nothing. Gun violence? An isolated incident, to be tolerated because  Freedom!™. Utter and complete lack of preparedness in the face of natural disasters? Come on, how often do  those happen, and being prepared  all the time would just cost  way too much. Preventative medicine? Why, when there's nothing wrong with me now? Poverty? Clearly those people are  lazy, or  stupid because they're working sixty hours a week in the  wrong jobs lol! Children risking their lives on dangerous jobs? Well, if it doesn't kill them, they come away with valuable job experience, so there's that.

And the rest of us ...tolerate these attitudes for some reason. Oh sure, we don't like them, but we never develop a  proper hate for the people that espouse such things and we're far too well-mannered to voice them. Not that we think confronting them will do any good anyway.

So dead kids? One more straw on the stack of hay bales that all but obscures the greasy flat spot where there once stood a camel. I'm coming to accept it as a necessary cost of living among such people.
 
2013-11-19 10:18:54 AM  

Crabs_Can_Polevault: MFK: This sucks.

This is a terrible reminder of why those regulations were there in the first place. Regulations are not implemented to be a "burden on business or commerce" even though they sometimes are just that. Regulations are there because somebody farked up and farked up so bad that they had to pass a law to make sure that other people didn't make the same farkup.  Even innocuous sounding things like "why won't Obama let kids help out on the farm?" That got traction and on its face seemed harmless enough for Obama to relax these regulations, but here we are again with more dead kids because in reality, "helping out on the farm" can be dangerous to children. Thanks GOP.

And yet, I look at the article and see nothing but breathless, pointless hyperbole.

The people who need to learn from this will learn nothing. Gun violence? An isolated incident, to be tolerated because  Freedom!™. Utter and complete lack of preparedness in the face of natural disasters? Come on, how often do  those happen, and being prepared  all the time would just cost  way too much. Preventative medicine? Why, when there's nothing wrong with me now? Poverty? Clearly those people are  lazy, or  stupid because they're working sixty hours a week in the  wrong jobs lol! Children risking their lives on dangerous jobs? Well, if it doesn't kill them, they come away with valuable job experience, so there's that.

And the rest of us ...tolerate these attitudes for some reason. Oh sure, we don't like them, but we never develop a  proper hate for the people that espouse such things and we're far too well-mannered to voice them. Not that we think confronting them will do any good anyway.

So dead kids? One more straw on the stack of hay bales that all but obscures the greasy flat spot where there once stood a camel. I'm coming to accept it as a necessary cost of living among such people.


I think you're being a bit dramatic over kids helping out on the farm
 
kab
2013-11-19 10:51:26 AM  
A kid very willingly wanting to do odd jobs to earn money?  Turrible

12 year olds putting your smart phone together?  That's awesome.  Pay them less, my stocks need a boost.

This article is the dumbest thing you'll read all week.
 
2013-11-19 11:36:16 AM  
Life is dangerous, people die.  Get over it.
 
2013-11-19 12:03:08 PM  
I like how they jump to blame Obama for the fact that they were allowing their underage son to perform dangerous jobs.
 
2013-11-19 12:22:02 PM  

jayhawk88: Yeah, because farmers in the Midwest weren't paying 15 year olds to drive old IH's at all before this regulation was revoked.

Christ, the Mennonites in Kansas sometimes have to strap wooden blocks to the feet of their kids so they can reach the pedals of the wheat trucks during harvest.


I caught hell from the other farm kids at school because my mom wouldn't let my dad teach me how to drive a tractor at 12.

//Still don't know how to drive a tractor, at 33.
 
2013-11-19 01:13:12 PM  
First off, the regulations were not approved.

Second off, the tragic story the article starts off with and spends the most time on is completely misleading in context of the actual laws on the books.

Agricultural labor is more permissive for kids not because we don't care about kids, but because THEY ARE GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY.  The vast majority of kids working in agriculture are family members, and they're going to be helping mom or dad or uncle larry no matter what just because that's what the family needs.  This exception in federal labor regulations doesn't expose them to any more risk than what they were going to be exposed to anyway - the only thing it does is it allows them to be paid.
 
2013-11-19 05:20:08 PM  

Dog Welder: No regulations were repealed -- they blocked the implementation of new regulations.

/actually read the article


Came here to say this. The Obama administration proposed more stringent rules, and there was an uproar.

So, Obama admin tied to make it better. People, mostly from red states (if we're talking agriculture), got in the way. Sound familiar?
 
2013-11-19 06:57:15 PM  
If only parents had the ability to tell their kids that they shouldn't do certain activities.
 
2013-11-19 10:10:39 PM  
Kids have worked on their family farms since long before the US was officially a country. Creating new regulations will not stop this practice, and it will only serve to turn farmers into lawbreakers.

Compare the number of kids killed on the farms each year, to the number of kids killed driving cars or riding bikes, and that ought to put things in perspective. I'm gonna have to call fake outrage on this one.
 
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