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2013-11-19 07:54:19 AM
If you don't follow through on threats, your children will never respect your authority.
 
2013-11-19 08:05:12 AM
TFA:   "using drugs, stealing money, running away, the standard teen issues"

Really?
 
2013-11-19 08:39:02 AM
Oh, it's this story again.

Even the Daily Fail covered this on October 23:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2473859/US-teen-sent-live-Si be ria-mother-begs-come-home.html
 
2013-11-19 09:39:34 AM
She was stealing money and disobeyed her mother. She knows she comes from siberian heritage. Even as a teenager you should know not to fark around with your russian parents. Her father might have been a drunk that beat her, but this was a consensual decision between her mother and father.

That said, it's been two years. I think if she returned home she would not consider being a such a biatch and would actually listen to her mother.
 
2013-11-19 09:39:39 AM
FTFA:The mother says Sofia was way out of control, using drugs, stealing money, running away, the standard teen issues that make parents tear their hair out.

As the parent of a teenager and a soon-to-be teenager, allow me to simply say this: Fark you. Those are NOT "standard" problems for a teenager. That doesn't mean it's completely the parent's fault, but god dammit, stop assuming that theft and drug use are the baseline for youth behavior, because that makes you part of the problem, you stupid bastards.
 
2013-11-19 09:40:15 AM
I like how they say she's a hundred miles from nowhere and then say she's in Russia's third biggest city.
 
2013-11-19 09:43:39 AM
I went to Syberia.
upload.wikimedia.org

It was a pretty cool adventure.
 
2013-11-19 09:48:53 AM
The article states that she's not an American citizen.

I fail to see how sending a Russian back to Russia qualifies as something we should find 'Strange.'
 
2013-11-19 09:50:34 AM
So sending her to live with her aunt and uncle in Bel Air was out of the question

img.fark.net
 
2013-11-19 09:51:52 AM
'I pay for my school. I study via the Internet. I study in American high school. I want to graduate in an American school. And I just hope it is not a scam,' she said.

I like how all this blatant appeal-to-emotion in this article has this little gem in it. If the Washington Post cares so farking much, they could have at least sent their 'journalists' to see whether or not the poor girl was being scammed on her high school education.

This girl was a biatch when she was 14. Her immigration lawyer stepfather probably had something to do with it, sure. But she stole $1,000, invited boys without permission and for all intents and purposes was an uncontrollable teenager who refused to obey. I'm sure she wants to come home, and maybe she should. But that's her mother's choice. Nothing else has even been verified in the article. She says her father was a drunk and beat her. But we only have her word on that. I don't see anyone following up with her father to see if it was true or not.

Unless this is one of those cases where the accusation is the evidence.

For all I know she was just as much a biatch to her father as she was to her mother and he told her to gtfo. That's some fine journalism, Lou.
 
2013-11-19 09:52:46 AM

Weatherkiss: She knows she comes from siberian heritage.


I'm of German heritage, when I was a teen my parents sent me to youth camp in Argentina.  We sang songs, marched and prepared for the fourth something or another. Did me a world of good.

Seriously this headline could read, Troubled teen sent to live with father, film at 11
 
2013-11-19 09:55:21 AM

Cheron: I'm of German heritage, when I was a teen my parents sent me to youth camp in Argentina. We sang songs, marched and prepared for the fourth something or another. Did me a world of good.


Would you go as far as to say it was a final solution?
 
2013-11-19 09:56:03 AM
The YouTube video referenced in the article (Motivational Mondays #2 My Story ) gives some insight into why the girl may have acted the way she did.  Not saying it excuses all of her behavior.  However, assuming half of what she says is true, she wasn't exactly brought up in a nuclear family household.
 
2013-11-19 09:59:41 AM
I've told my kids that if they get involved with hard drugs or crime, I'll pack them up and off to backwoods Alaska where we will all have to struggle to survive.

In other words, I'll jerk them out of the world so fast that there will be a loud noise from the vacuum they leave behind.
 
2013-11-19 10:00:24 AM

memtastic: The YouTube video referenced in the article (Motivational Mondays #2 My Story ) gives some insight into why the girl may have acted the way she did.  Not saying it excuses all of her behavior.  However, assuming half of what she says is true, she wasn't exactly brought up in a nuclear family household.


Didn't watch the video, but if she's a pathological liar (according to her mother), I have a hard time believing her words at face value. I mean if she's going to lie and say she sold drugs to cover up the fact she stole $1,000 dollars from her mother... at this point I'm fairly sure she'll say anything she possibly can to get back to America whether or not it's true. She knows this appeal to emotion seems to be working in her favor with the public, so it wouldn't surprise me if she's trying sob stories to make up for the fact she was simply unruly and uncontrollable.

Maybe I'll watch the video later when I'm bored. But from what I've read... the whole thing seems dubious. The journalists want a heart-wrenching emotional story, but there are a lot of massive details they're leaving out. And when the girl has proven to be a liar, you can't really trust her either.
 
2013-11-19 10:03:05 AM
She could always come back to the US in a few months as Russian mail order bride.
 
2013-11-19 10:06:17 AM
Two years? I bet she speaks Russian now.
 
2013-11-19 10:08:44 AM
Don't mess with Russian women. They are very practical and a little selfish. Her daughter found that out the hard way.

The US should kick the mom back to Russia too though for being a failed parent.
 
2013-11-19 10:11:14 AM
Hey, at least she didn't send her to Crozet.

/virginia's gulag
 
2013-11-19 10:11:34 AM

KawaiiNot: Don't mess with Russian women. They are very practical and a little selfish. Her daughter found that out the hard way.

The US should kick the mom back to Russia too though for being a failed parent.


Mom's a US citizen. Daughter isn't.
 
2013-11-19 10:14:03 AM
Russians.
 
2013-11-19 10:15:26 AM

Sandvich is loose cannon: Russians.


Entire article is babies.
 
2013-11-19 10:27:08 AM
"The mother says Sofia was way out of control, using drugs, stealing money, running away, the standard teen issues that make parents tear their hair out."

I'm guessing Sofia asked for a Pepsi one too many times.
 
2013-11-19 10:31:10 AM
I've actually met a woman from Novosibirsk; she's working in a local restaurant while going to college here. Very attractive, and the accent makes her even hotter.

/no I don't have a photo
//she was impressed when I said I knew where Novosibirsk was
///yes I do; in the middle of nowhere
 
2013-11-19 10:40:37 AM
So Russian mother sends Russian daughter back to Russia to live with Russian father. Daughter is not a US citizen. He mother was stupid for not seeking US citizenship, especially for her daughter but how is this the USA's problem? Either apply for a visa and appeal to the fact she's a minor and her legal guardian is in the US or do like everyone else does and just overstay a tourist visa.
 
2013-11-19 10:46:53 AM
Good.
 
2013-11-19 10:47:21 AM
I read the headline as "VIRGIN mother sends daughter to Siberia". Which might be a good thing considering how the last virgin mother's kid ended up.
 
2013-11-19 10:48:00 AM
Okay, so some do-gooder will bring her back in time to avoid the "you're 18 now...go to the back of the line", but what I suspect the USG would rather see happen is that she stay in Russia so they can claim, "See, we don't give preferential treatment to white people."

/only half kidding
 
2013-11-19 10:58:59 AM

drewbob21: She could always come back to the US in a few months as Russian mail order bride.


Ha, this.
 
2013-11-19 11:16:17 AM

Weatherkiss: KawaiiNot: Don't mess with Russian women. They are very practical and a little selfish. Her daughter found that out the hard way.

The US should kick the mom back to Russia too though for being a failed parent.

Mom's a US citizen. Daughter isn't.


Don't we usually make fun of people who think children don't inherit US citizenship from their white mothers?
 
2013-11-19 11:30:18 AM

Bondith: Weatherkiss: KawaiiNot: Don't mess with Russian women. They are very practical and a little selfish. Her daughter found that out the hard way.

The US should kick the mom back to Russia too though for being a failed parent.

Mom's a US citizen. Daughter isn't.

Don't we usually make fun of people who think children don't inherit US citizenship from their white mothers?


Her mother wasn't originally a U.S. citizen. Her daughter was born in Russia. She came to America with her mother when she was 2 years old. Her mother had a student visa, and she later became a U.S. Citizen. Her daughter is not a citizen, though.
 
2013-11-19 11:37:42 AM

Cheron: Weatherkiss: She knows she comes from siberian heritage.

I'm of German heritage, when I was a teen my parents sent me to youth camp in Argentina.  We sang songs, marched and prepared for the fourth something or another. Did me a world of good.

Seriously this headline could read, Troubled teen sent to live with father, film at 11


Dr. Kreiger?
 
2013-11-19 11:51:59 AM

Infernalist: The article states that she's not an American citizen.

I fail to see how sending a Russian back to Russia qualifies as something we should find 'Strange.'


The article also says she speaks no Russian, so yes, 'Strange'.
 
2013-11-19 11:54:44 AM

Weatherkiss: memtastic: The YouTube video referenced in the article (Motivational Mondays #2 My Story ) gives some insight into why the girl may have acted the way she did.  Not saying it excuses all of her behavior.  However, assuming half of what she says is true, she wasn't exactly brought up in a nuclear family household.

Didn't watch the video, but if she's a pathological liar (according to her mother), I have a hard time believing her words at face value. I mean if she's going to lie and say she sold drugs to cover up the fact she stole $1,000 dollars from her mother... at this point I'm fairly sure she'll say anything she possibly can to get back to America whether or not it's true. She knows this appeal to emotion seems to be working in her favor with the public, so it wouldn't surprise me if she's trying sob stories to make up for the fact she was simply unruly and uncontrollable.

Maybe I'll watch the video later when I'm bored. But from what I've read... the whole thing seems dubious. The journalists want a heart-wrenching emotional story, but there are a lot of massive details they're leaving out. And when the girl has proven to be a liar, you can't really trust her either.


You sure have run your mouth off a lot about the situation for someone who didn't even do a minimum of research.
 
2013-11-19 12:02:08 PM
Browsing the US immigration website it looks like the girl would have qualified for US citizenship if A.The mother had ever bothered to apply her for it
B. She hadn't given up custody by sending the kid to Russia.
 
2013-11-19 12:37:54 PM

Babwa Wawa: TFA:   "using drugs, stealing money, running away, the standard teen issues"

Really?


Doesn't it make you yearn for a time when "standard teen issues" weren't criminal acts, but things like not completing homework, or cleaning one's room.

Just more muddying of morals, making up gray areas where there are none. Right and wrong always has been, always will be black and white, regardless of how some try to twist things.
 
2013-11-19 12:48:13 PM

Sybarite: If you don't follow through on threats, your children will never respect your authority.


You don't f*ck with Eastern European or Russian parents.

My Polish friend? She literally sent her (barely) teenage daughter to live in the backwoods of Poland for a year with a family friend for talking back one too many times. A year without intarwebs, cell service, and computers except at school.

Her friend, Katarzyna, kept her daughter under a strict curfew with chores. She and my friend both grew up under the communists, and experienced real hardship.

After her daughter returned home you better believe her attitude had improved.
 
2013-11-19 12:50:00 PM

lycanth: Doesn't it make you yearn for a time when "standard teen issues" weren't criminal acts, but things like not completing homework, or cleaning one's room.


The reality is that they aren't standard issues - particular theft and uncontrolled behavior.  Even drug use isn't standard teen behavior - less than 30% have used pot in the last year.
 
2013-11-19 12:53:08 PM
Damn my parents only threatened to send us to Ohio.
 
2013-11-19 01:00:04 PM
Wow. No comments about "cute" and "now 17." This is not the Fark I know. Not complaining, just surprised.
 
2013-11-19 01:14:47 PM

MBooda: Hey, at least she didn't send her to Crozet.

/virginia's gulag


Made me spit water over my keyboard. Awesome!
 
2013-11-19 01:31:50 PM
It was that or berrying her in the back yard.
 
2013-11-19 01:34:51 PM
I'd give her a right proper gulaging
 
2013-11-19 01:38:32 PM
My hubs has dual citizenship. If one of my kids where in a gang or into drugs, we'd be visiting the "old country" in a heart beat.
 
2013-11-19 02:13:18 PM

mama4mooing: My hubs has dual citizenship. If one of my kids where in a gang or into drugs, we'd be visiting the "old country" in a heart beat.


Busch Gardens, Williamsburg?
 
2013-11-19 02:21:16 PM

inglixthemad: Sybarite: If you don't follow through on threats, your children will never respect your authority.

You don't f*ck with Eastern European or Russian parents.

My Polish friend? She literally sent her (barely) teenage daughter to live in the backwoods of Poland for a year with a family friend for talking back one too many times. A year without intarwebs, cell service, and computers except at school.

Her friend, Katarzyna, kept her daughter under a strict curfew with chores. She and my friend both grew up under the communists, and experienced real hardship.

After her daughter returned home you better believe her attitude had improved.


^^this.

My Ukrainian friend had a cousin that did this, with much success. Friend's second cousin was a royal bastard with a lengthy juvie record, after a year of his shenanigans, friend's cousin shipped kid off to live with hard-line, hard-core, I-lived-on-the-kholkoz-and-survived uncle in some eastern Ukrainian backwater town.

After two years, kid came back, finished school and then MOVED BACK to said backwater town to help uncle run his farm/farrier operation. As far as I know, he's still there.

My dad is Croatian, and the old country threat peppered our chats from time to time. Alas it was an empty threat, as his relatives live near the Dalmatian coast.
 
2013-11-19 02:30:00 PM
Frankly, I'm not inclined to let my heart-strings be pulled by this story because I strongly suspect there's more to it than what's being told.
 
2013-11-19 02:34:44 PM

laughin: mama4mooing: My hubs has dual citizenship. If one of my kids where in a gang or into drugs, we'd be visiting the "old country" in a heart beat.

Busch Gardens, Williamsburg?


Ha, Poland. Not quite Siberia but far enough away from home if drastic measures are needed. You hear the stories of parents trying to keep bad elements away from there kids... We have an escape plan.
 
2013-11-19 03:20:29 PM

groppet: Damn my parents only threatened to send us to Ohio.


that would scare me straight.
 
2013-11-19 04:40:56 PM

Weatherkiss: KawaiiNot: Don't mess with Russian women. They are very practical and a little selfish. Her daughter found that out the hard way.

The US should kick the mom back to Russia too though for being a failed parent.

Mom's a US citizen. Daughter isn't.


<rereads TFA>

Daughter even admits she's not a US citizen.

I'm going to go shut the hell up now.
 
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