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2013-11-18 03:34:42 PM

homelessdude: nothing new....but always worth re-linking.

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Those Waltons. They look so happy............and well fed.


You sound jealous
 
2013-11-18 03:34:59 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: cynicalminion: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Mr. Coffee Nerves: I can't wait to see one of the Walton kids be flown to this store in their Sikorsky S-76C, land in the parking lot, have a Maybach take them from the chopper to the front door, get out of the car with a single expired can of pumpkin mix...and throw it at the manager who came up with this idea before firing him.

Sam's Choice brand, of course.  and it was probably pulled from the Grocery department return cart, which has been sitting behind the customer service desk all day with now spoiled milk and meat products in it.

don't joke about that.  it's true... oh, and don't forget all the cleaning products that get tossed in the grocery returns because that's where they're kept.

I'm not joking, trust me.  I worked at Fail-mart when I was in college.  The return carts are the pit of hell.


my all-time favorite "nope, i'm getting close to an OT write-up, i'm going home now" story is the night that we discovered that one of the car batteries was leaking...
 
2013-11-18 03:35:03 PM

Ihaveanevilparrot: Prophet of Loss: And yet people shop there in record numbers because ... they can't afford to shop anywhere else.

/"Its the cirrrrrrcccle of dystopiaaaaa!"

Hell, at this point Walmart isn't really all that cheap, so I don't get it, unless Walmart is the only place to shop in an area other than convenience stores.

I save way more loading coupons onto my Kroger card and shopping there during sales. Every time I go to Walmart (generally only late at night when I suddenly need something) I notice what I need is usually more than I could have gotten it somewhere else. If anywhere else is open I avoid Walmart like the plague.

Not to mention they seem absolutely incapable of opening more lanes when the lines get long (didn't one of their advertisements used to be that they always open an extra lane when a certain amount of people are in line?), and besides which they won't even keep all their self checkouts open. There are usually like 2-3 open out of 12. It's even worse when the cashier is usually some old arthritic lady who may be in early stages of dementia and scans the items as slowly as possible, and periodically gets confused as to where they are at and what they were doing.


It depends on how much you time is worth. How much time do you spend on your coupon addiction per week? If that time was paid at minimum wage and added to the total, did you really save any money?
 
2013-11-18 03:38:07 PM
This reminds me - I haven't been up to see Crystal Bridges yet.
 
2013-11-18 03:38:38 PM

Joe Blowme: homelessdude: nothing new....but always worth re-linking.

#9, #10, #11, #12

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Those Waltons. They look so happy............and well fed.

You sound jealous


this is not jealousy, this is simple hypocrisy.  going into the part-time job i have now, i'm still making more than i did full-time after four years at walmart.  the current crop of waltons basically inherited an oil field.  and they're bleeding it dry.
 
2013-11-18 03:40:15 PM

letrole: Anyone who makes snide remarks about Wal-Mart also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Drink microbrewery beer
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac


7. Yes.  All the rest. No.  Hipsters and Vegans aren't the only people that hate Walmart
 
2013-11-18 03:41:06 PM

cynicalminion: Joe Blowme: homelessdude: nothing new....but always worth re-linking.

#9, #10, #11, #12

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Those Waltons. They look so happy............and well fed.

You sound jealous

this is not jealousy, this is simple hypocrisy.  going into the part-time job i have now, i'm still making more than i did full-time after four years at walmart.  the current crop of waltons basically inherited an oil field.  and they're bleeding it dry.


Start you own retail store and then pay your employees anything you want.

/some are so generous with other peoples money
 
2013-11-18 03:41:14 PM
Welcome to twenty years ago when this was a thing, nothing was done then and nothing will be done now.
 
2013-11-18 03:42:17 PM

FinFangFark: Grand_Moff_Joseph: cynicalminion: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Mr. Coffee Nerves: I can't wait to see one of the Walton kids be flown to this store in their Sikorsky S-76C, land in the parking lot, have a Maybach take them from the chopper to the front door, get out of the car with a single expired can of pumpkin mix...and throw it at the manager who came up with this idea before firing him.

Sam's Choice brand, of course.  and it was probably pulled from the Grocery department return cart, which has been sitting behind the customer service desk all day with now spoiled milk and meat products in it.

don't joke about that.  it's true... oh, and don't forget all the cleaning products that get tossed in the grocery returns because that's where they're kept.

I'm not joking, trust me.  I worked at Fail-mart when I was in college.  The return carts are the pit of hell.

I don't know how long ago that was...but I remember reading somewhere that something like nearly a quarter of all of Walmart employees quality for welfare.  I know there are several mitigating factors that come in to play with that.  But when the majority of the Walmart break rooms have postings from their HR departments on how to apply for welfare...there's just something so wrong with that.


It's higher than that now, for sure.  I worked there between 2004-2005, and nearly every other employee that I knew (besides fellow students) were on some combination of WIC, foodstamps, Medicaid, SSD, and general welfare.  Finding someone to approve a shift switch or time off request was impossible, but there were multiple info kiosks in the back to help employees file for any/all of the above mentioned benefits.
 
2013-11-18 03:42:30 PM
I loathe Wal-Mart and do not shop there (I also don't shop at Sam's Club to be clear).

This is just ANOTHER example of something that was probably a good idea and in other workplaces might not have gotten this sort of press, but given how many of their employees are on Federal supplemental income, just is really bad. While I understand the concept of business being to make money, when you rake in nearly 16B in profit, why should you ask your already minimum wage earners to donate from their salary instead of perhaps your central pot of "let's help our employees" money? :: shrugs :: I get it, I'm a dreamer.

I was reading a study that focused on 12 or so states (I tried to google for it now and couldn't find it again, of course) and in nearly every one of them the top 2 employers that had employees on assistance were McDonald's and Wal-Mart. Publix / GIANT were also featured a few times. I know that there is a proportion going on in part of this study (i.e. Walmart and McDonald's employee X more folks than the other companies which could make the math fuzzy), but it's still disappointing.

Yes, I know other discount chains have similar practices... it just seems like you hear about Wal-Mart more frequently than the others.
 
2013-11-18 03:43:25 PM
They probably figure that most of those donations will be purchased that their store. More sales!
 
2013-11-18 03:44:06 PM
Its funny that we are technically our own keepers since America is a representational democracy and we choose to abuse ourselves on the aggregate.

It amazing how so many individual selfish actions amount to a lower standard of living for nearly everyone.
 
2013-11-18 03:45:27 PM
Corporate Death Penalty?
 
2013-11-18 03:45:39 PM

whidbey: orclover: If you are expecting a non terrestrial super powered invisible being to right the scales of such injustices, then you are part of the problem.

This will only get worse.  A lot worse.

Actually a virus might solve the whole thing.


encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com

You called?
 
2013-11-18 03:45:58 PM

Prophet of Loss: Its funny that we are technically our own keepers since America is a representational democracy and we choose to abuse ourselves on the aggregate.

It amazing how so many individual selfish actions amount to a lower standard of living for nearly everyone.


I know right?  And the level of hubris in the upper class is truly appalling.  I mean, at least Caligula was entertaining.
 
2013-11-18 03:46:03 PM

cynicalminion: Grand_Moff_Joseph: cynicalminion: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Mr. Coffee Nerves: I can't wait to see one of the Walton kids be flown to this store in their Sikorsky S-76C, land in the parking lot, have a Maybach take them from the chopper to the front door, get out of the car with a single expired can of pumpkin mix...and throw it at the manager who came up with this idea before firing him.

Sam's Choice brand, of course.  and it was probably pulled from the Grocery department return cart, which has been sitting behind the customer service desk all day with now spoiled milk and meat products in it.

don't joke about that.  it's true... oh, and don't forget all the cleaning products that get tossed in the grocery returns because that's where they're kept.

I'm not joking, trust me.  I worked at Fail-mart when I was in college.  The return carts are the pit of hell.

my all-time favorite "nope, i'm getting close to an OT write-up, i'm going home now" story is the night that we discovered that one of the car batteries was leaking...


I vividly recall seeing a fellow cashier literally dragged off of her register and pulled - at a near run - to the back to clock out early because she was about to hit 40 hours for the week.

Oh, and there was a customer at the register at the time, in the middle of having their items rung up.  A CSM jumped into the register and tried to act as if nothing had happened at all.
 
2013-11-18 03:47:02 PM
The fact is that the employees choose to work there, just like the consumers choose to shop there.  You can't act like they don't have any other options.  They just may not like those options.  At the end of the day, if they refused to work for those wages, the wages would go up, or would go to people who are willing to work for those wages.

Go work somewhere else.  What?  Nobody else is handing out money to people who haven't bothered to learn a trade, get a degree, etc?  Let's all cry like little biatches about it.  That will solve it.  Better yet, let's cry until some moron in the government passes a law to fix it.  Then start crying about the prices going up.  Start crying about the little businesses that go under.

Guess who loses?  Guess who pays?  All you sell-outs who still shop at WalMart (and the other stores that treat their employees like crap).

// Won't shop at WalMart
 
2013-11-18 03:47:04 PM
Yeah, WalMart suck but they couldn't have done it without Hillary sitting on the Board of Directors while Bill signed all of the treaties to help them send our jobs to China but you will all still vote for her and continue to complain.
 
2013-11-18 03:47:13 PM
Ihaveanevilparrot:
Not to mention they seem absolutely incapable of opening more lanes when the lines get long (didn't one of their advertisements used to be that they always open an extra lane when a certain amount of people are in line?), and besides which they won't even keep all their self checkouts open. There are usually like 2-3 open out of 12. It's even worse when the cashier is usually some old arthritic lady who may be in early stages of dementia and scans the items as slowly as possible, and periodically gets confused as to where they are at and what they were doing.

your personal experiences with aging demented arthritic cashiers aside, while i was working there, there were MANY times where people asked why we couldn't have more registers open, and the answer is "every single register-trained associate in the building is currently operating a register"  (this was before my store installed the self-checkouts, so can't argue that point... but really, all those registers are there for one reason.  this year, it's the 29th.  they don't determine how many registers a store has based on their employee coverage... otherwise you'd never find more than 6 checkouts in a walmart.
 
2013-11-18 03:48:14 PM

letrole: Anyone who makes snide remarks about Wal-Mart also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Drink microbrewery beer
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac


People who make derogatory blanket statements instead of a counter argument tend to:
1. Be morons.
2. Troll internet forums.
 
2013-11-18 03:48:29 PM
And thanks to walmart, poor people can have semi nice things. Now get your shiat and get out
 
2013-11-18 03:49:19 PM

orclover: This will only get worse. A lot worse.


Blood in the streets, at some point.
 
2013-11-18 03:49:24 PM

Dirty Doug: The fact is that the employees choose to work there, just like the consumers choose to shop there.  You can't act like they don't have any other options.  They just may not like those options.  At the end of the day, if they refused to work for those wages, the wages would go up, or would go to people who are willing to work for those wages.

Go work somewhere else.  What?  Nobody else is handing out money to people who haven't bothered to learn a trade, get a degree, etc?  Let's all cry like little biatches about it.  That will solve it.  Better yet, let's cry until some moron in the government passes a law to fix it.  Then start crying about the prices going up.  Start crying about the little businesses that go under.

Guess who loses?  Guess who pays?  All you sell-outs who still shop at WalMart (and the other stores that treat their employees like crap).

// Won't shop at WalMart


Wow man, so you think Unions will fix the problem... right?
 
2013-11-18 03:49:24 PM
US banks received $83 billion in public money this year because they're "too big to fail".
 
2013-11-18 03:50:11 PM
They should feed them all the McDonald's leftovers
 
2013-11-18 03:50:18 PM

Joe Blowme: cynicalminion: Joe Blowme: homelessdude: nothing new....but always worth re-linking.

#9, #10, #11, #12

Bloomberg Billionaires List
Today's ranking of the world's richest people
[i.imgur.com image 450x206]

Those Waltons. They look so happy............and well fed.

You sound jealous

this is not jealousy, this is simple hypocrisy.  going into the part-time job i have now, i'm still making more than i did full-time after four years at walmart.  the current crop of waltons basically inherited an oil field.  and they're bleeding it dry.

Start you own retail store and then pay your employees anything you want.

/some are so generous with other peoples money


umm, they didn't start it.  and paying employees "anything you want" is why minimum wage laws are in place.
 
2013-11-18 03:50:54 PM
At the bottom of TFA: The original version of this story stated that Wal-Mart was asking customers to donate food. The food drive is actually among employees. Also in TFA:  "This store has been doing this for several years and is for associates that have faced an extreme hardship recently," spokesman Kory Lundberg told us.

Sounds to me like the store's employees are just being compassionate to their fellow coworkers during the holiday season.

Obviously, this is an outrage.
 
2013-11-18 03:51:29 PM

Joe Blowme: And thanks to walmart, poor people can have semi nice things. Now get your shiat and get out


img.fark.net
 
2013-11-18 03:51:47 PM
Aren't the owners of Wal-Mart edible?
 
2013-11-18 03:51:55 PM

Lord Summerisle: US banks received $83 billion in public money this year because they're "too big to fail".


It's 83B$ a MONTH, and probably a LOT more once (if?) you can track down all the insider 0% deals they have going on with the fed.  Its a total circle jerk.
 
2013-11-18 03:51:56 PM

Dirty Doug: The fact is that the employees choose to work there, just like the consumers choose to shop there.  You can't act like they don't have any other options.  They just may not like those options.  At the end of the day, if they refused to work for those wages, the wages would go up, or would go to people who are willing to work for those wages.

Go work somewhere else.  What?  Nobody else is handing out money to people who haven't bothered to learn a trade, get a degree, etc?  Let's all cry like little biatches about it.  That will solve it.  Better yet, let's cry until some moron in the government passes a law to fix it.  Then start crying about the prices going up.  Start crying about the little businesses that go under.

Guess who loses?  Guess who pays?  All you sell-outs who still shop at WalMart (and the other stores that treat their employees like crap).

// Won't shop at WalMart


not sure if serious
 
2013-11-18 03:52:19 PM

letrole: Anyone who makes snide remarks about Wal-Mart also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Drink microbrewery beer
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac


No.
Yes.
No.
No.
Depends on if I got a shot.
No.
No.
Yes.
I'm not feigning disgust. It's real.
 
2013-11-18 03:52:35 PM
I love how all the turds form the politics tab waddle their way into a thread and try to turn it in to a political discussion about the fact that Walmart is asking employees to give to their coworkers out of the kindness of their hear------WHY DOESN'T WALMART JUST GIVE THEM THE FOOD THEN.

/fark the right wingers, fark the left wingers
//this is exactly why we can't have nice things, Pepper
 
2013-11-18 03:53:28 PM
*from
 
2013-11-18 03:53:35 PM
if you don't like what you make at your job, get a better one.  if you don't feel like you can do that, try learning something useful.  if you don't feel like you can do that, accept that you're always going to be poor.

really that simple...
 
2013-11-18 03:54:32 PM
Damnit... missed 5. No.

Now it looks like I only read books at Starbucks if I got a shot at small boobed chicks.
 
2013-11-18 03:54:38 PM

stuff12345: if you don't like what you make at your job, get a better one.  if you don't feel like you can do that, try learning something useful.  if you don't feel like you can do that, accept that you're always going to be poor.

really that simple...


I think the bootstrap horse is dead.  You can stop hitting it now.
 
2013-11-18 03:54:45 PM

FinFangFark: I love how all the turds form the politics tab waddle their way into a thread and try to turn it in to a political discussion about the fact that Walmart is asking employees to give to their coworkers out of the kindness of their hear------WHY DOESN'T WALMART JUST GIVE THEM THE FOOD THEN.

/fark the right wingers, fark the left wingers
//this is exactly why we can't have nice things, Pepper


I thought we couldn't have nice things cause wages are sh*t these days.
 
2013-11-18 03:54:50 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: They probably figure that most of those donations will be purchased that their store. More sales!


yup.  especially since the employee discount has most likely just expanded to cover food purchases through the new year...  so they're basically taking it all out of the paychecks.
 
2013-11-18 03:54:59 PM
I am 50 years old. I have been working since I was 15, except for 2 years off to finish college.  I have worked at many types and sizes of businesses.  I have seen many of those businesses soliciting its employees for charitable donations for many causes over the years.  I have never seen or heard of a company asking its employees to give donations to its fellow employes, outside of a major disaster zone, e.g. give to help employees displaced by Hurricane Katrina.

This is a goddam disgrace and Wal-mart should be ashamed.  And McDonald's sending its employees to the state to get food stamps, when they farking sell "food," is also a disgrace.
 
2013-11-18 03:55:33 PM

stuff12345: if you don't like what you make at your job, get a better one.



stateofworkingamerica.org


There are about three people for every one job available. It is not 'really that simple' for many of them.
 
2013-11-18 03:55:47 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: cynicalminion: Grand_Moff_Joseph: cynicalminion: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Mr. Coffee Nerves: I can't wait to see one of the Walton kids be flown to this store in their Sikorsky S-76C, land in the parking lot, have a Maybach take them from the chopper to the front door, get out of the car with a single expired can of pumpkin mix...and throw it at the manager who came up with this idea before firing him.

Sam's Choice brand, of course.  and it was probably pulled from the Grocery department return cart, which has been sitting behind the customer service desk all day with now spoiled milk and meat products in it.

don't joke about that.  it's true... oh, and don't forget all the cleaning products that get tossed in the grocery returns because that's where they're kept.

I'm not joking, trust me.  I worked at Fail-mart when I was in college.  The return carts are the pit of hell.

my all-time favorite "nope, i'm getting close to an OT write-up, i'm going home now" story is the night that we discovered that one of the car batteries was leaking...

I vividly recall seeing a fellow cashier literally dragged off of her register and pulled - at a near run - to the back to clock out early because she was about to hit 40 hours for the week.

Oh, and there was a customer at the register at the time, in the middle of having their items rung up.  A CSM jumped into the register and tried to act as if nothing had happened at all.


I was a cashier at Sam's Club for about four years (*cough* 1996-1999 or thereabouts) and the same was true there.  Nobody worked over 40, except we lowest paid shlubs who got stuck with the closing shift on the weekends.  Fridays and Saturdays closing was 9:00pm but sometimes the store was such a mess we'd be there til after midnight straightening it up, pulling in carts, etc.  And sometimes you'd get stuck with the 7-3 shift the next morning which really blew but the up side was 7-9am on Saturday was really slow and 9-11 was kinda slow so it was an easy shift for the first half.  Then the afternoon was non-stop hell but at least you got to leave early.
 
2013-11-18 03:56:19 PM

orclover: whidbey: orclover: If you are expecting a non terrestrial super powered invisible being to right the scales of such injustices, then you are part of the problem.

This will only get worse.  A lot worse.

Actually a virus might solve the whole thing.

I would be completley in favor of a superbug wiping out or nearly wiping out our species.  But rich people would have a near 100% survival rate compared to the rest of our planet.

A revolution will never happen either.  Rich people will just pay the army to wipe out all the poor people.   There is no end and no hope, were farked.  Well cept the rich people, they are just dandy.  I cant believe I brought children into this farking shiatty world.  Our species needs a mercy killing.


Hacking is the future. And yea verily the walls will come tumblin' down.
 
2013-11-18 03:56:25 PM

UrukHaiGuyz: FinFangFark: I love how all the turds form the politics tab waddle their way into a thread and try to turn it in to a political discussion about the fact that Walmart is asking employees to give to their coworkers out of the kindness of their hear------WHY DOESN'T WALMART JUST GIVE THEM THE FOOD THEN.

/fark the right wingers, fark the left wingers
//this is exactly why we can't have nice things, Pepper

I thought we couldn't have nice things cause wages are sh*t these days.


nubian, I have a well paying job...my wages are just fine.

Walmart's wages are shiat and their prices are low, because they pretty much have gov't "subsidies" to offset all that.
 
2013-11-18 03:56:40 PM

letrole: Anyone who makes snide remarks about Wal-Mart also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years --> Nope
2. Drink microbrewery beer --> Nope
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac --> Nope
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records --> Nope
5. Read books at Starbucks --> Nope
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts --> Nope
7. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers --> Nope
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises --> Not pretentious, I really well up
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter --> Nope
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac

--> Nope

Sounds like you got me figured all out ;) Of course...when you're <letrole>, what else could you expect.

:: deposits her troll coins ::
 
2013-11-18 03:58:20 PM

stuff12345: if you don't like what you make at your job, get a better one.  if you don't feel like you can do that, try learning something useful.  if you don't feel like you can do that, accept that you're always going to be poor.

really that simple...


Keep going. You haven't tripped yourself up yet.
 
2013-11-18 03:59:49 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Dirty Doug: The fact is that the employees choose to work there, just like the consumers choose to shop there.  You can't act like they don't have any other options.  They just may not like those options.  At the end of the day, if they refused to work for those wages, the wages would go up, or would go to people who are willing to work for those wages.

Go work somewhere else.  What?  Nobody else is handing out money to people who haven't bothered to learn a trade, get a degree, etc?  Let's all cry like little biatches about it.  That will solve it.  Better yet, let's cry until some moron in the government passes a law to fix it.  Then start crying about the prices going up.  Start crying about the little businesses that go under.

Guess who loses?  Guess who pays?  All you sell-outs who still shop at WalMart (and the other stores that treat their employees like crap).

// Won't shop at WalMart

not sure if serious


ok, fellow minion (and yes, my four years at wally world led to my handle) quit it.  you've got other stuff.  *tags in* don't worry, i got dis.
img.fark.net
 
2013-11-18 04:00:13 PM

letrole: Anyone who makes snide remarks about Wal-Mart also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Drink microbrewery beer
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac


This is Fark, not your wish list.
 
2013-11-18 04:00:17 PM

theorellior: orclover: This will only get worse. A lot worse.

Blood in the streets, at some point.


No.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-11-18 04:00:34 PM

Voiceofreason01: But we can't raise the minimum wage "because socialism"


NO because republicans, nothing socialist about paying your employees a fair living wage.
 
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