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(Townhall)   The real tragedy of Virginia is that photo-ID laws didn't keep blacks from coming out to vote for McAuliffe   (townhall.com) divider line 92
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2013-11-18 11:59:01 AM  
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2013-11-18 12:14:05 PM  
So what you're saying is that photo-id laws were never the voting apocalypse that Democrats made them out to be and that they were over reacting to a reasonable idea?
 
2013-11-18 12:14:07 PM  
Yes, yes, doubled down on the "establishment republicans don't want a real conservative to win" trope.  They are eating the shiat out of themselves.
 
2013-11-18 12:15:04 PM  
Somehow lost in this sea of petulant rage:  Your candidate sucked.
 
2013-11-18 12:16:01 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: So what you're saying is that photo-id laws were never the voting apocalypse that Democrats made them out to be and that they were over reacting to a reasonable idea?


What we're saying is that people rebelled against your shiatty attempt to do so, that still has long-term chilling effects and no benefit, you racist assholes.
 
2013-11-18 12:16:23 PM  
Author doesn't mention voter ID.
 
2013-11-18 12:17:32 PM  
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Serves them right
 
2013-11-18 12:17:39 PM  
 
2013-11-18 12:18:37 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: So what you're saying is that photo-id laws were never the voting apocalypse that Democrats made them out to be and that they were over reacting to a reasonable idea?


Reasonable to who?  Republicans keeping their own brethren from committing voter fraud?
 
2013-11-18 12:18:41 PM  
Well plated subby.  I actually clicked a Townhall link willingly.
 
2013-11-18 12:21:10 PM  
The Republican candidate for Lt. Governor was a no-nonsense black pastor, graduate of Harvard Law School, E.W. Jackson.

so the blacks should have voted for the black candidate because he was black?
 
2013-11-18 12:21:52 PM  
I can't believe that I clicked a ClownBall link.

FTA:
Republicans have not failed in recent years as result of being too bold or too conservative.
They have failed due to lack of clarity, conviction and courage.


Conclusion and lesson learned: Not enough derp.

Dial the derp to plaid.

/And disenfranchise non-whites because they didn't vote for "our" black candidate.
//And single women. And half of the married women. Hell, just disenfranchise all women.
///And Democrats. Strip them all of citizenship. Just put them to work in the fields and kitchens.
 
2013-11-18 12:21:53 PM  
So....they worked as intended?
 
2013-11-18 12:22:37 PM  

Jackson Herring: The Republican candidate for Lt. Governor was a no-nonsense black pastor, graduate of Harvard Law School, E.W. Jackson.

so the blacks should have voted for the black candidate because he was black?


That's how Tealogic works.  They are utterly dumbfounded about that.  Therefore, voter fraud!
 
2013-11-18 12:22:41 PM  
0.00004% is a big problem that needs to be studied out.
 
2013-11-18 12:23:14 PM  

Jackson Herring: The Republican candidate for Lt. Governor was a no-nonsense black pastor, graduate of Harvard Law School, E.W. Jackson.

so the blacks should have voted for the black candidate because he was black?


Well, there is some precedent.
 
2013-11-18 12:24:53 PM  
Regarding the shutdown - supposedly of disproportionate impact because so many Northern Virginians work for the federal government - Cuccinelli was well behind in the polls for months before the shutdown even occurred. Again, largely because of unanswered attack ads.

Or, because he was a terrible candidate. You know, just because you stick an R (or D) behind someone's name doesn't necessarily mean that person will get X number of votes. Elections aren't chemical reactions or physics experiments. I know it seems that way when you look at election history/results from a 10,000 foot view, but people do occasionally still vote for whom they think is best. Or at least get out and support certain candidates more than others.
 
2013-11-18 12:25:02 PM  
Democrats funded a 3rd party candidate to siphon votes away from the republican candidate.

They tried this strategy previously in NJ when Corzine was up for reelection and Christie was his opponent but it failed.

I guess you could say more people voted against McCauliffe than voted for him.......


Oh yeah...also gun control.....People either voted for McCauliffe cause they were pro gun control.....or pro blow job since Coch was anti blow job....it depends if you ask Bloomberg.
 
2013-11-18 12:25:37 PM  

I_C_Weener: Jackson Herring: The Republican candidate for Lt. Governor was a no-nonsense black pastor, graduate of Harvard Law School, E.W. Jackson.

so the blacks should have voted for the black candidate because he was black?

Well, there is some precedent.


Yes, and if Alan Keyes had gone up against Bill Clinton in 1996, I am sure he would have won the black vote.  (rolls eyes)
 
2013-11-18 12:26:39 PM  

I_C_Weener: Jackson Herring: The Republican candidate for Lt. Governor was a no-nonsense black pastor, graduate of Harvard Law School, E.W. Jackson.

so the blacks should have voted for the black candidate because he was black?

Well, there is some precedent.


I guarantee you that if Barack Obama had run as a Republican candidate with a Republican agenda and platform and the Democrats had run an Irish albino from Idaho, but with a Democratic agenda and platform, Republican Obama would have gotten his clock cleaned.

tl;dr version: The GOP agenda is terrifying to anyone who's not white and rich.
 
2013-11-18 12:27:01 PM  
Virginia does not have a photo ID law.  Acceptable IDs include your utility bill, paycheck stub, or bank statement with your name and address on it.

The Cooch lost because the Cooch wishes for women to get back in the kitchen and shut up while the men are talking.  He also wishes to protect the children by reimplementing Victorian-era anti-sodomy laws; a ruse to ban the gay lifestyle. No one stabbed him in the back, he did a fine job campaigning, if this were the 1920's.

However, McAuliffe didn't win because of his amazing platform or stunning political insights. He most likely won because the Cooch was a worse choice.

The Daily Show had it right: do you want cancer or a heart attack?
 
2013-11-18 12:28:18 PM  

Infernalist: I_C_Weener: Jackson Herring: The Republican candidate for Lt. Governor was a no-nonsense black pastor, graduate of Harvard Law School, E.W. Jackson.

so the blacks should have voted for the black candidate because he was black?

Well, there is some precedent.

I guarantee you that if Barack Obama had run as a Republican candidate with a Republican agenda and platform and the Democrats had run an Irish albino from Idaho, but with a Democratic agenda and platform, Republican Obama would have gotten his clock cleaned.

tl;dr version: The GOP agenda is terrifying to anyone who's not white and rich.


Wasn't there a white guy who won an election recently solely by keeping his race secret until after he won the election?

Now the blacks are screaming that it's not fair they were tricked into voting for the guy based on the issues and not on his skin color.....
 
2013-11-18 12:29:00 PM  
FTFA: This would have been a classic opportunity for the Republican Party to aggressively visit black churches, talk about the conservative religious values that these black Americans care so dearly about, and explain the deep damage that welfare state policies and secular humanism embraced by Democrats has done in black communities.

The Republicans keep repeating this sentiment, apparently wondering why black folks don't seem to suddenly see the light and come around to a new point of thinking.

I think the problem is not that many of those people LIKE being on welfare, food stamps and medicare; but when presented with the option of having to go through years of potentially WORSE living conditions thanks to unlivable low working wages for many starting jobs, there is little incentive for people to go through the effort.

If you want to have people help themselves, find a way of making the process more enticing. Simply kicking them out the door by cutting them off from benefits will cause anger and resentment 9 times out of 10.
 
2013-11-18 12:29:10 PM  

I_C_Weener: Jackson Herring: The Republican candidate for Lt. Governor was a no-nonsense black pastor, graduate of Harvard Law School, E.W. Jackson.

so the blacks should have voted for the black candidate because he was black?

Well, there is some precedent.


Before her campaign shot itself in the foot, Hillary was leading amongst black voters.
 
2013-11-18 12:30:03 PM  

Giltric: Infernalist: I_C_Weener: Jackson Herring: The Republican candidate for Lt. Governor was a no-nonsense black pastor, graduate of Harvard Law School, E.W. Jackson.

so the blacks should have voted for the black candidate because he was black?

Well, there is some precedent.

I guarantee you that if Barack Obama had run as a Republican candidate with a Republican agenda and platform and the Democrats had run an Irish albino from Idaho, but with a Democratic agenda and platform, Republican Obama would have gotten his clock cleaned.

tl;dr version: The GOP agenda is terrifying to anyone who's not white and rich.

Wasn't there a white guy who won an election recently solely by keeping his race secret until after he won the election?

Now the blacks are screaming that it's not fair they were tricked into voting for the guy based on the issues and not on his skin color.....


That was a small election for a college board position.  And yes.  he kept his picture out of it.  Used pictures of "generic black" people in his ad materials, and had an endorsement from a guy who had the same name as a local politician.  Basically he ran on the same platform as Eddie Murphy in that going to Washington movie.
 
2013-11-18 12:30:12 PM  

Jackson Herring: The Republican candidate for Lt. Governor was a no-nonsense black pastor, graduate of Harvard Law School, E.W. Jackson.

so the blacks should have voted for the black candidate because he was black?


And without missing a beat they will turn around and accuse blacks of voting for Obama solely because he is black.

Republicans just don't get it. Your policies suck, and black voters aren't stupid enough to fall for parlor tricks.
 
2013-11-18 12:30:35 PM  
Author of the article.....

media.townhall.com

Star Parker is founder and president of CURE, the Center for Urban Renewal and Education, a 501c3 think tank which explores and promotes market based public policy to fight poverty, as well as author of the newly revised Uncle Sam's Plantation: How Big Government Enslaves America's Poor and What We Can do About It.
Before involvement in social activism, Star Parker had seven years of first-hand experience in the grip of welfare dependency. Now, as a social policy consultant, Star is bringing new energy to policy discussions on traditional mores, limited government and private ownership. She provides regular testimony before the US Congress, and is a sought after expert for radio, television, and print, nationwide.
Star has a BS degree in Marketing and Business from Woodbury University and has received numerous awards and commendations for her work. She has lectured on poverty issues at more than 180 colleges and universities and has served on advisory boards for several organizations ranging from Carenet to the Cato Institute.


What is she doing writing for Townhall?
 
2013-11-18 12:31:09 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Author doesn't mention voter ID.



Moreover, the author's mention of race wasn't even controversial.


When Barack Obama won the presidency in 2012 while winning just 38 percent of the white vote, Republicans supposedly learned something.
Those lessons appear to have been lost in Virginia.
Virginia has a large black population, 50 percent higher than the national average. Terry McAuliffe got 90% of the black vote, as did Creigh Deeds, the Democratic candidate for governor in Virginia in 2009.



He said that Republicans haven't gotten the message because the black folks are still voting for Democrats by a large margin. He didn't say the blacks were stupid or that white people needed to unite. you're reaching, Trollmitter.
 
2013-11-18 12:31:35 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: So what you're saying is that photo-id laws were never the voting apocalypse that Democrats made them out to be and that they were over reacting to a reasonable idea?


And how much fraud did it stop?

I guess more government regulation isn't the answer after all.
 
2013-11-18 12:31:47 PM  
How is it that you can manage to convince yourself to ever leave the house when you believe the smell of your own farts is so sweet?
 
2013-11-18 12:32:36 PM  

Ennuipoet: Up next:  A series of Polling Monitors to keep Fraud in check[img.fark.net image 298x362]


a57.foxnews.com
 
2013-11-18 12:33:24 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Dusk-You-n-Me: Author doesn't mention voter ID.


Moreover, the author's mention of race wasn't even controversial.


When Barack Obama won the presidency in 2012 while winning just 38 percent of the white vote, Republicans supposedly learned something.
Those lessons appear to have been lost in Virginia.
Virginia has a large black population, 50 percent higher than the national average. Terry McAuliffe got 90% of the black vote, as did Creigh Deeds, the Democratic candidate for governor in Virginia in 2009.


He said that Republicans haven't gotten the message because the black folks are still voting for Democrats by a large margin. He didn't say the blacks were stupid or that white people needed to unite. you're reaching, Trollmitter.


A "reach" of less than a centimeter is hardly a reach.
 
2013-11-18 12:33:49 PM  

Giltric: Democrats funded a 3rd party candidate to siphon votes away from the republican candidate.


You are correct; the Democratic fundraiser who funded the Libertarian party candidate could not possibly have done so because he believed the candidate (whose positions on social issues was "liberal") to be preferable to the widely-reviled McCauliffe. Additionally, a Democrat doing this is entirely dishonest, corrupt and not at all like when Republicans encourage and support third-party candidates likely to split votes from the Democratic party candidate.
 
2013-11-18 12:34:05 PM  

I_C_Weener: Jackson Herring: The Republican candidate for Lt. Governor was a no-nonsense black pastor, graduate of Harvard Law School, E.W. Jackson.

so the blacks should have voted for the black candidate because he was black?

Well, there is some precedent.


No there isn't. Black votes are reliably democratic, not racial. The democrat wins the black vote by a landslide regardless of race.

For some odd reason, "more tax cuts for rich people" as your sole party platform for everything doesn't resonate with your average black voter.
 
2013-11-18 12:34:11 PM  
 

sugardave: That's how Tealogic works.  They are utterly dumbfounded about that.  Therefore, voter fraud!


I thought maybe there was some kind of Tealogic at work where they thought black people couldn't be photographed or something, and therefore they couldn't get photo IDs.
 
2013-11-18 12:34:34 PM  

OHDUDENESS: Ennuipoet: Up next:  A series of Polling Monitors to keep Fraud in check[img.fark.net image 298x362]

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SCARY!  OHMYGOSH SO SCARY!  Look at that white lady...she must be calling the cops to report the vicious gang rape she just experienced at the polling place.  SCARY!
 
2013-11-18 12:34:36 PM  

sugardave: DROxINxTHExWIND: Dusk-You-n-Me: Author doesn't mention voter ID.


Moreover, the author's mention of race wasn't even controversial.


When Barack Obama won the presidency in 2012 while winning just 38 percent of the white vote, Republicans supposedly learned something.
Those lessons appear to have been lost in Virginia.
Virginia has a large black population, 50 percent higher than the national average. Terry McAuliffe got 90% of the black vote, as did Creigh Deeds, the Democratic candidate for governor in Virginia in 2009.


He said that Republicans haven't gotten the message because the black folks are still voting for Democrats by a large margin. He didn't say the blacks were stupid or that white people needed to unite. you're reaching, Trollmitter.

A "reach" of less than a centimeter is hardly a reach.


I get that you're trying to be clever but please clarify. What did the author say that was wrong?
 
2013-11-18 12:35:06 PM  

OHDUDENESS: Ennuipoet: Up next:  A series of Polling Monitors to keep Fraud in check[img.fark.net image 298x362]

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ERMAHERD! He's got a stick!!!! Our voting rights are useless in the face of his primitive weapon!
 
2013-11-18 12:35:39 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: sugardave: That's how Tealogic works.  They are utterly dumbfounded about that.  Therefore, voter fraud!

I thought maybe there was some kind of Tealogic at work where they thought black people couldn't be photographed or something, and therefore they couldn't get photo IDs.


Mind blown.  Teabaggers think black people are vampires.
 
2013-11-18 12:35:59 PM  
<i>The Republican candidate for Lt. Governor was a no-nonsense black pastor, graduate of Harvard Law School, E.W. Jackson. </i>

No-nonsense?
I'm not sure how even Townhall can put that out there with a straight face.

He was nothing BUT nonsense!
 
2013-11-18 12:36:08 PM  

gilgigamesh: I_C_Weener: Jackson Herring: The Republican candidate for Lt. Governor was a no-nonsense black pastor, graduate of Harvard Law School, E.W. Jackson.

so the blacks should have voted for the black candidate because he was black?

Well, there is some precedent.

No there isn't. Black votes are reliably democratic, not racial. The democrat wins the black vote by a landslide regardless of race.

For some odd reason, "more tax cuts for rich people" as your sole party platform for everything doesn't resonate with your average black voter.


Your statement only proves that blacks are lazy; if they were actually interested in improving themselves, they would recognize that tax cuts for rich people results in an improved job market, which would lead to employment opportunities that would allow them to get off of welfare.
 
2013-11-18 12:36:30 PM  

I_C_Weener: Jackson Herring: The Republican candidate for Lt. Governor was a no-nonsense black pastor, graduate of Harvard Law School, E.W. Jackson.

so the blacks should have voted for the black candidate because he was black?

Well, there is some precedent.


Alan Keyes defeating Obama for the senate seat in 2006?
 
2013-11-18 12:37:56 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: sugardave: DROxINxTHExWIND: Dusk-You-n-Me: Author doesn't mention voter ID.


Moreover, the author's mention of race wasn't even controversial.


When Barack Obama won the presidency in 2012 while winning just 38 percent of the white vote, Republicans supposedly learned something.
Those lessons appear to have been lost in Virginia.
Virginia has a large black population, 50 percent higher than the national average. Terry McAuliffe got 90% of the black vote, as did Creigh Deeds, the Democratic candidate for governor in Virginia in 2009.


He said that Republicans haven't gotten the message because the black folks are still voting for Democrats by a large margin. He didn't say the blacks were stupid or that white people needed to unite. you're reaching, Trollmitter.

A "reach" of less than a centimeter is hardly a reach.

I get that you're trying to be clever but please clarify. What did the author say that was wrong?


Unknown, I don't read Teabagger propaganda sites as a matter of maintaining sanity.  I just know that it would take VERY little effort to uncover someone at VAGOP (or is it GOPVA?) that would claim voter fraud was the reason they lost.  It doesn't matter if it's in the article or not, I have history on my side.
 
2013-11-18 12:40:19 PM  

Jackson Herring: The Republican candidate for Lt. Governor was a no-nonsense black pastor, graduate of Harvard Law School, E.W. Jackson.

so the blacks should have voted for the black candidate because he was black?



"We oughta get our own darkie... even blacker than theirs!"


img.fark.net
 
2013-11-18 12:40:36 PM  

Dimensio: Your statement only proves that blacks are lazy; if they were actually interested in improving themselves, they would recognize that tax cuts for rich people results in an improved job market, which would lead to employment opportunities that would allow them to get off of welfare.


Heh, good one.
 
2013-11-18 12:40:48 PM  
"Look, we feel that as long as the law works to question the votes of at least three out of every five instances of voter ID irregularity, than it is doing what we need it to do. No more questions."
 
2013-11-18 12:41:17 PM  
Blacks didn't vote for Cuccinelli because he would put an end to the free stuff they've been getting all these years that the Democrats have gotten them addicted to so they could secure them as a voting block. The fact that Cuccinelli didn't lose by a wider margin is clearly a victory for the Tea Party and should be a watershed moment in their triumphant return to political relevance.

Or, so that's what my right wing friends are telling me...
 
2013-11-18 12:43:02 PM  

sugardave: DROxINxTHExWIND: sugardave: DROxINxTHExWIND: Dusk-You-n-Me: Author doesn't mention voter ID.


Moreover, the author's mention of race wasn't even controversial.


When Barack Obama won the presidency in 2012 while winning just 38 percent of the white vote, Republicans supposedly learned something.
Those lessons appear to have been lost in Virginia.
Virginia has a large black population, 50 percent higher than the national average. Terry McAuliffe got 90% of the black vote, as did Creigh Deeds, the Democratic candidate for governor in Virginia in 2009.


He said that Republicans haven't gotten the message because the black folks are still voting for Democrats by a large margin. He didn't say the blacks were stupid or that white people needed to unite. you're reaching, Trollmitter.

A "reach" of less than a centimeter is hardly a reach.

I get that you're trying to be clever but please clarify. What did the author say that was wrong?

Unknown, I don't read Teabagger propaganda sites as a matter of maintaining sanity.  I just know that it would take VERY little effort to uncover someone at VAGOP (or is it GOPVA?) that would claim voter fraud was the reason they lost.  It doesn't matter if it's in the article or not, I have history on my side.


Sooooo, you're just pulling stuff from your ass? That's not really an effective way to argue any point. Why would you make such a difinitive statement about something that you didn;t bother to read? Closing your ears and singing "la-la-la" isn't going to make people with different opinions go away. Its bad when they do it. Be better than that.
 
2013-11-18 12:43:22 PM  

Ennuipoet: Up next: A series of Polling Monitors to keep Fraud in check


Check the picture of the author for TFA; you probably need to find a picture of Clayton Bigby.

sprgrss: Yes, yes, doubled down on the "establishment republicans don't want a real conservative to win" trope.


And on "we just weren't persistent enough explaining to the Blacks why Democrat policies are terrible" with a side of "we lost the slut vote".

They neglect to consider that sex is the only kind of congress with high approval, that blacks may be declining to accept the message because it's wrong, and that the money men may find a slime like McAuliffe easier to work with than Cuccinelli, if (hypothetically) the former is cheaper to buy, more likely to stay bought, and less likely to rile the peasants over unimportant trivia.
 
2013-11-18 12:43:25 PM  

Biff_Steel: Dimensio: Your statement only proves that blacks are lazy; if they were actually interested in improving themselves, they would recognize that tax cuts for rich people results in an improved job market, which would lead to employment opportunities that would allow them to get off of welfare.

Heh, good one.


It is logically sound: quod erat demonpotato.
 
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