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(Bloomberg)   TEPCO remove fuel rods that have been planted firmly in reactor's ass   (bloomberg.com) divider line 22
    More: Interesting, Fukushima, nuclear fuels, nuclear chain reaction, Tokyo Electric Power Co., structural failure  
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2013-11-18 09:00:01 AM
UFRIA
 
2013-11-18 09:05:09 AM
Why hasn't the US gotten involved in helping contain this mess?
 
2013-11-18 09:05:33 AM
It's the end of days. I light my home with irradiated canned tuna.

intellihub.com
 
2013-11-18 09:06:18 AM
This is one of the most dangerous things that has ever faced humanity. If this fails, there will be huge global consequences. And it has a high chance of failing. :(
 
2013-11-18 09:11:28 AM
And we all lived happily ever after...
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-11-18 09:16:40 AM

Endive Wombat: Why hasn't the US gotten involved in helping contain this mess?


Why should it?  What can we do that Japan can't?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-11-18 09:17:51 AM

JonnyG: This is one of the most dangerous things that has ever faced humanity. If this fails, there will be huge global consequences. And it has a high chance of failing. :(


Not really.  It's not like Japan is going to stop the cleanup or that it would make the whole world radioactive if it did.
 
2013-11-18 09:21:16 AM
Tepco contractor: "We're here today to remove the enriched uranium from the damaged plant site."

Plant Manager: "Great. You'll need truck driver, a forklift, a backhoe and a fisherman. Oh, yea, and a 50 foot set of lead chopsticks. Have at it."
 
2013-11-18 09:30:41 AM

JonnyG: This is one of the most dangerous things that has ever faced humanity. If this fails, there will be huge global consequences. And it has a high chance of failing. :(


As long as the water's sufficiently borated, they could do pretty much whatever they want with the fuel in the pool, nothing will happen.

You need a pretty particular geometry to get a good reaction going.  Spent pools don't have it.

Realize also, that, with EVERY fuel assembly removed from the pool, the 'danger' (there really isn't any) of a criticality, goes down.

They're removing the unused fuel because it's somewhat easier to handle than the spent stuff (not self-heating or very radioactive)

This is actually pretty simple Vs Three Mile island, where they had to jackhammer out the melted fuel.

/Fun part is gonna be defueling units 1 through 3
//Removing that fuel is the easy part, it's filling the drywells to the top without leaking that's gonna be hard...
 
2013-11-18 09:33:20 AM

vpb: Endive Wombat: Why hasn't the US gotten involved in helping contain this mess?

Why should it?  What can we do that Japan can't?


besides, we have a terrible history with Japan when it came to nuclear fallout
 
2013-11-18 09:40:51 AM
What I find even more interesting is that they finally measured (and published) the radiation levels near the leak at the bottom of one of the reactors: 1 to 1.8 severts an hour. Any farkers care to convert that to bananas?
 
2013-11-18 10:08:42 AM

MrSteve007: What I find even more interesting is that they finally measured (and published) the radiation levels near the leak at the bottom of one of the reactors: 1 to 1.8 severts an hour. Any farkers care to convert that to bananas?


Not going to try the conversion, but applying PILES (Pungent's Iron Law of Executive Self-Preservation), I can tell you whether or not it's safe.

Did any high-ranking TEPCO executives make this announcement at the actual site?

No?

Then it's still dangerous.
 
2013-11-18 10:22:18 AM
I love how TFA talks about the spent fuel rods as potentially creating the same kind of nuclear reaction that the active reactors nearly caused. What a load of BS; the spent fuel rods have to stay cooled because they can heat up, but they aren't going to create a self-sustaining nuclear fission reaction. If they are left uncooled long enough (especially the ones just removed from a reactor), they can heat to the point where they catch fire, and no one wants a fire throwing nuclear material like plutonium and strontium up into the air, but a fission reaction? Go away Bloomberg and let someone else do the reporting.
 
2013-11-18 10:29:56 AM

PunGent: MrSteve007: What I find even more interesting is that they finally measured (and published) the radiation levels near the leak at the bottom of one of the reactors: 1 to 1.8 severts an hour. Any farkers care to convert that to bananas?

Not going to try the conversion, but applying PILES (Pungent's Iron Law of Executive Self-Preservation), I can tell you whether or not it's safe.

Did any high-ranking TEPCO executives make this announcement at the actual site?

No?

Then it's still dangerous.


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2013-11-18 10:32:18 AM

PsychoPhil: Removing that fuel is the easy part, it's filling the drywells to the top without leaking that's gonna be hard..


They just need to shoot in a bunch of that tire sealing goop.
 
2013-11-18 10:34:51 AM

MrSteve007: What I find even more interesting is that they finally measured (and published) the radiation levels near the leak at the bottom of one of the reactors: 1 to 1.8 severts an hour. Any farkers care to convert that to bananas?


More than can comfortably fit in your ass. Probably.
 
2013-11-18 10:54:40 AM
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vpb: Endive Wombat: Why hasn't the US gotten involved in helping contain this mess?

Why should it?  What can we do that Japan can't?


This completely.  We don't need to step on everybody's toes.  Sometimes the best thing we can do is step the Fark out of their way, and pass them a coffee, if and when they ask for it.
 
2013-11-18 11:28:12 AM

PsychoPhil: JonnyG: This is one of the most dangerous things that has ever faced humanity. If this fails, there will be huge global consequences. And it has a high chance of failing. :(

As long as the water's sufficiently borated, they could do pretty much whatever they want with the fuel in the pool, nothing will happen.

You need a pretty particular geometry to get a good reaction going.  Spent pools don't have it.

Realize also, that, with EVERY fuel assembly removed from the pool, the 'danger' (there really isn't any) of a criticality, goes down.

They're removing the unused fuel because it's somewhat easier to handle than the spent stuff (not self-heating or very radioactive)

This is actually pretty simple Vs Three Mile island, where they had to jackhammer out the melted fuel.

/Fun part is gonna be defueling units 1 through 3
//Removing that fuel is the easy part, it's filling the drywells to the top without leaking that's gonna be hard...


How DARE you know what you're talking about when there's ill-informed knee-jerk nuclearphobia going about!
 
2013-11-18 12:42:18 PM

MadCat221: PsychoPhil: JonnyG: This is one of the most dangerous things that has ever faced humanity. If this fails, there will be huge global consequences. And it has a high chance of failing. :(

As long as the water's sufficiently borated, they could do pretty much whatever they want with the fuel in the pool, nothing will happen.

You need a pretty particular geometry to get a good reaction going.  Spent pools don't have it.

Realize also, that, with EVERY fuel assembly removed from the pool, the 'danger' (there really isn't any) of a criticality, goes down.

They're removing the unused fuel because it's somewhat easier to handle than the spent stuff (not self-heating or very radioactive)

This is actually pretty simple Vs Three Mile island, where they had to jackhammer out the melted fuel.

/Fun part is gonna be defueling units 1 through 3
//Removing that fuel is the easy part, it's filling the drywells to the top without leaking that's gonna be hard...

How DARE you know what you're talking about when there's ill-informed knee-jerk nuclearphobia going about!


I don't know if it's ill-informed knee-jerk nuclearphobia as much as it is a matter of trust. A lot of people are tired of the lies told in the past, and not just the lies by any nuclear industry. "Use this/eat this/buy this/take this. It's safe (Honest!)"
 
2013-11-18 01:50:24 PM
Follow up:

Tepco Successfully Removes First Nuclear Fuel Rods at Fukushima

successfully removed the first nuclear fuel rods today from a cooling pool at the wrecked Fukushima nuclear plant, an early milestone in decommissioning the facility

I told you it has a happy ending.
 
2013-11-18 04:23:12 PM
Good luck, we're counting on you.
 
2013-11-18 10:05:45 PM
considering who's in charge:

An uncontrolled nuclear reaction due to structural failures or mishandled fuel is highly unlikely because of safeguards and workers' experience with the procedure, Akira Ono, the Dai-Ichi plant's chief supervisor, said at a Nov. 7 news conference at the power station.

I'm sure we don't have anything to worry about...
 
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