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(Hamilton Journal-News)   In Ohio, auto workers are protected by union contracts from being disciplined if they show up for work drunk, and are allowed to suck on a breath mint before a breathalyzer test. Just kidding - it's not auto workers, it's actually cops   (journal-news.com) divider line 77
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2013-11-17 07:47:38 PM
Who wants popcorn?
 
2013-11-17 07:47:42 PM
As long as they aren't so impaired as to do their jobs at less than optimal performance, I'm okay with this.

God knows how many times I've done my job drunk.
 
2013-11-17 07:49:35 PM
allowed to suck on a breath mint before a breathalyzer test

so they allow them to indulge in wives tales?
 
2013-11-17 07:49:43 PM
Meanwhile, in Texas, driving while sucking on a breath mint is reasonable suspicion for a DWI investigation when there were no signs of bad driving.
 
2013-11-17 07:50:31 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: less than optimal performance


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2013-11-17 07:54:06 PM
Didn't the Mythbusters do that one?
 
2013-11-17 07:57:14 PM
snopes says mints don't work
 
2013-11-17 07:58:14 PM
Fox News to pick upon the first part of the Fark headline in 3..2..1...
 
2013-11-17 07:58:25 PM

MassAsster: allowed to suck on a breath mint before a breathalyzer test

so they allow them to indulge in wives tales?


Silly people. They don't know sucking on a dick will help them pass the test. For a minimum of 2 minutes.
 
2013-11-17 07:58:37 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: As long as they aren't so impaired as to do their jobs at less than optimal performance, I'm okay with this.

God knows how many times I've done my job drunk.


Me too, but then again I don't drive, handle firearms, or conduct high speed pursuits at work.
 
2013-11-17 07:59:19 PM

TommyymmoT: AverageAmericanGuy: As long as they aren't so impaired as to do their jobs at less than optimal performance, I'm okay with this.

God knows how many times I've done my job drunk.

Me too, but then again I don't drive, handle firearms, or conduct high speed pursuits at work.


Not for lack of trying, I hope.
 
2013-11-17 08:01:38 PM
The alcohol makes them impervious to criticism and quicker to anger. In other words: better at being police officers.
 
2013-11-17 08:01:44 PM
I'm confused.  Fox News told me the unions were socialists, but this union is protecting fascists.  Where should my outrage be directed?
 
2013-11-17 08:03:17 PM

FunkOut: MassAsster: allowed to suck on a breath mint before a breathalyzer test

so they allow them to indulge in wives tales?

Silly people. They don't know sucking on a dick will help them pass the test. For a minimum of 2 minutes.


Flesh breathalyzer.
 
2013-11-17 08:04:03 PM
FTFA:
He said the contract also gives needed leeway for officers who might take medications or prescriptions prior to their shifts.
"Certain medications, like cough syrup, have a degree of alcohol. If a deputy sheriff is suspected of having an alcoholic beverage, (medications) could register to around .05," Dallman said.

Cops shouldn't be penalized for trying to stay healthy.

www.oocities.org

"Do you pop out at parties? Are you unpoopular? Try Vitameatavegemin!"
 
2013-11-17 08:05:18 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: As long as they aren't so impaired as to do their jobs at less than optimal performance, I'm okay with this.

God knows how many times I've done my job drunk.


Do you carry a gun and drive a car at work?
 
2013-11-17 08:05:53 PM

meanmutton: AverageAmericanGuy: As long as they aren't so impaired as to do their jobs at less than optimal performance, I'm okay with this.

God knows how many times I've done my job drunk.

Do you carry a gun and drive a car at work?


There might be days I don't carry a gun.
 
2013-11-17 08:07:08 PM
You know what does work? Breathing through a mouthful of powdered zeolite crystals...good luck on that one
 
2013-11-17 08:08:16 PM

Danger Avoid Death: FTFA:
He said the contract also gives needed leeway for officers who might take medications or prescriptions prior to their shifts.
"Certain medications, like cough syrup, have a degree of alcohol. If a deputy sheriff is suspected of having an alcoholic beverage, (medications) could register to around .05," Dallman said.

Cops shouldn't be penalized for trying to stay healthy.

"Do you pop out at parties? Are you unpoopular? Try Vitameatavegemin!"


www.morethings.com
 
2013-11-17 08:09:02 PM

Danger Avoid Death: FTFA:
He said the contract also gives needed leeway for officers who might take medications or prescriptions prior to their shifts.
"Certain medications, like cough syrup, have a degree of alcohol. If a deputy sheriff is suspected of having an alcoholic beverage, (medications) could register to around .05," Dallman said.

Cops shouldn't be penalized for trying to stay healthy.


Exactly. If they test positive for opiates, it's probably because of the low-fat poppyseed muffins and bagels they're eating instead of donuts.
 
2013-11-17 08:09:25 PM

Danger Avoid Death: "Certain medications, like cough syrup, have a degree of alcohol. If a deputy sheriff is suspected of having an alcoholic beverage, (medications) could register to around .05," Dallman said.


What the hell kind of cough syrup are they buying that has more than 1% alcohol in it and beyond that you'd have to chug the bottle to get that alcohol but you'd be farked up on dxm.
 
2013-11-17 08:10:41 PM

I'm an excellent driver: I'm confused.  Fox News told me the unions were socialists, but this union is protecting fascists.  Where should my outrage be directed?


Ok that's funny. +1
 
2013-11-17 08:14:39 PM

berylman: You know what does work? Breathing through a mouthful of powdered zeolite crystals...good luck on that one


Oxidative catalyst fillings.

"Have you been chugging vinegar?"
 
2013-11-17 08:15:23 PM

I'm an excellent driver: I'm confused.  Fox News told me the unions were socialists, but this union is protecting fascists.  Where should my outrage be directed?


Why not both?
 
2013-11-17 08:15:54 PM

brimed03: I'm an excellent driver: I'm confused.  Fox News told me the unions were socialists, but this union is protecting fascists.  Where should my outrage be directed?

Ok that's funny. +1


Yes, and the answer is Fox News.
 
2013-11-17 08:20:37 PM
Unless there is something prohibiting it in their contract, they are under the same legalities as everyone else. Surprise! The fact there is an effort to have it controlled is a good sign, might even be a little heavy handed.

/yawn
 
rpm
2013-11-17 08:20:50 PM

A Terrible Human: Danger Avoid Death: "Certain medications, like cough syrup, have a degree of alcohol. If a deputy sheriff is suspected of having an alcoholic beverage, (medications) could register to around .05," Dallman said.

What the hell kind of cough syrup are they buying that has more than 1% alcohol in it and beyond that you'd have to chug the bottle to get that alcohol but you'd be farked up on dxm.


Nyquil is around 25% alcohol. So, yeah, it's pretty much a shot.
 
2013-11-17 08:20:58 PM

reported: Danger Avoid Death: FTFA:
He said the contract also gives needed leeway for officers who might take medications or prescriptions prior to their shifts.
"Certain medications, like cough syrup, have a degree of alcohol. If a deputy sheriff is suspected of having an alcoholic beverage, (medications) could register to around .05," Dallman said.

Cops shouldn't be penalized for trying to stay healthy.

Exactly. If they test positive for opiates, it's probably because of the low-fat poppyseed muffins and bagels they're eating instead of donuts.


It's right up there with the old classic, "I swear, it just wafted over while we were incinerating that last bust.."
 
2013-11-17 08:21:39 PM
...When I arrived at my first Air Force base in late '78 - and remember, I built bombs for a living - you were allowed to have '1 beer' at lunch, and by one beer we meant anything we could chug down in the 45 minutes we actually had for chow by the time we got to the club or a couple of the places off base.  They didn't end that for a year or two more.
 
2013-11-17 08:25:02 PM
cop thread, union thread, cop thread, union thread, cop thread, union thread......
 
2013-11-17 08:28:01 PM

Danger Avoid Death: FTFA:
He said the contract also gives needed leeway for officers who might take medications or prescriptions prior to their shifts.
"Certain medications, like cough syrup, have a degree of alcohol. If a deputy sheriff is suspected of having an alcoholic beverage, (medications) could register to around .05," Dallman said.

Cops shouldn't be penalized for trying to stay healthy.



"Do you pop out at parties? Are you unpoopular? Try Vitameatavegemin!"


So screw those under 21. They don't have a right to stay healthy!
 
2013-11-17 08:28:52 PM
The cops are right to resist a .00 BAC.  The problem is the body produces a bit of alcohol on it's own.  .02 is about as low as it's reasonable to set it given biology and the limits of the breathalyzer.
 
2013-11-17 08:29:57 PM

FunkOut: MassAsster: allowed to suck on a breath mint before a breathalyzer test

so they allow them to indulge in wives tales?

Silly people. They don't know sucking on a dick will help them pass the test. For a minimum of 2 minutes.


FunkOut wears a strap-on at all times for exactly this reason.
 
2013-11-17 08:34:31 PM
The one thing I don't get with these kind sof stories is apparently the city was okay with this rule when they originlally negotiated the contract with the Union. So unless it was hidden on page 27 of a 48 page contract in microscopic font, I don't have a lot of sympathy.
 
2013-11-17 08:35:16 PM

I'm an excellent driver: I'm confused.  Fox News told me the unions were socialists, but this union is protecting fascists.  Where should my outrage be directed?


You always have to be outraged at Fox News. Didn't you read the damned Fark handbook?
 
2013-11-17 08:35:59 PM

Old enough to know better: The one thing I don't get with these kind sof stories is apparently the city was okay with this rule when they originlally negotiated the contract with the Union. So unless it was hidden on page 27 of a 48 page contract in microscopic font, I don't have a lot of sympathy.


TFA says the .04 limit is the same across other employee's contracts, so not just the police can do it.
 
2013-11-17 08:45:36 PM

rpm: Nyquil is around 25% alcohol. So, yeah, it's pretty much a shot.


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Approves

/you giant f'ing Q
 
2013-11-17 08:49:40 PM
Not just there, Indianapolis, parts of Alaska, Louisville, Chicago, San Diego, not LA surprisingly...........
 
nm
2013-11-17 08:57:04 PM
Few issues:
.04 is probably set because there's been no showing of any impairment below .05 in scientific studies.  That said, it is probably a best practice for .01 limits (probably .02 to account for medication and the margin of error on these devices) on anyone carrying a gun to avoid that argument in a lawsuit or criminal trial.
Sucking on a mint will increase mouth alcohol leading to artificially high readings.  It certainly won't lower them.

No love for the cops, but this is a bit overblown.
 
2013-11-17 09:00:18 PM
It would be cool if our SWAT teams were full of pissheads. All that down time in the rec room, half suited-up.. waiting for a call out.

X-box and table tennis and getting slaughtered on Heinekens. Let's roll.

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2013-11-17 09:00:42 PM

rpm: A Terrible Human: Danger Avoid Death: "Certain medications, like cough syrup, have a degree of alcohol. If a deputy sheriff is suspected of having an alcoholic beverage, (medications) could register to around .05," Dallman said.

What the hell kind of cough syrup are they buying that has more than 1% alcohol in it and beyond that you'd have to chug the bottle to get that alcohol but you'd be farked up on dxm.

Nyquil is around 25% alcohol. So, yeah, it's pretty much a shot.


But why the fark would you do nyquil when you're supposed to be awake? Doxylamine succinate is pretty goddamn good at knocking people the right the fark out,it's the reason you don't use nyquil as a source of dxm.
 
2013-11-17 09:00:55 PM
oldskool
 
2013-11-17 09:19:02 PM
I wonder why all the union haters never get around to hating on cops.

Oh wait I don't. Anti-unionists are typically authoritarians.
 
2013-11-17 09:21:34 PM

nm: Few issues:
.04 is probably set because there's been no showing of any impairment below .05 in scientific studies.  That said, it is probably a best practice for .01 limits (probably .02 to account for medication and the margin of error on these devices) on anyone carrying a gun to avoid that argument in a lawsuit or criminal trial.
Sucking on a mint will increase mouth alcohol leading to artificially high readings.  It certainly won't lower them.

No love for the cops, but this is a bit overblown.


The mint thing is abut masking the smell to a human. It's not about the breathalyzer.\

/i feel safer
 
2013-11-17 09:22:35 PM
I, for one, am OUTRAGED at this revelation. Those lazy, unionized autowo- oh wait. You got me there, subby.
 
2013-11-17 09:27:44 PM

As someone who legitimately has ADHD, too many are diagnosed that don't have it!

 
2013-11-17 09:27:56 PM

AtlanticCoast63: ...When I arrived at my first Air Force base in late '78 - and remember, I built bombs for a living - you were allowed to have '1 beer' at lunch, and by one beer we meant anything we could chug down in the 45 minutes we actually had for chow by the time we got to the club or a couple of the places off base.  They didn't end that for a year or two more.


Supposedly nuclear techs in France can have beer if they're doing refueling. Considering American techs typically have to nearly nail Safety's nuts to an i-beam to get bottled water, it might just be a wive's tale to taunt us with.

/it's like, it wouldn't surprise me but it still blows my mind as a concept
//staying relaxed and in the zone is how to do refueling right, apparentely
 
2013-11-17 09:46:41 PM
As long as their guns aren't drunk.
 
2013-11-17 09:51:40 PM
A Terrible Human:it's the reason you don't use nyquil as a source of dxm.

RFG is that you?
 
2013-11-17 10:02:39 PM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: I wonder why all the union haters never get around to hating on cops.

Oh wait I don't. Anti-unionists are typically authoritarians.


I am against all government employees having unions
 
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