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2013-11-17 05:26:02 PM

mmagdalene: Gergesa: spman: The problem is that 30% of the men are getting 90% of the women, but why that is I do not know.

I recall an economist saying there was a particular term for that phenomenon.  I think the economist also said something like boring stable men are overlooked until later in life(mid 30s).  I can't recall all the comparisons made to an actual commerce market but those are the two things I remember.

I can't think of many men under forty who don't seem to be struggling with perpetual adolescence. And by "struggling", I mean opting out of becoming multi-dimensional people with emotional maturity and interests which extend beyond video games and beer and into the larger world outside their living rooms.


Where they get hitched-up, dragged back into said living room, and accused of the same every time they try to escape back into the outside world. Can't blame them for just cutting to the endgame.
 
2013-11-17 05:26:45 PM

Hobo Jr.: Quantum Apostrophe: Hobo Jr.: I think alot of younger people are realizing "Don't stick your dick in crazy" is excellent advice.  And there is nothing crazier than a female between the ages of 14-19.

You want some more excellent advice? "A lot" is twowords.
/see how that looks?

Oh darn.  Are you gonna take points off my test teacher?

I bet your the guy who on Friday afternoons when everyone else wants to go home, you sit there and ask a bunch of dumb questions because "I got to show them they don't know a thing"

/just freaking deal, guy or gal


There was another typo in your latest post.
 
2013-11-17 05:27:50 PM

unmonkey: spman:  The problem is that 30% of the men are getting 90% of the women, but why that is I do not know.

That's easy.  It's because the top 30% of men are willing to hook up with 90% of the women.  So 90% of the women have access to the top 30% of men.  Why bother with the less-desirable 70%?  If the tables were turned, would you?


Problem is when that 90% want to settle down, and those 30% have too many options to ever think about doing that.

You then end up with single 30 something women who complain about men not "manning up".
 
2013-11-17 05:28:19 PM

Kumana Wanalaia: Hobo Jr.: Quantum Apostrophe: Hobo Jr.: I think alot of younger people are realizing "Don't stick your dick in crazy" is excellent advice.  And there is nothing crazier than a female between the ages of 14-19.

You want some more excellent advice? "A lot" is twowords.
/see how that looks?

Oh darn.  Are you gonna take points off my test teacher?

I bet your the guy who on Friday afternoons when everyone else wants to go home, you sit there and ask a bunch of dumb questions because "I got to show them they don't know a thing"

/just freaking deal, guy or gal

You should have written "you're".

And got should have been "have".


Darn. ;-)
 
2013-11-17 05:29:25 PM

Hobo Jr.: henryhill: Hobo Jr.: I think alot of younger people are realizing "Don't stick your dick in crazy" is excellent advice.  And there is nothing crazier than a female between the ages of 14-19.

Based on those two sentences, you are someone that should not be giving advice to anyone.

No, I just remember the females when I was in high school and middle school.

Sure, tons of perfectly normal females but when combined with the dynamics of public school, raging hormones, and quite frankly lack of any worldview, they can get pretty insane.

Not saying guys are any better but I can't speak accurately because I never tried to fark a teenage boy.


Tell us honestly: Is English your first language?
 
2013-11-17 05:36:29 PM

mmagdalene: Gergesa: spman: The problem is that 30% of the men are getting 90% of the women, but why that is I do not know.

I recall an economist saying there was a particular term for that phenomenon.  I think the economist also said something like boring stable men are overlooked until later in life(mid 30s).  I can't recall all the comparisons made to an actual commerce market but those are the two things I remember.

I can't think of many men under forty who don't seem to be struggling with perpetual adolescence. And by "struggling", I mean opting out of becoming multi-dimensional people with emotional maturity and interests which extend beyond video games and beer and into the larger world outside their living rooms.


You are on fark and enjoying videogames and beer receives derision from you?  Are you certain you are on the correct site?  Next thing we know you will come out against bacon.
 
2013-11-17 05:39:04 PM

Gergesa: mmagdalene: Gergesa: spman: The problem is that 30% of the men are getting 90% of the women, but why that is I do not know.

I recall an economist saying there was a particular term for that phenomenon.  I think the economist also said something like boring stable men are overlooked until later in life(mid 30s).  I can't recall all the comparisons made to an actual commerce market but those are the two things I remember.

I can't think of many men under forty who don't seem to be struggling with perpetual adolescence. And by "struggling", I mean opting out of becoming multi-dimensional people with emotional maturity and interests which extend beyond video games and beer and into the larger world outside their living rooms.

You are on fark and enjoying videogames and beer receives derision from you?  Are you certain you are on the correct site?  Next thing we know you will come out against bacon.


Happily married vegetarian. And I love a good stout, but don't like to drink alone.
 
2013-11-17 05:40:35 PM

Hobo Jr.: I think alot of younger people are realizing "Don't stick your dick in crazy" is excellent advice.  And there is nothing crazier than a female between the ages of 14-19.


I have bad news for you, sonny.
 
2013-11-17 05:41:10 PM
I blame internet porn for the increasing isolation from real relations and therefore increasing virginity. Awkward porn addicts who can't understand ladies that don't want ejaculation in their faces. 0r who can't understand why shaved pubes makes a dick look retarded and smaller not bigger.
 
2013-11-17 05:41:24 PM

SDRR: Hobo Jr.: I think alot of younger people are realizing "Don't stick your dick in crazy" is excellent advice.  And there is nothing crazier than a female between the ages of 14-19.

I have bad news for you, sonny.


Daddy? What do you call the rest of her?
 
2013-11-17 05:42:28 PM

simplicimus: Could it be that teenagers are more solipsistic than ever?

.

Being more solipsistic helps with the oral sex.
 
2013-11-17 05:44:18 PM

Hobo Jr.: I bet your the guy who


he may be but he doesn't embarrass himself with continual bad grammar.
 
2013-11-17 05:48:40 PM

phlegmmo: Pfft... if they're hard up they can always turn to their teachers.


Came to say that's what teachers, priests and I am for. Glad to see it's been covered.
 
2013-11-17 05:48:42 PM
It's okay. There are plenty of Gen Y teachers in their young 30s who will be happy to sext and fool around with teenagers.
 
2013-11-17 05:55:35 PM

Kevin72: I blame internet porn for the increasing isolation from real relations and therefore increasing virginity. Awkward porn addicts who can't understand ladies that don't want ejaculation in their faces. 0r who can't understand why shaved pubes makes a dick look retarded and smaller not bigger.


To be fair, dicks do tend to look kind of derpy.

Your point is excellent, though.
 
2013-11-17 05:56:11 PM

Kumana Wanalaia: And got should have been "have".


Hobo Jr.: And I have found the teacher's pet.


In this instance, strangely, "have" should've been "got".
 
2013-11-17 05:59:06 PM
Have you seen the 18-20-somethings lately?! They're all fat
 
2013-11-17 06:01:32 PM

Despair of the Cheese: I have two teenage daughters. I just gave them one sentence's worth of advice about dating while teenager--"Teenage boys are stupid--yes, all of them."  This seems to be contributing to their pickiness, so you can blame me if you want for the teenage dating shortage.

/Teenage boys are possibly the dumbest creatures on the planet
//Closely followed by teenage girls
///Yes, they both get PMS at the same time.


Thanks dad! It can be hard to convince teenage girls to date older men like me, so thanks for making it easier!

/I keed, I keed

In all seriousness though... the numbers in TFA seem pretty suspicious to me. That seems unrealistically low. Though in TFA they did mention the caveat that they were only talking about penile/vaginal intercourse, and not oral sex which is much more prevalent. So basically, kids are actually still having sex in much greater numbers then they first claimed, just that young folks today are shifting more towards oral sex.

Without that caveat I'd have called total bullshiat on their numbers... with the oral sex caveat I'd say the numbers are more likely, but deceiving, since oral sex is still sex.
 
2013-11-17 06:04:37 PM
Only half? Damn kids have it so easy these days.

Wait, are they basing their "do not date" criteria on gender?
 
2013-11-17 06:06:48 PM
As far as I can remember in high school, it was pretty much the same 20 or so girls farking the same 5 or so guys. They would hook up, fight, gossip and cry, make up, rinse and repeat. Somebody was always mad and somebody else and they were always on the verge of a riot or dance off or something.

I'm not entirely upset that I didn't participate in that.
 
2013-11-17 06:07:13 PM

Hobo Jr.: I think alot of younger people are realizing "Don't stick your dick in crazy" is excellent advice.  And there is nothing crazier than a female between the ages of 14-19.


Hahahahahaha...*breath*...hahahahaha....

You don't know "crazy" until you date educated, career women in their mid to late thirties who need to get married and have babies NOW YOU WORTHLESS WOMANIZING SON OF A biatch!

It's ok. I'm through that phase. I have filled the void with Fark.
 
2013-11-17 06:11:31 PM
Some percentage is probably waiting around to figure out whether they're gay or straight.
"I mean, suppose I really DO like girls?" the befuddled young lad asks himself. "Do I want my first experience to be the hot pole of that shy guy in study hall?"
 
2013-11-17 06:13:41 PM

J. Frank Parnell: Quantum Apostrophe: You want some more excellent advice? "A lot" is twowords.

Wait, are we talking about owning land now?


Or Genesis 19:30-36?
 
2013-11-17 06:26:08 PM

Witness99: Hobo Jr.: I think alot of younger people are realizing "Don't stick your dick in crazy" is excellent advice.  And there is nothing crazier than a female between the ages of 14-19.

Hahahahahaha...*breath*...hahahahaha....

You don't know "crazy" until you date educated, career women in their mid to late thirties who need to get married and have babies NOW YOU WORTHLESS WOMANIZING SON OF A biatch!

It's ok. I'm through that phase. I have filled the void with Fark.


Errr...should we expect to hear about you and 90 cats in the future?
 
2013-11-17 06:40:23 PM
I'm actually surprised it's not higher.  Most people, by and large, are unfarkable.
 
2013-11-17 06:40:54 PM
Which half is undatable? Top or the bottom half?
 
2013-11-17 06:42:50 PM

spman: Honestly, the internet and porn have a lot to do with it. Where as 20 years ago if you wanted to get your rocks off, you either had to get out there and socialize with women and actually work towards getting one, or be lucky enough to have a father with a stash of porn or have a friend or older brother who could get it for you. Now you can see any depraved act imaginable at the click of a button. Although I am married and not in that game anymore, I know how demoralizing rejection can be, and can understand how people might just eventually give up. The problem is that 30% of the men are getting 90% of the women, but why that is I do not know.


It's called being good looking and having a personality.

/Sadly I lack in both.
//Kidding on that.
///Gym, 26 minutes.
 
2013-11-17 06:58:38 PM

kth: FTFA: About 1/5 of college students will be virgins when they graduate college.


Shenanigans. The Jayhawk still hasn't taken flight.


Nor has tetsuto.
 
2013-11-17 07:00:12 PM

TotallyHeadless: Gergesa: spman: The problem is that 30% of the men are getting 90% of the women, but why that is I do not know.

I recall an economist saying there was a particular term for that phenomenon.  I think the economist also said something like boring stable men are overlooked until later in life(mid 30s).  I can't recall all the comparisons made to an actual commerce market but those are the two things I remember.

Pareto principle; though they usually put the skew to 20-80


So the average number of partners for men is like 8 (guessing) but the median is probably 2?  Meaning that 20% are basically Wilt Chamberlain wannabees.
 
2013-11-17 07:02:26 PM

mmagdalene: Kevin72: I blame internet porn for the increasing isolation from real relations and therefore increasing virginity. Awkward porn addicts who can't understand ladies that don't want ejaculation in their faces. 0r who can't understand why shaved pubes makes a dick look retarded and smaller not bigger.

To be fair, dicks do tend to look kind of derpy.

Your point is excellent, though.


Lion porn. Lionesses are attracted to and investigate the fake lions with the biggest manes.

The pubic hair is literally an extension of your magnetic (attraction) field. The opposites attract thing. Get it? His pubes with its pheremones attracted to hers. Shaving pubes only makes a dick more derpy, or for that matter more like a prepubescent pindick, which shouts out even louder "unattractive! Not a man! Do not touch!"
 
2013-11-17 07:06:29 PM
Most of the guys I knew in high school who were getting any action are now paying child support--in a few cases, to multiple mommies.  When I was starting out as an artist, one place I tempted at was the processing center in my state for child-support checks.  Every once in a while, you'd see some schmuck getting his part-time Wal*Mart getting divided up among six women--wow, a whole $1.35 of support per babe.  Yes, 30% of the guys get 90% of the babes (at least the brainless ones), but they're either paying through the nose for child support, or are shiftless bums who are too unemployed or criminal to worry about support payments.

I was an awkward teenager and, in retrospect, my hygiene was deliberately poor because the one thing that scared me shiatless in high school was getting some girl pregnant and ruining my life.  Hell, I really didn't blossom into the awesome stud I am (I keed, I keed) until got my tallywhacker snipped at the age of 24--vasectomies do a wonder with a guy's sex drive...
 
2013-11-17 07:15:58 PM

NateAsbestos: cryinoutloud: Yeah, so? If you took a random group of people your age and lined them up against a wall, I bet you'd think that at least half of them aren't good enough for you.

I see we've covered everything important here.

Most people do not find most OTHER people attractive. Film at 11.


But most people think other people find THEM attractive. Film at 11.

/Those Cheetos aren't going to eat themselves.
 
2013-11-17 07:20:12 PM
http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2013/11/09/half-of-teenagers-rem a in-virgins/#comments

Those comments, man. Gotta think of the gays!

Interesting about the much steeper decline for males who have had sex. I really have to wonder if there is any real deleterious effect of having so many sexless males out there. Is it really a problem, or is it more of a well-needed correction?

One of those comments mentions that there's less of a stigma around being a virgin, now. Do you think that's true? I'm not so sure about that.

I love these kinds of articles and discussions, btw.
 
2013-11-17 07:22:07 PM
All teenagers should be taught how to give awesome handjobs.

No pregnancies, everyone is relaxed.

All problems solved.
 
2013-11-17 07:27:34 PM

Nick Nostril: TotallyHeadless: Gergesa: spman: The problem is that 30% of the men are getting 90% of the women, but why that is I do not know.

I recall an economist saying there was a particular term for that phenomenon.  I think the economist also said something like boring stable men are overlooked until later in life(mid 30s).  I can't recall all the comparisons made to an actual commerce market but those are the two things I remember.

Pareto principle; though they usually put the skew to 20-80

So the average number of partners for men is like 8 (guessing) but the median is probably 2?  Meaning that 20% are basically Wilt Chamberlain wannabees.


For starters, I always thought that "Wilt" was an ironic name for a guy who supposedly got so many erections.  Did he ever get a vasectomy?  If not, the failure rate of the Pill is like 1%, so that translates into 200 babies he's fathered.  And, of course, I'd bet that many of his *snicker* 20,000 partners probably had the bright idea that getting impregnated by a famous basketball star means very lucrative child-support payments, so he might have fathered a lot more than 200.  BTW, did he ever have a venereal disease?  If so, he'd be a one-man sexual epidemic.  And didn't Magic Johnson have a zillion lovers, even when he was diagnosed with AIDS?
 
2013-11-17 07:41:39 PM

Psycat: For starters, I always thought that "Wilt" was an ironic name for a guy who supposedly got so many erections.


Shoulda been named "Rigid"
 
2013-11-17 07:48:22 PM
Statistics are for readers. What matters to each person is whether they are getting enough dates.

/farked a teen last week
 
2013-11-17 07:54:32 PM

Witness99: Hobo Jr.: I think alot of younger people are realizing "Don't stick your dick in crazy" is excellent advice.  And there is nothing crazier than a female between the ages of 14-19.

Hahahahahaha...*breath*...hahahahaha....

You don't know "crazy" until you date educated, career women in their mid to late thirties who need to get married and have babies NOW YOU WORTHLESS WOMANIZING SON OF A biatch!

It's ok. I'm through that phase. I have filled the void with Fark.


Fark fills a lot of voids. Dry.
 
2013-11-17 08:23:16 PM
"So, despite the fact that young people are more likely than earlier generations to engage in oral sex before initiating penile-vaginal intercourse"

I see they're using the strictest sense of the word virgin. Sorry but having your dick sucked/vagina licked is sex, you're no longer a virgin at that point.
 
2013-11-17 08:49:23 PM

Psycat: Nick Nostril: TotallyHeadless: Gergesa: spman: The problem is that 30% of the men are getting 90% of the women, but why that is I do not know.


It's because the kinds of men that women want in their teens and twenties are different from the kinds of men women want in their 30s. When women are just starting out (in high school and college), they don't want to make any commitments and are more geared towards short-term fun with dominant, high testosterone bad-boy douchebags. They don't mind sharing the douchebags because, well, they can't control what the douchebag does, and if other women throw themselves at the douchebag and he bites, she's just going to have to live with it if she wants to continue hooking up with him.

Once women's biological clocks start ringing around age 30 however, they start to migrate towards the less attractive and pudgy (but now rich and well situated) beta men who will help provide for their future children.  This seems to be The Way Things are Expected to Go now, and if pudgy betas don't like the fact that they have to wait in line for a decade or more and settle for secondhand va-jay-jay in order to get married and build a family, then that's tough. (Of course, if the pudgy betas decide to ignore women their own age and start sugar-daddying college students, you can expect the older women to cry foul and begin a barrage of shaming tactics. All the while failing to see anything wrong with their own profligate and mercenary behavior.)
 
2013-11-17 08:57:11 PM

WelldeadLink: Statistics are for readers. What matters to each person is whether they are getting enough dates.

/farked a teen last week


Me too, 1352 weeks ago.
 
2013-11-17 08:58:06 PM

Hobo Jr.: I think alot of younger people are realizing "Don't stick your dick in crazy" is excellent advice.  And there is nothing crazier than a female between the ages of 14-19.


They are crazier between 30-39... Then worse again after 55 eventually going completely batshiat crazy later and giggling into their oatmeal.
 
2013-11-17 09:02:03 PM

ReapTheChaos: "So, despite the fact that young people are more likely than earlier generations to engage in oral sex before initiating penile-vaginal intercourse"

I see they're using the strictest sense of the word virgin. Sorry but having your dick sucked/vagina licked is sex, you're no longer a virgin at that point.


Yes they are. It is sexual but not sex.

/Sorry if that makes you still a virgin.
 
2013-11-17 09:12:59 PM

henryhill: Hobo Jr.: I think alot of younger people are realizing "Don't stick your dick in crazy" is excellent advice.  And there is nothing crazier than a female between the ages of 14-19.

Based on those two sentences, you are someone that should not be giving advice to anyone.


Sounds like reasonable advice to me. I remember high school. I remember daughters.
 
2013-11-17 09:20:27 PM

Nick Nostril: TotallyHeadless: Gergesa: spman: The problem is that 30% of the men are getting 90% of the women, but why that is I do not know.

I recall an economist saying there was a particular term for that phenomenon.  I think the economist also said something like boring stable men are overlooked until later in life(mid 30s).  I can't recall all the comparisons made to an actual commerce market but those are the two things I remember.

Pareto principle; though they usually put the skew to 20-80

So the average number of partners for men is like 8 (guessing) but the median is probably 2?  Meaning that 20% are basically Wilt Chamberlain wannabees.


Or 20% of men are farking 80% of women, and the other 80% of men are left with the 20% of women, or slim pickings.

But there is a subset of men whose only occupation is to try and pick up women.
 
2013-11-17 09:34:04 PM
Its the obesity problem at work. More fatties means more unfarkable people.
 
2013-11-17 09:44:30 PM
I went to a diverse high school. Started there in sophomore year. My second week there, a girl showed up with a baby. She had to skip school for a year when she had her baby. She was starting Junior year and wanted to show off her little guy to her schoolmates. The baby was adorable, but it made me realize that I was not ready to deal with birth control, let alone babies. I waited until college and had to make do with an active imagination and embarassingly stupid romance novels.  A number of my friends were pretty much in the same camp. Once college came, with the free birth control from the clinic, Wild Times were had.
 
2013-11-17 09:54:52 PM

TotallyHeadless: But there is a subset of men whose only occupation is to try and pick up women.


Lucky bastards.
 
2013-11-17 10:04:12 PM

Despair of the Cheese: I have two teenage daughters. I just gave them one sentence's worth of advice about dating while teenager--"Teenage boys Teenagers are stupid--yes, all of them."  This seems to be contributing to their pickiness, so you can blame me if you want for the teenage dating shortage.

/Teenage boys are possibly the dumbest creatures on the planet
//Closely followed by teenage girls
///Yes, they both get PMS at the same time.


All of them indeed.
 
2013-11-17 10:53:11 PM
Came expecting pics of fat or ugly cheerleaders......leaving disappointed
 
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