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(Anchorage Daily News)   Residents in Anchorage are upset over a road plan that would connect to streets because the project will swallow up green space. As if there's not enough green space in Alaska   (adn.com) divider line 48
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2013-11-17 10:15:26 AM
There's a difference between green space in general, and green space conveniently close to where you live.

I don't consider my immediate area to have too many musical theater productions, even though NYC is only about 280 miles away, which is far closer than most of Alaska is to most of the rest of Alaska.

You're also assuming that their stated reason for opposition is their actual reason, and not simply the one that sounds most reasonable when professed openly.
 
2013-11-17 11:18:29 AM
What, pray tell, is being connected to the streets?
 
2013-11-17 11:22:16 AM

TwoBeersOneCan: What, pray tell, is being connected to the streets?


Is it not green space, or enough plans?
 
2013-11-17 11:24:39 AM
There's so much green space in Alaska, that they could put all of Anchorage (including every man, woman, child, building, tree, plant, etc)  under asphalt and there'd still be tons of green between Anchorage and, say, Barrow.

Goddam hippies want it all!!
 
2013-11-17 11:25:04 AM
Isn't it very dark whitespace most of the time, anyway?
 
2013-11-17 11:25:20 AM
I guess this explains why the Bridge To Nowhere didn't seem to bother Alaskans.
 
2013-11-17 11:28:01 AM
After watching Buying Alaska for the first time last night, it seems as though no one in the state wants any human contact. All any Alaskan wants to do is move into the wilderness and die of exposure and/or starvation
 
2013-11-17 11:28:43 AM
they have oil, i have a feeling Bush III will invade them in 3, ..., 2 .... 1...
 
2013-11-17 11:30:04 AM
Pave, baby, pave.
 
2013-11-17 11:30:12 AM

Badmoodman: I guess this explains why the Bridge To Nowhere didn't seem to bother Alaskans.


I see where you are confused, Anchorage is just outside of Alaska.
 
2013-11-17 11:30:22 AM
why can't the road plan connect to green space
 
2013-11-17 11:31:01 AM

DubyaHater: After watching Buying Alaska for the first time last night, it seems as though no one in the state wants any human contact. All any Alaskan wants to do is move into the wilderness and die of exposure and/or starvation


Well, they ARE in Alaska. Can you really blame them for longing for the sweet release of death (or at least a one-way plane ticket to Seattle)?
 
2013-11-17 11:31:13 AM
The biggest wtf about Alaska is its weird alcohol laws.. Each town can decide if alcohol is legal or illegal.. Most choose illegal..  So Alaska still has a war on alcohol.. Maybe one day they can be cool like us and have a war on drugs.
 
2013-11-17 11:32:21 AM
You! Telling me the things you're gonna do for me. I ain't blind and I don't like what I think I see. Connecting it to the streets.
 
2013-11-17 11:34:01 AM
It might obstruct someone's view of Russia.
 
2013-11-17 11:36:39 AM
Density is density. You can have urban space in the most ungodly areas: Siberia, north Africa, Florida...
 
2013-11-17 11:39:28 AM
These are likely the same residents who are upset at the existing green space being populated by bums.
 
2013-11-17 11:42:22 AM

styckx: The biggest wtf about Alaska is its weird alcohol laws.. Each town can decide if alcohol is legal or illegal.. Most choose illegal..  So Alaska still has a war on alcohol.. Maybe one day they can be cool like us and have a war on drugs.


I thought Alaska was all about freedom and independence from government.  Are you telling me that's not true?  Next you'll tell me that not all Californians surf.
 
2013-11-17 11:47:10 AM
Subby sounds fat.
 
2013-11-17 11:47:26 AM
theres enough geenspace, until there isnt.
 
2013-11-17 11:50:51 AM
Oh yeah, if you have plenty of something then you must be a dumbass for not wasting it.
 
2013-11-17 11:53:42 AM
Here's an idea. The people that want to leave somebody else's land as greenspace can lease it from the current owners and leave it as greespsace. There, everybody gets what they want.
 
2013-11-17 12:10:46 PM

styckx: The biggest wtf about Alaska is its weird alcohol laws.. Each town can decide if alcohol is legal or illegal.. Most choose illegal..  So Alaska still has a war on alcohol.. Maybe one day they can be cool like us and have a war on drugs.


I see you've never been to Alabama, Texas, Arkansas, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, outside of your own home, really.

And the rationale is based on Native American legislation.  They tend to be alcoholics in case you haven't noticed.  Not saying their approach is the best one, but that's what they've decided.

/Not sure if stupid or Canadian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_county
 
2013-11-17 12:15:55 PM
It's all been said, so I'll just note that I'm on the side of the green spacers. There's a fair amount of green space in the lower 48, doesn't mean I want another road run through the local city park.

/we can talk about additional parking, tho
 
2013-11-17 12:16:44 PM

styckx: The biggest wtf about Alaska is its weird alcohol laws.. Each town can decide if alcohol is legal or illegal.. Most choose illegal..  So Alaska still has a war on alcohol.. Maybe one day they can be cool like us and have a war on drugs.


My god.  You're stuck in Alaska AND you can't drink?  I hope they still sell shotguns and single shells.
 
2013-11-17 12:31:27 PM

Koodz: I hope they still sell rentshotguns and single shells.

 
2013-11-17 12:37:03 PM
Bananas

Build
absolutely
nothing
anywhere
near
anybody.

It's the radicalized version of NIMBY.
 
2013-11-17 12:38:37 PM
Traffic is the concern, green is the excuse.
 
2013-11-17 12:39:26 PM
Oh where will they possibly go for fresh air in Alaska if they build one road?
 
2013-11-17 12:42:38 PM

brimed03: It's all been said, so I'll just note that I'm on the side of the green spacers. There's a fair amount of green space in the lower 48, doesn't mean I want another road run through the local city park.

/we can talk about additional parking, tho


How about a strip mine?
 
2013-11-17 01:14:01 PM
Aren't the Inuit more susceptible to alcohol addiction and abuse than other races?
 
2013-11-17 01:16:57 PM

lenfromak: These are likely the same residents who are upset at the existing green space being populated by bums.


Yes, in fact. And upset about the crimes by said folks hiding in the green area, and their littering.
 
2013-11-17 01:17:03 PM

Lionel Mandrake: styckx: The biggest wtf about Alaska is its weird alcohol laws.. Each town can decide if alcohol is legal or illegal.. Most choose illegal..  So Alaska still has a war on alcohol.. Maybe one day they can be cool like us and have a war on drugs.

I thought Alaska was all about freedom and independence from government.  Are you telling me that's not true?  Next you'll tell me that not all Californians surf.


The individual villages vote on it, only the residents get to vote.

Democracy in action
 
2013-11-17 01:26:32 PM
Alcoholism is a big problem in Alaska. That is why they find bodies in the Chena river every breakup.

As for "Green Spaces", there is a limited amount of useful land. It is not just unlimited space. Much of Alaska is permafrost. Permafrost is like a big jello swamp covered in shag carpet. Build on it and your buildings sink. Even places as far south as Anchorage are effected. The idiots that think you can just "pave Alaska" have never lived there.

Alaska is a very different world than the lower 48.
 
2013-11-17 01:28:33 PM

clovis69: Lionel Mandrake: styckx: The biggest wtf about Alaska is its weird alcohol laws.. Each town can decide if alcohol is legal or illegal.. Most choose illegal..  So Alaska still has a war on alcohol.. Maybe one day they can be cool like us and have a war on drugs.

I thought Alaska was all about freedom and independence from government.  Are you telling me that's not true?  Next you'll tell me that not all Californians surf.

The individual villages vote on it, only the residents get to vote.

Democracy in action


Yup...even local democracy can suck.
 
2013-11-17 01:29:26 PM

BlackArt: Alcoholism is a big problem in Alaska. That is why they find bodies in the Chena river every breakup.

As for "Green Spaces", there is a limited amount of useful land. It is not just unlimited space. Much of Alaska is permafrost. Permafrost is like a big jello swamp covered in shag carpet. Build on it and your buildings sink. Even places as far south as Anchorage are effected. The idiots that think you can just "pave Alaska" have never lived there.

Alaska is a very different world than the lower 48.


Visited there this summer, would seriously consider moving there.
 
2013-11-17 01:29:33 PM
Yeah subby, fark nature. Pave the Earth!
 
2013-11-17 01:46:18 PM
Well there is no road linking Juneau...so.
 
2013-11-17 02:00:13 PM

styckx: The biggest wtf about Alaska is its weird alcohol laws.. Each town can decide if alcohol is legal or illegal.. Most choose illegal..  So Alaska still has a war on alcohol.. Maybe one day they can be cool like us and have a war on drugs.


Spend time with native alaskans and you will realize not to even mention alcohol around them.
 
2013-11-17 02:38:06 PM

Boojum2k: BlackArt: Alcoholism is a big problem in Alaska. That is why they find bodies in the Chena river every breakup.

As for "Green Spaces", there is a limited amount of useful land. It is not just unlimited space. Much of Alaska is permafrost. Permafrost is like a big jello swamp covered in shag carpet. Build on it and your buildings sink. Even places as far south as Anchorage are effected. The idiots that think you can just "pave Alaska" have never lived there.

Alaska is a very different world than the lower 48.

Visited there this summer, would seriously consider moving there.


Visit in the winter, round the end of January. That'll cure you.
 
2013-11-17 02:46:35 PM

nytmare: Aren't the Inuit more susceptible to alcohol addiction and abuse than other races?


I don't know, why don't you ask the people of the Canadian Arctic if that's the case?

The native population in Anchorage is mostly Denaina or other Athapaskans, and natives that move there from other areas may be Aleut, or Yupik or Inupiaq, who'd rather you call them 'eskimo' than 'Inuit', since they're not Inuit. They'll all call you qus'ik just the same.
 
2013-11-17 03:00:43 PM

lenfromak: Boojum2k: BlackArt: Alcoholism is a big problem in Alaska. That is why they find bodies in the Chena river every breakup.

As for "Green Spaces", there is a limited amount of useful land. It is not just unlimited space. Much of Alaska is permafrost. Permafrost is like a big jello swamp covered in shag carpet. Build on it and your buildings sink. Even places as far south as Anchorage are effected. The idiots that think you can just "pave Alaska" have never lived there.

Alaska is a very different world than the lower 48.

Visited there this summer, would seriously consider moving there.

Visit in the winter, round the end of January. That'll cure you.


I like it cold and dark.
 
2013-11-17 03:21:22 PM

TwoBeersOneCan: What, pray tell, is being connected to the streets?


A person may write

`I have two cats. They like to eat mice. My neighbor has a cat too.`

Unless you are a moran then it is

`I have to cats. They like too mice. My neighbor has a cat two.`
 
2013-11-17 03:22:01 PM

dready zim: TwoBeersOneCan: What, pray tell, is being connected to the streets?

A person may write

`I have two cats. They like to eat mice. My neighbor has a cat too.`

Unless you are a moran then it is

`I have to cats. They like too eat mice. My neighbor has a cat two.`


FTFM

/I`m a moran it seems...
 
2013-11-17 05:39:59 PM
Giving the Alaska native villages the ability to prohibit alcohol was absolutely necessary.  Some of the villages achieved 100% alcoholism rates (that includes the children) and many of them exceeded 95%.

As far as green space in Anchorage goes, they've shoehorned themselves into a particularly inconvenient corner.  They can't sprawl, because they're in a triangle-shaped area with two sides of water and one side of state park:

www.muni.org
 
2013-11-17 05:42:43 PM

lenfromak: Boojum2k: BlackArt: Alcoholism is a big problem in Alaska. That is why they find bodies in the Chena river every breakup.

As for "Green Spaces", there is a limited amount of useful land. It is not just unlimited space. Much of Alaska is permafrost. Permafrost is like a big jello swamp covered in shag carpet. Build on it and your buildings sink. Even places as far south as Anchorage are effected. The idiots that think you can just "pave Alaska" have never lived there.

Alaska is a very different world than the lower 48.

Visited there this summer, would seriously consider moving there.

Visit in the winter, round the end of January. That'll cure you.


Am I weird for liking winter better than summer?  The weather is clear more often and the sky turns all kinds of pretty colors during the afternoon.  It's kinda like living on another planet, I get to go around pretending I'm Ensign Twitch.
 
2013-11-17 08:21:21 PM

Twitch Boy: Am I weird for liking winter better than summer? The weather is clear more often and the sky turns all kinds of pretty colors during the afternoon the sun sits very low. If that isn't bad enough it reflects off the ice/snow and makes the blinding light worse. It's kinda like living on another planet, I get to go around pretending I'm Ensign Twitch.


FTFY

/I actually liked the winter months more as well. No A Town tourist folk.
//Driving sucked at times depending on the direction I was traveling though
 
2013-11-18 12:24:50 AM

Tenatra: Twitch Boy: Am I weird for liking winter better than summer? The weather is clear more often and the sky turns all kinds of pretty colors during the afternoon the sun sits very low. If that isn't bad enough it reflects off the ice/snow and makes the blinding light worse. It's kinda like living on another planet, I get to go around pretending I'm Ensign Twitch.

FTFY

/I actually liked the winter months more as well. No A Town tourist folk.
//Driving sucked at times depending on the direction I was traveling though


The winter light is just so harsh. Blah.
 
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