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(Des Moines Register)   Paul Ryan tells Iowans to be "a little more skeptical" next presidential election. Ironically, they weren't all ears   (blogs.desmoinesregister.com) divider line 117
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2013-11-17 12:27:44 AM  
"I think the left, I think they're learning a pretty valuable lesson here," he said. "The lesson they're learning, unfortunately with all the human collateral damage from this Obamacare spectacle, is that you don't shut out the opposition, you don't cram (through) a bad bill, you don't say one thing when you know it's another then, and then when it all blows up in your face 'I'm sorry' is just not going to cut it."

Yes, let's all express our grave concern for a couple million people being inconvenienced then go back to the good old days, when tens of millions were uninsured.

And it wasn't "crammed through," it was passed according the rules of the Constitution, douchebag.
 
2013-11-17 12:37:11 AM  
"I think the left, I think they're learning a pretty valuable lesson here," he said. "The lesson they're learning, unfortunately with all the human collateral damage from this Obamacare spectacle, is that you don't shut out the opposition, you don't cram (through) a bad bill, you don't say one thing when you know it's another then, and then when it all blows up in your face 'I'm sorry' is just not going to cut it."

No, Congressman, that's not the lesson the left has learned.  The lesson the left has learned is that if you give the Tea Party an inch, they will take a mile and then criticize you for giving up a mile.
 
2013-11-17 12:58:52 AM  
The GOP trolling campaign style...it would piss me off more if somehow didn't reveal them to be liars.
 
2013-11-17 12:59:48 AM  
Shouldn't Vice President Dudebro be gearing up to go somewhere in 26 minutes?
 
2013-11-17 01:10:38 AM  
Says the dude with a budget written by the Wizard of Oz.
 
2013-11-17 01:10:54 AM  
Ryan went on to say, "However, you shouldn't be so skeptical of politicians that you actually fact-check the biggest speech of my career."
 
2013-11-17 01:12:07 AM  

stoli n coke: Shouldn't Vice President Dudebro be gearing up to go somewhere in 26 minutes?


He's already there.
 
2013-11-17 01:13:02 AM  
What makes him think that people will buy this crap NOW when they didn't a year ago?
 
2013-11-17 01:15:23 AM  
He should marry Sarah Palin. But I understand why not.

/She'd divorce him in 2 years.
 
2013-11-17 01:34:15 AM  
Dear Iowans,
We promise not to look for shallow graves in the corn fields if Congressman Ryan happens to disappear.
 
2013-11-17 01:46:08 AM  
If Iowans could be skeptical they wouldn't have voted Gov. Braindead back into office.
 
2013-11-17 01:47:25 AM  
"As I look back at the campaign, the problem Mitt and I had was that we were arguing against big government in theory"

media.nbcdfw.com
 
2013-11-17 02:00:38 AM  
Ryan said Obamacare's had "a few hiccups lately." Democrats were dishonest or incompetent when they said people who like their health insurance policies would be able to keep them, he said.

Well, he's going to let you keep your sh*tty policies now. Happy?
 
2013-11-17 02:04:48 AM  
Someone call the Children of the Corn.
 
2013-11-17 02:08:29 AM  
Ryan in Iowa just reminds me that the Republican party is only a regional party, and not a national party. It seems to me that if the fringe extremists (Ryan, Paul, Cruz, Perry, etal.) are already ramping up for 2016, that the mainstream moderates should also be out there building name recognition. Has anyone seen those guys yet? The mainstream moderate Republicans? Anyone?
 
2013-11-17 02:16:10 AM  
Goddamn democrats, Obama should have gone on TV and said "you're damn right you can't keep those piece of shiat ripoff plans"
 
2013-11-17 02:20:31 AM  
Ryan said the GOP needs to show it's "not just the opposition party but the proposition party."

Color me skeptical.
 
2013-11-17 02:23:32 AM  
If the voters were really that skeptical, they wouldn't have wasted their money listening to this dipshiat speak.

As long as people treat the Republican Party as a viable solution, then we're going to continue to have the same problems we've seen in the past 12 years.
 
2013-11-17 02:25:53 AM  

Notabunny: Ryan in Iowa just reminds me that the Republican party is only a regional party, and not a national party. It seems to me that if the fringe extremists (Ryan, Paul, Cruz, Perry, etal.) are already ramping up for 2016, that the mainstream moderates should also be out there building name recognition. Has anyone seen those guys yet? The mainstream moderate Republicans? Anyone?


His name is Chris Christie.

I know.
 
2013-11-17 02:26:53 AM  
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2013-11-17 02:34:07 AM  
Ha ha.  Paul Ryan's career would disappear if voters were more skeptical of the claim that tax cuts pay for themselves.

Anyway, there's a fairly good chance that Paul Ryan is the Republican nominee in 2016.  He can plausibly claim next-in-line status in the primaries.  He doesn't alienate any segment of the GOP, and he's not tainted by the Tea Party.

He can beat Hillary Clinton.  He's younger, better looking, more likeable than her.  That "I wanna drink a beer with him!" b.s. is way more of a factor in voting than Democrats want to admit.

President Ryan would enter the White House as the unemployment rate is dropping.  If he times it just right, he could argue that the recession was Obama's fault and take credit for the recovery.  It worked for Reagan and Clinton.

If the economy really takes off in Year 1 or 2, he could probably attribute it to increased confidence about the long-term budget, as a result of his signature budget initiative that privatizes Medicare.
 
2013-11-17 02:34:50 AM  

Notabunny: Ryan in Iowa just reminds me that the Republican party is only a regional party, and not a national party. It seems to me that if the fringe extremists (Ryan, Paul, Cruz, Perry, etal.) are already ramping up for 2016, that the mainstream moderates should also be out there building name recognition. Has anyone seen those guys yet? The mainstream moderate Republicans? Anyone?


Ryan, Paul, Cruz, and Perry ARE the mainstream moderate republicans.

that's the problem
 
2013-11-17 02:38:21 AM  
Was he talking to the Iowans who voted for Michelle Bachmann in the 2012 straw poll or the Iowans who voted for Santorum in the caucuses?
 
2013-11-17 02:39:30 AM  
"Human collateral damage"?
 
2013-11-17 02:41:20 AM  

Hollie Maea: Goddamn democrats, Obama should have gone on TV and said "you're damn right you can't keep those piece of shiat ripoff plans"


This. While Republicans may be evil Democrats have proven once again that they're farking spineless. Caving on this is just going to encourage the right-wing derpsters.
 
2013-11-17 02:41:22 AM  
Watching this Obama presidency in general, and the healthcare debacle in particular, I have a serious question (two parter):

Let's say you're running for office, and you discover that the electorate are such utter and complete morons that whoever has the most money is 99.9999% guaranteed to win.
a) wouldn't you pretty much HAVE TO suck up to the evil rich guy such that he gave money to you (or at least didn't exclusively bankroll your opponent)?
b) how would you continue to care to save the previously mentioned morons from themselves, especially when they're too stupid to appreciate the things you managed to implement that benefited them?

/not defending corrupt Koch-sucking politicians, but I do wonder how Obama doesn't just sit in a locked garage with the car running some days
//assuming of course, he started out with altruistic intentions
 
2013-11-17 02:47:10 AM  

Kuta: Was he talking to the Iowans who voted for Michelle Bachmann in the 2012 straw poll or the Iowans who voted for Santorum in the caucuses?


Of course he was talking to a roomful of ex-Obama voters who decided that ACA was "the last straw that's it I'm voting Republican now until RON/RAND PAUL runs again."
 
2013-11-17 02:59:34 AM  

whidbey: Kuta: Was he talking to the Iowans who voted for Michelle Bachmann in the 2012 straw poll or the Iowans who voted for Santorum in the caucuses?

Of course he was talking to a roomful of ex-Obama voters who decided that ACA was "the last straw that's it I'm voting Republican now until RON/RAND PAUL runs again."


So, 2016.
 
2013-11-17 03:02:20 AM  

Captain Dan: Ha ha.  Paul Ryan's career would disappear if voters were more skeptical of the claim that tax cuts pay for themselves.

Anyway, there's a fairly good chance that Paul Ryan is the Republican nominee in 2016.  He can plausibly claim next-in-line status in the primaries.  He doesn't alienate any segment of the GOP, and he's not tainted by the Tea Party.

He can beat Hillary Clinton.  He's younger, better looking, more likeable than her.  That "I wanna drink a beer with him!" b.s. is way more of a factor in voting than Democrats want to admit.

President Ryan would enter the White House as the unemployment rate is dropping.  If he times it just right, he could argue that the recession was Obama's fault and take credit for the recovery.  It worked for Reagan and Clinton.

If the economy really takes off in Year 1 or 2, he could probably attribute it to increased confidence about the long-term budget, as a result of his signature budget initiative that privatizes Medicare.


Who the fark wants to drink a beer with Paul Ryan?

He'd probably spend the whole time talking about his pecs.
 
2013-11-17 03:03:05 AM  

Gyrfalcon: whidbey: Kuta: Was he talking to the Iowans who voted for Michelle Bachmann in the 2012 straw poll or the Iowans who voted for Santorum in the caucuses?

Of course he was talking to a roomful of ex-Obama voters who decided that ACA was "the last straw that's it I'm voting Republican now until RON/RAND PAUL runs again."

So, 2016.


No now. These are angry sputtering ex-Obamunists ready to strike in 2014. It's totally like the Bay of Pigs.
 
2013-11-17 03:08:35 AM  

Captain Dan: Ha ha.  Paul Ryan's career would disappear if voters were more skeptical of the claim that tax cuts pay for themselves.

Anyway, there's a fairly good chance that Paul Ryan is the Republican nominee in 2016.  He can plausibly claim next-in-line status in the primaries.  He doesn't alienate any segment of the GOP, and he's not tainted by the Tea Party.

He can beat Hillary Clinton.  He's younger, better looking, more likeable than her.  That "I wanna drink a beer with him!" b.s. is way more of a factor in voting than Democrats want to admit.

President Ryan would enter the White House as the unemployment rate is dropping.  If he times it just right, he could argue that the recession was Obama's fault and take credit for the recovery.  It worked for Reagan and Clinton.

If the economy really takes off in Year 1 or 2, he could probably attribute it to increased confidence about the long-term budget, as a result of his signature budget initiative that privatizes Medicare.


If it's Ryan v Hillary, it will be impossible for the Republicans to corral their party well enough to avoid coming off misogynist. Women organize better than men, and will vote for her just to crush the simpering douche. He's already made stupid decisions regarding rape babies, and women don't let go of grudges easily.
 
2013-11-17 03:31:20 AM  
Paul Ryan reminds me of Anthony Weiner.

I can't help it; they look rather similar.

The difference, of course being that when Paul Ryan exposed his dick to the world, it gets him nominated for VP.

/Yes, I just compared the Ryan Budget to Weiner's penis.
//Not really a fair comparison, I know
///Weiner's penis was far less offensive
 
2013-11-17 03:32:59 AM  

Jorn the Younger: Paul Ryan reminds me of Anthony Weiner.

I can't help it; they look rather similar.

The difference, of course being that when Paul Ryan exposed his dick to the world, it gets him nominated for VP.

/Yes, I just compared the Ryan Budget to Weiner's penis.
//Not really a fair comparison, I know
///Weiner's penis was far less offensive


What if he exposed his dick to freezing temperatures?
 
2013-11-17 03:44:34 AM  

whidbey: Gyrfalcon: whidbey: Kuta: Was he talking to the Iowans who voted for Michelle Bachmann in the 2012 straw poll or the Iowans who voted for Santorum in the caucuses?

Of course he was talking to a roomful of ex-Obama voters who decided that ACA was "the last straw that's it I'm voting Republican now until RON/RAND PAUL runs again."

So, 2016.

No now. These are angry sputtering ex-Obamunists ready to strike in 2014. It's totally like the Bay of Pigs.


---- Rand Paul
 
2013-11-17 03:50:10 AM  

Captain Dan: Anyway, there's a fairly good chance that Paul Ryan is the Republican nominee in 2016.


You and I have different ideas of what constitutes good.

He can plausibly claim next-in-line status in the primaries.

Santorum is gonna try to claim that status.

He doesn't alienate any segment of the GOP, and he's not tainted by the Tea Party.

I am so not gonna make the obvious joke here.
 
2013-11-17 04:05:23 AM  

fusillade762: Ryan said Obamacare's had "a few hiccups lately." Democrats were dishonest or incompetent when they said people who like their health insurance policies would be able to keep them, he said.

Well, he's going to let you keep your sh*tty policies now. Happy?


Yep and you will be too.
So called "conservatives" always fuss, grumble, whine - and then take what they are given by society, like everybody else, and love it.
Remind me to keep that mean old gummint out of your social security, Granny Hypocrite.
 
2013-11-17 04:08:42 AM  
Is there ever ANYTHING new that comes out of the political world?  It's the same old rehash of the same old siht over and over and over.  Come up with some new ideas politicians.  The old stuff is well, old.
 
2013-11-17 05:07:43 AM  
Even if you're completely pissed off about Obamacare what would you expect switching your vote to Republican to accomplish?
 
2013-11-17 05:10:50 AM  

HooskerDoo: Even if you're completely pissed off about Obamacare what would you expect switching your vote to Republican to accomplish?


Hurting people?
 
2013-11-17 05:12:45 AM  

Alphax: HooskerDoo: Even if you're completely pissed off about Obamacare what would you expect switching your vote to Republican to accomplish?

Hurting people?


Well, there is that.
 
2013-11-17 05:47:08 AM  
"the next time you have a famous politician coming through Iowa, breezing through the towns, talking about big government, let's be a little more skeptical,"

I approve of this message. Because there's only one side that talks about "big government", and it ain't the Democrats.
 
2013-11-17 06:14:20 AM  
Meh... Can we not return to taxing the rich fecks? It is American Tradition since 1916, Saint 666 notwitstanding...
 
2013-11-17 06:27:03 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Says the dude with a budget written by the Wizard of Oz.


Considering the total horror it would inflict upon anyone with less than ten million in an offshore bank account, it had to have been written by HP Lovecraft.
 
2013-11-17 07:38:48 AM  
How to lie with lies and be a big fat liar who is good at lying, by Paul Ryan.
 
2013-11-17 07:40:26 AM  

coeyagi: How to lie with lies and be a big fat liar who is good at lying, by Paul Ryan.


And read aloud without attribution by Rand Paul.
 
2013-11-17 08:12:17 AM  
How did he say all that with a straight face?
 
2013-11-17 08:42:40 AM  
Yeah Iowa! It's all your fault!
 
2013-11-17 08:47:18 AM  

quatchi: Captain Dan: Anyway, there's a fairly good chance that Paul Ryan is the Republican nominee in 2016.

You and I have different ideas of what constitutes good.

He can plausibly claim next-in-line status in the primaries.

Santorum is gonna try to claim that status.

He doesn't alienate any segment of the GOP, and he's not tainted by the Tea Party.

I am so not gonna make the obvious joke here.


Having taint and santorum in the same post without making a joke shows incredible restraint, but now I can't stop whether the proper term would be tainted santorum, or santorumed taint.
 
2013-11-17 08:51:31 AM  

whidbey: No now. These are angry sputtering ex-Obamunists ready to strike in 2014. It's totally like the Bay of Pigs.


You mean, all we have to do is withdraw air support and the whole thing will go completely sideways instantly?
 
2013-11-17 08:56:15 AM  

omnibus_necanda_sunt: If it's Ryan v Hillary, it will be impossible for the Republicans to corral their party well enough to avoid coming off misogynist. Women organize better than men, and will vote for her just to crush the simpering douche. He's already made stupid decisions regarding rape babies, and women don't let go of grudges easily.


Highlighted for truth...
 
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