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2013-11-16 07:42:42 PM  
This is why people who talk about how they want things made in America, how they want companies to be ethical, how they want companies to pay well and give their employees benefits, they just make economists laugh.

That's now how you're voting with your money.
 
2013-11-16 07:45:06 PM  
Sears, Target, McDonalds (sparingly), and Taco Bell (also sparingly) are the only places on that list I shop.
 
2013-11-16 08:12:34 PM  
Walmart is the only place I go on that list.  In my small town, sometimes you have to, or drive 80 miles to a larger town with more options.
 
2013-11-16 08:25:05 PM  
I confess, it has only been the last half of this year that I have begun to "walk the walk". But I now pay two dollars a bag more for dog food, get up twenty minutes earlier to make my own breakfast and pack a lunch, pay ten percent more for the occasional light bulb, and generally pay more for the things I buy to support our local economy. I bear no ill will to the employees of the nationwide chains hereabouts, but I honestly believe there is enough money around  here that a rise in the minimum wage to 10 or even 12 bucks an hour would not significantly impact these companies bottom line.
Threads are an issue that really bother me. I used to "Look for the Union label", but that seems to be as extinct as the dodo.  Even looking for the
"Made in the USA" label is a heavy lift. Walmart, Target, et al, have so distorted the retail market by their inordinate sway over suppliers, that buying American seems to be limited to my hand tools and apples.
 
2013-11-16 08:30:05 PM  
I was surprised to see Kroger there. My favorite grocery store is a Kroger store.
 
2013-11-16 08:37:15 PM  
I spend about 0.01% of my disposable income in those places.
 
2013-11-16 08:38:28 PM  
Hey, the last two employers I interviewed for are on there! Go glad I went to college.
 
2013-11-16 08:39:09 PM  
www.demotivationalposters.org
 
2013-11-16 08:39:28 PM  
 Macy's surprised me. The others were not surprising.
 
2013-11-16 08:39:32 PM  
6. Sears Holdings

Ummm, I didn't think anyone shopped there anymore. I guess maybe for Craftsman stuff.
 
2013-11-16 08:41:21 PM  
What?  Star Bucks used to be one of the better places in retail because they paid better than most and included benefits.  When did that change?
 
2013-11-16 08:41:48 PM  

Ambivalence: I was surprised to see Kroger there. My favorite grocery store is a Kroger store.


Based on the complete uselessness of every deli operated by a Kroger store in the Greater Los Angeles area I can believe it. farking useless.
 
2013-11-16 08:43:10 PM  
FTFA: Still, pay for many workers at Olive Garden and Red Lobster is frequently less than $10.00 per hour, according to Glassdoor.com. However, many of these employees may receive tips in addition to their base pay.

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2013-11-16 08:43:30 PM  
The only listed establishment which I frequent is Target. Costco takes way more of my money.
 
2013-11-16 08:44:49 PM  
Actually, that's just an arbitrary list of large companies that employ a lot of low-skill workers.

There are certainly a lot of smaller companies that have a lower average, not to mention every farm that employs below-minimum wage workers..

Temple explained: "Low-wage companies have choices. They can continue making a lot of profits, and can continue paying their CEOs an incredible amount of money by paying low wages to their employees. But they have the resources to operate profitably and pay high wages as well."

Well some of these companies have CEOs that are quite overpaid as well, and they should be making cuts there to increase profits.  If their boards were doing their jobs, that is.
 
2013-11-16 08:45:16 PM  

Gig103: 6. Sears Holdings

Ummm, I didn't think anyone shopped there anymore. I guess maybe for Craftsman stuff.


It's the only one on the list I do shop at. You still can't beat craftsman hand tools in price and quality, and their power tools are competitive in price (especially on sale, which is most of the time), but not always quality.

I am very surprised at the low pay, tho.
 
2013-11-16 08:46:02 PM  
Walmart makes about $12,000 per year, per employee. I don't think that sounds outrageous.
 
2013-11-16 08:46:22 PM  
I don't shop at any of those places. In fact, I never have. I live off the land, off the grid, and I only eat what I grow and kill. I am awesome.
 
2013-11-16 08:46:38 PM  

OgreMagi: What?  Star Bucks used to be one of the better places in retail because they paid better than most and included benefits.  When did that change?


About the same time they ran out of locations to open a new store more the 29 feet from an existing store.
 
2013-11-16 08:47:05 PM  
What did you expect, McKinsey to make the list? Shell Oil? Of course it is going to be all retailers because the vast majority of the workforce is unskilled labor.

Such a non-story.
 
2013-11-16 08:47:09 PM  

tuna fingers: FTFA:  Still, pay for many workers at Olive Garden and Red Lobster is frequently less than $10.00 per hour, according to Glassdoor.com. However, many of these employees may receive tips in addition to their base pay.

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Or not.
 
2013-11-16 08:47:22 PM  
I was expecting Amazon to be on the list.
 
2013-11-16 08:47:42 PM  
I do admit that sometimes I feel I'd be ok with paying a bit more if those entry level, non-skilled employees could earn a living wage.  But, then I remember my wife and I are still paying off college loans and a lot of those non-skilled employees have better benefits than we do.
 
2013-11-16 08:48:20 PM  
I'm rather surprised that they're all in the retail industry.  During my one adventure into the retail world (1980-82), I felt kind of overpaid considering how little actual work I did.
 
2013-11-16 08:48:31 PM  
Couldn't give a direct link.
 
2013-11-16 08:49:35 PM  

joepainter: Walmart makes about $12,000 per year, per employee. I don't think that sounds outrageous.


If you made $12,000 per year working at Walmart, you might think otherwise.
 
2013-11-16 08:50:34 PM  

OgreMagi: What?  Star Bucks used to be one of the better places in retail because they paid better than most and included benefits.  When did that change?


It didn't, really. TFA is about companies that generally employ more low-wage workers than other companies - in other words, retail and customer service. The other thing all those companies have in common is ridiculously high turnover rate amongst those low level workers. People quit to get better jobs elsewhere all the time, so there's a constant fresh influx of new employees being paid the new employee rate.
 
2013-11-16 08:51:17 PM  
I shop at one of those places, Walmart.
 
2013-11-16 08:51:45 PM  
I can see why Sears is losing business, recently I had a credit card with them for a good 2 years now - I bought my wedding ring there thats why I even opened the card - I did buy some craftman tools and some odds and ends. Recently my credit card was stolen, I went online to report it and when I logged out I thought ok - they will send me a new card soon.

7 days later I had to pay my bill, I tried to log in and it wouldn't let me on, I call them to make a payment, I get sent to the Fraud Department - they tell me to wait and then hang up on me. I call back and the associate or whatever tells me they cannot allow me to do anything at this time because my account is under fraud protection.
So my new card comes in 2 days after my bill is due, I call and have it setup so I can go online, the associate tells me my payment was "late" I explained what happened and said specifically "I tried to make my damn payment and you hung up on me twice" $45 late fee.
I told her that's ok, Cancel my card. She said "But sir we can wipe out charge seeing how your card WAS stolen i.e someone did try to use it". I told her "Please wipe out the late fee, and cancel my card".

I get charged because they wouldn't let me pay my BILL? stupidly I should of kept the card, It looked great on my credit report, but there are hundreds of companies who want my business, not one who charges me and hangs up.
 
2013-11-16 08:51:49 PM  
I only regularly visit Starbucks, and that's because there are no other convenient coffee shops to my office.

The rest of those companies can just fark right off and die.
 
2013-11-16 08:52:11 PM  

Ambivalence: I was surprised to see Kroger there. My favorite grocery store is a Kroger store.


Kroger is huge and the one on that list where I spend the most.  I'm including all their stores that go by other names.  They're called King Soopers here.  Target and Wal-Mart were the only other 2 I ever go to.  I only buy groceries at all 3 places.

Target's selection of groceries sucks.  Wal-Mart just makes me feel dirty and their prices are not all that great anyway (except on a few items), but they're open 24 hours and are closer than King Soopers which is also open 24 hours.

The best time to go grocery shopping is about 4 AM.  You don't have to dodge fat-assed customers with their kids in tow and there's almost no traffic at that hour anyway.

I wouldn't shop anywhere except the liquor store except I would starve to death if I didn't go to those stores.
 
2013-11-16 08:52:17 PM  
What a bunch of leftist drivel. As if these people are being compelled to work low wages.

The worst thing that can happen to the poor is to take away their incentive to work hard and improve their lot.  The welfare state, particularly the minimum wage and subsidized housing, have done more harm to the poor than any 19th century robber barron ever dreamed of doing.

And Obamacare is about to take de-incentivizing work to a whole new level. Centralized planning never works.
 
2013-11-16 08:52:24 PM  
To be fair, starbucks also offers health insurance to all of their employees, full and part time ones. So, there's that.
 
2013-11-16 08:52:54 PM  

Archae hippy: I am very surprised at the low pay, tho.


I was more surprised by Kroger being the only (non-Wamart) grocery store. I might have to consider going to Safeway instead unless I found out there are like #12 on the list. Maybe the new Winco opening, although I hear the quality is low. I still can't stand Albertsons though.
 
2013-11-16 08:53:31 PM  
I'm still waiting for the event horizon where every pleb has quit WalMart in such a way they aren't welcome back. I think that happened to McDonalds in Dallas a decade ago because there ain't an english speaker in them.


As to the naysayer who would like to say "everywhere you go is operated by mexicans" well, YUM! Foods places around here are run by highschool and college students with the occasional adult, since they participate in that voluntary ICE program. In-N-Out is the same, and the whole kitchen is visible.

Also, if we reduced the low end worker population by a few million illegals corporations might have to compete for labor. It happened after the bubonic plague. Not advocating a plague, just keeping up the pressure on the self-deportation plot the left freaks out over. Oh, and a fairly thorough border-to-field migrant labor program with enough monitoring to ensure they actually make minimum wage without having to live in sub-human conditions.
 
2013-11-16 08:54:25 PM  

Gig103: 6. Sears Holdings

Ummm, I didn't think anyone shopped there anymore. I guess maybe for Craftsman stuff.


And appliances.

Sears and Kenmore and Craftsman are great names, they really can make it if they play their cards right.
 
2013-11-16 08:54:45 PM  
If you don't like it, find another job.....or
 
2013-11-16 08:56:28 PM  
Retail and fast food pay low wages? Who would have known?
 
2013-11-16 08:56:32 PM  
Imma keep going to Starbucks to remind myself that they deserve to be paid poorly. Worst employees evar
 
2013-11-16 08:57:50 PM  

Misconduc: I can see why Sears is losing business, recently I had a credit card with them for a good 2 years now - I bought my wedding ring there thats why I even opened the card - I did buy some craftman tools and some odds and ends. Recently my credit card was stolen, I went online to report it and when I logged out I thought ok - they will send me a new card soon.

7 days later I had to pay my bill, I tried to log in and it wouldn't let me on, I call them to make a payment, I get sent to the Fraud Department - they tell me to wait and then hang up on me. I call back and the associate or whatever tells me they cannot allow me to do anything at this time because my account is under fraud protection.
So my new card comes in 2 days after my bill is due, I call and have it setup so I can go online, the associate tells me my payment was "late" I explained what happened and said specifically "I tried to make my damn payment and you hung up on me twice" $45 late fee.
I told her that's ok, Cancel my card. She said "But sir we can wipe out charge seeing how your card WAS stolen i.e someone did try to use it". I told her "Please wipe out the late fee, and cancel my card".

I get charged because they wouldn't let me pay my BILL? stupidly I should of kept the card, It looked great on my credit report, but there are hundreds of companies who want my business, not one who charges me and hangs up.


Here's how to do it right.  I get a call from Chase.  Some unusual chargers were on my card and they wanted to know if I had made them.  Nope, someone had swiped the card number and was charging the hell out of it.  They immediately cancel my card.  We go through the list of recent charges and they credit me for the fraudulent ones.  Less than a week later a new card arrives in the mail.  At no time was my ability to review my account online disrupted.
 
2013-11-16 08:58:10 PM  
FTA: "McDonald's encourages employees to enroll in food stamps and welfare programs."

So the taxpayer subsidizes their workers incomes? What a sweet deal.
 
2013-11-16 08:59:16 PM  

wildcardjack: I'm still waiting for the event horizon where every pleb has quit WalMart in such a way they aren't welcome back. I think that happened to McDonalds in Dallas a decade ago because there ain't an english speaker in them.


As to the naysayer who would like to say "everywhere you go is operated by mexicans" well, YUM! Foods places around here are run by highschool and college students with the occasional adult, since they participate in that voluntary ICE program. In-N-Out is the same, and the whole kitchen is visible.

Also, if we reduced the low end worker population by a few million illegals corporations might have to compete for labor. It happened after the bubonic plague. Not advocating a plague, just keeping up the pressure on the self-deportation plot the left freaks out over. Oh, and a fairly thorough border-to-field migrant labor program with enough monitoring to ensure they actually make minimum wage without having to live in sub-human conditions.


these are excellent points. Get rid of the illegals and the price of labor will soar. But the republicans owe their banker buddies cheap workers and the democrats see new immigrants as their constituency. More of the same, screw the people who actually work and live here lawfully
 
2013-11-16 08:59:18 PM  
Golly, maybe Obama should do something about this outrage!
 
2013-11-16 08:59:20 PM  

Misconduc: I can see why Sears is losing business, recently I had a credit card with them for a good 2 years now - I bought my wedding ring there thats why I even opened the card - I did buy some craftman tools and some odds and ends. Recently my credit card was stolen, I went online to report it and when I logged out I thought ok - they will send me a new card soon.

7 days later I had to pay my bill, I tried to log in and it wouldn't let me on, I call them to make a payment, I get sent to the Fraud Department - they tell me to wait and then hang up on me. I call back and the associate or whatever tells me they cannot allow me to do anything at this time because my account is under fraud protection.
So my new card comes in 2 days after my bill is due, I call and have it setup so I can go online, the associate tells me my payment was "late" I explained what happened and said specifically "I tried to make my damn payment and you hung up on me twice" $45 late fee.
I told her that's ok, Cancel my card. She said "But sir we can wipe out charge seeing how your card WAS stolen i.e someone did try to use it". I told her "Please wipe out the late fee, and cancel my card".

I get charged because they wouldn't let me pay my BILL? stupidly I should of kept the card, It looked great on my credit report, but there are hundreds of companies who want my business, not one who charges me and hangs up.


Actually, compared to how I've been treated by some places, that's excellent customer service.  They offered to wipe out your late fees.  I know it was bullshiat that they even tried to impose them in the first place, but hangups and fighting the customer over every penny they can make you cough up as they kick you repeatedly in the balls is standard practice for a lot of retailers and banks.

But you did the right thing by cancelling.  losing business is the only thing they understand.
 
2013-11-16 09:01:31 PM  

nickdaisy: wildcardjack: I'm still waiting for the event horizon where every pleb has quit WalMart in such a way they aren't welcome back. I think that happened to McDonalds in Dallas a decade ago because there ain't an english speaker in them.


As to the naysayer who would like to say "everywhere you go is operated by mexicans" well, YUM! Foods places around here are run by highschool and college students with the occasional adult, since they participate in that voluntary ICE program. In-N-Out is the same, and the whole kitchen is visible.

Also, if we reduced the low end worker population by a few million illegals corporations might have to compete for labor. It happened after the bubonic plague. Not advocating a plague, just keeping up the pressure on the self-deportation plot the left freaks out over. Oh, and a fairly thorough border-to-field migrant labor program with enough monitoring to ensure they actually make minimum wage without having to live in sub-human conditions.

these are excellent points. Get rid of the illegals and the price of labor will soar. But the republicans owe their banker buddies cheap workers and the democrats see new immigrants as their constituency. More of the same, screw the people who actually work and live here lawfully


Investment banks don't hire very many illegal immigrants.
 
2013-11-16 09:02:26 PM  
So TFA is an article about somebody else's list of companies?  And hides said list behind clickbait?

Huffpo just made my list of Never Click, Ever, Because I Hate You And You're Not My Real Dad.
 
2013-11-16 09:02:31 PM  
The list is filled with fast food and retail jobs.

Those jobs require zero special training or skills, at least none that cannot be taught on the job in a couple of hours, so potential employees bring almost nothing to the table and they are compensated accordingly.
 
2013-11-16 09:02:41 PM  

skullkrusher: nickdaisy: wildcardjack: I'm still waiting for the event horizon where every pleb has quit WalMart in such a way they aren't welcome back. I think that happened to McDonalds in Dallas a decade ago because there ain't an english speaker in them.


As to the naysayer who would like to say "everywhere you go is operated by mexicans" well, YUM! Foods places around here are run by highschool and college students with the occasional adult, since they participate in that voluntary ICE program. In-N-Out is the same, and the whole kitchen is visible.

Also, if we reduced the low end worker population by a few million illegals corporations might have to compete for labor. It happened after the bubonic plague. Not advocating a plague, just keeping up the pressure on the self-deportation plot the left freaks out over. Oh, and a fairly thorough border-to-field migrant labor program with enough monitoring to ensure they actually make minimum wage without having to live in sub-human conditions.

these are excellent points. Get rid of the illegals and the price of labor will soar. But the republicans owe their banker buddies cheap workers and the democrats see new immigrants as their constituency. More of the same, screw the people who actually work and live here lawfully

Investment banks don't hire very many illegal immigrants.


no but one should be able to extrapolate that investment banks, by virtue of investments, benefit from lower costs
 
2013-11-16 09:02:49 PM  

nickdaisy: wildcardjack: I'm still waiting for the event horizon where every pleb has quit WalMart in such a way they aren't welcome back. I think that happened to McDonalds in Dallas a decade ago because there ain't an english speaker in them.


As to the naysayer who would like to say "everywhere you go is operated by mexicans" well, YUM! Foods places around here are run by highschool and college students with the occasional adult, since they participate in that voluntary ICE program. In-N-Out is the same, and the whole kitchen is visible.

Also, if we reduced the low end worker population by a few million illegals corporations might have to compete for labor. It happened after the bubonic plague. Not advocating a plague, just keeping up the pressure on the self-deportation plot the left freaks out over. Oh, and a fairly thorough border-to-field migrant labor program with enough monitoring to ensure they actually make minimum wage without having to live in sub-human conditions.

these are excellent points. Get rid of the illegals and the price of labor will soar. But the republicans owe their banker buddies cheap workers and the democrats see new immigrants as their constituency. More of the same, screw the people who actually work and live here lawfully


Depends on the type of job.  They ran off the illegals in some farming areas and the crops started to rot in the field because no one wanted those jobs.  And the pay was pretty good, except it was back breaking, tiring work.
 
2013-11-16 09:03:24 PM  
skinink:

Funny thing? I don't see any construction or mining companies on that list. You know, companies that dig ditches.
Therefore I conclude that ditch diggers get paid more than the people that work the lines in those companies.
 
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