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2013-11-16 11:31:28 AM
I don't often say this, but Maher is right.
 
2013-11-16 11:47:41 AM
"Throwing out preclearance when it has worked and is continuing to work to stop discriminatory changes is like throwing away your umbrella in a rainstorm because you are not getting wet." Link
 
2013-11-16 12:04:01 PM
I know it's too removed in time to make anybody feel better, but when Hillary gets to pack the court and they revisit those issues, some semblance of sanity will return. CJ Roberts is going to be one bitter, lonely dude.
 
2013-11-16 12:16:05 PM
ACTIVIST JUDGES ARE ONLY GOOD WHEN THEY DO THINGS I AGREE WITH
 
2013-11-16 12:56:03 PM

Stone Meadow: I know it's too removed in time to make anybody feel better, but when Hillary gets to pack the court and they revisit those issues, some semblance of sanity will return. CJ Roberts is going to be one bitter, lonely dude.


Justice William Jefferson Clinton. Book it. Done.
 
2013-11-16 01:04:22 PM

vygramul: Stone Meadow: I know it's too removed in time to make anybody feel better, but when Hillary gets to pack the court and they revisit those issues, some semblance of sanity will return. CJ Roberts is going to be one bitter, lonely dude.

Justice William Jefferson Clinton. Book it. Done.


Our first Muslim-Kenyan-American maybe, but not Bubba. He got disbarred...
 
2013-11-16 01:05:37 PM

vygramul: Stone Meadow: I know it's too removed in time to make anybody feel better, but when Hillary gets to pack the court and they revisit those issues, some semblance of sanity will return. CJ Roberts is going to be one bitter, lonely dude.

Justice William Jefferson Clinton. Book it. Done.


Didn't he get disbarred?

Not that I think he'd be a bad pick, I'd just like to watch the infinite posting of scanners.gif on Freep.
 
2013-11-16 01:16:49 PM

Irving Maimway: vygramul: Stone Meadow: I know it's too removed in time to make anybody feel better, but when Hillary gets to pack the court and they revisit those issues, some semblance of sanity will return. CJ Roberts is going to be one bitter, lonely dude.

Justice William Jefferson Clinton. Book it. Done.

Didn't he get disbarred?

Not that I think he'd be a bad pick, I'd just like to watch the infinite posting of scanners.gif on Freep.


Actually...not really. In 2001 he paid a $25,000 fine and accepted a 5-year suspension to avoid disbarment from the Arkansas Bar, and resigned his SCOTUS Bar membership rather than face disbarment from the Supreme Court. So no, he was never formally disbarred. Joking aside, he'd face a hell of an uphill battle to join SCOTUS, even presuming Hillary was so tone-deaf as to nominate him.  Besides, he'd too old by modern standards of the court.

President Obama, on the other hand...
 
2013-11-16 01:26:45 PM
Are there qualifications to be a Justice? Do you have to be a lawyer or attend law school to be a Supreme Court Justice?
The Constitution does not specify qualifications for Justices such as age, education, profession, or native-born citizenship. A Justice does not have to be a lawyer or a law school graduate, but all Justices have been trained in the law. Many of the 18th and 19th century Justices studied law under a mentor because there were few law schools in the country.

The last Justice to be appointed who did not attend any law school was James F. Byrnes (1941-1942). He did not graduate from high school and taught himself law, passing the bar at the age of 23.
Robert H. Jackson (1941-1954). While Jackson did not attend an undergraduate college, he did study law at Albany Law School in New York. At the time of his graduation, Jackson was only twenty years old and one of the requirements for a law degree was that students must be twenty-one years old. Thus rather than a law degree, Jackson was awarded with a "diploma of graduation." Twenty-nine years later, Albany Law School belatedly presented Jackson with a law degree noting his original graduating class of 1912.


Says nothing of having to be a member of any bar, or even trained in law (yes, all have been, but not because they were required to be)
 
2013-11-16 01:47:02 PM

Stone Meadow: Irving Maimway: vygramul: Stone Meadow: I know it's too removed in time to make anybody feel better, but when Hillary gets to pack the court and they revisit those issues, some semblance of sanity will return. CJ Roberts is going to be one bitter, lonely dude.

Justice William Jefferson Clinton. Book it. Done.

Didn't he get disbarred?

Not that I think he'd be a bad pick, I'd just like to watch the infinite posting of scanners.gif on Freep.

Actually...not really. In 2001 he paid a $25,000 fine and accepted a 5-year suspension to avoid disbarment from the Arkansas Bar, and resigned his SCOTUS Bar membership rather than face disbarment from the Supreme Court. So no, he was never formally disbarred. Joking aside, he'd face a hell of an uphill battle to join SCOTUS, even presuming Hillary was so tone-deaf as to nominate him.  Besides, he'd too old by modern standards of the court.

President Obama, on the other hand...


There is no requirement a Supreme Court Justice even be a lawyer.
 
2013-11-16 01:57:58 PM

vygramul: Stone Meadow: President Obama, on the other hand...

There is no requirement a Supreme Court Justice even be a lawyer.


True enough, but beside the point. Virtually all SC Justices have been lawyers, and for most of the past century all SCOTUS nominees have been vetted by the ABA and/or other major bars. Besides, my point was that as a hypothetical SCOTUS nominee, President Obama suffers from none of the skeletons that former President Clinton would. We're just having fun here... :)
 
2013-11-16 02:53:37 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

Still waiting for her turn ...
 
2013-11-16 03:17:41 PM
Why does anyone listen to this waste of sperm, oxogyn stealing piece of garbage. He was a farking comic, now he is just a piece of shiat.
 
2013-11-16 03:19:35 PM
The funny thing about this is that the GOP's long-term strategy has been working.  The problem for them is that the perceived persecution they've fomented amongst their base has become an albatross around their neck.

I dare say victims of their own success...hoisted upon their own retards.
 
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2013-11-16 03:26:51 PM

Stone Meadow: vygramul: Stone Meadow: I know it's too removed in time to make anybody feel better, but when Hillary gets to pack the court and they revisit those issues, some semblance of sanity will return. CJ Roberts is going to be one bitter, lonely dude.

Justice William Jefferson Clinton. Book it. Done.

Our first Muslim-Kenyan-American maybe, but not Bubba. He got disbarred...


So?  You don't have to be a lawyer to be a SC justice.
 
2013-11-16 03:55:54 PM

Sofa_king_kewl: Why does anyone listen to this waste of sperm, oxogyn stealing piece of garbage. He was a farking comic, now he is just a piece of shiat.


That happens to comics sometimes, when either smug or anger replaces humor. What I don't get about Maher's show is why does he have guests when he never shuts the f*ck up?
 
2013-11-16 04:12:33 PM

simplicimus: Sofa_king_kewl: Why does anyone listen to this waste of sperm, oxogyn stealing piece of garbage. He was a farking comic, now he is just a piece of shiat.

That happens to comics sometimes, when either smug or anger replaces humor. What I don't get about Maher's show is why does he have guests when he never shuts the f*ck up?


Me too
 
2013-11-16 04:59:32 PM
Scalia literally believes in the existence of Satan.

Yes, not only does a grown-ass man believe in monsters, but he ended up on the Supreme Court.
 
2013-11-16 05:00:48 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: ACTIVIST JUDGES ARE ONLY GOOD WHEN THEY DO THINGS I AGREE WITH


EAT EVERY DICK

 
2013-11-16 05:05:03 PM

vygramul: I don't often say this, but Maher is right.


Agreed. He may be a pompous, unfunny douche with the most punchable face this side of Kanye West, but he is right.
 
2013-11-16 05:05:41 PM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Doktor_Zhivago: ACTIVIST JUDGES ARE ONLY GOOD WHEN THEY DO THINGS I AGREE WITH

EAT EVERY DICK


Maher couldn't slam a door. The dude is a joke.

Lets have a thread about his opinions on vaccination
 
2013-11-16 05:07:43 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: ACTIVIST JUDGES ARE ONLY GOOD WHEN THEY DO THINGS I AGREE WITH


Of all the troll species, the weekend troll is the most pathetic.
 
2013-11-16 05:08:41 PM

Wooly Bully: Doktor_Zhivago: ACTIVIST JUDGES ARE ONLY GOOD WHEN THEY DO THINGS I AGREE WITH

Of all the troll species, the weekend troll is the most pathetic.


To be fair I didn't think an article this stupid would go green
 
2013-11-16 05:09:11 PM

Sofa_king_kewl: Why does anyone listen to this waste of sperm, oxogyn stealing piece of garbage. He was a farking comic, now he is just a piece of shiat.


I don't think he was ever a comic. He would have had to be funny to be a comic and he's never been funny.
 
2013-11-16 05:18:38 PM
www.robertopaternostro.com
 
2013-11-16 05:20:07 PM
Maher is the epitome of "your not helping".
 
2013-11-16 05:20:24 PM

BalugaJoe: [www.robertopaternostro.com image 282x397]


Thanks to "search Google for this image," it is impossible to be obscure.
 
2013-11-16 05:22:42 PM
Robert's led SCOTUS effed up in the CU decision and in gutting key parts of the VRA?

Cos the things the dissenting opinions warned were gonna happen that the prevailing opinions assured would not happen happened?

To be fair things seemed to be going pretty good for about 48 hours there so they weren't completely wrong.
 
2013-11-16 05:26:14 PM
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Which_US_Supreme_Court_Justices_were_not_la w yers

Although not required by the Constitution, all 112 members of the US Supreme Court have been lawyers, although not all attended or graduated law school. In the 18th and 19th centuries, the United States had few law schools, so a person who wanted to become a lawyer would read about the law and then apprentice under a practicing attorney.

I'd have guessed William Howard Taft wasn't a lawyer - he was appointed to the Supreme Court after serving as President - but I would have been wrong. WHT had a law degree and even was a judge early in his career. So ... if nothing else, I learned something today...

upload.wikimedia.org

(USSC justices portrait -- Taft is in the center of the bottom row)
 
2013-11-16 05:26:53 PM
I like Maher for his edginess ... and I generally agree with his stances.

However ... if you're going to criticize the SCOTUS for being wrong, you might want to get your quote from Animal House correct. It wasn't John Belushi, it was Tim Matheson. And the real quote was "You farked up ... you trusted us."
 
2013-11-16 05:39:21 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: omnibus_necanda_sunt: Doktor_Zhivago: ACTIVIST JUDGES ARE ONLY GOOD WHEN THEY DO THINGS I AGREE WITH

EAT EVERY DICK

Maher couldn't slam a door. The dude is a joke.

Lets have a thread about his opinions on vaccination


And as we all know, having one stupid opinion automatically invalidates all other opinions held by that same person.
 
2013-11-16 05:51:02 PM

Teufelaffe: And as we all know, having one stupid opinion automatically invalidates all other opinions held by that same person.


No but it makes me not give a shiat about his opinions.

Yeah citizen's united and the voting rights act decision were fark ups,  but the same court upheld also upheld the ACA and gay marriage and everyone on fark was praising what moderate and thoughtful decisions Roberts made.

I don't need  Bill Maher pontificating at me to make an opinion.  If this was a thread about Rush Limbaugh biatching about the court then everyone would be posting grumpy cat 'good' pics.  But he's coming out against obviously terrible decisions that have been gone over much more thoroughly in other news outlets by people who actually have credibility so lets throw a parade and greenlit a thread for some reason.

He's an antivax retard and I hope he dies of whooping cough.
 
2013-11-16 05:51:08 PM
Let the butthurt flow, Bill.
 
2013-11-16 05:51:38 PM

Sofa_king_kewl: Why does anyone listen to this waste of sperm, oxogyn stealing piece of garbage. He was a farking comic, now he is just a piece of shiat.


There's the fark Maher hate I am used to.

Do you hold the same contempt for miller?
 
2013-11-16 05:54:21 PM
The whole thing, Maher said, speaks to conservatives' lamentable naiveté

Nothing naive about it. They knew exactly what they were doing with both those rulings.
 
2013-11-16 05:57:01 PM

Sofa_king_kewl: simplicimus: Sofa_king_kewl: Why does anyone listen to this waste of sperm, oxogyn stealing piece of garbage. He was a farking comic, now he is just a piece of shiat.

That happens to comics sometimes, when either smug or anger replaces humor. What I don't get about Maher's show is why does he have guests when he never shuts the f*ck up?

Me too


I'm no fan of Bill Maher's.  He seems to get pissed when the audience doesn't laugh as hard as he'd like, he still refers to Tea Partiers and "Teabaggers" (seriously, comics generally hate telling the same joke for years on end), and he won't shut the hell up about how much pot he smokes.

That being said, is he wrong?  This was like when a GOP Congress removed the FCC rule limiting the number of stations a computer can own in a single market, saying that it was outdated and unnecessary.  The bigger companies promptly crushed the smaller companies that couldn't afford to compete and studies showed that, except for the big communications companies, repealing that rule benefited absolutely NO ONE.

This case, and the two cited in Maher's rant, could easily lead one to the conclusion that when they say "It's outdated and we trust big companies and our other allies not to be abusive", they KNOW they're wrong.  And that this particular level of wrong continues to damage this country.
 
2013-11-16 05:59:49 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: Teufelaffe: And as we all know, having one stupid opinion automatically invalidates all other opinions held by that same person.

No but it makes me not give a shiat about his opinions.

Yeah citizen's united and the voting rights act decision were fark ups,  but the same court upheld also upheld the ACA and gay marriage and everyone on fark was praising what moderate and thoughtful decisions Roberts made.

I don't need  Bill Maher pontificating at me to make an opinion.  If this was a thread about Rush Limbaugh biatching about the court then everyone would be posting grumpy cat 'good' pics.  But he's coming out against obviously terrible decisions that have been gone over much more thoroughly in other news outlets by people who actually have credibility so lets throw a parade and greenlit a thread for some reason.

He's an antivax retard and I hope he dies of whooping cough.


Except he's not an anti vaxxer.
 
2013-11-16 06:02:15 PM

fusillade762: The whole thing, Maher said, speaks to conservatives' lamentable naiveté

Nothing naive about it. They knew exactly what they were doing with both those rulings.


I'm afraid you are correct. But that doesn't detract from the disingenuousness of the SCOTUS majority in their written opinion, and their weak attempt to justify it.

BTW ... "disingenuous" is a polite way to say "lying."
 
2013-11-16 06:03:27 PM
If he's actually not anti vaccination then I retract my previous comments
 
2013-11-16 06:09:18 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: If he's actually not anti vaccination then I retract my previous comments


I may be wrong, but I think the only "anti-vax" thing he has said was that he thought flu shots were stupid for healthy people.  Agree or disagree with that point, but I don't think that puts him anywhere near Jenny McCarthy.
 
2013-11-16 06:11:23 PM

tripleseven: Doktor_Zhivago: Teufelaffe: And as we all know, having one stupid opinion automatically invalidates all other opinions held by that same person.

No but it makes me not give a shiat about his opinions.

Yeah citizen's united and the voting rights act decision were fark ups,  but the same court upheld also upheld the ACA and gay marriage and everyone on fark was praising what moderate and thoughtful decisions Roberts made.

I don't need  Bill Maher pontificating at me to make an opinion.  If this was a thread about Rush Limbaugh biatching about the court then everyone would be posting grumpy cat 'good' pics.  But he's coming out against obviously terrible decisions that have been gone over much more thoroughly in other news outlets by people who actually have credibility so lets throw a parade and greenlit a thread for some reason.

He's an antivax retard and I hope he dies of whooping cough.

Except he's not an anti vaxxer.


"Why would you let them be the ones to stick a disease into your arm? I would never get a swine flu vaccine or any vaccine. I don't trust the government, especially with my health."

"I'm not a germ theory denier. I believe vaccinations can work. Polio is a good example. Do I think in certain situations that inoculating Third World children against malaria or diphtheria, or whatever, is right? Of course. In a situation like that, the benefits outweigh costs. But to me living in Los Angeles? To get a flu shot? No."

"If u get a swine flu shot ur an idiot."

"I cannot believe that a perfectly healthy person died of this swine flu. That person was not perfectly healthy."

So, he appears to believe that "perfectly healthy" people can't get sick and therefore don't need vaccines. So, I guess you could say that he's technically not an anti-vaxxer since he's not pushing the "vaccines cause <insert disorder here>", but his views on vaccines and healthy people are pretty farking stupid.
 
2013-11-16 06:12:59 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: Teufelaffe: And as we all know, having one stupid opinion automatically invalidates all other opinions held by that same person.

No but it makes me not give a shiat about his opinions.

Yeah citizen's united and the voting rights act decision were fark ups,  but the same court upheld also upheld the ACA and gay marriage and everyone on fark was praising what moderate and thoughtful decisions Roberts made.

I don't need  Bill Maher pontificating at me to make an opinion.  If this was a thread about Rush Limbaugh biatching about the court then everyone would be posting grumpy cat 'good' pics.  But he's coming out against obviously terrible decisions that have been gone over much more thoroughly in other news outlets by people who actually have credibility so lets throw a parade and greenlit a thread for some reason.

He's an antivax retard and I hope he dies of whooping cough.


Funny how quickly people turn on someone when it is in disagreement with something they want or like!   As you said, Justice Roberts could do no wrong with the liberal crowd (Maher included) when he voted in favor of agenda's the support and approve of (the ACA and gay marraige). I could not agree with you more about Maher.  He is nothing more than a wannabe washed-up comedian who has a "talk" show where he skewer's anyone and everyone who doesn't agree with his way of thinking.  He is the liberals version of Limbaugh and Savage (also idiot's, both).  He makes a ton of money also, fairly rich I would say, all by supporting the "champions" of the poor...the liberal democrat's....
 
2013-11-16 06:15:38 PM
I have a new rule of my own:  New Rule:  In order to comment about the law and Supreme Court opinions, one should be a lawyer.
 
2013-11-16 06:16:14 PM

Ashtro1969: He is nothing more than a wannabe washed-up comedian who has a "talk" show where he skewer's anyone and everyone who doesn't agree with his way of thinking.  He is the liberals version of Limbaugh and Savage (also idiot's, both).


He does regularly have conservatives on his show (two last night) to converse with them face-to-face, as opposed to hiding behind a radio mic. Not quite the same thing.
 
2013-11-16 06:17:57 PM
I haven't ever had a flu shot ... and I haven't had the flu for at least 7 years. And I'm supposedly in the "at risk" category (63 years old).

Fact is ... the flu virus changes every year ... and the flu vaccine is almost always at least a year behind.
 
2013-11-16 06:22:04 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: He does regularly have conservatives on his show (two last night) to converse with them face-to-face, as opposed to hiding behind a radio mic. Not quite the same thing.


Absolutely this.  I can see how Maher would come off as arrogant and abrasive to some, especially if you don't agree with his ideology.  When someone compares him to Limbaugh I know that either 1) they have never actually watched his show and just heard his "worst" soundbytes, 2) are so hopelessly deluded that they actually believe what they're saying, 3) are lying to further their point, or 4) some combination of the three.

Again, you can disagree with, dislike, even hate him all you want, but saying he never lets other people talk is just plain false.
 
2013-11-16 06:22:39 PM
I don't seem to see anyone here who's bashing him saying that he's wrong.Is he wrong about the outcomes of those two decisions?
 
2013-11-16 06:25:14 PM

Cuchulane: I don't seem to see anyone here who's bashing him saying that he's wrong.Is he wrong about the outcomes of those two decisions?


Nope.
 
2013-11-16 06:33:32 PM

sprgrss: I have a new rule of my own:  New Rule:  In order to comment about the law and Supreme Court opinions, one should be a lawyer.

wearing a flowing black robe.

And nothing else.
 
2013-11-16 06:39:54 PM
Bill Maher slammed the U.S. Supreme Court - and in particular Chief Justice John Roberts - for pretending that decisions like the Citizens United ruling and gutting the Voting Rights Act (VRA) won't have any consequences.

I'm sorry, when did they say that? Of course they knew they would have consequences--as the opposite rulings would have. We've already seen the consequences of the Citizens United ruling--the Republicans got their asses handed to them last election when the Democrats were able to have sekrit funding sources just like the Republicans. And had they ruled the way everyone seems to have wanted them to rule on CU, then the Republicans could have successfully used it to prevent organizations like Greenpeace and the Sierra Club from endorsing Obama. Is that a consequence you would have preferred?
 
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