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(Time)   Candy flavored tobacco products are on the rise. Perfect for when your child can't decide if he's in the mood for a Snickers or a Marlboro   (healthland.time.com) divider line 16
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2013-11-16 06:36:30 AM  
Cue crybaby anti-smokers.

/fat farks should be a clickable on the Obamacare site
//same as drug addicts, alcoholics, and whores
 
2013-11-16 07:03:57 AM  
kids smoke in hs... thats where i started. if i had a kid i would sure as hell want them smoking an ecig if it meant they weren't smoking regular smokes.
 
2013-11-16 07:19:59 AM  
Worked at a gas station when flavored e-cigs started coming out. Easily the most popular among potheads.
 
2013-11-16 07:26:51 AM  
HA! They banned flavored cigarettes because they were too delicious (except menthol) and now look what happens.

/bring back cloves!
 
2013-11-16 08:15:14 AM  
Because the only thing preventing a huge explosion of teen smoking is... the taste. Riiiight

/nonsmoker
//Finds tobacco smoke repulsive
///Finds nanny state laws solely designed to look good to under informed voters even more repulsive
 
2013-11-16 08:40:31 AM  
From The Wall Street Journal (Oh, forget the link then. I forgot WSJ likes unfetchable links. Maybe they'll enjoy fewer people clicking their stupid articles)



10 Things E-Cigarettes Won't Tell You
1 "We're Big Tobacco in disguise."

Big tobacco has jumped on the bandwagon. Who cares? They're not the only people selling them

2 "We can't promise this won't kill you."
Only rabid e-cig enthusiasts claim they're totally safe

3 "This probably isn't the best way to quit smoking."
Works for some people. Others aren't even trying to quit

4 "We're advertising like it's 1960-while we still can."
I haven't seen Fred Flintsone endorsing them yet.

5 "We defy categorization."
Didn't bother reading their paragraph on this

6 "We're cheaper than cigarettes because we aren't taxed like cigarettes."
No, it's not just that. Even if you subtract the taxes from cigarettes, they're still cheaper. But who cares anyway?

8 "We're bringing smoking back indoors..."
Good

9 "...and back into aircraft."
Good

10 "E-joints and e-crackpipes are the new e-cig."
Dr. Fiore cites reports that e-cigs could be used to consume crack cocaine.


lolwut?
 
2013-11-16 09:57:08 AM  
ECigarettes are not tobacco products. There is zero tobacco in them.
 
2013-11-16 10:22:16 AM  

sendtodave: ECigarettes are not tobacco products. There is zero tobacco in them.


Yeah, I''m sure all the nicotine comes from non-tobacco sources.
 
2013-11-16 10:51:34 AM  

gfid: sendtodave: ECigarettes are not tobacco products. There is zero tobacco in them.

Yeah, I''m sure all the nicotine comes from non-tobacco sources.


Oh, we'll then, if nicotine comes from tobacco, it must still be tobacco!

Really? That's your logic?
 
2013-11-16 10:52:53 AM  
This is such an outrage because no adult would ever want fruit or candy flavors? When my mom made the switch to vaping, I was 100% in support of it after seeing her fail again and again at kicking the habit. I know she likes the cherry flavor because she accidentally left her e-juice in my car after I gave her a ride to the airport once. I've seen a huge explosion in vape shops around here, and whenever I see them all I can think about is how much less disgusting tobacco smoke odor I will have to deal with in public spaces.
 
2013-11-16 11:05:22 AM  

sendtodave: gfid: sendtodave: ECigarettes are not tobacco products. There is zero tobacco in them.

Yeah, I''m sure all the nicotine comes from non-tobacco sources.

Oh, we'll then, if nicotine comes from tobacco, it must still be tobacco!

Really? That's your logic?


Don't get so defensive.  I'm not calling it a tobacco product, but I think it's interesting that you're so quick to deny any connection.

I'd hazard a guess that most e-cig users were at one time tobacco users (and many still are).  It's a substitute for tobacco for most of us.  What really scares the anti-vapors is that people who don't use nicotine will start using e-cigs and develop a taste (i.e. addiction) for nicotine.

And no, you don't have to tell me that you can get e-liquid with no nicotine, but really do you think that's a significant portion of the market?
 
2013-11-16 11:07:56 AM  
E-cigs are not tobacco products. Just because ONE ingredient is the same as ONE ingredient in tobacco, that means it's tobacco? So children can't drink orange juice because ONE ingredient is the same as in a Mimosa?

The targeting of e-cigs as the same as smoking is absolutely insane.
 
2013-11-16 11:13:40 AM  

gfid: sendtodave: gfid: sendtodave: ECigarettes are not tobacco products. There is zero tobacco in them.

Yeah, I''m sure all the nicotine comes from non-tobacco sources.

Oh, we'll then, if nicotine comes from tobacco, it must still be tobacco!

Really? That's your logic?

Don't get so defensive.  I'm not calling it a tobacco product, but I think it's interesting that you're so quick to deny any connection.

I'd hazard a guess that most e-cig users were at one time tobacco users (and many still are).  It's a substitute for tobacco for most of us.  What really scares the anti-vapors is that people who don't use nicotine will start using e-cigs and develop a taste (i.e. addiction) for nicotine.

And no, you don't have to tell me that you can get e-liquid with no nicotine, but really do you think that's a significant portion of the market?


So, uh, you agree with me? They are not tobacco products? Why did you initially insinuate otherwise?

The reason the designation is a big deal is because if they are classified as "tobacco products," they can be regulated as if they are the same regular, cancerous tobacco cigarettes.

When they aren't.
 
2013-11-16 11:15:58 AM  

gfid: sendtodave: gfid: sendtodave: ECigarettes are not tobacco products. There is zero tobacco in them.

Yeah, I''m sure all the nicotine comes from non-tobacco sources.

Oh, we'll then, if nicotine comes from tobacco, it must still be tobacco!

Really? That's your logic?

Don't get so defensive.  I'm not calling it a tobacco product, but I think it's interesting that you're so quick to deny any connection.

I'd hazard a guess that most e-cig users were at one time tobacco users (and many still are).  It's a substitute for tobacco for most of us.  What really scares the anti-vapors is that people who don't use nicotine will start using e-cigs and develop a taste (i.e. addiction) for nicotine.

And no, you don't have to tell me that you can get e-liquid with no nicotine, but really do you think that's a significant portion of the market?


Oh, sorry.

To the second part: what's wrong with an addiction to nicotine, if there aren't adverse health affects?

Plenty of people are addicted to caffeine, another mild stimulant, and no one thinks that's a problem...
 
2013-11-16 11:49:08 AM  

silvervial: E-cigs are not tobacco products. Just because ONE ingredient is the same as ONE ingredient in tobacco, that means it's tobacco? So children can't drink orange juice because ONE ingredient is the same as in a Mimosa?

The targeting of e-cigs as the same as smoking is absolutely insane.


Orange juice comes from Mimosas?

OTOH, plastic is considered a petroleum product although it is clearly not petroleum.

sendtodave: To the second part: what's wrong with an addiction to nicotine, if there aren't adverse health affects?

Plenty of people are addicted to caffeine, another mild stimulant, and no one thinks that's a problem.


Well, just speaking for myself, addiction to caffeine and nicotine are very different.  Nicotine is something I consume all day long.  Caffeine is an addiction I was able to overcome without even really trying and that I now consume every once in a while.  YMMV, but I dislike the constant need for it and I believe there are health risks to vaping.

There aren't many studies, but one I read about a while back did find some risks.

I also think restrictions on tobacco are too restrictive, but some of them are reasonable.  I'm certainly not in favor of letting those under 18 buy them.
 
2013-11-16 01:00:32 PM  
You fark libs do realize that a tax on cigs is basically a tax on the poor and lower class right? And if you are not wealthy it sure as hell might put you there.

Best thing that every happened was me getting carded for nicotine gum. I decided I wanted to quit, which failed. But I looked at the lady and said "So if I was a 17 year old smoker and wanted to quit you would not provide me the tools to do so?" It was probably an ass thing to say. She was just some poor clerk who was carding because the register told her to, but the point is valid.

Common sense has gone to hell when it comes to addictive products, and so has private property rights.

Slutter McGee
 
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