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(AsiaOne)   Concert pianist may be jailed after the neighbor in the apartment below her called police to say her rehearsals are too loud. Will this black on white crime ever end?   (news.asiaone.com) divider line 31
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2013-11-16 07:18:24 AM  
Something something penis something something.

AMIRITE?!
 
2013-11-16 07:23:28 AM  
Oh great, a penis thread.
 
2013-11-16 07:27:10 AM  
No so long as white people have rims on their cars.
 
2013-11-16 07:28:36 AM  
Repeat!
 
2013-11-16 07:28:49 AM  
old repeat is old
 
2013-11-16 07:30:24 AM  
Can't quite remember the complaining neighbor's name.

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2013-11-16 07:31:03 AM  
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/wanted for questioning
 
2013-11-16 07:31:57 AM  
Anyone who immediately thought of Gregory Hines & Mikhail Baryshnikov, or who heard the dulcet tones of "Ebony and Ivory," step forward and claim your "Child of the 80s" card.
 
2013-11-16 07:41:46 AM  

BitwiseShift: Can't quite remember the complaining neighbor's name.


Mulva. Pretty sure.
 
2013-11-16 08:02:07 AM  
Went out on you tube and found several clips of her performing.  She's not bad at all.  The neighbor in the article reminds me of when I was in college and a neighbor was pianist.  Another neighbor would blast heavy metal music all hours of the day and night and expect that everyone should love it.  But let the pianist friend practice the slow movement of a Beethoven Sonata and the idiot would go berserk calling police and banging on the walls to get her to stop.  Apparently something that required a thought process to perform offended him.
 
2013-11-16 08:02:29 AM  
static.musiciansfriend.com problem solved.
 
2013-11-16 08:04:49 AM  
"Years of suffering"? Was she playing rap? Speed metal? Oriental multi-tone weird stuff?  I'm not getting how piano music is psychologically damaging.

The proposed penalties are ridiculous. Prison time for a noise violation? Banned from working?
 
2013-11-16 08:12:55 AM  
Wasn't there a Tom Hanks movie where he practiced the piano silently?
 
2013-11-16 08:17:18 AM  
What time of day was she playing?  Between 11pm and 9am I would call the cops too.  I hate inconsiderate people.  Reminds me I still need to find out who to call about my dbag neighbor kid drives back and forth multiple times a day with his disconnected muffler on his car because it's "cool".
 
2013-11-16 08:18:22 AM  
Piano? Is that one of those quaint, pre-digital instruments they used to use before everybody was an aspiring rapper/celebrity?
 
2013-11-16 08:23:40 AM  
What kind of animal plays a piano in an apartment complex?
 
2013-11-16 08:28:38 AM  

The_Original_Roxtar: [static.musiciansfriend.com image 700x467] problem solved.


What I thought.
 
2013-11-16 08:30:38 AM  
Practicing 8 hours a day?! Piano requires way too much work. She should try bagpipes, because nobody can tell if you've ever practiced or not.
 
2013-11-16 08:41:56 AM  
When I first moved here from Scotland, me da called me up and asked how I was doing in the USA.
"Where I live it's dead noisy," I told him.  "The neighbor below banging on the ceiling, the neighbor above banging on the floor, the neighbors to the sides banging on the wall.  But I pay them all no mind and keep on practicing me bagpipes."
 
2013-11-16 08:48:54 AM  
I'd like everyone to stop for a moment and consider why we live in a world where something as trivial as this ends in jail time.

/Humanity is farked.
 
2013-11-16 08:49:54 AM  
I recall a similar case back in the 40s. Didn't end well for the musician, I'm afraid.
 
2013-11-16 09:04:48 AM  
I've got a 6'7" grand piano in my living room, but it also has a head phone jack (Dang clever these guys at Yamaha).
 
2013-11-16 09:21:11 AM  
If she's playing Chopin, bite me; if she's playing Chopsticks or Heart and Soul - game on.
 
2013-11-16 09:22:24 AM  

Esroc: I'd like everyone to stop for a moment and consider why we live in a world where something as trivial as this ends in jail time.

/Humanity is farked.


It only seems trivial if you aren't exposed to it.

I grew up in the suburbs and I would have called it trivial too.  But now I live in a crappy apartment and spent the better part of a year fighting with the neighbor next door.  Nice enough guy honestly, in different circumstances we could have been drinking buddies.  He's unemployed (not a value judgement, just implying the guy has nothing but free-time).  From what I can gather, he spends all day, every day, playing Xbox 360 games (which I think is great.  I love video games).

The problem?  He plays them connected to a surround sound system.  Including a subwoofer.

The volume isn't even excessive, but I'd wake up for work at 6am and hear the guy playing.  I'd come home from work at 6pm and hear the guy playing.  I'd go to bed at night and he'd still be playing.

When I lay in bed, the subwoofer is no more than 3 feet from my head.  It's literally on the other side of the wall.  The apartment is tiny though, so it's audible *everywhere* in my apartment, but loudest in the bedroom.  Even after trying several different types of earplugs (again, low frequencies are notoriously difficult to block out), it's entirely audible to me.

In this particular case, he wasn't violating any noise laws though - from the street it's perfectly quiet.

Extended exposures to stimuli like that can have a HUGE, dramatic impact on someone's quality of life.  I know it sounds ridiculous, but something as trivial as a drop of water continuously hitting someone in the forehead is enough to be considered torture (and it's one of the most notoriously known methods).
 
2013-11-16 09:31:46 AM  
The linked article is pretty short on details.

First - the volume of the piano was measured at 40 decibels (presumably taken in the  Plaintiff'shome).  That's not 'loud' but it would very much audible for the family and it is twice as loud as permitted by law.

Second - it's not a single complaint.  The plaintiff notified them and the authorities many times.  And they were 100% in the right.  Authorities instructed the defendant to comply with the law, many times.

Third - the defendant's parents claim that they underwent procedures to sound-proof the piano room twice.  And yet, after that, the piano was measured at 40 decibels (if I'm understanding this correctly).  Which implies either 1.)  The soundproofing sucked, which I believe, a lot of people think soundproofing means hanging some blankets on the walls or 2.)  It was louder before.

Fourth - in Spain, a sentence of less than two years (as retarded as this sounds) almost certainly results in zero jail-time for first-time offenders.
 
2013-11-16 09:36:07 AM  

armor helix: What kind of animal plays a piano in an apartment complex?


The louder they are, the less likely they are to hear anyone else.  Ergo, they assume nobody can hear them.  And when people complain, well, those people are just overly sensitive....it is an apartment after all.  Besides the piano isn't even that loud!

Plus, deep down, I think everyone who plays an instrument loudly has some fantasy where all these people will hear it and be like, 'Whoa - who is playing that awesome piano?  It's so beautiful!'
 
2013-11-16 09:39:32 AM  
I was sure that was going to be an Onion article...
 
2013-11-16 09:51:18 AM  

Uisce Beatha: Anyone who immediately thought of Gregory Hines & Mikhail Baryshnikov, or who heard the dulcet tones of "Ebony and Ivolry," step forward and claim your "Child of the 80s" card.


Nice.  Though thanks to having parents who took a while to get into the 80s swing of things, I have a lot of 70s going on too, even though I was 3 when they ended.
 
2013-11-16 10:04:09 AM  
I still want to know who was living there first. Little miss "psychological damage" should STFU, stop whining, and get a new place. It's not like the white trash neighbors I used to live upstairs from, she's a legit professional who needs to practice.

Small incidental csb: Said white trash neighbors decided to party extremely loudly on the shared front porch until 4:30am, when I had to be at work by seven. As people who're not complete assbags should know better, I furiously played Kid Rock and Orgy while I got ready for work. They never pulled those sort of shenanigans again in the further two-odd years I lived above them. I think Orgy violates the Geneva Convention when played loudly to hungover people.
 
2013-11-16 10:04:54 AM  
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/is on the case
 
2013-11-17 07:30:17 AM  

edmo: "Years of suffering"? Was she playing rap? Speed metal? Oriental multi-tone weird stuff?  I'm not getting how piano music is psychologically damaging.

The proposed penalties are ridiculous. Prison time for a noise violation? Banned from working?


Esroc: I'd like everyone to stop for a moment and consider why we live in a world where something as trivial as this ends in jail time.

/Humanity is farked.


Hi! Welcome to Spain! The country where you're more likely to be jailed for complaining that your bag was stolen than for stealing it.

Most likely, at no point in this entire trial, did anyone ask the neighbor if they just asked the lady to keep it down at such and such times.
 
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