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2013-11-16 12:58:32 AM
Republicans.

That's the joke horror.
 
2013-11-16 01:00:09 AM
I can understand Ken Starr's position.  All Conservatives are child molesters, most of them have not confessed yet.
 
2013-11-16 01:00:19 AM
Being an attorney means you represent your client, so I have no problem with Starr doing this. It is ugly but it is the way the system works.
 
2013-11-16 01:00:44 AM
In Ken Starr's defense, he is a two-faced piece of shiat.
 
2013-11-16 01:01:42 AM

red5ish: Being an attorney means you represent your client, so I have no problem with Starr doing this. It is ugly but it is the way the system works.


He's not the guy's attorney, he's a character witness
 
2013-11-16 01:09:34 AM

red5ish: Being an attorney means you represent your client, so I have no problem with Starr doing this. It is ugly but it is the way the system works.


Ken Starr was not the pedophile's attorney. He was a family friend who wrote the judge asking for leniency for a repeat child molester. He voluntarily told a judge that he thought a man who molested several girls under 14 had learned his lesson and was totally trustworthy.
 
2013-11-16 01:10:04 AM
I attended Potomac for High School with Kloman's son and Ken Starr's son.  In fact, I lived about a half mile from Starr.  I think it's a terrible shame that all this support is being expressed for someone who confessed to these crimes and it reflects very poorly on a school that I really loved.
 
2013-11-16 01:10:21 AM
look all the molestees were poors and what does it really matter now. and heck he felt bad about it for years afterward, that counts right? well according to that one woman it does.

me i'd throw him in gen pop with a big kiddie diddler sign around his neck. let him see what it's like to live in fear for a few years.
 
2013-11-16 01:11:56 AM

Curious: look all the molestees were poors and what does it really matter now. and heck he felt bad about it for years afterward, that counts right? well according to that one woman it does.

me i'd throw him in gen pop with a big kiddie diddler sign around his neck. let him see what it's like to live in fear for a few years.


More like live in pain for a few hours, if that happened.  And yet I can't say it's not justice.
 
2013-11-16 01:16:00 AM

red5ish: Being an attorney means you represent your client, so I have no problem with Starr doing this. It is ugly but it is the way the system works.


I know this is crazy and all... but you should probably RTFA.
 
2013-11-16 01:19:51 AM

red5ish: Being an attorney means you represent your client, so I have no problem with Starr doing this. It is ugly but it is the way the system works.


Fracking.  Retard.
 
2013-11-16 01:26:51 AM
How is this "political news?" How is Ken Starr even relevant any more?
 
2013-11-16 01:31:38 AM
Ken Starr was offended by consensual adult sexy time. Assaulting children? Not so much. Just. Wow.

/wish there were a hell
 
2013-11-16 01:33:02 AM

readbot42: Ken Starr was offended by consensual adult sexy time. Assaulting children? Not so much. Just. Wow.

/wish there were a hell


Are you sure you aren't in it now?
 
2013-11-16 01:34:17 AM

whidbey: How is this "political news?" How is Ken Starr even relevant any more?


Does defending a pedophile defender make you a pedophile defender defender? Why yes.

/Ken Starr is and always will be "political" to anyone paying attention in the '90s.
 
2013-11-16 01:35:35 AM
Looking at those letters was farking disgusting. The lynchpin to most of them was the "well, this happened years ago" defense, as if this guy deserved to not go to jail just because he wasn't caught right away.

Fark yous all around to all the people who wrote letters defending that asshole.
 
2013-11-16 01:35:52 AM

whidbey: readbot42: Ken Starr was offended by consensual adult sexy time. Assaulting children? Not so much. Just. Wow.

/wish there were a hell

Are you sure you aren't in it now?


You may have a point, considering the company. :(
 
2013-11-16 01:36:59 AM

readbot42: whidbey: How is this "political news?" How is Ken Starr even relevant any more?

Does defending a pedophile defender make you a pedophile defender defender? Why yes.

/Ken Starr is and always will be "political" to anyone paying attention in the '90s.


I was there, thanks, paying attention, and I still say he has no social or political relevance now. He should have lost every penny he made out of wasting the taxpayer dollars prosecuting Clinton.
 
2013-11-16 01:38:25 AM

whidbey: readbot42: whidbey: How is this "political news?" How is Ken Starr even relevant any more?

Does defending a pedophile defender make you a pedophile defender defender? Why yes.

/Ken Starr is and always will be "political" to anyone paying attention in the '90s.

I was there, thanks, paying attention, and I still say he has no social or political relevance now. He should have lost every penny he made out of wasting the taxpayer dollars prosecuting Clinton.


Agreed.
 
2013-11-16 01:39:08 AM

whidbey: readbot42: whidbey: How is this "political news?" How is Ken Starr even relevant any more?

Does defending a pedophile defender make you a pedophile defender defender? Why yes.

/Ken Starr is and always will be "political" to anyone paying attention in the '90s.

I was there, thanks, paying attention, and I still say he has no social or political relevance now. He should have lost every penny he made out of wasting the taxpayer dollars prosecuting Clinton.


I think I recall that some law schools were paying him to come out and give speeches, about 10 years back.
 
2013-11-16 01:43:20 AM
So, okay, he's been a model citizen since 1985 and supposedly repented of his ways. They say he hasn't harmed any kids since those long-ago days when he was molesting 14-year old girls. Now, I could almost accept that.....EXCEPT....

Was it Kenny Starr's dear friend himself who reported his crimes and made amends to his victims? Did he confess to his deeds and publicly own up to what he did, and voluntarily offer to do the community service his loyal supporters felt would be a better sentence than prison? Did he apologize to the girls whose lives he damaged? Did he remove himself from the presence of young girls so he could get a handle on his obvious emotional issues?

Or did he pretend it never happened, go on with his life, and, 20 years later, get caught back in close proximity to underage girls again? The youngest, who was 12 at the time Kloman molested her, sparked an investigation in 2011 when as an adult she discovered Kloman was substitute-teaching at her daughter's Maryland grade school.

I kind of think he never stopped fondling prepubescent Lolitas, Mr. Starr, and I really doubt he has been "conducting himself in an acceptable manner." He just didn't get caught again. But you keep on thinking that only bad Democrat presidents and their chubby interns do the nasty if that makes you happy.
 
2013-11-16 01:44:30 AM

whidbey: readbot42: Ken Starr was offended by consensual adult sexy time. Assaulting children? Not so much. Just. Wow.

/wish there were a hell

Are you sure you aren't in it now?


You're soaking in it!
 
2013-11-16 01:44:41 AM

red5ish: Being an attorney means you represent your client, so I have no problem with Starr doing this. It is ugly but it is the way the system works.


In no part of the article do I see that Starr is his attorney. He is just writing this letter as a supporter.

Of a child molester.
 
2013-11-16 01:45:05 AM
That's just disgusting...but why are the Polanskicrats outraged?
 
2013-11-16 01:45:14 AM

whidbey: How is this "political news?" How is Ken Starr even relevant any more?


You are going to be soooo pissed when they're still talking about Palin 20 years from now.
 
2013-11-16 01:46:08 AM
But getting a blowjob in the Oval Office is so heinous an act it merits all the money and self-righteous zeal you can throw at it, eh Ken?
 
2013-11-16 01:47:32 AM

Farker Soze: whidbey: How is this "political news?" How is Ken Starr even relevant any more?

You are going to be soooo pissed when they're still talking about Palin 20 years from now.


Well, they'll be looking back on a surprisingly strong and robust Presidency. That's different.
 
2013-11-16 01:49:11 AM

you are a puppet: red5ish: Being an attorney means you represent your client, so I have no problem with Starr doing this. It is ugly but it is the way the system works.

He's not the guy's attorney, he's a character witness


stoli n coke: red5ish: Being an attorney means you represent your client, so I have no problem with Starr doing this. It is ugly but it is the way the system works.

Ken Starr was not the pedophile's attorney. He was a family friend who wrote the judge asking for leniency for a repeat child molester. He voluntarily told a judge that he thought a man who molested several girls under 14 had learned his lesson and was totally trustworthy.


mongbiohazard: red5ish: Being an attorney means you represent your client, so I have no problem with Starr doing this. It is ugly but it is the way the system works.

I know this is crazy and all... but you should probably RTFA.


Testiclaw: red5ish: Being an attorney means you represent your client, so I have no problem with Starr doing this. It is ugly but it is the way the system works.

Fracking.  Retard.


GODAMNITSOMUCH.
Sorry, I failed.

imageshack.us
 
2013-11-16 01:49:15 AM

Farker Soze: whidbey: How is this "political news?" How is Ken Starr even relevant any more?

You are going to be soooo pissed when they're still talking about Palin 20 years from now.


Past tense, perhaps.

One of these days, she'll forget to breathe, and we'll never have to hear her voice again.
 
2013-11-16 01:51:34 AM

rosebud_the_sled: I can understand Ken Starr's position.  All Conservatives are child molesters, most of them have not confessed yet.


Oh please. "Let's execute the child molesting f*cker and be done with it" is the general conservative position.
 
2013-11-16 01:52:13 AM

Noam Chimpsky: That's just disgusting...but why are the Polanskicrats outraged?


Both sides are bad, so molest Republican? Is that what you're getting at?

Fine, Polanski belongs in jail, too. There. Now go pretend to be victimized somewhere else.
 
2013-11-16 01:53:17 AM

stoli n coke: Ken Starr was not the pedophile's attorney. He was a family friend who wrote the judge asking for leniency for a repeat child molester. He voluntarily told a judge that he thought a man who molested several girls under 14 had learned his lesson and was totally trustworthy.


I personally believe that Ken Starr has a large amount of actual honor (unlike most lawyers ... or Republicans).  My favorite bit bout Ken Starr is the fact that after he finished up his report on the Clinton investigation is that he sent his report to Congress via a truck and didn't notify them in advance.  Just threw it on their doorstep and walked away.  The House Republicans were furious.
 
2013-11-16 01:54:43 AM

stoli n coke: Looking at those letters was farking disgusting. The lynchpin to most of them was the "well, this happened years ago" defense, as if this guy deserved to not go to jail just because he wasn't caught right away.

Fark yous all around to all the people who wrote letters defending that asshole.


right on. for all these years those girls had to live with this. and whatever side effects it caused them. and you know there were some. time for him to spend 20 years thinking about what happened and what it means.

let a couple of pot possession guys out to make room for him.
 
2013-11-16 01:55:22 AM

violentsalvation: rosebud_the_sled: I can understand Ken Starr's position.  All Conservatives are child molesters, most of them have not confessed yet.

Oh please. "Let's execute the child molesting f*cker and be done with it" is the general conservative position.


Sure. Unless it is one of their own. Not so much an indictment of either ideology, but of Washington insiders feeling the need to defend their own. Starr isn't the only one defending this pedophile.
 
2013-11-16 01:55:29 AM

violentsalvation: rosebud_the_sled: I can understand Ken Starr's position.  All Conservatives are child molesters, most of them have not confessed yet.

Oh please. "Let's execute the child molesting f*cker and be done with it" is the general conservative position.


But then, It's OK If You Are A Republican.  IOKIYAAR.  Any rule, any law.
 
2013-11-16 01:56:49 AM
Eh, perhaps one to many A's in my acronym.
 
2013-11-16 02:01:52 AM

Curious: stoli n coke: Looking at those letters was farking disgusting. The lynchpin to most of them was the "well, this happened years ago" defense, as if this guy deserved to not go to jail just because he wasn't caught right away.

Fark yous all around to all the people who wrote letters defending that asshole.

right on. for all these years those girls had to live with this. and whatever side effects it caused them. and you know there were some. time for him to spend 20 years thinking about what happened and what it means.

let a couple of pot possession guys out to make room for him.


^^this^^
 
2013-11-16 02:04:44 AM
Who the fark is his guy that he could get so many high profile players to vouch for him in a court of law?

I mean Sanduski had a D-List celebrity thing going on so I sort of got why some idiots stuck up for him but this guy? WTF?
 
2013-11-16 02:07:26 AM
And to think that they want to get him released because he's a Chatty Kathy...

He really chatted up those 14 year old girls in order to get a little bit of extra curricular hanky panky, that's for sure.

What a scumbag. "Which one?", you say? Yeah, that one.
 
2013-11-16 02:11:25 AM

quatchi: Who the fark is his guy that he could get so many high profile players to vouch for him in a court of law?

I mean Sanduski had a D-List celebrity thing going on so I sort of got why some idiots stuck up for him but this guy? WTF?


He was our peeps, I guess. I mean, those coaches, they'll do anything, but Our People don't actually molest little girls. Anyway, Sandusky was a closet homo, with all them little boys, so who cares, right?
 
2013-11-16 02:17:06 AM

readbot42: Sure. Unless it is one of their own.


Alphax: violentsalvation: rosebud_the_sled: I can understand Ken Starr's position.  All Conservatives are child molesters, most of them have not confessed yet.

Oh please. "Let's execute the child molesting f*cker and be done with it" is the general conservative position.

But then, It's OK If You Are A Republican.  IOKIYAAR.  Any rule, any law.


Or maybe people just get blindly compassionate for people who they know for reasons other than their crimes and there is no partisan argument.
 
2013-11-16 02:18:51 AM

gingerjet: I personally believe that Ken Starr has a large amount of actual honor


As evidenced by the fact that he wants an admitted child molester to walk the streets because "he took the time to chat" with their 14-year old daughter... Yeah, I bet he did.

Seriously, campaigning to get an admitted child molester out is about as far from "honor" as you can get, IMHO, unless you are the actual molester.

It's not even like we can say "Well, he served his sentence, and paid his debt to society.".
 
2013-11-16 02:19:23 AM

stoli n coke: Noam Chimpsky: That's just disgusting...but why are the Polanskicrats outraged?

Both sides are bad, so molest Republican?


What? Are you Russian? I knew a Russian chick once that would say really funny shiat without realizing it.
 
2013-11-16 02:23:07 AM

quatchi: Who the fark is his guy that he could get so many high profile players to vouch for him in a court of law?

I mean Sanduski had a D-List celebrity thing going on so I sort of got why some idiots stuck up for him but this guy? WTF?


You're thinking he was providing the young pussy for the elite? The thought crossed my mind.
 
2013-11-16 02:24:16 AM

violentsalvation: readbot42: Sure. Unless it is one of their own.

Alphax: violentsalvation: rosebud_the_sled: I can understand Ken Starr's position.  All Conservatives are child molesters, most of them have not confessed yet.

Oh please. "Let's execute the child molesting f*cker and be done with it" is the general conservative position.

But then, It's OK If You Are A Republican.  IOKIYAAR.  Any rule, any law.

Or maybe people just get blindly compassionate for people who they know for reasons other than their crimes and there is no partisan argument.


Or both.  He's 'one of us'.
 
2013-11-16 02:45:38 AM

violentsalvation: rosebud_the_sled: I can understand Ken Starr's position.  All Conservatives are child molesters, most of them have not confessed yet.

Oh please. "Let's execute the child molesting f*cker and be done with it" is the general conservative position.


I thought it was doggie style?
 
2013-11-16 02:50:45 AM

fusillade762: violentsalvation: rosebud_the_sled: I can understand Ken Starr's position.  All Conservatives are child molesters, most of them have not confessed yet.

Oh please. "Let's execute the child molesting f*cker and be done with it" is the general conservative position.

I thought it was doggie style?


Well, some do like to bury a bone here and there.
 
2013-11-16 02:59:36 AM

whidbey: readbot42: Ken Starr was offended by consensual adult sexy time. Assaulting children? Not so much. Just. Wow.

/wish there were a hell

Are you sure you aren't in it now?


Approve
 
2013-11-16 03:08:41 AM

Empty Matchbook: whidbey: readbot42: Ken Starr was offended by consensual adult sexy time. Assaulting children? Not so much. Just. Wow.

/wish there were a hell

Are you sure you aren't in it now?

Approve


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2013-11-16 03:12:14 AM

readbot42: Ken Starr was offended by consensual adult sexy time.


Only if it was by a democratic president, it would seem.
 
2013-11-16 03:13:58 AM

readbot42: Ken Starr was offended by consensual adult sexy time. Assaulting children? Not so much. Just. Wow.

/wish there were a hell


i.imgur.com
 
2013-11-16 03:15:29 AM
Useful idiot for the Right-wing extra-constitutional usurpers. Move along, citizen. Nothing to see here.
 
2013-11-16 03:17:17 AM

Empty Matchbook: Empty Matchbook: whidbey: readbot42: Ken Starr was offended by consensual adult sexy time. Assaulting children? Not so much. Just. Wow.

/wish there were a hell

Are you sure you aren't in it now?

Approve

Someday I'll learn the proper use of PREVIEW...or Fark will have it not post if an image is being thrown out. So! TAKE 2!!

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Approves

/use take 2...


you're saying ken starr is a wee little puppet man?
 
2013-11-16 03:20:49 AM

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: readbot42: Ken Starr was offended by consensual adult sexy time.

Only if it was by a democratic president, it would seem.


The thing about Clinton sodomizing youngsters in the oval office with cigars was that back then it would be seen as a security risk for blackmail by hostiles.
 
2013-11-16 03:31:48 AM

fusillade762: whidbey: readbot42: Ken Starr was offended by consensual adult sexy time. Assaulting children? Not so much. Just. Wow.

/wish there were a hell

Are you sure you aren't in it now?

You're soaking in it!


Depends!

Good for something
 
2013-11-16 03:34:23 AM

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I'm going to say this again.  My friend did not have sexual relations with those minors.  And I don't care what the victims, the evidence, or the jury said.

 
2013-11-16 03:56:37 AM

Noam Chimpsky: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: readbot42: Ken Starr was offended by consensual adult sexy time.

Only if it was by a democratic president, it would seem.

The thing about Clinton sodomizing youngsters in the oval office with cigars was that back then it would be seen as a security risk for blackmail by hostiles.


Sure. Like Hillary didn't know. It wasn't about national security. It was about trying to find something, anything, to hurt "that pinko hippie" Clinton with. They threw everything they could find at the wall, and the only thing that stuck was the blowjob.
 
2013-11-16 04:05:22 AM

red5ish: Being an attorney means you represent your client, so I have no problem with Starr doing this. It is ugly but it is the way the system works.


He's not the attorney. He's the assbag who has a sad that his buddy can't golf with him.
 
2013-11-16 04:13:13 AM

Noam Chimpsky: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: readbot42: Ken Starr was offended by consensual adult sexy time.

Only if it was by a democratic president, it would seem.

The thing about Clinton sodomizing youngsters in the oval office with cigars was that back then it would be seen as a security risk for blackmail by hostiles.


I like how your dumb bad troll alt ran out of shtick to the point that you had to compare sexual harassment between adults to child rape.

Seriously. Either retire this theme or reexamine your shiatty thought process that made you think this was a plan.
 
2013-11-16 04:17:46 AM

Mikey1969: gingerjet: I personally believe that Ken Starr has a large amount of actual honor

As evidenced by the fact that he wants an admitted child molester to walk the streets because "he took the time to chat" with their 14-year old daughter... Yeah, I bet he did.

Seriously, campaigning to get an admitted child molester out is about as far from "honor" as you can get, IMHO, unless you are the actual molester.

It's not even like we can say "Well, he served his sentence, and paid his debt to society.".


Apparently "a large amount of actual honor" is slang for rape apologist.
 
2013-11-16 04:44:00 AM
When I saw "serial pedophile", I thought this was going to be about Ted Nugent. Isn't he supposed to be dead or in jail by now?
 
2013-11-16 04:44:05 AM

Noam Chimpsky: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: readbot42: Ken Starr was offended by consensual adult sexy time.

Only if it was by a democratic president, it would seem.

The thing about Clinton sodomizing youngsters in the oval office with cigars was that back then it would be seen as a security risk for blackmail by hostiles.


Especially by hypocrites whose motivations were purely political, and wasted lots of my taxpayer dollars.
More money-wasting Republicans. Damn those guys cost me a lot of money!
 
2013-11-16 04:49:41 AM

Rocket To Russia: When I saw "serial pedophile", I thought this was going to be about Ted Nugent. Isn't he supposed to be dead or in jail by now?


Really? No shiat?
 
2013-11-16 04:53:07 AM

stoli n coke: Noam Chimpsky: That's just disgusting...but why are the Polanskicrats outraged?

Both sides are bad, so molest Republican? Is that what you're getting at?

Fine, Polanski belongs in jail, too. There. Now go pretend to be victimized somewhere else.


You mean the guy that we Lieberals of the People's Republic of California convicted of rape, and are still trying to extradite?
 
2013-11-16 04:55:27 AM

Noam Chimpsky: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: readbot42: Ken Starr was offended by consensual adult sexy time.

Only if it was by a democratic president, it would seem.

The thing about Clinton sodomizing youngsters in the oval office with cigars was that back then it would be seen as a security risk for blackmail by hostiles.


Youngsters. Un hunh. Drew, please rein in you favored troll monkeys. They are making a mockery of your sideshow.
 
2013-11-16 05:06:10 AM

Ed Grubermann: Noam Chimpsky: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: readbot42: Ken Starr was offended by consensual adult sexy time.

Only if it was by a democratic president, it would seem.

The thing about Clinton sodomizing youngsters in the oval office with cigars was that back then it would be seen as a security risk for blackmail by hostiles.

Sure. Like Hillary didn't know. It wasn't about national security. It was about trying to find something, anything, to hurt "that pinko hippie" Clinton with. They threw everything they could find at the wall, and the only thing that stuck was the blowjob.


That, and what stuck on the blue dress. Just sayin'
 
2013-11-16 05:10:02 AM

jso2897: stoli n coke: Noam Chimpsky: That's just disgusting...but why are the Polanskicrats outraged?

Both sides are bad, so molest Republican? Is that what you're getting at?

Fine, Polanski belongs in jail, too. There. Now go pretend to be victimized somewhere else.

You mean the guy that we Lieberals of the People's Republic of California convicted of rape, and are still trying to extradite?


Yeah, him. The only reason Polanski got a pass was because the VICTIM wanted to let things slide, and people were willing to let it go for her sake.
 
2013-11-16 05:20:22 AM

Noam Chimpsky: quatchi: Who the fark is his guy that he could get so many high profile players to vouch for him in a court of law?

I mean Sanduski had a D-List celebrity thing going on so I sort of got why some idiots stuck up for him but this guy? WTF?

You're thinking he was providing the young pussy for the elite? The thought crossed my mind.


Oh man... I can't even begin to imagine how nasty things would get if that were true. How high would such a thing go?
 
2013-11-16 05:43:08 AM
While I am completely offended by Ken Starr's letter, the one that concerns me is the letter written by the Boy Scout adviser.  Bet dollars to donuts he's just sympathetic to a fellow traveler.
 
2013-11-16 06:02:02 AM
he admits to having molested several girls, yet 'we don't know of any occasion he was abusive to women or children'


is the mental mobius strip they've contorted their brains into that since he molested girls, he wasn't abusing women or children....or that molesting them wasn't abusive?

or just that they weren't present for the molestation, so it doesn't count?
 
2013-11-16 06:06:06 AM

Noam Chimpsky: stoli n coke: Noam Chimpsky: That's just disgusting...but why are the Polanskicrats outraged?

Both sides are bad, so molest Republican?

What? Are you Russian? I knew a Russian chick once that would say really funny shiat without realizing it.



Bullshiat. No chick would ever talk to you. At least, not without getting a credit card number first.
 
2013-11-16 06:31:46 AM

you are a puppet: red5ish: Being an attorney means you represent your client, so I have no problem with Starr doing this. It is ugly but it is the way the system works.

He's not the guy's attorney, he's a character witness


He signed a letter his wife wrote asking that 70 y/o manbe given community service for crimes that ended 30 years ago.  Sorry if I can't generate poutrage over this.   The butthurt over the definition of 'is' seems to still smolder in certain Democratic circle jerks.
 
2013-11-16 06:34:20 AM
Oh, he was nice to your daughter?  Are you sure of that?
 
2013-11-16 06:50:28 AM

Alphax: Oh, he was nice to your daughter?  Are you sure of that?


Oh, he's sure of it, all right. I'll bet he was "nice" to his daughter too. These kind always cover for each other.
 
2013-11-16 06:54:58 AM

Gyrfalcon: jso2897: stoli n coke: Noam Chimpsky: That's just disgusting...but why are the Polanskicrats outraged?

Both sides are bad, so molest Republican? Is that what you're getting at?

Fine, Polanski belongs in jail, too. There. Now go pretend to be victimized somewhere else.

You mean the guy that we Lieberals of the People's Republic of California convicted of rape, and are still trying to extradite?

Yeah, him. The only reason Polanski got a pass was because the VICTIM wanted to let things slide, and people were willing to let it go for her sake.


Uhh, no.   She wanted him to come back to the U.S. so it could be finished.  (maybe Ken Starr's wife should write a letter for Polanski to put the butthurt Starr haters in a tizzy.)

Polanski's victim:
"Straight up, what he did to me was wrong. But I wish he would return to America so the whole ordeal can be put to rest for both of us."

"I think he's sorry, I think he knows it was wrong. I don't think he's a danger to society. I don't think he needs to be locked up forever and no one has ever come out ever - besides me - and accused him of anything. It was 30 years ago now. "
 
2013-11-16 06:55:21 AM

tbeatty: you are a puppet: red5ish: Being an attorney means you represent your client, so I have no problem with Starr doing this. It is ugly but it is the way the system works.

He's not the guy's attorney, he's a character witness

He signed a letter his wife wrote asking that 70 y/o manbe given community service for crimes that ended 30 years ago.  Sorry if I can't generate poutrage over this.   The butthurt over the definition of 'is' seems to still smolder in certain Democratic circle jerks.


Well, it was nice of you to take the time and effort to come in here and tell us how much you don't care.
We know who's really butthurt about this story.
 
2013-11-16 06:56:34 AM

tbeatty: you are a puppet: red5ish: Being an attorney means you represent your client, so I have no problem with Starr doing this. It is ugly but it is the way the system works.

He's not the guy's attorney, he's a character witness

He signed a letter his wife wrote asking that 70 y/o manbe given community service for crimes that ended 30 years ago.  Sorry if I can't generate poutrage over this.   The butthurt over the definition of 'is' seems to still smolder in certain Democratic circle jerks.


So if you can avoid detection for 30 yrs you are somehow more deserving of community service than the guy who got caught diddling that 12 yr old last week?   It wasn't like he came forward and turned himself in, I consider the fact that for 30+ years (at least)* he took steps to conceal his activities and hide what he had done and I believe that actually makes the situation worse!

*And if you believe that he actually molested 10 young girls over a period of nearly 20 yrs and just suddenly gave up the practice - then he is way out of the norm according to all the research I have ever read about pedophiles.  Much more likely, statistically speaking, is that the prosecutors were simply unable to unearth more victims from post 1985, not that they don't exist or he had abandoned his little "hobby."
 
2013-11-16 06:56:43 AM

tbeatty: Gyrfalcon: jso2897: stoli n coke: Noam Chimpsky: That's just disgusting...but why are the Polanskicrats outraged?

Both sides are bad, so molest Republican? Is that what you're getting at?

Fine, Polanski belongs in jail, too. There. Now go pretend to be victimized somewhere else.

You mean the guy that we Lieberals of the People's Republic of California convicted of rape, and are still trying to extradite?

Yeah, him. The only reason Polanski got a pass was because the VICTIM wanted to let things slide, and people were willing to let it go for her sake.

Uhh, no.   She wanted him to come back to the U.S. so it could be finished.  (maybe Ken Starr's wife should write a letter for Polanski to put the butthurt Starr haters in a tizzy.)

Polanski's victim:
"Straight up, what he did to me was wrong. But I wish he would return to America so the whole ordeal can be put to rest for both of us."

"I think he's sorry, I think he knows it was wrong. I don't think he's a danger to society. I don't think he needs to be locked up forever and no one has ever come out ever - besides me - and accused him of anything. It was 30 years ago now. "


Nice derail and threadshiat - 100% off-topic and retarded.
 
2013-11-16 07:00:13 AM

jso2897: tbeatty: Gyrfalcon: jso2897: stoli n coke: Noam Chimpsky: That's just disgusting...but why are the Polanskicrats outraged?

Both sides are bad, so molest Republican? Is that what you're getting at?

Fine, Polanski belongs in jail, too. There. Now go pretend to be victimized somewhere else.

You mean the guy that we Lieberals of the People's Republic of California convicted of rape, and are still trying to extradite?

Yeah, him. The only reason Polanski got a pass was because the VICTIM wanted to let things slide, and people were willing to let it go for her sake.

Uhh, no.   She wanted him to come back to the U.S. so it could be finished.  (maybe Ken Starr's wife should write a letter for Polanski to put the butthurt Starr haters in a tizzy.)

Polanski's victim:
"Straight up, what he did to me was wrong. But I wish he would return to America so the whole ordeal can be put to rest for both of us."

"I think he's sorry, I think he knows it was wrong. I don't think he's a danger to society. I don't think he needs to be locked up forever and no one has ever come out ever - besides me - and accused him of anything. It was 30 years ago now. "

Nice derail and threadshiat - 100% off-topic and retarded.


0 / 10 - But I'll concede you are off-topic retarded.
 
2013-11-16 07:02:58 AM

lawboy87: tbeatty: you are a puppet: red5ish: Being an attorney means you represent your client, so I have no problem with Starr doing this. It is ugly but it is the way the system works.

He's not the guy's attorney, he's a character witness

He signed a letter his wife wrote asking that 70 y/o manbe given community service for crimes that ended 30 years ago.  Sorry if I can't generate poutrage over this.   The butthurt over the definition of 'is' seems to still smolder in certain Democratic circle jerks.

So if you can avoid detection for 30 yrs you are somehow more deserving of community service than the guy who got caught diddling that 12 yr old last week?   It wasn't like he came forward and turned himself in, I consider the fact that for 30+ years (at least)* he took steps to conceal his activities and hide what he had done and I believe that actually makes the situation worse!



Why do you hate DREAMers?
 
2013-11-16 07:05:53 AM
Republicans to appoint new Special Prosecutor:
i18.photobucket.com
 
2013-11-16 07:07:08 AM

tbeatty: you are a puppet: red5ish: Being an attorney means you represent your client, so I have no problem with Starr doing this. It is ugly but it is the way the system works.

He's not the guy's attorney, he's a character witness

He signed a letter his wife wrote asking that 70 y/o manbe given community service for crimes that ended 30 years ago.  Sorry if I can't generate poutrage over this.   The butthurt over the definition of 'is' seems to still smolder in certain Democratic circle jerks.


Your belief that sex crimes committed 30 years ago deserve a pass is noted for the record. I shall call you Old Man Rapey.
 
2013-11-16 07:09:11 AM

you are a puppet: tbeatty: you are a puppet: red5ish: Being an attorney means you represent your client, so I have no problem with Starr doing this. It is ugly but it is the way the system works.

He's not the guy's attorney, he's a character witness

He signed a letter his wife wrote asking that 70 y/o manbe given community service for crimes that ended 30 years ago.  Sorry if I can't generate poutrage over this.   The butthurt over the definition of 'is' seems to still smolder in certain Democratic circle jerks.

Your belief that sex crimes committed 30 years ago deserve a pass is noted for the record. I shall call you Old Man Rapey.


Careful - he'll give you a troll rating if you're not careful - we got ourselves a badass over there.
 
2013-11-16 07:12:01 AM
Derp to English Translator: "Circle Jerk" translates to:
"Fewer than 21% of the population agree with me, and that is reflected in open forums that don't screen out opinions I don't like."
 
2013-11-16 07:23:40 AM
Ken Starr has been morally bankrupt since the 90's.

Pedophiles victimize the most vulnerable, and this guy was in a position of trust.

but...

I have always assumed that belief in rehabilitation was a more liberal than conservative bias. And while not everyone thinks pedophilia can be cured, it does seem that it can be at least controlled. Is it such an awful thing that Starr thinks this guy deserves a bit of a break?

I cringe every time some Bible thumping conservative talks about how we are a Christian nation, and that godly men and women founded this country. Yet these same idiots want to lock up non-violent criminals for life, cut funding for prison education, and demand that felons lose their right to vote. So much for forgiveness and redemption.

So if Ken Starr shows a little heart, and suggests that a 74 year old man be released to community service instead of spending the rest of his life in prison, maybe he shouldn't be pilloried for practicing a Christian ethic for once.
 
2013-11-16 07:37:41 AM

you are a puppet: tbeatty: you are a puppet: red5ish: Being an attorney means you represent your client, so I have no problem with Starr doing this. It is ugly but it is the way the system works.

He's not the guy's attorney, he's a character witness

He signed a letter his wife wrote asking that 70 y/o manbe given community service for crimes that ended 30 years ago.  Sorry if I can't generate poutrage over this.   The butthurt over the definition of 'is' seems to still smolder in certain Democratic circle jerks.

Your belief that sex crimes committed 30 years ago deserve a pass is noted for the record. I shall call you Old Man Rapey.


Meh, they could execute this guy and Polanski or let them go and I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.  LAck of victims over an extended period of time tends to point away from being a pedophile for both of them.  Still if punishment is required, might as well execute them.  'Fry Mumia' and all.  He didn't kill anybody for a long time and he still deserved to die.   It's the mouth-breathers that form their opinion based on who wrote support letters that deserve ridicule.  Their attention span is limited to "Ken Starr" && "support letter" -> "foam at mouth, pitchforks and torches".  It's the blatant hypocrisy to see the same idiots calling for prison because Ken Starr's wife wrote a letter vs. "free Mumia and Polansky because herp-a-derp"
 
2013-11-16 07:40:33 AM
When Starr's limelight was brightest, I was in the elevator at one of the fanciest Hyde Park hotels in London, hoping Ken Starr antics didn't continue to crater the value of the dollar.

A fellow guest from the local area asked "What's the Ken Starr thing all about?"

I replied "He's a tobacco lawyer."

Watching his instant look of recognition was priceless.
 
2013-11-16 07:51:23 AM

Maturin: Ken Starr has been morally bankrupt since the 90's.

Pedophiles victimize the most vulnerable, and this guy was in a position of trust.

but...

I have always assumed that belief in rehabilitation was a more liberal than conservative bias. And while not everyone thinks pedophilia can be cured, it does seem that it can be at least controlled. Is it such an awful thing that Starr thinks this guy deserves a bit of a break?

I cringe every time some Bible thumping conservative talks about how we are a Christian nation, and that godly men and women founded this country. Yet these same idiots want to lock up non-violent criminals for life, cut funding for prison education, and demand that felons lose their right to vote. So much for forgiveness and redemption.

So if Ken Starr shows a little heart, and suggests that a 74 year old man be released to community service instead of spending the rest of his life in prison, maybe he shouldn't be pilloried for practicing a Christian ethic for once.


Rehabilitation is one function of criminal sentencing. There are also punishment, deterrence, protection...I don't think we should let a guy completely off the hook for molesting numerous kids over the years just because he finally stopped after going impotent from old age.
 
2013-11-16 07:51:29 AM

Maturin: Ken Starr has been morally bankrupt since the 90's.

Pedophiles victimize the most vulnerable, and this guy was in a position of trust.

but...

I have always assumed that belief in rehabilitation was a more liberal than conservative bias. And while not everyone thinks pedophilia can be cured, it does seem that it can be at least controlled. Is it such an awful thing that Starr thinks this guy deserves a bit of a break?

I cringe every time some Bible thumping conservative talks about how we are a Christian nation, and that godly men and women founded this country. Yet these same idiots want to lock up non-violent criminals for life, cut funding for prison education, and demand that felons lose their right to vote. So much for forgiveness and redemption.

So if Ken Starr shows a little heart, and suggests that a 74 year old man be released to community service instead of spending the rest of his life in prison, maybe he shouldn't be pilloried for practicing a Christian ethic for once.


Most folks' belief of redemption ends around kiddie-diddlers, it's the whole reason we have a sex offender registry that continues to punish people after they get out of jail.  Folks like Starr are a part of that group, but sometimes they get a blind spot when the person claims to love the right version of jesus hard enough. See Mike Huckabee's pardoning of Wayne Dumond.

For my own part I try to stick with the science.  Serial killers don't get better at being people, they just get better at hiding and faking humanity.  I'm hazier on pedos, but I'm pretty sure they don't get better either.
 
2013-11-16 08:03:17 AM

Aquapope: But getting a blowjob in the Oval Office is so heinous an act it merits all the money and self-righteous zeal you can throw at it, eh Ken?


You're forgetting that the next talking point is BUT HE LIED UNDER OATH.

Iran/Contra:  Just defending freedom, nobody to blame
Lewsinky: MONSTER
Iraq war: Just defending freedom, nobody to blame
Health insurance reform: MONSTER
 
2013-11-16 08:06:49 AM
lawboy87:

*And if you believe that he actually molested 10 young girls over a period of nearly 20 yrs and just suddenly gave up the practice - then he is way out of the norm according to all the research I have ever read about pedophiles.  Much more likely, statistically speaking, is that the prosecutors were simply unable to unearth more victims from post 1985, not that they don't exist or he had abandoned his little "hobby."

I didn't read 10 girls, but 10 incidents with 4 victims  and a narrow range of age between 12 and 14.  You should be able to use your razor intellect to deduce that the age range, stopping and lack of victims coupled with your extensive research, would lead away from assessing him as a pedophile.  Same with Polansky.  If you knew anything at all, you should at least be able to distinguish pedophilia (interest in pre-pubescent children) from other paraphilia's that don't fall in that category.  Doesn't mean he isn't a rapist or sex offender, but slapping a label like 'pedophile' without understanding what it means and then implying he must behave as pedophiles behave is simply stupid.  Please go let Wikipedia form an opinion for you so you can at least understand the terms.  Then let Occam's Razor apply what you learned.
 
2013-11-16 08:17:18 AM

Shedim: Noam Chimpsky: quatchi: Who the fark is his guy that he could get so many high profile players to vouch for him in a court of law?

I mean Sanduski had a D-List celebrity thing going on so I sort of got why some idiots stuck up for him but this guy? WTF?

You're thinking he was providing the young pussy for the elite? The thought crossed my mind.

Oh man... I can't even begin to imagine how nasty things would get if that were true. How high would such a thing go?


All the way to the top?
 
2013-11-16 08:18:33 AM
Oh boy you Farklibs are digging real deep to try to offset the Obamacare fiasco.
 
2013-11-16 08:24:02 AM

Kibbler: Aquapope: But getting a blowjob in the Oval Office is so heinous an act it merits all the money and self-righteous zeal you can throw at it, eh Ken?

You're forgetting that the next talking point is BUT HE LIED UNDER OATH.

Iran/Contra:  Just defending freedom, nobody to blame
Lewsinky: MONSTER
Iraq war: Just defending freedom, nobody to blame
Health insurance reform: MONSTER


The ButtHurt is strong in this one.
 
2013-11-16 08:24:09 AM

Curious: look all the molestees were poors and what does it really matter now. and heck he felt bad about it for years afterward, that counts right? well according to that one woman it does.

me i'd throw him in gen pop with a big kiddie diddler sign around his neck. let him see what it's like to live in fear for a few years.


Absolutely. There is no reason we protect people like this once they are in jail.
 
2013-11-16 08:24:19 AM
FTA:   Sullivan said Kloman held her so tightly his arms were like "lobster claws."

What the fark are Robster Craws?
 
2013-11-16 08:31:19 AM
I'm love to have the money to fund a series of tv, radio, and newspaper adds in the Washington area giving the names and pictures of all those people supporting this idiocy.
 
2013-11-16 08:36:10 AM

violentsalvation: rosebud_the_sled: I can understand Ken Starr's position.  All Conservatives are child molesters, most of them have not confessed yet.

Oh please. "Let's execute the child molesting f*cker and be done with it" is the general conservative position.


Except when it's one of their own, as seen in TFA.
 
2013-11-16 08:46:00 AM

Stile4aly: I attended Potomac for High School with Kloman's son and Ken Starr's son.  In fact, I lived about a half mile from Starr.  I think it's a terrible shame that all this support is being expressed for someone who confessed to these crimes and it reflects very poorly on a school that I really loved.


Mclean was pretty farked up wasn't it.
 
2013-11-16 08:53:43 AM

tbeatty: lawboy87:

*And if you believe that he actually molested 10 young girls over a period of nearly 20 yrs and just suddenly gave up the practice - then he is way out of the norm according to all the research I have ever read about pedophiles.  Much more likely, statistically speaking, is that the prosecutors were simply unable to unearth more victims from post 1985, not that they don't exist or he had abandoned his little "hobby."

I didn't read 10 girls, but 10 incidents with 4 victims  and a narrow range of age between 12 and 14.  You should be able to use your razor intellect to deduce that the age range, stopping and lack of victims coupled with your extensive research, would lead away from assessing him as a pedophile.  Same with Polansky.  If you knew anything at all, you should at least be able to distinguish pedophilia (interest in pre-pubescent children) from other paraphilia's that don't fall in that category.  Doesn't mean he isn't a rapist or sex offender, but slapping a label like 'pedophile' without understanding what it means and then implying he must behave as pedophiles behave is simply stupid.  Please go let Wikipedia form an opinion for you so you can at least understand the terms.  Then let Occam's Razor apply what you learned.


You're typing an awful lot of words to defend an admitted child rapist.

Is there something you'd like to share with the class?
 
2013-11-16 08:57:13 AM
Why does anyone believe Starr was either a moral authority or anything other than a wanking douchebag? He had exactly one point to prove and he couldn't prove it. What he did do is introduce a whole huge report that had little to do with the point he was trying to make, but instead served as a tawdry wank piece.
 
2013-11-16 08:59:53 AM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Shedim: Noam Chimpsky: quatchi: Who the fark is his guy that he could get so many high profile players to vouch for him in a court of law?

I mean Sanduski had a D-List celebrity thing going on so I sort of got why some idiots stuck up for him but this guy? WTF?

You're thinking he was providing the young pussy for the elite? The thought crossed my mind.

Oh man... I can't even begin to imagine how nasty things would get if that were true. How high would such a thing go?

All the way to the top?


Your source reads like conspiracy theory fanfic. My application of Occam's Razor suggests that it never happened; there is no way something like that could be kept "blacked out" for 30 years. Ad IF this documentary is genuine, why hasn't it exploded across every major and minor internet site? Why is it still mouldering away in some tiny backwater site that hardly anyone knows exists?
 
2013-11-16 08:59:53 AM

coffeeplease: Oh boy you Farklibs are digging real deep to try to offset the Obamacare fiasco.


Fark never pointed out Republicans being scumbaggy hypocrites before Obamacare rolled out a buggy website. This is totally 'offsetting', and not 'business as usual'.
 
2013-11-16 09:03:37 AM

readbot42: Ken Starr was offended by consensual adult sexy time.



No, he wasn't.  He was involved in the fishing expedition the republicans put  in place to discredit a democratic president.  The goal was to find something damaging that would stick, they started with Whitewater and it ended with a blowjob.

This is the same strategy the republicans are using with Obama, and they'll be back at it full force once the issues with the marketplace website are corrected.
 
2013-11-16 09:04:35 AM
Let me know when Fox news puts (D) behind his name, then I will know he is the worst kind of evil.
Being a pedophile = acceptable, being a democrat = unacceptable, Being a democrat president = lock him up
 
2013-11-16 09:06:00 AM
Whew, good thing I despise everyone in DC.

/ahead of the curve.
 
2013-11-16 09:08:30 AM

Shedim: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Shedim: Noam Chimpsky: quatchi: Who the fark is his guy that he could get so many high profile players to vouch for him in a court of law?

I mean Sanduski had a D-List celebrity thing going on so I sort of got why some idiots stuck up for him but this guy? WTF?

You're thinking he was providing the young pussy for the elite? The thought crossed my mind.

Oh man... I can't even begin to imagine how nasty things would get if that were true. How high would such a thing go?

All the way to the top?

Your source reads like conspiracy theory fanfic. My application of Occam's Razor suggests that it never happened; there is no way something like that could be kept "blacked out" for 30 years. Ad IF this documentary is genuine, why hasn't it exploded across every major and minor internet site? Why is it still mouldering away in some tiny backwater site that hardly anyone knows exists?


Yes, it kinda does. Here's a Google   search for you to make up your own mind. All I know is that we'll never know for sure.
 
2013-11-16 09:13:58 AM
What a bunch of assholes. Every one of these shiatstains who wrote a letter defending this cockhole. They're all seemingly incapable of empathy. Just imagine if it had been one of their daughters, think they'd still feel the same about this guy?
 
2013-11-16 09:24:09 AM
Here's a not very controversial idea from my perspective as an armchair psychologist: pedophilia is a sexual orientation, much like homosexuality. That doesn't change the fact that sexual contact with underage children is absurdly exploitative and deserves to be a felony.
 
ecl
2013-11-16 09:28:59 AM

Maturin: Ken Starr has been morally bankrupt since the 90's.

Pedophiles victimize the most vulnerable, and this guy was in a position of trust.

but...

I have always assumed that belief in rehabilitation was a more liberal than conservative bias. And while not everyone thinks pedophilia can be cured, it does seem that it can be at least controlled. Is it such an awful thing that Starr thinks this guy deserves a bit of a break?

I cringe every time some Bible thumping conservative talks about how we are a Christian nation, and that godly men and women founded this country. Yet these same idiots want to lock up non-violent criminals for life, cut funding for prison education, and demand that felons lose their right to vote. So much for forgiveness and redemption.

So if Ken Starr shows a little heart, and suggests that a 74 year old man be released to community service instead of spending the rest of his life in prison, maybe he shouldn't be pilloried for practicing a Christian ethic for once.


You are dogsh*t.
 
2013-11-16 09:36:07 AM

whidbey: Well, they'll be looking back on a surprisingly strong and robust Presidency. That's different.


Wow, what drugs do you take to foster such delusions?

Alphax: violentsalvation: rosebud_the_sled: I can understand Ken Starr's position.  All Conservatives are child molesters, most of them have not confessed yet.

Oh please. "Let's execute the child molesting f*cker and be done with it" is the general conservative position.

But then, It's OK If You Are A Republican.  IOKIYAAR.  Any rule, any law.


Starr is non-partisan despite the derpish claims. He's worked for Democrat child molester Jeffrey Epstein, Blackwater, ACLU, NRA, and Pro-Prop 8.

He's a lawyer if you start assigning motives other than survival to them, you humanize them.
 
2013-11-16 09:39:55 AM

Noam Chimpsky: That's just disgusting...but why are the Polanskicrats outraged?


Do tell.
What is a Polanskicrat?
 
2013-11-16 09:43:35 AM

Maturin: Ken Starr has been morally bankrupt since the 90's.

Pedophiles victimize the most vulnerable, and this guy was in a position of trust.

but...

I have always assumed that belief in rehabilitation was a more liberal than conservative bias. And while not everyone thinks pedophilia can be cured, it does seem that it can be at least controlled. Is it such an awful thing that Starr thinks this guy deserves a bit of a break?

I cringe every time some Bible thumping conservative talks about how we are a Christian nation, and that godly men and women founded this country. Yet these same idiots want to lock up non-violent criminals for life, cut funding for prison education, and demand that felons lose their right to vote. So much for forgiveness and redemption.

So if Ken Starr shows a little heart, and suggests that a 74 year old man be released to community service instead of spending the rest of his life in prison, maybe he shouldn't be pilloried for practicing a Christian ethic for once.


Say that again after a bastard like this molests one of your children, and I'll listen.
 
2013-11-16 09:46:20 AM

Serious Black: Here's a not very controversial idea from my perspective as an armchair psychologist: pedophilia is a sexual orientation, much like homosexuality. That doesn't change the fact that sexual contact with underage children is absurdly exploitative and deserves to be a felony.


Some have stated that, publicly, so you get a 3/10 . Higher marks would have been given if you had at least one clicky source.


Look, some do like them young. I dont understand that because most of my conversation with kids is "put that down ""where is your parent" "its a pill, not a suppository " ( the last was to some 20 something who asked about the womens libido pills at the counter . ) . So I could never even imagine having enough  of a conversation to even go... there. And I have watched too many kids grow up- it just grosses me out. Thats just me though- the Gods know there are plenty of peds out there.
 
2013-11-16 10:06:34 AM
Asking for leniency in sentencing is not the same as asking someone to be freed immediately.  But don't let that get in the way of your rage-on.

ps.  if you wish to complain about a special prosecutor being political, look no further than Lawrence Walsh.
 
2013-11-16 10:06:41 AM

mongbiohazard: red5ish: Being an attorney means you represent your client, so I have no problem with Starr doing this. It is ugly but it is the way the system works.

I know this is crazy and all... but you should probably RTFA.


Hell, he should probably start by reading the headline.
 
2013-11-16 10:14:42 AM

alienated: Serious Black: Here's a not very controversial idea from my perspective as an armchair psychologist: pedophilia is a sexual orientation, much like homosexuality. That doesn't change the fact that sexual contact with underage children is absurdly exploitative and deserves to be a felony.

Some have stated that, publicly, so you get a 3/10 . Higher marks would have been given if you had at least one clicky source.


Look, some do like them young. I dont understand that because most of my conversation with kids is "put that down ""where is your parent" "its a pill, not a suppository " ( the last was to some 20 something who asked about the womens libido pills at the counter . ) . So I could never even imagine having enough  of a conversation to even go... there. And I have watched too many kids grow up- it just grosses me out. Thats just me though- the Gods know there are plenty of peds out there.


Yes, people think abhorrent things. It sucks. But people have freedom of thought. People have a right to ethical independence. Those rights end where the kid's right to not be exploited are violated. Possible analogy: is it cheating if I am married and fantasize about having sex with Scarlett Johansson?

/if this is making no sense, I blame waking up with sandwiches
 
ecl
2013-11-16 10:25:25 AM

Cataholic: Asking for leniency in sentencing is not the same as asking someone to be freed immediately.  But don't let that get in the way of your rage-on.


Is he standing up for a pedophile?  That's what people are mad about.
 
2013-11-16 10:27:15 AM

Serious Black: alienated: Serious Black: Here's a not very controversial idea from my perspective as an armchair psychologist: pedophilia is a sexual orientation, much like homosexuality. That doesn't change the fact that sexual contact with underage children is absurdly exploitative and deserves to be a felony.

Some have stated that, publicly, so you get a 3/10 . Higher marks would have been given if you had at least one clicky source.


Look, some do like them young. I dont understand that because most of my conversation with kids is "put that down ""where is your parent" "its a pill, not a suppository " ( the last was to some 20 something who asked about the womens libido pills at the counter . ) . So I could never even imagine having enough  of a conversation to even go... there. And I have watched too many kids grow up- it just grosses me out. Thats just me though- the Gods know there are plenty of peds out there.

Yes, people think abhorrent things. It sucks. But people have freedom of thought. People have a right to ethical independence. Those rights end where the kid's right to not be exploited are violated. Possible analogy: is it cheating if I am married and fantasize about having sex with Scarlett Johansson?

/if this is making no sense, I blame waking up with sandwiches


Or here's an alternate view that involves treating these kinds of thoughts as obsessions in done cases:

http://m.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/11/obsessive-thoughts-a- d arker-side-of-ocd/281260/
 
2013-11-16 10:28:33 AM
readbot42: Ken Starr was offended by consensual adult sexy time. Assaulting children? Not so much. Just. Wow.

/wish there were a hell


You have a lot of faith.
 
2013-11-16 10:29:58 AM

Cataholic: Asking for leniency in sentencing is not the same as asking someone to be freed immediately


Asking for leniency for a rapist pedophile will get you placed onto the "loves rapist pedophiles" list.  Especially when you then try to rationalize his behavior.

That is only fair.
 
2013-11-16 10:31:22 AM

Uranus Is Huge!: tbeatty: lawboy87:

*And if you believe that he actually molested 10 young girls over a period of nearly 20 yrs and just suddenly gave up the practice - then he is way out of the norm according to all the research I have ever read about pedophiles.  Much more likely, statistically speaking, is that the prosecutors were simply unable to unearth more victims from post 1985, not that they don't exist or he had abandoned his little "hobby."

I didn't read 10 girls, but 10 incidents with 4 victims  and a narrow range of age between 12 and 14.  You should be able to use your razor intellect to deduce that the age range, stopping and lack of victims coupled with your extensive research, would lead away from assessing him as a pedophile.  Same with Polansky.  If you knew anything at all, you should at least be able to distinguish pedophilia (interest in pre-pubescent children) from other paraphilia's that don't fall in that category.  Doesn't mean he isn't a rapist or sex offender, but slapping a label like 'pedophile' without understanding what it means and then implying he must behave as pedophiles behave is simply stupid.  Please go let Wikipedia form an opinion for you so you can at least understand the terms.  Then let Occam's Razor apply what you learned.

You're typing an awful lot of words to defend an admitted child rapist.

Is there something you'd like to share with the class?


Yeah the rationalization here is really creepy. Maybe he should have a seat over there.
 
2013-11-16 10:37:04 AM
But but but Polanski. Eat scheiße and die Republican troll kiddie molester apologists. Always remembering that Clinton got a blowjob and 0bama's website didn't work perfectly.
 
2013-11-16 10:38:00 AM

red5ish: Sorry, I failed.


Eh, it happens. Good on you for manning up instead of doubling down.
 
2013-11-16 10:38:18 AM

Kevin72: But but but Polanski. Eat scheiße and die Republican troll kiddie molester apologists. Always remembering that Clinton got a blowjob and 0bama's website didn't work perfectly.


Oh yeah, and don't forget BENGHAZI.
 
2013-11-16 10:43:28 AM

Cataholic: Asking for leniency in sentencing is not the same as asking someone to be freed immediately.  But don't let that get in the way of your rage-on.

ps.  if you wish to complain about a special prosecutor being political, look no further than Lawrence Walsh.


"Mr. Kloman is currently repenting for his past sins and will continue to do so if given a chance to serve his community and neighbors. Community service would be a far better punishment than having him languish in jail."
 
2013-11-16 10:47:18 AM
 
2013-11-16 10:50:57 AM

Cataholic: Asking for leniency in sentencing is not the same as asking someone to be freed immediately.  But don't let that get in the way of your rage-on.

ps.  if you wish to complain about a special prosecutor being political, look no further than Lawrence Walsh.


He was already convicted and sentenced to 43 years in prison. after serving less than a year, Ken Starr specifically asked that his sentence be commuted to community service.

...which would release him from prison.
 
2013-11-16 11:24:48 AM

Maturin: maybe he shouldn't be pilloried for practicing a Christian ethic for once.


You're just asking Fark to label Christians as pedophiles, but I bet you already knew that.
 
2013-11-16 11:28:19 AM

Les Comdien Masque: it seems likely that there were more than the four he admitted to


That is always the case. Always.
 
2013-11-16 11:32:10 AM

Uranus Is Huge!: You're typing an awful lot of words to defend an admitted child rapist.

Is there something you'd like to share with the class?


Tbeatty is a pretty hardcore troll.  For him, it's all about the trolling, not the subject matter.
 
2013-11-16 11:39:56 AM

Sgt Otter: Cataholic: Asking for leniency in sentencing is not the same as asking someone to be freed immediately.  But don't let that get in the way of your rage-on.

ps.  if you wish to complain about a special prosecutor being political, look no further than Lawrence Walsh.

He was already convicted and sentenced to 43 years in prison. after serving less than a year, Ken Starr specifically asked that his sentence be commuted to community service.

...which would release him from prison.


You must be using Obama's time machine.  The dude was sentenced on October 18, 2013.  The letter in question was written on September 17, 2013 for the purpose of having the judge consider it when imposing sentence.
 
2013-11-16 11:53:45 AM

Cataholic: Sgt Otter: Cataholic: Asking for leniency in sentencing is not the same as asking someone to be freed immediately.  But don't let that get in the way of your rage-on.

ps.  if you wish to complain about a special prosecutor being political, look no further than Lawrence Walsh.

He was already convicted and sentenced to 43 years in prison. after serving less than a year, Ken Starr specifically asked that his sentence be commuted to community service.

...which would release him from prison.

You must be using Obama's time machine.  The dude was sentenced on October 18, 2013.  The letter in question was written on September 17, 2013 for the purpose of having the judge consider it when imposing sentence.


FTA:  Community service would be a far better punishment than having him languish in jail.

He's asking for community service instead of jail time.
 
2013-11-16 12:00:04 PM

Cataholic: if you wish to complain about a special prosecutor being political, look no further than Lawrence Walsh.


Comparing Iran-Contra to BJgate?

Wow.
 
2013-11-16 12:15:58 PM

gingerjet: stoli n coke: Ken Starr was not the pedophile's attorney. He was a family friend who wrote the judge asking for leniency for a repeat child molester. He voluntarily told a judge that he thought a man who molested several girls under 14 had learned his lesson and was totally trustworthy.

I personally believe that Ken Starr has a large amount of actual honor (unlike most lawyers ... or Republicans).  My favorite bit bout Ken Starr is the fact that after he finished up his report on the Clinton investigation is that he sent his report to Congress via a truck and didn't notify them in advance.  Just threw it on their doorstep and walked away.  The House Republicans were furious.




So what the result any how? Was Clinton guilty in the Whitewater thing or not?

Can you summarize the 6 year investigation in one sentence?
 
2013-11-16 12:37:37 PM

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Can you summarize the 6 year investigation in one sentence?


How about two words? "Witch hunt."

/Mmm. Those two words were worth hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars!
 
2013-11-16 01:09:20 PM

Fuggin Bizzy: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Can you summarize the 6 year investigation in one sentence?

How about two words? "Witch hunt."

/Mmm. Those two words were worth hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars!


But hey, they got to give Clinton shiat for getting a blowjob! So totally worth it.
 
2013-11-16 01:16:43 PM

Cataholic: Asking for leniency in sentencing is not the same as asking someone to be freed immediately.  But don't let that get in the way of your rage-on.

ps.  if you wish to complain about a special prosecutor being political, look no further than Lawrence Walsh.


I know you're a trolling douche, but please ask yourself this:
Is this what you've come to?  Is this what you're willing to support?  Defending a pedophile?  Asking for a pedophile to be able to avoid jail time?  Do you have a single friend or relative that you'd be willing to tell them that you spend your day on the internet asking for a pedophile to be released from jail?

Are you really this pathetic of an individual?
 
2013-11-16 01:44:31 PM

Mrbogey: whidbey: Well, they'll be looking back on a surprisingly strong and robust Presidency. That's different.

Wow, what drugs do you take to foster such delusions?

Alphax: violentsalvation: rosebud_the_sled: I can understand Ken Starr's position.  All Conservatives are child molesters, most of them have not confessed yet.

Oh please. "Let's execute the child molesting f*cker and be done with it" is the general conservative position.

But then, It's OK If You Are A Republican.  IOKIYAAR.  Any rule, any law.

Starr is non-partisan despite the derpish claims. He's worked for Democrat child molester Jeffrey Epstein, Blackwater, ACLU, NRA, and Pro-Prop 8.

He's a lawyer if you start assigning motives other than survival to them, you humanize them.


You actually call someone delusional and then claim that Ken Starr is non-partisan?

Just wow.
 
2013-11-16 01:57:30 PM

Halli: Mrbogey: whidbey: Well, they'll be looking back on a surprisingly strong and robust Presidency. That's different.

Wow, what drugs do you take to foster such delusions?

Alphax: violentsalvation: rosebud_the_sled: I can understand Ken Starr's position.  All Conservatives are child molesters, most of them have not confessed yet.

Oh please. "Let's execute the child molesting f*cker and be done with it" is the general conservative position.

But then, It's OK If You Are A Republican.  IOKIYAAR.  Any rule, any law.

Starr is non-partisan despite the derpish claims. He's worked for Democrat child molester Jeffrey Epstein, Blackwater, ACLU, NRA, and Pro-Prop 8.

He's a lawyer if you start assigning motives other than survival to them, you humanize them.

You actually call someone delusional and then claim that Ken Starr is non-partisan?

Just wow.


He's also delusional enough to make the mistake that Starr was acting in a professional capacity as this guy's attorney.  In this situation Starr is pleading with the judge to grant a child rapist community service rather than jail time as a farking character witness.
 
2013-11-16 03:22:01 PM

Fart_Machine: He's also delusional enough to make the mistake that Starr was acting in a professional capacity as this guy's attorney. In this situation Starr is pleading with the judge to grant a child rapist community service rather than jail time as a farking character witness.


That is incorrect and evidence of your own delusion. I never stated he was representing the molester as an attorney. I referenced the incidents where he represented or worked with various people and organizations to highlight his non-partisan nature. Ken Starr "needs" to be a partisan shill for the "Clinton deifiers" crowd to dismiss Clinton's "indiscretions".
 
2013-11-16 04:31:55 PM

Fart_Machine: Halli: Mrbogey: whidbey: Well, they'll be looking back on a surprisingly strong and robust Presidency. That's different.

Wow, what drugs do you take to foster such delusions?

Alphax: violentsalvation: rosebud_the_sled: I can understand Ken Starr's position.  All Conservatives are child molesters, most of them have not confessed yet.

Oh please. "Let's execute the child molesting f*cker and be done with it" is the general conservative position.

But then, It's OK If You Are A Republican.  IOKIYAAR.  Any rule, any law.

Starr is non-partisan despite the derpish claims. He's worked for Democrat child molester Jeffrey Epstein, Blackwater, ACLU, NRA, and Pro-Prop 8.

He's a lawyer if you start assigning motives other than survival to them, you humanize them.

You actually call someone delusional and then claim that Ken Starr is non-partisan?

Just wow.

He's also delusional enough to make the mistake that Starr was acting in a professional capacity as this guy's attorney.  In this situation Starr 's wife is pleading with the judge to grant a child rapist time served + community service rather than jail time as a farking character witness.

 
2013-11-16 04:32:04 PM

Mrbogey: Fart_Machine: He's also delusional enough to make the mistake that Starr was acting in a professional capacity as this guy's attorney. In this situation Starr is pleading with the judge to grant a child rapist community service rather than jail time as a farking character witness.

That is incorrect and evidence of your own delusion. I never stated he was representing the molester as an attorney. I referenced the incidents where he represented or worked with various people and organizations to highlight his non-partisan nature. Ken Starr "needs" to be a partisan shill for the "Clinton deifiers" crowd to dismiss Clinton's "indiscretions".


Yeah so far you've demonstrated that he is a gun for hire, but before that he was appointed by Reagan and was solicitor general for Bush Sr. But it's nice to know he's branching out and supporting community service for child rapists.
 
2013-11-16 04:36:43 PM

utharda: Stile4aly: I attended Potomac for High School with Kloman's son and Ken Starr's son.  In fact, I lived about a half mile from Starr.  I think it's a terrible shame that all this support is being expressed for someone who confessed to these crimes and it reflects very poorly on a school that I really loved.

Mclean was pretty farked up wasn't it.


It took me a little while to figure out the McLean wasn't a representative sample of the universe.  The revelation was so shocking it turned me into a Democrat!
 
2013-11-16 04:49:44 PM

tbeatty: Fart_Machine: Halli: Mrbogey: whidbey: Well, they'll be looking back on a surprisingly strong and robust Presidency. That's different.

Wow, what drugs do you take to foster such delusions?

Alphax: violentsalvation: rosebud_the_sled: I can understand Ken Starr's position.  All Conservatives are child molesters, most of them have not confessed yet.

Oh please. "Let's execute the child molesting f*cker and be done with it" is the general conservative position.

But then, It's OK If You Are A Republican.  IOKIYAAR.  Any rule, any law.

Starr is non-partisan despite the derpish claims. He's worked for Democrat child molester Jeffrey Epstein, Blackwater, ACLU, NRA, and Pro-Prop 8.

He's a lawyer if you start assigning motives other than survival to them, you humanize them.

You actually call someone delusional and then claim that Ken Starr is non-partisan?

Just wow.

He's also delusional enough to make the mistake that Starr was acting in a professional capacity as this guy's attorney.  In this situation Starr 's wife is pleading with the judge to grant a child rapist time served + community service rather than jail time as a farking character witness.


So you're saying that he didnt know what he was signing?
 
2013-11-16 05:32:44 PM

Cataholic: Asking for leniency in sentencing is not the same as asking someone to be freed immediately.  But don't let that get in the way of your rage-on.


So, raping children is okay when it's your side doing it?
 
2013-11-16 05:53:30 PM

tbeatty: He signed a letter his wife wrote asking that 70 y/o man be given community service for crimes that ended 30 years ago.  Sorry if I can't generate poutrage over this.  The butthurt over the definition of 'is' seems to still smolder in certain Democratic circle jerks.


Wife-like typing detected?

Really?

That's what you're going with in defense of a pedo who was empowered with community trust to work with children who got away with child molestation and rape for years?

The false equivalency thing with Clinton thing was dumb enough for one post you didn't hafta totally destroy any semblance of being anything other than an AWing troll by doing that too.
 
2013-11-16 05:55:27 PM

Ed Grubermann: Cataholic: Asking for leniency in sentencing is not the same as asking someone to be freed immediately.  But don't let that get in the way of your rage-on.

So, raping children is okay when it's your side doing it?


Roman Polanski and his side say "Yes."
 
2013-11-16 06:09:35 PM
One of his last gigs was representing tattoo parlors

Classy guy

Off my lawn
 
2013-11-16 06:21:39 PM

tbeatty: Ed Grubermann: Cataholic: Asking for leniency in sentencing is not the same as asking someone to be freed immediately.  But don't let that get in the way of your rage-on.

So, raping children is okay when it's your side doing it?

Roman Polanski and his side say "Yes."


B-b-b-but Polanski!
 
2013-11-16 06:52:04 PM

Fart_Machine: tbeatty: Ed Grubermann: Cataholic: Asking for leniency in sentencing is not the same as asking someone to be freed immediately.  But don't let that get in the way of your rage-on.

So, raping children is okay when it's your side doing it?

Roman Polanski and his side say "Yes."

B-b-b-but Polanski!


I think it's Butt Polanski.
 
2013-11-17 12:27:50 AM
Ken Starr = assus holyitus hugitus...Fn partisan punk. Can't believe pepperdine hired him. What a turd...Should be disbarred and tarred and feathered...Scum f#ck of the first order!
 
2013-11-17 03:14:24 AM

Mrbogey: Fart_Machine: He's also delusional enough to make the mistake that Starr was acting in a professional capacity as this guy's attorney. In this situation Starr is pleading with the judge to grant a child rapist community service rather than jail time as a farking character witness.

That is incorrect and evidence of your own delusion. I never stated he was representing the molester as an attorney. I referenced the incidents where he represented or worked with various people and organizations to highlight his non-partisan nature. Ken Starr "needs" to be a partisan shill for the "Clinton deifiers" crowd to dismiss Clinton's "indiscretions".


God the butthurt really goes deep with you. That was decades ago.
 
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