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(TVLine)   That Walking Dead spinoff? Looks like it will be a prequel   (tvline.com) divider line 90
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2013-11-16 12:03:23 AM  
Yes to the "humans outnumber walkers" part. The thing Walking Dead is missing is the larger community. They were near there with Woodbury and the start of this season, but now everybody's dead again. TWD should continue to be about a group of dysfunctional nomads wandering around, while the spinoff could be about a town or city trying to rebuild.

Not sure I like the prequel idea. We're going to get a whole season of manufactured suspense figuring out which one of the main characters is the one who releases the virus. Yawn.

Either way though, season. 2 will feature characters from one show visiting the other with some lame excuse for how they got there, and then I will stop watching.
 
2013-11-16 12:38:21 AM  
"CARL IS IN MY UTERUS!!"
 
2013-11-16 12:50:04 AM  
i cannot wait until the next advertiser demographic group displaces this zombie bullsh*t with a new idiotic fad

/it's getting way overplayed
//not that the next one will likely be any better
 
2013-11-16 01:27:13 AM  
I hope it turns out that Walt's meth caused the zombies.
 
2013-11-16 01:31:39 AM  
Unless the disease originally had a substantial airborne vector, the plague would have never taken hold like it did.

Ah, who am I kidding.  In TWD world everyone is so mindbogglingly stupid there's no doubt 99% of the idiots-on-steroids population would have been bitten starting from one single patient zero.
 
2013-11-16 01:34:09 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: i cannot wait until the next advertiser demographic group displaces this zombie bullsh*t with a new idiotic fad

/it's getting way overplayed
//not that the next one will likely be any better



Something to do with bacon I bet.
 
2013-11-16 01:34:15 AM  
It sound's like it could be fun the whole break down of society and the learning curve on the head shots.(Guessing wer'e really not gonna get the tanks in the streets and helicopters fighting but well maybe.) In a way I don't even care why the virus was released just was an evil mega corp or something.
 
2013-11-16 01:36:36 AM  

Farker Soze: Unless the disease originally had a substantial airborne vector, the plague would have never taken hold like it did.

Ah, who am I kidding.  In TWD world everyone is so mindbogglingly stupid there's no doubt 99% of the idiots-on-steroids population would have been bitten starting from one single patient zero.


You were being warned about the chem trails and you didn't listen, you just didn't listen, sob.
/Did I do that right ; )
 
2013-11-16 01:39:22 AM  
I'm not sure what the appeal would be for this show since it would be taking place before the zombie apocalypse with different characters.  I suppose it could be interesting to see how it all started, but if they are going for longevity I imagine they would begin the show long before the official start of the apocalypse and then that would be the end of the series.  I'm not sure how interesting that would be.   Even though I love TWD, I'm skeptical of this premise.
 
2013-11-16 01:40:32 AM  
The Toddling Dead?
 
2013-11-16 01:42:28 AM  

fusillade762: The Toddling Dead?


The Walking Living
 
2013-11-16 01:43:26 AM  

voodoowizard: MaudlinMutantMollusk: i cannot wait until the next advertiser demographic group displaces this zombie bullsh*t with a new idiotic fad

/it's getting way overplayed
//not that the next one will likely be any better


Something to do with bacon I bet.


Probably bacon zombies, if my guess is any good

/or zombie bacon
//keeps squealing after it's smoked and wants to eat shelf
 
2013-11-16 01:43:35 AM  
Normal Living People Standing Around? They're going to show old episodes of Seinfeld?
 
2013-11-16 01:48:16 AM  
People will wait around and not do much. Some will make very terrible decisions and end up hosing many others over and then zombies.
 
2013-11-16 02:03:58 AM  

PillsHere: I'm not sure what the appeal would be for this show since it would be taking place before the zombie apocalypse with different characters.  I suppose it could be interesting to see how it all started, but if they are going for longevity I imagine they would begin the show long before the official start of the apocalypse and then that would be the end of the series.  I'm not sure how interesting that would be.   Even though I love TWD, I'm skeptical of this premise.


Well if they go Caprica with it, it will fail and hard but if it's news about crazy attacks on people and no longer being able to kept dead people in the morgue well I wouldn't mind a bit of character building through that. The Walking Dead is a pretty good universe but hell if the main people end up in a shopping mall I'm out.
 
2013-11-16 02:08:59 AM  
I think I'd enjoy a prequel that explores the outbreak in its infancy a lot more than the show I'm watching now. Fighting, panicking, looting, government response and collapse, militias.
 
2013-11-16 02:09:56 AM  
the show will be about the lawnmowers who mow when no one is around

also, kia cleaners
 
2013-11-16 02:14:26 AM  

Omahawg: the show will be about the lawnmowers who mow when no one is around

also, kia cleaners


One of these days you're gonna have to share what you're smoking with me ; )
 
2013-11-16 02:18:16 AM  

violentsalvation: I think I'd enjoy a prequel that explores the outbreak in its infancy a lot more than the show I'm watching now. Fighting, panicking, looting, government response and collapse, militias.


That's what I'm thinking. When Rich walked up from the hospital in the first episode and there were the empty vehicles of the 7th cav.. Now that would be a story.Stuff like that anyway.
 
2013-11-16 02:19:05 AM  
Sorry, Rick^
 
2013-11-16 02:31:46 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: violentsalvation: I think I'd enjoy a prequel that explores the outbreak in its infancy a lot more than the show I'm watching now. Fighting, panicking, looting, government response and collapse, militias.

That's what I'm thinking. When Rick walked up from the hospital in the first episode and there were the empty vehicles of the 7th cav.. Now that would be a story.Stuff like that anyway.


I still watch the show religiously, but it really isn't going anywhere and isn't telling a story other than survival, with a revolving door of characters. I haven't read the comics so maybe something huge is about to happen but this show moves like molasses. I'd like to see the outbreak.
 
2013-11-16 02:40:29 AM  

elguerodiablo: tinfoil-hat maggie: Omahawg: the show will be about the lawnmowers who mow when no one is around

also, kia cleaners

One of these days you're gonna have to share what you're smoking with me ; )

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Alright while I somewhat agree I'm guessing you've never had a lawn of centipede grass and that is what's used in North Georgia. Very slow growing height wise.
 
2013-11-16 02:42:15 AM  

Farker Soze: Unless the disease originally had a substantial airborne vector, the plague would have never taken hold like it did.


In most zombie stories, yeah, this would be an issue.  Transmission only by bite would likely be very inefficient, as the zombies' primary prey is also it's primary predator.  Once humans get a bead on the fact that corpses come back to life to make handy-snacks out of their loved ones, you'd see anyone with a bad case of acne getting a shotgun haircut.

That said, in this universe, EVERYONE is infected.  If you die, for any reason other than a head shot, you're going to come back as a walker.  That's a lot of people getting wiped out in their beds at home when grandpa dies in his sleep and comes for a midnight snack.  You could have a veritable fortress, but if someone dies unnoticed you have another potential outbreak on your hands.
 
2013-11-16 02:48:15 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: violentsalvation: I think I'd enjoy a prequel that explores the outbreak in its infancy a lot more than the show I'm watching now. Fighting, panicking, looting, government response and collapse, militias.

That's what I'm thinking. When Rich walked up from the hospital in the first episode and there were the empty vehicles of the 7th cav.. Now that would be a story.Stuff like that anyway.


That was Darabont's intention for the second season opener: to tell the story of the dead solider in the tank. AMC nixed the idea because it would cost too much.
 
2013-11-16 02:49:28 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Alright while I somewhat agree I'm guessing you've never had a lawn of centipede grass and that is what's used in North Georgia. Very slow growing height wise.


We had that in Virginia, too.  The house we are renting went vacant for a bit.  The tenants moved out, and the lawn company that was supposed to keep taking care of it forgot that in exchange for us paying money, they were supposed to work. for us.  Or, at the very least, mention that they haven't been mowing our lawn for a month.

Even then, though, when we came and it hadn't grown that high.  It was unruly and rightly cited, but it only got to maybe five inches in two months.  If the stuff in Georgia is anything like that vine-crud we had in that yard, I can see it not getting too tall.  It is still immaculately manicured, though, which I never really notice and find pretty damn funny.

But his other point, about the cars being cleaned spotless and indestructible, is always fun to watch. Apparently they aren't allowed to hit any zombies with the cars, or run them over, because they don't want to give everyone the impression that their car can kill, I guess.
 
2013-11-16 02:53:09 AM  

fusillade762: That was Darabont's intention for the second season opener: to tell the story of the dead solider in the tank. AMC nixed the idea because it would cost too much.


So we got the "Drama Farm:  Zombie Edition" reality show instead?  Freaking suits ruin everything cool.
 
2013-11-16 02:55:17 AM  

elguerodiablo: tinfoil-hat maggie: violentsalvation: I think I'd enjoy a prequel that explores the outbreak in its infancy a lot more than the show I'm watching now. Fighting, panicking, looting, government response and collapse, militias.

That's what I'm thinking. When Rich walked up from the hospital in the first episode and there were the empty vehicles of the 7th cav.. Now that would be a story.Stuff like that anyway.

The accompanying novels like "Road to Woodbury" and "rise of the governor" show the outbreak through different characters stories.  If the spinoff is as good as those it'll be pretty cool.  I like your idea a lot, nothing so far has shown how army containment was broken.


Interesting I am going to have to get the comics., etc.. Anyway yeah what was it Day or Dawn of the Dead of 2004 remake the most interesting part was the beginning showing of news footage from across the world. I mean I love zombie movie but I sorta hate the people that make them. Granted it all has to do with budgets and stuff but TWD did pretty good with that virtual herd.
 
2013-11-16 03:16:04 AM  

fusillade762: tinfoil-hat maggie: violentsalvation: I think I'd enjoy a prequel that explores the outbreak in its infancy a lot more than the show I'm watching now. Fighting, panicking, looting, government response and collapse, militias.

That's what I'm thinking. When Rich walked up from the hospital in the first episode and there were the empty vehicles of the 7th cav.. Now that would be a story.Stuff like that anyway.

That was Darabont's intention for the second season opener: to tell the story of the dead solider in the tank. AMC nixed the idea because it would cost too much.


That's sad but I sorta understand, the were just starting out and hell just having all those toys as props was probably pretty expensive with out even running them.
/That is one thing about zombie flicks they're always low budget and well I haven't seen WW Z but I have a feeling it missed it even being big budget.
 
2013-11-16 03:18:07 AM  

elguerodiablo: That I did not know.  Mystery solved!  Scoony Snacks for everybody.


Cheers ; )
 
2013-11-16 03:18:59 AM  
I wish the spinoff would have taken place in like Poland or Russia. A drastic change in scenary and a look at how other countries fared.
 
2013-11-16 03:22:52 AM  

elguerodiablo: tinfoil-hat maggie: elguerodiablo: tinfoil-hat maggie: violentsalvation: I think I'd enjoy a prequel that explores the outbreak in its infancy a lot more than the show I'm watching now. Fighting, panicking, looting, government response and collapse, militias.

That's what I'm thinking. When Rich walked up from the hospital in the first episode and there were the empty vehicles of the 7th cav.. Now that would be a story.Stuff like that anyway.

The accompanying novels like "Road to Woodbury" and "rise of the governor" show the outbreak through different characters stories.  If the spinoff is as good as those it'll be pretty cool.  I like your idea a lot, nothing so far has shown how army containment was broken.

Interesting I am going to have to get the comics., etc.. Anyway yeah what was it Day or Dawn of the Dead of 2004 remake the most interesting part was the beginning showing of news footage from across the world. I mean I love zombie movie but I sorta hate the people that make them. Granted it all has to do with budgets and stuff but TWD did pretty good with that virtual herd.

world War Z the novel was really cool in that it was a collage of the zombie war told by short stories of different characters from around the world at different times during the war.


Yea I read it it was really fun to read that actually, had some of the scope I want from a good zombie story. I've heard the movie is all fast zombie and should have been titled something else but well what ya gonna do.
 
2013-11-16 03:24:10 AM  

hervatski: I wish the spinoff would have taken place in like Poland or Russia. A drastic change in scenary and a look at how other countries fared.


Yeah, and they could give the show a more international name, like . . . World War Z.
 
2013-11-16 03:24:38 AM  
Just when we finally killed off all the annoying characters...
 
2013-11-16 03:27:22 AM  

elguerodiablo: hervatski: I wish the spinoff would have taken place in like Poland or Russia. A drastic change in scenary and a look at how other countries fared.

Super Populated cities like Tokyo or Mexico City would be interesting too.  They'd fall fastest but OMG soooo many Zombies.


Have you seen the flick on Netflix where there are 3 different stories of the end of the world? One of them is Seoul having a zombie outbreak.
/I'd have to look up what it's called and I'm to lazy now.
 
2013-11-16 03:29:05 AM  

doglover: Just when we finally killed off all the annoying characters...


Hey they aren't bringing me on the show be glad.
 
2013-11-16 03:32:50 AM  
Also, how hard is it to turn the tide? Zombies have no tactics and no weapons. They just kind of congregate toward stimuli.

So, use it. Find a nice cliff, and lead a bunch of them off of it. Lure them into fish trap style pens where they get suck and wither. Rain stones at them whenever you have a free moment. And if you get bit, immediately rush to the nearest bunch and take out as many as possible before you're too sick to move.

The original night of the living dead hit this nail on the head. Even if 90% of the world's population was suddenly zombies, the remaining 10% would quickly eliminate them locally, join back up, and more or less eradicate the threat.
 
2013-11-16 03:42:21 AM  
Hey, if TV Line is reporting with an article written by Founder & Editor in Chief Michael Ausiello HIMSELF, you KNOW it's true. There's even TWO pictures of him, so you know he's got the scoop!

We now live in a world where some yutz speculating about something that may or may not happen two years from now on his blog warrants discussion. This sort of thing used to be confined to the gaming room at the local comic book & game store.
 
2013-11-16 03:44:52 AM  

doglover: Also, how hard is it to turn the tide? Zombies have no tactics and no weapons. They just kind of congregate toward stimuli.

So, use it. Find a nice cliff, and lead a bunch of them off of it. Lure them into fish trap style pens where they get suck and wither. Rain stones at them whenever you have a free moment. And if you get bit, immediately rush to the nearest bunch and take out as many as possible before you're too sick to move.

The original night of the living dead hit this nail on the head. Even if 90% of the world's population was suddenly zombies, the remaining 10% would quickly eliminate them locally, join back up, and more or less eradicate the threat.


As the guy that wrote WW Z said everyone with a gun, military, cops etc. are trained to fire center mass. The head shots not so much, Watch the Resident Evil Movie the first one there was a learning curve but most of the team had already died by the time they figured it out.

/And are you talking about the black and white version? Heh, those movies will live forever : )
 
2013-11-16 03:48:12 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: i cannot wait until the next advertiser demographic group displaces this zombie bullsh*t with a new idiotic fad

/it's getting way overplayed
//not that the next one will likely be any better


Betcha anything it will have something to do with space ... like an invasion from... or we get clobbered on Mars or something like that ;)
 
2013-11-16 03:57:04 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: As the guy that wrote WW Z said everyone with a gun, military, cops etc. are trained to fire center mass.


No, they're trained to do the most effective thing against a given target and to follow orders.

Zombies in that show are REALLY slow. You can walk right up to one and shoot it or stab it or even dance with it. That's why Michoyne and Darrel are basically gods. They take advantage of the zomblers as they are instead of trying what used to work.

Thus, if there really was a zombie outbreak, and headshots really were the only cure, you'd see the military and the police etc adapting their strategies, and I don't just mean deploying snipers on rooftops, but actually forming skirmish lines and walking up large groups and sending out volleys at head level.

Instead of hiding them in the ground, you could just mount claymores up on 2x4s and prop them up with cinder blocks. Zombies don't care what they're standing in front of. 500 steel balls at head level would at least get one.
 
2013-11-16 04:07:05 AM  

doglover: tinfoil-hat maggie: As the guy that wrote WW Z said everyone with a gun, military, cops etc. are trained to fire center mass.

No, they're trained to do the most effective thing against a given target and to follow orders.

Zombies in that show are REALLY slow. You can walk right up to one and shoot it or stab it or even dance with it. That's why Michoyne and Darrel are basically gods. They take advantage of the zomblers as they are instead of trying what used to work.

Thus, if there really was a zombie outbreak, and headshots really were the only cure, you'd see the military and the police etc adapting their strategies, and I don't just mean deploying snipers on rooftops, but actually forming skirmish lines and walking up large groups and sending out volleys at head level.

Instead of hiding them in the ground, you could just mount claymores up on 2x4s and prop them up with cinder blocks. Zombies don't care what they're standing in front of. 500 steel balls at head level would at least get one.


Oh yeah the if they only knew, the TWD universe never had zombie lore so... also I,m betting it was a hell-a-va surprise when the biten sick became zombies. What would you do if the way to kill a zombie was through it's left foot or well the heart is way too easy and in that center mass zone.
 
2013-11-16 04:10:42 AM  
The initial full blown outbreak and the destruction of a functioning society is always the best part of every zombie film. It would be interesting if they had a show that focused only on this event but with new characters and story each week, with some occasionally intertwining plot lines.

But a show that is just about the perpetual looming threat of a zombie apocalypse without ever getting there seems pretty lame.
 
2013-11-16 04:27:50 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Oh yeah the if they only knew,


It's not that hard to figure out that some go down and others don't. It takes minutes, tops, before everyone figures it out in an engagement. Especially since most melee weapons aim for the head. When your revolver doesn't work, but they guy with the baton does, you realize "Aim up." works and suddenly one revolver is 6 dead zombies. A pistol is 13. A banana clip is 25. Pop pop pop, watchin' zomblers drop.
 
2013-11-16 04:31:58 AM  

Shadowknight: Farker Soze: Unless the disease originally had a substantial airborne vector, the plague would have never taken hold like it did.

In most zombie stories, yeah, this would be an issue.  Transmission only by bite would likely be very inefficient, as the zombies' primary prey is also it's primary predator.  Once humans get a bead on the fact that corpses come back to life to make handy-snacks out of their loved ones, you'd see anyone with a bad case of acne getting a shotgun haircut.

That said, in this universe, EVERYONE is infected.  If you die, for any reason other than a head shot, you're going to come back as a walker.  That's a lot of people getting wiped out in their beds at home when grandpa dies in his sleep and comes for a midnight snack.  You could have a veritable fortress, but if someone dies unnoticed you have another potential outbreak on your hands.


I sorta disagree with your first point.  How many people would be able to kill a "sick" friend or family member especially in the early going when there would be more hope for a cure?

I agree with the 2nd part.  Add in the non zombie caused death count from rioting, looting and the general breakdown of society and TWD universe should hit critical mass much more quickly than any other "slow zombie" universe.
 
2013-11-16 05:05:51 AM  

doglover: tinfoil-hat maggie: Oh yeah the if they only knew,

It's not that hard to figure out that some go down and others don't. It takes minutes, tops, before everyone figures it out in an engagement. Especially since most melee weapons aim for the head. When your revolver doesn't work, but they guy with the baton does, you realize "Aim up." works and suddenly one revolver is 6 dead zombies. A pistol is 13. A banana clip is 25. Pop pop pop, watchin' zomblers drop.


Sure but in the tent you have a couple of guys that had been bitten and well the fun starts. I think that's in Dairies of the dead 2. Horrible movie BTW.
Any way It's one more no front line kind of war and the dead start pouring out of everywhere so they're fubar.
 
2013-11-16 05:27:22 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: doglover: tinfoil-hat maggie: Oh yeah the if they only knew,

It's not that hard to figure out that some go down and others don't. It takes minutes, tops, before everyone figures it out in an engagement. Especially since most melee weapons aim for the head. When your revolver doesn't work, but they guy with the baton does, you realize "Aim up." works and suddenly one revolver is 6 dead zombies. A pistol is 13. A banana clip is 25. Pop pop pop, watchin' zomblers drop.

Sure but in the tent you have a couple of guys that had been bitten and well the fun starts. I think that's in Dairies of the dead 2. Horrible movie BTW.
Any way It's one more no front line kind of war and the dead start pouring out of everywhere so they're fubar.


Not really. It's only the first few days that are weird. After that, people figure it out and put a stop to it.

And as for killing everyone who gets bitten right there? Insane. That's one thing I never got about Romero movies. No compassion. You give 'em a sick room with nice cozy bed, warm air, and a lock on the door fit for an elephant.
 
2013-11-16 05:30:02 AM  

Farker Soze: Unless the disease originally had a substantial airborne vector, the plague would have never taken hold like it did.

Ah, who am I kidding.  In TWD world everyone is so mindbogglingly stupid there's no doubt 99% of the idiots-on-steroids population would have been bitten starting from one single patient zero.


They are all infected and turn when they die, regardless of cause. That was established in the book and the series already.
 
2013-11-16 05:41:59 AM  

doglover: tinfoil-hat maggie: doglover: tinfoil-hat maggie: Oh yeah the if they only knew,

It's not that hard to figure out that some go down and others don't. It takes minutes, tops, before everyone figures it out in an engagement. Especially since most melee weapons aim for the head. When your revolver doesn't work, but they guy with the baton does, you realize "Aim up." works and suddenly one revolver is 6 dead zombies. A pistol is 13. A banana clip is 25. Pop pop pop, watchin' zomblers drop.

Sure but in the tent you have a couple of guys that had been bitten and well the fun starts. I think that's in Dairies of the dead 2. Horrible movie BTW.
Any way It's one more no front line kind of war and the dead start pouring out of everywhere so they're fubar.

Not really. It's only the first few days that are weird. After that, people figure it out and put a stop to it.

And as for killing everyone who gets bitten right there? Insane. That's one thing I never got about Romero movies. No compassion. You give 'em a sick room with nice cozy bed, warm air, and a lock on the door fit for an elephant.


I'm sorry I just think it would take time and the military that got deployed would be there to protect the population, LOL .
 
2013-11-16 05:44:31 AM  
No zombie film has had the budget to show the breakdown of civilization in any degree of detail. Even TWD used a common device to skip that part. WWZ was supposed to but opted for a ludicrous adventure story.

So why would this spin-off series be able to do it? The main show itself spends entire seasons living in cardboard looking sets. I doubt there will be an investment in more with a spin-off.
 
2013-11-16 06:08:55 AM  
All you have to do is lock yourself up for a few days with enough food and drinks. Zombies will decay, rot and die pretty quickly. Which is why I don't watch the Walking Dead, the idea that so many zombies can last that long is utterly ridiculous.
 
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