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(Yahoo)   Today's Outrage: Burt's Bees apologizes for body lotion that invites catcalls. No Vanilla Flame Body Butter for you   (shine.yahoo.com) divider line 24
    More: Silly, Burt's Bees, Colleen Kiphart, personal care products, objectification  
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9078 clicks; posted to Main » on 15 Nov 2013 at 8:50 PM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-11-15 09:05:26 PM  
6 votes:
"Soak in the moisturizing seductiveness of shea butter and indulge in the scent of vanilla and rice milk. And let the catcalling commence."

If you're offended by that then please kill yourself.
2013-11-15 08:55:49 PM  
6 votes:
I like how women pretend they hate cat calls when most of them spend every second subconsciously trying to look as attractive as possible.
2013-11-15 10:43:52 PM  
4 votes:
Offensive:
upload.wikimedia.org

Not offensive:
l.yimg.com
2013-11-15 11:06:59 PM  
3 votes:
I SO wish one of these companies, when targeted by this sort of "catcalls are violence against women" crap, would just say, in response, "if you find it offensive, don't buy it," and keep going about their business.

Business immediately caves to any vocal lunatic nowadays. If they'd start ignoring these freaks, I think 95% of the time they'd find it has ZERO effect on sales.
2013-11-15 09:23:06 PM  
3 votes:
It's now very common to hear people say 'Im rather offended by that' as if that gives them certain rights; It's actually nothing more...It's simply a whine. It's no more than a whine. 'I find that offensive' it has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that,' well so effing what? - Stephen Fry
2013-11-15 09:03:17 PM  
3 votes:
So catcalling is violence against wymyn now?


Good thing that all the ones that think catcalling is 'violence' are probably the LEAST likely to receive any catcalls.
2013-11-16 12:55:38 AM  
2 votes:
If catcalling is violence against women, then I guess am being RAPED every time men are on a TV shows or commercials are depicted as bumbling, stupid, fat, emotionally-crippled lunkheads.
2013-11-16 12:47:04 AM  
2 votes:
If the world made any sense, the company's response would have been, 'Catcalling is violence? Yeah... how about no. It's a bit of silly labeling, we're trying to sell stuff over here. Later, skater.'
2013-11-16 12:06:13 AM  
2 votes:

The Pumpkin Eater: Women like that make me ashamed to be a woman.
Somebody biatch slap her so she can compare words on a jar to real violence.


THIS, plz,

Apparently this lotion is contraindicated for women with THINskin.

They really just need to add that to the label, leave the other warning in place for the rest of us. Sheesh.
2013-11-16 09:33:33 AM  
1 votes:
Depending on the situation catcalling can be harrassment and it can be scary.  A guy walking by who says "hey beautiful, looking good!" and keeps on walking is nice and most women don't mind that.  Five scuzzy derelicts following you for half a block whooting "hey shawtayy!" and telling you explicitly what sex acts they want from you is terrifying and those situations can sometimes escalate to violence.

Because of the latter, I can see why extremists would want to discourage all catcalling.  It's unsolicited sexual attention which, in the hands of idiots can be excessive and scary.  However, I think it's pretty obvious that Burt's was referring to the former and given that the ad doesn't say "dudes, go out and cat call women" but instead "Chicks, if you want to be catcalled, use our product", I don't understand the outrage.
2013-11-16 02:03:21 AM  
1 votes:
It's not violence, although some catcalls can be considered a verbal sexual assault. Most of the ones I've experienced have been mild "hey baby" type of catcalls that I've just ignored. There have been one or two that were pretty over the top, not because they were overly explicit but because the catcallers seemed to really be looking to pick me out of the crowd specifically to call out to. It was more irritating than anything else, although I did once alter my walking path slightly because I just didn't feel like putting up with it. I know I could have contacted their bosses and gotten them in trouble, but it wasn't that bad and it was more just that I didn't feel like being objectified that specific day. Any other day? Not really a problem.  However there are those who have gotten some fairly explicit catcalling to the point where it'd end up with a possible arrest and a lawsuit if it'd happened anywhere else. Catcalling isn't all wolf whistles and PG-13 rated comments, so I can see where some of the people who have had direct experience with those sort of catcalls would get offended by this.

That said, I don't think that this was particularly offensive. Nah. It's a little stupid, but it's nowhere near the type of advertisement that we really need to be worried about. When we manage to stop companies from using Jon Benet Ramsay-esque models for their adverts, then we should tackle stuff like this.

My only concession will be that considering that Burt's Bees' original customer base used to be predominantly the hippie/earth mother/feminist type of customer, it's a little foolish to not expect one of them to wharrgarbl over a relatively innocuous phrase.
2013-11-16 01:49:45 AM  
1 votes:

aerojockey: Disgruntled Goat: I SO wish one of these companies, when targeted by this sort of "catcalls are violence against women" crap, would just say, in response, "if you find it offensive, don't buy it," and keep going about their business.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 582x263]


And you know what? I have never bought Chick-fil-A. Not once. Never will, either.
2013-11-16 01:31:30 AM  
1 votes:
No worries. Burt's Bees got bought out by Clorox, and Clorox donated a bunch of money to defeat the GMO labeling initiative here in WA.

F*ck 'em. They don't deserve anyone's business.
2013-11-16 01:13:51 AM  
1 votes:

Disgruntled Goat: I SO wish one of these companies, when targeted by this sort of "catcalls are violence against women" crap, would just say, in response, "if you find it offensive, don't buy it," and keep going about their business.


upload.wikimedia.org
2013-11-15 10:26:20 PM  
1 votes:
I don't mind catcalls so much. It's honking that I can't stand. Saying words out loud at least takes an inkling of brains and a smattering of courage or confidence. Good for you for opening your mouth and saying what you're thinking. You may want to work on your technique, but I digress. But honking your farking horn at me and making crude faces and hand gestures? Fark off.
2013-11-15 10:10:46 PM  
1 votes:

fanbladesaresharp: God forbid this lady ever walk into a Victoria's Secret. She'll have a stroke and be firebombing the store.

csb

My current college job is for a 3rd party corporate inventory company. Guess who one of our regular customers is? Yup. VS. After a count one night my GF was in there looking at uh.....stuff....the next day and I was with her. I snuck up behind her and whispered in her ear "I had my hands all over that last night would you like to try it on?".......The farking look on her face was priceless.

/csb


Lol wut?
2013-11-15 10:04:22 PM  
1 votes:
Women like that make me ashamed to be a woman.
Somebody biatch slap her so she can compare words on a jar to real violence.
2013-11-15 10:03:15 PM  
1 votes:

mafiageek1980: Ok, so, people are now equating Catcalling to Violence?! Say what?!

My brain hurts!


Merely looking at a woman in a suggestive manner is the same as anally raping her.
2013-11-15 09:17:38 PM  
1 votes:
"...the company should issue an apology for its nonapology and make a donation to Hollaback or partner with the organization on a campaign to raise awareness of street harassment."

DING DING DING

We have a winnah!
2013-11-15 09:14:15 PM  
1 votes:
This morning the L train was crawling through a construction zone. I glanced up from my book and saw a bundle of lumber hanging from a crane.

Two construction workers on the roadbed held the load steady, waiting for the train to pass so they could unload their lumber.

They had real nice asses. I was checking out the asses on the hardhats. Because they were women.

/CSB
2013-11-15 09:06:31 PM  
1 votes:
Ok, so, people are now equating Catcalling to Violence?! Say what?!

My brain hurts!
2013-11-15 09:02:48 PM  
1 votes:
Are wolf whistles still OK?

imgc.allpostersimages.com
2013-11-15 08:58:18 PM  
1 votes:
My skin is dry, so this thread is relevant to my interests.
2013-11-15 08:52:30 PM  
1 votes:
"First, we apologize if the wording on our Vanilla Flame Body Butter packaging offended anyone. "

So, you decided to go with the non-apology apology? Godspeed.
 
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