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(Yahoo)   Today's Outrage: Burt's Bees apologizes for body lotion that invites catcalls. No Vanilla Flame Body Butter for you   (shine.yahoo.com) divider line 75
    More: Silly, Burt's Bees, Colleen Kiphart, personal care products, objectification  
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2013-11-16 12:55:38 AM  
If catcalling is violence against women, then I guess am being RAPED every time men are on a TV shows or commercials are depicted as bumbling, stupid, fat, emotionally-crippled lunkheads.
 
2013-11-16 12:57:06 AM  
Burt's Bees? What did they say? "Makes you smell like a hippie's vagina"?
 
2013-11-16 01:00:08 AM  
Here's a pic of Ms Overreacting:

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She's probably not used to getting catcalls aimed her way.

/pic taken from here
 
2013-11-16 01:11:40 AM  

Whatthefark: Here's a pic of Ms Overreacting:

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She's probably not used to getting catcalls aimed her way.

/pic taken from here


She isn't ugly. Yet she's not aware of wearing not one but four pearl necklaces? That is naive, or maximum trolling. I'm not sure. Sweety, it's not the catcalling that's your problem, but you seem rather sheltered in your life. Come....let Fark help you get over that. OH don't worry, there's plenty of farkettes here too to keep us in our place.
 
2013-11-16 01:11:42 AM  

ladyfortuna: "First, we apologize if the wording on our Vanilla Flame Body Butter packaging offended anyone. "

So, you decided to go with the non-apology apology? Godspeed.


They shouldn't have to apologize, those people are simply looking to be offended by something, f**k'em.
 
2013-11-16 01:13:51 AM  

Disgruntled Goat: I SO wish one of these companies, when targeted by this sort of "catcalls are violence against women" crap, would just say, in response, "if you find it offensive, don't buy it," and keep going about their business.


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2013-11-16 01:16:55 AM  

The Pumpkin Eater: Women like that make me ashamed to be a woman.
Somebody biatch slap her so she can compare words on a jar to real violence.


This.
 
2013-11-16 01:18:29 AM  
What the label meant was, "once you wear this lotion you'll start cat calling men".  And women were rightfully offended because they didn't want to be violent against men.
 
2013-11-16 01:31:30 AM  
No worries. Burt's Bees got bought out by Clorox, and Clorox donated a bunch of money to defeat the GMO labeling initiative here in WA.

F*ck 'em. They don't deserve anyone's business.
 
2013-11-16 01:49:45 AM  

aerojockey: Disgruntled Goat: I SO wish one of these companies, when targeted by this sort of "catcalls are violence against women" crap, would just say, in response, "if you find it offensive, don't buy it," and keep going about their business.

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And you know what? I have never bought Chick-fil-A. Not once. Never will, either.
 
2013-11-16 01:54:13 AM  

fanbladesaresharp: She isn't ugly. Yet she's not aware of wearing not one but four pearl necklaces?


Once upon a time, pearls and glass beads were sold in longer ropes and doubled up. Also there's a thing called multiple strand.
 
2013-11-16 02:03:21 AM  
It's not violence, although some catcalls can be considered a verbal sexual assault. Most of the ones I've experienced have been mild "hey baby" type of catcalls that I've just ignored. There have been one or two that were pretty over the top, not because they were overly explicit but because the catcallers seemed to really be looking to pick me out of the crowd specifically to call out to. It was more irritating than anything else, although I did once alter my walking path slightly because I just didn't feel like putting up with it. I know I could have contacted their bosses and gotten them in trouble, but it wasn't that bad and it was more just that I didn't feel like being objectified that specific day. Any other day? Not really a problem.  However there are those who have gotten some fairly explicit catcalling to the point where it'd end up with a possible arrest and a lawsuit if it'd happened anywhere else. Catcalling isn't all wolf whistles and PG-13 rated comments, so I can see where some of the people who have had direct experience with those sort of catcalls would get offended by this.

That said, I don't think that this was particularly offensive. Nah. It's a little stupid, but it's nowhere near the type of advertisement that we really need to be worried about. When we manage to stop companies from using Jon Benet Ramsay-esque models for their adverts, then we should tackle stuff like this.

My only concession will be that considering that Burt's Bees' original customer base used to be predominantly the hippie/earth mother/feminist type of customer, it's a little foolish to not expect one of them to wharrgarbl over a relatively innocuous phrase.
 
2013-11-16 02:30:19 AM  
http://www.makers.com/emily-may
// the shakedown artist, she might have been hit with a stick.
 
2013-11-16 04:46:46 AM  
Must be an urban thing. I work with a buncha in-touch-with-your-feelings hipster men and their long suffering women. (who am I kidding? and hipster women). Sadly, if the men ever realized how ironic cat calling would be, the hipster women would prob screw their brains out. Then there would be mewling hipster cubs all under foot. sheesh
 
2013-11-16 05:28:04 AM  
She's complaining that she's received her first tweet disagreeing with her.  I have a feeling that she's soon going to learn what real harassment is.
 
2013-11-16 08:52:28 AM  
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
CATCALLING IS VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN

Newspeak marches on.
 
2013-11-16 09:00:19 AM  
If you have to ask yourself whether or not you're overreacting, YOU ARE.
 
2013-11-16 09:03:43 AM  

ZeroCorpse: If catcalling is violence against women, then I guess am being RAPED every time men are on a TV shows or commercials are depicted as bumbling, stupid, fat, emotionally-crippled lunkheads.


....we're not?
 
2013-11-16 09:33:33 AM  
Depending on the situation catcalling can be harrassment and it can be scary.  A guy walking by who says "hey beautiful, looking good!" and keeps on walking is nice and most women don't mind that.  Five scuzzy derelicts following you for half a block whooting "hey shawtayy!" and telling you explicitly what sex acts they want from you is terrifying and those situations can sometimes escalate to violence.

Because of the latter, I can see why extremists would want to discourage all catcalling.  It's unsolicited sexual attention which, in the hands of idiots can be excessive and scary.  However, I think it's pretty obvious that Burt's was referring to the former and given that the ad doesn't say "dudes, go out and cat call women" but instead "Chicks, if you want to be catcalled, use our product", I don't understand the outrage.
 
2013-11-16 10:44:28 AM  
Body lotion shaming.
 
2013-11-16 01:00:02 PM  

Whatthefark: Here's a pic of Ms Overreacting:

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She's probably not used to getting catcalls aimed her way.

/pic taken from here


Oh come on, you know she'd be totally hot doing Barbara Streisand playing Fanny Brice in Funny Girl cosplay.
 
2013-11-16 01:06:43 PM  
msnbcmedia4.msn.com

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!!
 
2013-11-16 01:13:01 PM  

JohnTuttle: "...the company should issue an apology for its nonapology and make a donation to Hollaback or partner with the organization on a campaign to raise awareness of street harassment."

DING DING DING

We have a winnah!


I really don't see what a French novelist has to do with catcalling or skin care products.
 
2013-11-16 01:56:27 PM  

BolshyGreatYarblocks: [msnbcmedia4.msn.com image 397x273]

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!!


Not sure why you'd drag Ozzy Osborne into a thread about broads, but whatever
 
2013-11-16 02:37:17 PM  
"let the catcalling commence" is tone-deaf culturally. Might've flown in the Mad Men era but not now.

Personally I've always felt that catcalling and wolf-whistling are disrespectful. Do they rise to the level of violence? I suppose it depends on the circumstances. It certainly is invasive when it makes the other person feel harassed and uncomfortable.
 
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