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(Yahoo)   Today's Outrage: Burt's Bees apologizes for body lotion that invites catcalls. No Vanilla Flame Body Butter for you   (shine.yahoo.com) divider line 75
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2013-11-15 08:52:30 PM
"First, we apologize if the wording on our Vanilla Flame Body Butter packaging offended anyone. "

So, you decided to go with the non-apology apology? Godspeed.
 
2013-11-15 08:55:37 PM
My Dad never told me about the Burt's and the Bees
 
2013-11-15 08:55:49 PM
I like how women pretend they hate cat calls when most of them spend every second subconsciously trying to look as attractive as possible.
 
2013-11-15 08:58:18 PM
My skin is dry, so this thread is relevant to my interests.
 
2013-11-15 08:58:18 PM
Fauxrage to sell more plant derived lipid products.
 
2013-11-15 08:58:23 PM
If whistling a catcall is harassment, I would be doing hard time.
It's called a catcall because when you do it, all the hungry p*ssy within earshot comes running.
 
2013-11-15 09:00:19 PM
biatches love the d.
 
2013-11-15 09:02:48 PM
Are wolf whistles still OK?

imgc.allpostersimages.com
 
2013-11-15 09:03:17 PM
So catcalling is violence against wymyn now?


Good thing that all the ones that think catcalling is 'violence' are probably the LEAST likely to receive any catcalls.
 
2013-11-15 09:03:53 PM
media.salon.com
NOW YOU SEE THE VIOLENCE INHERENT IN THE SYSTEM!!!
 
2013-11-15 09:05:26 PM
"Soak in the moisturizing seductiveness of shea butter and indulge in the scent of vanilla and rice milk. And let the catcalling commence."

If you're offended by that then please kill yourself.
 
2013-11-15 09:06:31 PM
Ok, so, people are now equating Catcalling to Violence?! Say what?!

My brain hurts!
 
2013-11-15 09:06:33 PM

Kriggerel: So catcalling is violence against wymyn now?


Good thing that all the ones that think catcalling is 'violence' are probably the LEAST likely to receive any catcalls.


From the Hollaback site

HOLLA ON THE GO: "That smile was for me, and I want to reclaim it!"

My old neighborhood, the slopes, was awful for street harassment!
One of the worst was when I was having a bad day, trying to keep to myself on the street, and finally perked up and smiled looking at a friendly text, and someone yelled from their car that I had a beautiful smile and was gorgeous.
He probably thought he was being so nice, but that smile was for me, and I want to reclaim it!!
I've got your back!
8+
 
2013-11-15 09:12:49 PM

Ryker's Peninsula: If whistling a catcall is harassment, I would be doing hard time.
It's called a catcall because when you do it, all the hungry p*ssy within earshot comes running.


She said it was violence against women, not just harassment. Sounds like you need to step up your game.

/never really found catcalls that offensive, what is the big deal
 
2013-11-15 09:14:15 PM
This morning the L train was crawling through a construction zone. I glanced up from my book and saw a bundle of lumber hanging from a crane.

Two construction workers on the roadbed held the load steady, waiting for the train to pass so they could unload their lumber.

They had real nice asses. I was checking out the asses on the hardhats. Because they were women.

/CSB
 
2013-11-15 09:14:59 PM
what does Gwen Stefani think about this, because she aint no holla back girl
 
2013-11-15 09:15:41 PM
FTA: "I was offended but didn't know if I was overreacting, so I tweeted to Hollaback [ an anti-street-harassment group ] for perspective."

If that is where you are going for perspective, you have already lost.

FTA: The organization ... respond[ed]: "WHOA. ... are you interested in starting a petition?"

Shocka! .. Wait, I am sorry for my violent outburst there.
 
2013-11-15 09:17:38 PM
"...the company should issue an apology for its nonapology and make a donation to Hollaback or partner with the organization on a campaign to raise awareness of street harassment."

DING DING DING

We have a winnah!
 
2013-11-15 09:22:47 PM

ladyfortuna: "First, we apologize if the wording on our Vanilla Flame Body Butter packaging offended anyone. "

So, you decided to go with the non-apology apology? Godspeed.


Yeah, but to be fair it's kind of ridiculous that they'd need to apologize for that in the first place.
 
2013-11-15 09:23:06 PM
It's now very common to hear people say 'Im rather offended by that' as if that gives them certain rights; It's actually nothing more...It's simply a whine. It's no more than a whine. 'I find that offensive' it has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that,' well so effing what? - Stephen Fry
 
2013-11-15 09:23:09 PM
Classless? Yes. Violent? I don't think that they have ever dealt with actual violence.
 
2013-11-15 09:26:32 PM
I have to say when having a bad day hearing a cat call made me smile. It my confidence that i was looking nice.
 
2013-11-15 09:27:14 PM

Anthracite: I have to say when having a bad day hearing a cat call made me smile. It boostedmy confidence that i was looking nice.


FIFM
 
2013-11-15 09:27:34 PM
Are there places in the country I haven't heard about where women are regularly whipped with cat-tails on the street?  And is it possible that these "Hollaback" (seriously?) people are confusing catcalls and cat-o-nine tails?

FTA: May adds that the company should issue an apology for its nonapology and make a donation to Hollaback...

HA!  You know what, I'm offended that you're offended, and I want a goddamned apology and a nice "donation" for myself as well, you feeble-minded twat, how's that?  AND IT HAD BETTER BE A GOOD GODDAMNED APOLOGY!  YOU'D BETTER BE SORRY AND MEAN IT!

/I'll expect my check made out to ten foiled hats, sent c/o Fark
 
2013-11-15 09:30:19 PM
Not the Burt's Bees!!!!
blogs.wickedlocal.com
 
2013-11-15 09:37:44 PM
really lady? get over it, if all a guys does and whistle makes a few comments its because your looking good.

/not a male chauvinist just a realist.
 
2013-11-15 09:41:18 PM
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-11-15 09:47:10 PM
God forbid this lady ever walk into a Victoria's Secret. She'll have a stroke and be firebombing the store.

csb

My current college job is for a 3rd party corporate inventory company. Guess who one of our regular customers is? Yup. VS. After a count one night my GF was in there looking at uh.....stuff....the next day and I was with her. I snuck up behind her and whispered in her ear "I had my hands all over that last night would you like to try it on?".......The farking look on her face was priceless.

/csb
 
2013-11-15 09:53:23 PM

Anthracite: I have to say when having a bad day hearing a cat call made me smile. It my confidence that i was looking nice.


2.bp.blogspot.com
"HEY SWEETCHEEKS! YOU LOOKIN' HOT IN THAT SKIRT - I LIKE THE WAY YOU SHAKE IT, BABY! HOW YA LIKE MY TOOL? IT'S NICE AND HARD LIKE I KNOW YOU LIKE IT!"
 
2013-11-15 10:03:15 PM

mafiageek1980: Ok, so, people are now equating Catcalling to Violence?! Say what?!

My brain hurts!


Merely looking at a woman in a suggestive manner is the same as anally raping her.
 
2013-11-15 10:04:22 PM
Women like that make me ashamed to be a woman.
Somebody biatch slap her so she can compare words on a jar to real violence.
 
2013-11-15 10:10:46 PM

fanbladesaresharp: God forbid this lady ever walk into a Victoria's Secret. She'll have a stroke and be firebombing the store.

csb

My current college job is for a 3rd party corporate inventory company. Guess who one of our regular customers is? Yup. VS. After a count one night my GF was in there looking at uh.....stuff....the next day and I was with her. I snuck up behind her and whispered in her ear "I had my hands all over that last night would you like to try it on?".......The farking look on her face was priceless.

/csb


Lol wut?
 
2013-11-15 10:16:48 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-11-15 10:19:50 PM

Deedeemarz: Ryker's Peninsula: If whistling a catcall is harassment, I would be doing hard time.
It's called a catcall because when you do it, all the hungry p*ssy within earshot comes running.

She said it was violence against women, not just harassment. Sounds like you need to step up your game.

/never really found catcalls that offensive, what is the big deal


Catcalls are harassment, wolf whistles are violence against women.  I'd never stoop that low even to pickpocket a midget.
 
2013-11-15 10:26:20 PM
I don't mind catcalls so much. It's honking that I can't stand. Saying words out loud at least takes an inkling of brains and a smattering of courage or confidence. Good for you for opening your mouth and saying what you're thinking. You may want to work on your technique, but I digress. But honking your farking horn at me and making crude faces and hand gestures? Fark off.
 
2013-11-15 10:28:32 PM

DrSandyBeech: It's now very common to hear people say 'Im rather offended by that' as if that gives them certain rights; It's actually nothing more...It's simply a whine. It's no more than a whine. 'I find that offensive' it has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that,' well so effing what? - Stephen Fry


I love it when the people who flaunt this quote inevitably find themselves insulted by somebody else. Even funnier when they speak out against it.
 
2013-11-15 10:29:59 PM

like the fisting of an angry god: fanbladesaresharp: God forbid this lady ever walk into a Victoria's Secret. She'll have a stroke and be firebombing the store.

csb

My current college job is for a 3rd party corporate inventory company. Guess who one of our regular customers is? Yup. VS. After a count one night my GF was in there looking at uh.....stuff....the next day and I was with her. I snuck up behind her and whispered in her ear "I had my hands all over that last night would you like to try it on?".......The farking look on her face was priceless.

/csb

Lol wut?


His gluten-free has a face on the back of her head, pay attention!
 
2013-11-15 10:36:24 PM
Anne.U,These honkers are assuming you are a street hooker.
 
2013-11-15 10:43:52 PM
Offensive:
upload.wikimedia.org

Not offensive:
l.yimg.com
 
2013-11-15 10:55:20 PM

like the fisting of an angry god: fanbladesaresharp: God forbid this lady ever walk into a Victoria's Secret. She'll have a stroke and be firebombing the store.

csb

My current college job is for a 3rd party corporate inventory company. Guess who one of our regular customers is? Yup. VS. After a count one night my GF was in there looking at uh.....stuff....the next day and I was with her. I snuck up behind her and whispered in her ear "I had my hands all over that last night would you like to try it on?".......The farking look on her face was priceless.

/csb

Lol wut?


It was more a WTF? First....then a LOL wut? Then things got wierd.(she was looking at bras)
 
2013-11-15 11:06:59 PM
I SO wish one of these companies, when targeted by this sort of "catcalls are violence against women" crap, would just say, in response, "if you find it offensive, don't buy it," and keep going about their business.

Business immediately caves to any vocal lunatic nowadays. If they'd start ignoring these freaks, I think 95% of the time they'd find it has ZERO effect on sales.
 
2013-11-15 11:13:16 PM
FTFA: Güd, a division of Burt's Bees, had discontinued its Vanilla Flame Body Butter in January; however, remaining stock was placed in the outlet section of its website and is still being sold via other retailers. The controversial label reads, "Soak in the moisturizing seductiveness of shea butter and indulge in the scent of vanilla and rice milk. And let the catcalling commence."

On Thursday, 29-year-old Colleen Kiphart, a communications expert (she declined to provide her city and state), who bought the Vanilla Flame Body Butter, tweeted an excerpt from the label to Hollaback, an anti-street-harassment group and this message: "On my @gudhappens is @burtsbees body butter. Catcalling is a violence against women." She tells Yahoo Shine, "I was offended but didn't know if I was overreacting, so I tweeted to Hollaback for perspective."



1) Catcalling -- while perhaps a bit crude or ill-mannered -- is NOT a "violence against women."

2) Colleen Kiphart, sweetie, you ARE overreacting.

This was a mild joke made on the label of a product. It amazes me that -- of all people -- a so-called "communications expert" doesn't get that. I take it this woman doesn't have much of a sense of humor. She must be a blast at parties. I can imagine that her relationships with men don't last very long. Someone like her would require her men to walk on eggshells all the time, something most well-adjusted guys really don't want to do.
 
2013-11-15 11:20:50 PM
Maybe one of should send her an Adam & Eve catalog and see what she writes next.
 
2013-11-15 11:51:03 PM
Catcalling is a violence against women.

Christ. White women need better hobbies.
 
2013-11-16 12:06:13 AM

The Pumpkin Eater: Women like that make me ashamed to be a woman.
Somebody biatch slap her so she can compare words on a jar to real violence.


THIS, plz,

Apparently this lotion is contraindicated for women with THINskin.

They really just need to add that to the label, leave the other warning in place for the rest of us. Sheesh.
 
2013-11-16 12:13:48 AM
Another fine Lysol product.
 
2013-11-16 12:20:03 AM
29-year-old Colleen Kiphart, a communications expert (she declined to provide her city and state), who bought the Vanilla Flame Body Butter, tweeted an excerpt from the label to Hollaback, an anti-street-harassment group and this message: "On my @gudhappens is @burtsbees body butter. Catcalling is a violence against women."

Not sure why she declined to give her city and state when a quick search on Twitter shows which city she's in.  And that she apparently considers herself to be Wonder Woman because she tweeted hyperbolic statements.

It's laughably over the top statements like "catcalling is violence" that makes people have trouble taking feminists seriously.

I'd suggest reading The Boy Who Cried Wolf to learn the lesson the story teaches, but that's probably misogynistic of me because the protagonist is male or something...
 
2013-11-16 12:32:37 AM

mongbiohazard: ladyfortuna: "First, we apologize if the wording on our Vanilla Flame Body Butter packaging offended anyone. "

So, you decided to go with the non-apology apology? Godspeed.

Yeah, but to be fair it's kind of ridiculous that they'd need to apologize for that in the first place.


Perhaps, but it bothers me when a person/company/whatever uses something insincere and blame shifting like that. Either own it, or make a real apology, asshats.

/do not like catcalls
//they make me feel stabby
///which may be why it doesn't really happen to me... I think they can sense it.
 
2013-11-16 12:47:04 AM
If the world made any sense, the company's response would have been, 'Catcalling is violence? Yeah... how about no. It's a bit of silly labeling, we're trying to sell stuff over here. Later, skater.'
 
2013-11-16 12:49:03 AM
I assume "Colleen Kiphart" is a master-level troll.
 
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