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2013-11-15 08:39:10 PM
Wouldn't the plane's insurance cover this?
 
2013-11-15 10:41:08 PM
No bogus. Completely fair. The cops provided him a service and he should pay for it.  Why should the taxpayers cover this?

Not to mention that if the dude is rich enough to have a plane I am fairly sure $3k isn't going to bankrupt him.
 
2013-11-15 10:43:39 PM
When your car breaks down you have to pay the $50 or so for a tow truck, if you own a plane you should realize that your liability increases.  The idea that they didn't let him repair and take off from the road and that should excuse him from the responsibility is just him not thinking.  Sometimes doing the right thing means paying a price for it.  Everyone walked away unharmed and he had to pay $4k. So sad, but worth it.
 
2013-11-15 10:43:46 PM
Wait...at the end of the story was he implying that he was intending to use the highway as runway to take off again?
 
2013-11-15 10:44:02 PM
So how long until the PA DOT sends him a ticket for parking a vehicle on the highway (in addition to the bill for having Staties stand around and look at the plane) just to spite him?
 
2013-11-15 10:44:31 PM
0.1% problems
 
2013-11-15 10:45:31 PM
Subby is an idiot.
 
2013-11-15 10:47:05 PM
Wow I didn't expect a thread full of 47% haters to show up. But this is farkanistan
 
2013-11-15 10:47:39 PM
FTFA: "I had a propeller there. I had a mechanic there. I could've been in out of that area in 15 minutes," he said.

Should have done just that then...
 
2013-11-15 10:48:02 PM
He should of had E-ZPass.
 
2013-11-15 10:49:17 PM

wademh: Subby is an idiot.


Since when is the PA Turnpike a rural highway?

/and subby is an idiot
 
2013-11-15 10:51:28 PM
And I'm pretty sure that American Airlines, or what ever company Sully was employed by, got a pretty big bill from the state.

You sir got the bill because you are a private pilot and not employed by a corporation.
 
2013-11-15 10:51:39 PM

An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name: Wow I didn't expect a thread full of 47% haters to show up. But this is farkanistan


And what, exactly, does this have to do with a guy making an emergency landing on a highway and getting billed for it?
 
2013-11-15 10:51:40 PM
Rich douche who endangered others with his insufficiently maintained, antique toy says what?
 
2013-11-15 10:52:12 PM

moike: FTFA: "I had a propeller there. I had a mechanic there. I could've been in out of that area in 15 minutes," he said.

Should have done just that then...


I think his point was that the cops wouldn't let him.  He apparently thought he could just use the highway for his take off.  Since the highway isn't designed for that and since the cops and city/state would be buried in lawsuits if anything were to happen during his take-off the cops were quite right to nix that idea.
 
2013-11-15 10:52:49 PM
Right...putting your 2-person, single engine prop plane down on a highway is comparable to bringing a crippled Airbus A320 down in the water and saving 155 lives.

And who the fark says "bogus" anymore?
 
2013-11-15 10:54:05 PM

Ima4nic8or: moike: FTFA: "I had a propeller there. I had a mechanic there. I could've been in out of that area in 15 minutes," he said.

Should have done just that then...

I think his point was that the cops wouldn't let him.  He apparently thought he could just use the highway for his take off.  Since the highway isn't designed for that and since the cops and city/state would be buried in lawsuits if anything were to happen during his take-off the cops were quite right to nix that idea.


Laws and public safety regulations don't apply to him because he can afford his own plane.
 
2013-11-15 10:56:05 PM

King Something: An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name: Wow I didn't expect a thread full of 47% haters to show up. But this is farkanistan

And what, exactly, does this have to do with a guy making an emergency landing on a highway and getting billed for it?


Everyone so far in this thread is saying he's rich so fark him. Now the question is did they call anyone of normal duty to come cover this massive problem. Or did 30 bored already bein paid city workers show up to excabberate the problem?? Had he fixed his plane an been out in 15, was the necessary several hours on the ground necessary or people looking for overtime
 
2013-11-15 10:56:28 PM

Ima4nic8or: moike: FTFA: "I had a propeller there. I had a mechanic there. I could've been in out of that area in 15 minutes," he said.

Should have done just that then...

I think his point was that the cops wouldn't let him.  He apparently thought he could just use the highway for his take off.  Since the highway isn't designed for that and since the cops and city/state would be buried in lawsuits if anything were to happen during his take-off the cops were quite right to nix that idea.


Yeah, that's not uncommon. The flight school I work beside had a plane make a forced landing in a field, they fixed the plane, moved it onto a road and just departed from there.

If you start charging people for making forced landings on roads people aren't going to want to do it and they'll try and pick another spot. This'll just result in a fatal crash but on Fark that doesn't matter because they're 'rich' and deserve to die.
 
2013-11-15 10:57:29 PM
Sucks he didn't burn alive in the crash, piece of shiat
 
2013-11-15 10:57:41 PM
Ima4nic8or:

Not to mention that if the dude is rich enough to have a plane I am fairly sure $3k isn't going to bankrupt him.

Most people own cars that are worth more than a 5th+ owner Cesna.
 
2013-11-15 10:58:39 PM
This is not a 1%er plane, it was made in 1946. It looks like a plane that could be maintained for very reasonable costs. Some people put their money in cars, houses and drinking, this guy put his in a plane.
 
2013-11-15 11:03:37 PM

J Noble Daggett: wademh: Subby is an idiot.

Since when is the PA Turnpike a rural highway?

/and subby is an idiot


PA 43 is a toll road and part of the PTC.  Check out this map.  It's the the Southwest corner of the estate.  Since this is FARK, that would be the lower left hand part of the map for the rest of you.
http://www.paturnpike.com/pdf/PA_Turnpike_System_Map_Color_final.pdf
 
2013-11-15 11:03:52 PM

An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name: King Something: An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name: Wow I didn't expect a thread full of 47% haters to show up. But this is farkanistan


Fess up subby
 
2013-11-15 11:04:48 PM
TFA: "The decision to prohibit the pilot from taking off on the turnpike was made in the interest of customer safety and also because of the additional costs we would have incurred to shut down the road in both directions during takeoff."


Bollocks. (a) The road was already shut down, (b) that plane needs about 750 feet of road to take off and another 4,000 -- tops -- to get a couple of hundred feet in the air, well out of threat range of any car. They would have needed to shut down a total of one mile of road, which was not "additional".
 
2013-11-15 11:05:48 PM

LemSkroob: Ima4nic8or:

Not to mention that if the dude is rich enough to have a plane I am fairly sure $3k isn't going to bankrupt him.

Most people own cars that are worth more than a 5th+ owner Cesna.


THIS ^

The Piper Warrior II (PA 28-151)  4 seat single engine plane I trained in regularly goes for 28-30 thousand. Or, about the same as that truck you just signed up to make payments on.
 
2013-11-15 11:06:41 PM

An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name: Everyone so far in this thread is saying he's rich so fark him.


Oh? Only two or three posts so far in this thread are of the "He got his? F*ck him!" variety, and none were before you started lambasting them.
 
2013-11-15 11:08:53 PM
I don't think taking off from a highway would have been a good idea, just from a liability standpoint.  I mean, when you have a normal runway, they do tons of surveys to make sure that there isn't anything like power lines, trees, radio towers, etc. that would get even remotely close to getting in the way.  The guy  could have gotten the plane out of there in 15 minutes, but it probably wasn't the safest, smartest, or most legally sound choice at the time.
 
2013-11-15 11:09:44 PM

Ima4nic8or: moike: FTFA: "I had a propeller there. I had a mechanic there. I could've been in out of that area in 15 minutes," he said.

Should have done just that then...

I think his point was that the cops wouldn't let him.  He apparently thought he could just use the highway for his take off.  Since the highway isn't designed for that and since the cops and city/state would be buried in lawsuits if anything were to happen during his take-off the cops were quite right to nix that idea.


The road wasn't designed for trucks pulling doubles or cars built after 1965, yet they get used for that.

Also, the government could easily have immunity in that case. This is a case of someone needing kickbacks.
 
2013-11-15 11:11:49 PM

LemSkroob: Ima4nic8or:

Not to mention that if the dude is rich enough to have a plane I am fairly sure $3k isn't going to bankrupt him.

Most people own cars that are worth more than a 5th+ owner Cesna.


But not a 1946 Stinson. The plane was on one shoulder, and they were steering cars around it in the other lane. They would have had to clear the backed-up traffic for more than a mile in one direction, and hold up traffic in the other, before he could have taken off. And why would you trust him that "Hey, it was just a busted propeller, all good now!"  I don't wish ill on people who have expensive toys, but it gets really tiresome when they biatch about paying for inconveniencing the rest of us when something goes wrong with them.
 
2013-11-15 11:12:29 PM

tetsoushima: I don't think taking off from a highway would have been a good idea, just from a liability standpoint.  I mean, when you have a normal runway, they do tons of surveys to make sure that there isn't anything like power lines, trees, radio towers, etc. that would get even remotely close to getting in the way.  The guy  could have gotten the plane out of there in 15 minutes, but it probably wasn't the safest, smartest, or most legally sound choice at the time.


It's the Mon-Fayette expressway. There are no power lines or radio towers. Hell, trees don't grow on the piles of mine tailings that line the sides of it. That part of PA is pretty much west virginia. It used to be pretty but is not anymore.
 
2013-11-15 11:12:35 PM

washington-babylon: LemSkroob: Ima4nic8or:

Not to mention that if the dude is rich enough to have a plane I am fairly sure $3k isn't going to bankrupt him.

Most people own cars that are worth more than a 5th+ owner Cesna.

THIS ^

The Piper Warrior II (PA 28-151)  4 seat single engine plane I trained in regularly goes for 28-30 thousand. Or, about the same as that truck you just signed up to make payments on.


Apparently you can pick up one of the same plane as this guy was flying for less than that.
 
2013-11-15 11:15:52 PM

mbillips: LemSkroob: Ima4nic8or:

Not to mention that if the dude is rich enough to have a plane I am fairly sure $3k isn't going to bankrupt him.

Most people own cars that are worth more than a 5th+ owner Cesna.

But not a 1946 Stinson. The plane was on one shoulder, and they were steering cars around it in the other lane. They would have had to clear the backed-up traffic for more than a mile in one direction, and hold up traffic in the other, before he could have taken off. And why would you trust him that "Hey, it was just a busted propeller, all good now!"  I don't wish ill on people who have expensive toys, but it gets really tiresome when they biatch about paying for inconveniencing the rest of us when something goes wrong with them.


Somebody important must have been in traffic. Usual response to anything more severe than a roadkilled deer is met with "shut down everything" in Pennsylvania.

/should have just taken off
//how would they pull him over?
 
2013-11-15 11:20:41 PM
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You know what's heroic? Not crashing the plane.
 
2013-11-15 11:21:44 PM
PA isn't a state, it's a commonwealth!
 
2013-11-15 11:22:23 PM

washington-babylon: LemSkroob: Ima4nic8or:

Not to mention that if the dude is rich enough to have a plane I am fairly sure $3k isn't going to bankrupt him.

Most people own cars that are worth more than a 5th+ owner Cesna.

THIS ^

The Piper Warrior II (PA 28-151)  4 seat single engine plane I trained in regularly goes for 28-30 thousand. Or, about the same as that truck you just signed up to make payments on.


Ok, so maybe all planes are not horrendously expensive.  More than any car I have ever bought but 30k is certainly within reach of an average Joe.

That said, I haven't had a car payment in over 5 years and am not the truck owning type.  At this point in my life I plan to only pay cash for any cars I need to buy. If I had 30k to spend on a car I would buy a used Corolla for 10k and save the rest.
 
2013-11-15 11:24:23 PM
Looked like he ended up with the plane on the shoulder, out of the traffic flow.  Why not let traffic move until he's had his mechanic install a new prop and inspect the plane?  The only "risk to public safety" is idiots rubbernecking and they do that to see people getting tickets and nobody seems to care.

When the plane is ready to fly, THEN you have cops stop traffic, he takes off, and you let the cars move again.  I'm guessing that plane could be airborn after about a 30-second takeoff roll.  They would have had to hold traffic for what, five entire minutes? 

Instead, they made him take the plane apart, and haul it out by truck, probably had rubberneckers gawking all day, then billed him for the trouble.

They can't write him a ticket for landing on the road because it's not against the law in an emergency.  So they beat him up every other possible way.

Nice guys.

In an emergency, you land wherever you can do so safely.  He did the right thing, and survived.

Him getting taken to the cleaners for it is legal, but seems not really within the spirit of the law.
 
2013-11-15 11:24:25 PM
The guy is not a 1%er.

From George Babbitt links same plane but a year newer.

FOR SALE
1947 Stinson 108-1. 165HP Heavy Case Franklin 6-Cylinder (All AD's complied with) 1552.3 Hours Tach Time

160.0 SMOH (including Generator, Starter, Both Mufflers and shrouds) Peterson Auto Fuel STC King KX-145 720ch. Narco AT50 Transponder Ameriking Encoder 4-Place Intercom with 3-headsets New Main and Tailwheel Tires Spare Prop (Needs refinishing) Original Wheel Pants and Owners Manual ALL AD's COMPLIED WITH

Metalized in early 1950's and 150HP removed and replaced with 165HP in mid 1960's. (All paint except wings now stripped) $15,000 firm.


I place my bets most farkers have cars/trucks that cost more sitting in there driveway or garage.
 
2013-11-15 11:24:29 PM

UseLessHuman: When your car breaks down you have to pay the $50 or so for a tow truck, if you own a plane you should realize that your liability increases.  The idea that they didn't let him repair and take off from the road and that should excuse him from the responsibility is just him not thinking.  Sometimes doing the right thing means paying a price for it.  Everyone walked away unharmed and he had to pay $4k. So sad, but worth it.


Then you'll be fine with your $3,000 bill from the state when you have a car accident that blocks the road?
 
2013-11-15 11:27:12 PM

Ima4nic8or: No bogus. Completely fair. The cops provided him a service and he should pay for it.  Why should the taxpayers cover this?

Not to mention that if the dude is rich enough to have a plane I am fairly sure $3k isn't going to bankrupt him.


HAHAHAHAHA
Pilot here. Poor. Plane keeps you that way. Or makes you that way, if you had any $$ to begin with.
/my Piper Comanche cost me 26k in 1990...it's now 50 y.o.
//the 1989 T-bird cost me 22k new
///haven't bought a new car since. But the plane is in top shape.
 
2013-11-15 11:29:31 PM
Roads are considered emergency landing strips by pilots.  I have seen planes that have had to land on a roadway -- the highway patrol has blocked the road for a few minutes and the plane has been allowed to take off.  I circumnavigated the US in my C-150 I would not have hesitated to land on a roadway.
 
2013-11-15 11:32:48 PM

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: UseLessHuman: When your car breaks down you have to pay the $50 or so for a tow truck, if you own a plane you should realize that your liability increases.  The idea that they didn't let him repair and take off from the road and that should excuse him from the responsibility is just him not thinking.  Sometimes doing the right thing means paying a price for it.  Everyone walked away unharmed and he had to pay $4k. So sad, but worth it.

Then you'll be fine with your $3,000 bill from the state when you have a car accident that blocks the road?


A car accident doesn't require half the police force to show up to stop the farkhole from leaving the scene.  And, you DO get a bill after an accident.  Who do you think cleans up the debris?  Magic fairies? Well, magic fairies don't work for free so someone pays for their time and it's NOT the city.
 
2013-11-15 11:33:50 PM
Nicholson said he fears a decision by the turnpike to charge him for the landing will send the wrong message to other pilots.

lol
 
2013-11-15 11:34:15 PM

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: UseLessHuman: When your car breaks down you have to pay the $50 or so for a tow truck, if you own a plane you should realize that your liability increases.  The idea that they didn't let him repair and take off from the road and that should excuse him from the responsibility is just him not thinking.  Sometimes doing the right thing means paying a price for it.  Everyone walked away unharmed and he had to pay $4k. So sad, but worth it.

Then you'll be fine with your $3,000 bill from the state when you have a car accident that blocks the road?


No, because I'm using the road as it's designed. If the accident was my fault, I'm probably going to be paying a lot more than $3k in out of pocket and higher insurance premiums.This guy was playing with his toy, and put it down where it didn't belong. It's no different from somebody being rescued when mountain climbing; they often get a bill, too. Light planes are relatively cheap (less so when you consider fuel, maintenance and hangaring), but if you stint on maintenance and cause a big mess, you should be held responsible for that.
 
2013-11-15 11:35:32 PM
From the companion article...

"He did an amazing job. We were dodging signs, wires, oncoming traffic, tanker trucks and bridge overpasses," passenger John Armell said.

oncoming farking traffic.  Not only should he have to pay, he should reimburse everyone who soiled their pants seeing a plane coming straight at them
 
2013-11-15 11:37:41 PM
Nicholson said he fears a decision by the turnpike to charge him for the landing will send the wrong message to other pilots.

Yep, now when the next pilot has a mechanical problem in HIS plane, he's going to think about landing on a highway, remember that this guy got billed for doing that, and then just nosedive into a pre-school.

Thanks Obama.
 
2013-11-15 11:38:44 PM

arkansized: HAHAHAHAHA
Pilot here. Poor. Plane keeps you that way. Or makes you that way, if you had any $$ to begin with.


"If it flies, floats, or f*cks it's cheaper to rent it."
 
2013-11-15 11:45:06 PM
"How we're handling this is no different than how we handle similar accidents involving a car or truck, and it's comparable to processes used by other highway operators. "

I dunno..   When I get a flat tire, I change it my damn self, and get outta there...
 
2013-11-15 11:52:56 PM
WOW... It's going to send a message it might cause 3k and people will seek other alternatives.

That is just stupid.  That is like saying i hear that ambulance rides cost 2k so it send a message to others just to decline the ride.

If you are about die you do what ever the fark it takes to survive.  You don't worry about the bill.

I bet the survivors who shat themselves would gladly pay the 3k "landing fee."
 
2013-11-15 11:55:42 PM

Watubi: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: UseLessHuman: When your car breaks down you have to pay the $50 or so for a tow truck, if you own a plane you should realize that your liability increases.  The idea that they didn't let him repair and take off from the road and that should excuse him from the responsibility is just him not thinking.  Sometimes doing the right thing means paying a price for it.  Everyone walked away unharmed and he had to pay $4k. So sad, but worth it.

Then you'll be fine with your $3,000 bill from the state when you have a car accident that blocks the road?

A car accident doesn't require half the police force to show up to stop the farkhole from leaving the scene.  And, you DO get a bill after an accident.  Who do you think cleans up the debris?  Magic fairies? Well, magic fairies don't work for free so someone pays for their time and it's NOT the city.


How was he a farkhole? He had a mechanical issue. Oh, right, you're one of those who fellates the highwaymen with letters of Marque that can do no wrong.

When I broke down on 79, neither I or my boss got a bill from the state for the truck being on the side of the road on a blind curve, with 9' of shoulder to park a truck that's 8'6" wide. When I lost a wheel bearing in my Kia the 'pike didn't bill me for the Safety Patrol vehicle that sat there for an hour waiting for the towtruck to arrive.

This was an issue of "scene command" being related to the towing company ownership. Happens all the time, especially to Democrats who break down outside the city.
 
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