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(Uproxx)   Terrence Howard now blames Robert Downey Jr. for his being cut from Iron Man. Next time, baby   (uproxx.com) divider line 118
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2013-11-15 02:34:33 PM  
I think it's a case of him and Don Cheadle having dueling agents.
 
2013-11-15 03:00:41 PM  
Terrence Howard is a good actor eith a healthy carreer, I dont see his career as being "killed". He just wont make as much money as he wanted.

Im sure he has plenty from Iron Man 1.
 
2013-11-15 03:10:45 PM  
He obviously has a different perspecitve on the situation, but what he says about the money is pretty close to the stories that came out five years ago.

"Hollywood insiders believe the exit stems from Terrence Howard's difficult behavior on the set of Iron Man. But those with intimate knowledge of the situation suggest a far more dramatic backstory: Howard was the first actor signed to the film and, on top of that, was the highest-paid. That's right: more than Gwyneth Paltrow. More than Jeff Bridges. More than Robert Downey Jr. And once the project fully came together, it was too late to renegotiate his deal. It didn't help that, according to one source, Favreau and his producers were ultimately unhappy with Howard's performance, and spent a lot of time cutting and reshooting his scenes. (Favreau could not be reached for comment, while Howard's publicist says: ''Terrence had a tremendous experience working on Iron Man.'')

As such, when Favreau and screenwriter Justin Theroux went to map out the sequel they found themselves minimizing Howard's story line. Once Marvel learned that Favreau was thinking of curtailing the role, the studio went to the actor's agents with a new and drastically reduced offer - a number that's similar to what supporting cast members were paid for the first movie. The agents, according to sources, were so taken aback by this new figure - estimated at somewhere between a 50 and 80 percent pay cut - that they questioned it. Why did they blanch? Multiple sources say that Marvel execs never told Howard's reps that they had issues with the star's on-set conduct. (Marvel would not comment for this story.)

It's unclear whether Howard's team walked away first, or if Marvel ended the discussion at that point. Either way, the studio moved quickly to secure Cheadle and the story leaked out the next morning, Oct. 14. And alas for Howard, there will be no next time."
 
2013-11-15 03:16:36 PM  
I didn't miss him at all in 2 or 3. Which is not to say that I think all those....military guys look alike and I didn't notice, just that um, what? Excuse me. That dog has a fluffy tail.
 
2013-11-15 03:19:19 PM  
Cheadle was better anyway.
 
2013-11-15 03:22:47 PM  
So now we know who to thank for getting us a decent Rhodey.
 
2013-11-15 03:24:22 PM  
The movie is called Iron Man not War Machine. Terrence needs to understand that he's not James Caan and it's not Godfather 2.
 
2013-11-15 03:25:42 PM  
Whoop that trick!
 
2013-11-15 03:25:52 PM  
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Priceless!
 
2013-11-15 03:26:43 PM  

The_Six_Fingered_Man: Cheadle was better anyway.


THIS. He's a better actor and probably a lot easier to work with.
 
2013-11-15 03:26:50 PM  

The_Six_Fingered_Man: Cheadle was better anyway.


This.
Howard was kinda "whiny". He didn't come off as bad ass.
 
2013-11-15 03:28:30 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: I think it's a case of him and Don Cheadle having dueling agents.


I don't understand how Cheadle gets work, I've never cared for him, that said I think he really upped his game for this Iron Man role.
 
2013-11-15 03:30:09 PM  
He was glaringly awful in the first film.    He was supposed to be some type of highly-ranked military man yet spoke with a soft-spoken lisp.    From reports, they tried to tell him to approach the role differently, and he wouldn't take direction... He was thought he was diva.
 
2013-11-15 03:31:20 PM  
neversubmit:   I've never cared for him

His crappy accent in the Ocean's movies were the worst part of the films.

/except for the Julia Roberts pretends to be Julia Roberts thing
//well and... ok lots of things
/// it still sucked
 
2013-11-15 03:32:07 PM  
"Well, it turns out...and this is gonna get me in a lot of trouble" Howard started. "It turns out that the person that I helped become Iron Man..."

1. As cool as Rhodey is, and as good as Howard played him, he DID NOT help Downey "become Iron Man".

2. Where was this statement when it was revealed that he was a greedy dick with an inflated sense of self worth, like 2 years ago?

3. I think Cheadle is doing a far better job anyway.
 
2013-11-15 03:35:28 PM  
Just look up previous Terrence Howard threads on Fark.

Those will probably explain all you need to know about Terrence Howard.

Fark him.
 
2013-11-15 03:38:07 PM  

Random Internet Persona: His crappy accent in the Ocean's movies were the worst part of the films.

/except for the Julia Roberts pretends to be Julia Roberts thing
//well and... ok lots of things
/// it still sucked


I liked him in Ocean's 11. "You tossers! You had one job to do!"

And Julia Roberts in the first and pretty much everything in the second movie sucked. Julia dumped Andy Garcia because he said he would give her up if Clooney told him how to get his hundreds of millions back. How much does she think she's worth?

Don't remember the third movie.
 
2013-11-15 03:38:52 PM  
Can someone clarify how Howard actually blamed Downey jr for being cut from Iron Man 2?
What did/didn't RDjr do exactly?

That article doesn't go into it.
 
2013-11-15 03:39:56 PM  

Glitchwerks: Just look up previous Terrence Howard threads on Fark.

Those will probably explain all you need to know about Terrence Howard.

Fark him.


This. 

Dude is an asshole.
 
2013-11-15 03:40:39 PM  
I can understand him being miffed about being asked for a pay cut.  However, is he in a better position now with no pay and not being attached to one of the larger film series around?  He would have been better off taking the pay cut and using the extra exposure to gain more buzz and potentially staring roles in the future.  Instead he tried to push and was replaced.  Maybe he didn't think there were enough African American actors out there to replace him.  He guessed wrong and is now living with the choices he made.
 
2013-11-15 03:42:24 PM  
Don Cheadle is the black George Clooney, everything about him indicates he should be great. Multiple viewings of his movies show that he's not really doing much. I love The Guard, but every time he's in a scene it just seems to grind to a halt.
 
2013-11-15 03:47:05 PM  

Daedalus27: I can understand him being miffed about being asked for a pay cut.  However, is he in a better position now with no pay and not being attached to one of the larger film series around?


I think he should have felt lucky that he got a lot more than he should have the first time around, that he's far from being irreplaceable and just taken the gigs. RDJ's the only irreplaceable actor in either the Iron Man or Avengers franchises.
 
2013-11-15 03:47:16 PM  
Thas pride farkin with you..........fark pride! It only hurts, it never helps.
 
2013-11-15 03:59:20 PM  
Don Cheadle gets a lifetime pass for Hotel Rwanda.  He was terrific and convincing in that one.  But otherwise, I am admittedly surprised that he gets as much work as he does.
 
2013-11-15 03:59:48 PM  
I seem to be the only one who preferred Howard's performance over Cheadle's. Different strokes I guess.
 
2013-11-15 04:01:29 PM  

Mugato: Random Internet Persona: His crappy accent in the Ocean's movies were the worst part of the films.

/except for the Julia Roberts pretends to be Julia Roberts thing
//well and... ok lots of things
/// it still sucked

I liked him in Ocean's 11. "You tossers! You had one job to do!"

And Julia Roberts in the first and pretty much everything in the second movie sucked. Julia dumped Andy Garcia because he said he would give her up if Clooney told him how to get his hundreds of millions back. How much does she think she's worth?

Don't remember the third movie.


$3000 a week
 
2013-11-15 04:02:16 PM  

Mugato: RDJ's the only irreplaceable actor in either the Iron Man or Avengers franchises.


Why? I'm sure there are plenty of actors who can play Tony Stark.

Sean Connery was "irreplaceable" as Bond at one point, too.
 
2013-11-15 04:05:20 PM  

SirTanon: Priceless!


Shouldn't that be:
Iron-man 2
Terrence Howard 1
 
2013-11-15 04:06:26 PM  

Random Internet Persona: neversubmit:   I've never cared for him

His crappy accent in the Ocean's movies were the worst part of the films.

/except for the Julia Roberts pretends to be Julia Roberts thing
//well and... ok lots of things
/// it still sucked


Oh I've seen him admit how much crap his friends give him for the bad job he did in the first one and he was kinda stuck with that accent for the next two films.
 
2013-11-15 04:11:03 PM  

The Banana Thug: Don Cheadle gets a lifetime pass for Hotel Rwanda.  He was terrific and convincing in that one.  But otherwise, I am admittedly surprised that he gets as much work as he does.


That performance pales compared to his Captain Planet role.

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Don Cheadle doesn't take himself or life too seriously. I bet it is a marked difference directing Cheadle vs. Howard. As a producer or a director, you take the actor who won;t trip over his own ego.
 
2013-11-15 04:11:31 PM  

homarjr: Mugato: RDJ's the only irreplaceable actor in either the Iron Man or Avengers franchises.

Why? I'm sure there are plenty of actors who can play Tony Stark.

Sean Connery was "irreplaceable" as Bond at one point, too.


I think the only people who think that were alive when they changed Bonds. They would have a very hard time replacing RDJ.

Johnsnownw: I don't know, I'd have a difficult time seeing anyone else play Thor...but that's pretty much it.


Thor is pretty bland. Anyone with the right build could easily replace him.
 
2013-11-15 04:12:06 PM  

GungFu: Can someone clarify how Howard actually blamed Downey jr for being cut from Iron Man 2?
What did/didn't RDjr do exactly?

That article doesn't go into it.


"...they came to me for the second one and said, 'We will pay you 1/8th of what we contractually had for you, because we think the second one will be successful with or without you.' And I called my friend who I helped get the first job and he didn't call me back for three months."

Basically, RDJ didn't return his call, and that's why it's all his fault they re-cast the part.
 
2013-11-15 04:21:44 PM  

neversubmit: I don't understand how Cheadle gets work, I've never cared for him


I'm assuming it's because there is at least one person out there with a better eye for talent than you.
 
2013-11-15 04:23:25 PM  
His shock of learning that signing a picture deal didn't guarantee he would appear in sequels was adorable.
 
2013-11-15 04:27:08 PM  

Mugato: I think he should have felt lucky that he got a lot more than he should have the first time around, that he's far from being irreplaceable and just taken the gigs. RDJ's the only irreplaceable actor in either the Iron Man or Avengers franchises.


I'd put Sam Jackson in that list too, but otherwise I agree fully.
 
2013-11-15 04:29:38 PM  

T.rex: He was glaringly awful in the first film.    He was supposed to be some type of highly-ranked military man yet spoke with a soft-spoken lisp.


This.
 
2013-11-15 04:33:56 PM  

SkunkWorx: Mugato: I think he should have felt lucky that he got a lot more than he should have the first time around, that he's far from being irreplaceable and just taken the gigs. RDJ's the only irreplaceable actor in either the Iron Man or Avengers franchises.

I'd put Sam Jackson in that list too, but otherwise I agree fully.


Yeah, Sam Jackson. They couldn't replace him but if they really had to they could just write him out (like he would ever turn down a role)..
 
2013-11-15 04:35:12 PM  
Um.....here's why.

"Hey, honey. You want to go see that new Robert Downy Jr. movie?"
or
"Hey, honey. You want to go see that new Terrence Howard movie?"
 
2013-11-15 04:35:51 PM  

The_Six_Fingered_Man: Cheadle was better anyway.


Eh, probably just me but I thought Cheadle was wooden as Rhodes for some reason.  Like I didn't believe he was Rhodes the way I did with Howard.
 
2013-11-15 04:38:25 PM  

Crewmannumber6: Don Cheadle is the black George Clooney, everything about him indicates he should be great. Multiple viewings of his movies show that he's not really doing much. I love The Guard, but every time he's in a scene it just seems to grind to a halt.


Yeah, that.  Cheadle on some roles like in "Hotel Rwanda" is awesome; on other roles he just doesn't look right.  Fantastic actor nonetheless.
 
2013-11-15 04:39:22 PM  

Uncle Pooky: neversubmit: I don't understand how Cheadle gets work, I've never cared for him

I'm assuming it's because there is at least one person out there with a better eye for talent than you.


Is that what you are doing, assuming? hmm... Pooky? Do you feel good about yourself implying that talent has anything to do with Don Cheadle? Really?
 
2013-11-15 04:39:39 PM  
I like the very first line Rhodes gives Stark in Ironman 2, at the Senate hearing. Basically a line from Cheadle to RDJ (and, by extension, the audience): "Look, it's me, I'm here. Deal with it. Let's move on."

Nice jab at the casting change.

/the ONLY casting change in Marvel's Cinematic Universe
//everyone else is buying in for multiple films.
//Samuel L. Jackson has a 10 picture deal! He's already been in five and three more are coming up
 
2013-11-15 04:42:20 PM  

Mugato: homarjr: Mugato: RDJ's the only irreplaceable actor in either the Iron Man or Avengers franchises.

Why? I'm sure there are plenty of actors who can play Tony Stark.

Sean Connery was "irreplaceable" as Bond at one point, too.

I think the only people who think that were alive when they changed Bonds. They would have a very hard time replacing RDJ.


Why was RDJ offered less money than Howard for his role in Iron Man?  Because they didn't think of him as  "irreplaceable" at the time he was hired.  Perhaps Downey Jr knew that, and put in a much better effort to play the role of Tony Stark than he would have if rebuilding his reputation as a reliable actor wasn't part of his goal.
 
2013-11-15 04:42:32 PM  
He's a good actor but I didn't buy him as a military man. Too soft. He needed some steel and discipline in his swagger.
 
2013-11-15 04:48:56 PM  

The Banana Thug: Don Cheadle gets a lifetime pass for Hotel Rwanda.  He was terrific and convincing in that one.  But otherwise, I am admittedly surprised that he gets as much work as he does.


I loved him as Buck in Boogie Nights.
 
2013-11-15 04:52:20 PM  

Seequinn: Why was RDJ offered less money than Howard for his role in Iron Man?  Because they didn't think of him as  "irreplaceable" at the time he was hired.  Perhaps Downey Jr knew that, and put in a much better effort to play the role of Tony Stark than he would have if rebuilding his reputation as a reliable actor wasn't part of his goal.


Well apparently director John Faverau had to fight tooth and nail to get RDJ at all. Favreau deserves a portion of RDJ's fortune, including his Sherlock Holmes money.
 
2013-11-15 04:52:30 PM  
I'd like to add that it's hard out there for a pimp
 
2013-11-15 04:54:38 PM  

Mugato: SkunkWorx: Mugato: I think he should have felt lucky that he got a lot more than he should have the first time around, that he's far from being irreplaceable and just taken the gigs. RDJ's the only irreplaceable actor in either the Iron Man or Avengers franchises.

I'd put Sam Jackson in that list too, but otherwise I agree fully.

Yeah, Sam Jackson. They couldn't replace him but if they really had to they could just write him out (like he would ever turn down a role)..


And Black Widow.  It would be hard to fill out that leather singlet quite the same.
 
2013-11-15 04:55:22 PM  

Mugato: Seequinn: Why was RDJ offered less money than Howard for his role in Iron Man?  Because they didn't think of him as  "irreplaceable" at the time he was hired.  Perhaps Downey Jr knew that, and put in a much better effort to play the role of Tony Stark than he would have if rebuilding his reputation as a reliable actor wasn't part of his goal.

Well apparently director John Faverau had to fight tooth and nail to get RDJ at all. Favreau deserves a portion of RDJ's fortune, including his Sherlock Holmes money.


Heh, one of the best castings ever.  Right up there with G.C. Scott as Patton.
 
2013-11-15 04:56:40 PM  

Saiga410: Mugato: SkunkWorx: Mugato: I think he should have felt lucky that he got a lot more than he should have the first time around, that he's far from being irreplaceable and just taken the gigs. RDJ's the only irreplaceable actor in either the Iron Man or Avengers franchises.

I'd put Sam Jackson in that list too, but otherwise I agree fully.

Yeah, Sam Jackson. They couldn't replace him but if they really had to they could just write him out (like he would ever turn down a role)..

And Black Widow.  It would be hard to fill out that leather singlet quite the same.


Still hated her hairdo for IM2, they could've kept the long hair or gone for a pixie cut.
 
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