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(The Atlantic)   The latest craze in self-defense? Bartitsu, which was popularized by Sherlock Holmes and was quite popular in the Victorian era   (theatlantic.com) divider line 24
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2013-11-15 01:13:03 PM
3 votes:
Bartitsu?

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2013-11-15 04:42:04 PM
2 votes:
I think politicians should be required to settle all their differences using this method. Would cut down on the bs they spew.
2013-11-15 03:22:43 PM
2 votes:

Primitive Screwhead: Anything to help me fend off stain glass knights

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I owned that on beta along with the breakfast club.
2013-11-15 02:58:03 PM
2 votes:

willfullyobscure: Krusty_the_Barbarian: Friend of mine in a Bartitsu demonstration/skit at DragonCon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qo4xRP3jvQ

any broheim in a Tapout hat and an Affliction shirt with two MMA less o ns under his  belt could take that guy out like he was the kitchen trashbag.

 Sorry, but that's a fact.


In a fight probably, but hard to tell from watching what amounts to a play. But most people never get into fights. And most people, including most martial artists, are not fighters.

Seems to me the practical purpose of something like Bartitsu (which I know absolutely nothing about) would be to 1) make yourself a less attractive target for whatever (robbery, rape, random beating by some bored psychotic teenager), 2) marginally improve your chances of getting away clean if you are attacked, 3) marginally improve your chances of not being too badly injured if numbers 1 and 2 don't work out.

That's the best most people can hope for with even years of training. And in my humble opinion it's worth it. Life boils down to incremental advantages facilitating miraculous results.

/always give someone with a gun your valuables
//never, and i mean NEVER, get in the car
2013-11-15 01:33:32 PM
2 votes:
Anything to help me fend off stain glass knights

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2013-11-15 07:52:06 PM
1 votes:

Malik Sardonis: It's not like Barton-Wright pulled this out of his ass:

Edward William Barton-Wright was born in India in 1860 and educated in Germany and France. While working as a mining engineer in Japan during the 1890s he trained in jujutsu and judo, and upon moving to London in 1899, he opened a self-defense academy at which he and his mostly Japanese instructors taught a system of self-defense that he called "Bartitsu." The method was limned in several British magazines, and featured as "Baritsu" in Arthur Conan Doyle's "The Adventure of the Empty House.

Jujitsu with a British flavor and using the weapons which a British gentleman would commonly carry:  the walking stick, cane or umbrella.

Sure, the steampunk crowd has embraced bartitsu as thematically correct, and the Holmes movies increased awareness, but it is a real fighting art.  I can't vouch for its effectiveness, but I do wish I could find a teacher/school nearby, simply because I commonly carry a walking stick.


It'll probably be easier for you to find an Escrima school. Those techniques can be used with essentially any stick or blade. Really good stuff!
2013-11-15 06:04:03 PM
1 votes:

JonnyBGoode: And not silly at all. In a rough club, carrying a cane might come in handy. Knives and guns might get confiscated, but a cane? That would be like confiscating someone's wheelchair or crutches. Suddenly the odds tip in your favor, when you're the only one armed.


It's worth noting that even the TSA won't take a gentleman's cane.  :)
2013-11-15 05:58:35 PM
1 votes:
Old news is old; this has been a thing for a few years now. Sadly, nobody teaches this in California, at least anywhere near where I live, or I'd sign up for lessons. Having done TKD and swordfighting before, it should be fairly easy to get the hang of.

And not silly at all. In a rough club, carrying a cane might come in handy. Knives and guns might get confiscated, but a cane? That would be like confiscating someone's wheelchair or crutches. Suddenly the odds tip in your favor, when you're the only one armed.

Besides, as my old TKD master used to say, one of these days you're going to probably be too old to throw an effective punch or kick anymore. But by then you'll probably be using a cane, and if you know how to use it as a weapon, you can still deliver some effective whoop-ass.
2013-11-15 05:46:19 PM
1 votes:
It's not like Barton-Wright pulled this out of his ass:

Edward William Barton-Wright was born in India in 1860 and educated in Germany and France. While working as a mining engineer in Japan during the 1890s he trained in jujutsu and judo, and upon moving to London in 1899, he opened a self-defense academy at which he and his mostly Japanese instructors taught a system of self-defense that he called "Bartitsu." The method was limned in several British magazines, and featured as "Baritsu" in Arthur Conan Doyle's "The Adventure of the Empty House.

Jujitsu with a British flavor and using the weapons which a British gentleman would commonly carry:  the walking stick, cane or umbrella.

Sure, the steampunk crowd has embraced bartitsu as thematically correct, and the Holmes movies increased awareness, but it is a real fighting art.  I can't vouch for its effectiveness, but I do wish I could find a teacher/school nearby, simply because I commonly carry a walking stick.
2013-11-15 03:32:19 PM
1 votes:
Bartitsu? Fine I suppose if you are only dealing with rapscallions, perhaps the occasional ruffian...
But if you run afoul of hooligans you need to step up your game some. Javanese Fisticuffs perhaps. Or avoid violence altogether and use Roussaud's New Principles of Mesmerism.
2013-11-15 03:19:48 PM
1 votes:
Boxing, wrestling, Jujitsu, stickwork and it's meant to be done in regular clothes. What's not to like?
2013-11-15 02:12:35 PM
1 votes:
Ho, ha ha, guard, turn, parry, dodge, spin, ha, thrust.
2013-11-15 01:51:38 PM
1 votes:

Primitive Screwhead: Anything to help me fend off stain glass knights

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Underrated movie.
2013-11-15 01:40:47 PM
1 votes:

NuttierThanEver: If you going to have a cane anyways why not use this?
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Granted, those are illegal in some (at least) jurisdictions, while a plain old walking stick is perfectly acceptable.

A friend of mine uses one of these:  http://www.coldsteel.com/Product/91STA/CITY_STICK%2c_ALUMINUM_HEAD.as p x
2013-11-15 01:38:44 PM
1 votes:
My dear Subby, it's spelled Baritsu.

/at least according to Sherlock Holmes and Conan Doyle.
/which is akin to Yahweh and Jesus Christ
2013-11-15 01:38:01 PM
1 votes:

Crewmannumber6: Any excuse to carry a walking stick

/this one displeases me


You might like Bataireacht, Irish stick fighting.

Doyle family style stick fighting.
2013-11-15 01:23:24 PM
1 votes:
Why do I get the feeling that the Venn diagram showing Steampunk aficionados and baritsu practitioners has a REALLY big overlap?
2013-11-15 01:20:07 PM
1 votes:
I'll take this cane over some antiquated fighting style.

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2013-11-15 01:13:50 PM
1 votes:
BART-itsu. Is when you have five white cops holding down a brother and one of them shoots him in the back.
Then walks away from justice.
2013-11-15 01:13:18 PM
1 votes:

thecpt: Looks like lame fencing. Which can look lame enough already.


What ho?! En garde, thou raspcallion!
2013-11-15 01:12:20 PM
1 votes:
Latest? Heard about this years ago...
2013-11-15 01:10:10 PM
1 votes:
In USSR, bartitsu
2013-11-15 01:08:56 PM
1 votes:
The second chapter of the Bartitsu book is how to arrange your steampunk funeral.
2013-11-15 11:04:55 AM
1 votes:
Bartitsu? Reminds me dimly of a joke that I only remember the punch-line to. "First of all lady, I'm a bartender, not a barfender, second it's a martini, not a martoonie, and third, you don't have heartburn, your tit's in the ashtray."
 
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