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(Politico)   Kevin McCarthy: "Only a governor should be the 2016 presidential nominee." Hey, McCarthy, you sucked in Wings too   (politico.com ) divider line
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2013-11-15 08:51:01 AM  
Well, the last governor who became president sure did a bang-up job.
 
2013-11-15 09:21:39 AM  

Rev. Skarekroe: Well, the last governor who became president sure did a bang-up job.


True...though the one before him that was governor wasn't nearly as bad.
 
2013-11-15 09:24:59 AM  
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i said what now?
 
2013-11-15 10:23:32 AM  
slammed President Barack Obama for failing to negotiate with Republicans

Revision much?
 
2013-11-15 10:37:22 AM  

RedPhoenix122: Rev. Skarekroe: Well, the last governor who became president sure did a bang-up job.

True...though the one before him that was governor wasn't nearly as bad.


And the one before that was good but the one previous was bad.

I do not know about should but the best chances are that the next president will have been a governor at one time.
 
2013-11-15 10:37:54 AM  
Baby, I'm amazed...
 
2013-11-15 10:39:25 AM  
I don't get this at all
 
2013-11-15 10:41:21 AM  
Finally the Republicans admit Abe Lincoln was a horrible president.
 
2013-11-15 10:44:06 AM  
"McCarthy's comments came as he slammed President Barack Obama for failing to negotiate with Republicans... "
He spent 3 years trying to do nothing BUT negotiate with Republicans, and all it got him was a bunch of assholes like you going on about how Obama "wasn't living up to his campaign promises". One or the other, dude, you REALLY can't have it both ways.
 
2013-11-15 10:45:59 AM  

lockers: I don't get this at all


Pretty bad attempt by subby to say that McCarthy sounds like McCartney.

I'd have went with an Invasion of the Body Snatchers reference instead.
 
2013-11-15 10:47:14 AM  
"You idiot, he was the most talented one!"

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2013-11-15 10:50:24 AM  
Not all governors are created equal.
 
2013-11-15 10:51:01 AM  

Because People in power are Stupid: slammed President Barack Obama for failing to negotiate with Republicans

Revision much?


That's been the talking point for ages. Obama doesn't negotiate with Republicans, because he doesn't give Republicans everything they want, while they sacrifice nothing.
 
2013-11-15 10:55:15 AM  
Yeah, running ex-governors has worked out so well for the GOP in the past. It's given them such luminaries as George W. Bush, Richard M. Nixon, and Ronald Q. Reagan. Contrast that to the Republican presidents who weren't governors, like George H. W. Bush and Dwight D. Eisenhower - they were, by all measures, simply terrible presidents.
 
2013-11-15 10:56:38 AM  
He was good in the original Invasion of the Body Snatchers, though.
 
2013-11-15 10:57:05 AM  

qorkfiend: Yeah, running ex-governors has worked out so well for the GOP in the past. It's given them such luminaries as George W. Bush, Richard M. Nixon, and Ronald Q. Reagan. Contrast that to the Republican presidents who weren't governors, like George H. W. Bush and Dwight D. Eisenhower - they were, by all measures, simply terrible presidents.


Imma gonna let you finish but Nixon was never a governor.  VP yes but no other executive experience.  He lost his bit for governor which led to his "You wont have Nixon to kick around speech."
 
2013-11-15 10:57:47 AM  

Because People in power are Stupid: slammed President Barack Obama for failing to negotiate with Republicans

Revision much?


negotiate = completely give in to their demands
 
2013-11-15 10:59:46 AM  
So, which one was he?

www.sitcomsonline.com
 
2013-11-15 11:02:39 AM  

karnal: Baby, I'm amazed...


That's pre-Wings solo McCarthy.

I wish the biatch would vaccinate her kids and lose some goddamned weight. Nobody wants a fat biatch on a sitcom. And stop messing with the commies.
 
2013-11-15 11:04:44 AM  

Z-clipped: So, which one was he?

[www.sitcomsonline.com image 350x296]


I saw Thomas Hayden Church at Sugar's strip club in Austin once. The capital of Texas is Austin. Therefore it must be him.
 
2013-11-15 11:05:47 AM  

dletter: lockers: I don't get this at all

Pretty bad attempt by subby to say that McCarthy sounds like McCartney.

I'd have went with an Invasion of the Body Snatchers reference instead.


Oh.... that is... well *cough*

So, how about that game last night. I can't believe that touchdown made by local sports clubs employee. It was fantastic.
 
2013-11-15 11:05:49 AM  
He shoulda just showed up in a Team Christie tee shirt and cut the pretenses.
 
2013-11-15 11:07:22 AM  

dletter: lockers: I don't get this at all

Pretty bad attempt by subby to say that McCarthy sounds like McCartney.

I'd have went with an Invasion of the Body Snatchers reference instead.


No love for Innerspace?
 
2013-11-15 11:09:18 AM  
Perry, Palin, Jindal, Christie, Daniels, Kasich.

1 out of 6 ain't bad.

//he ain't good either.
 
2013-11-15 11:10:35 AM  
He's trying to set up some GOP talking points:

1) Undermines qualifications of Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton; and
2) Governors don't pass legislation. Almost nothing of note has been passed by the latest Do Nothing congress because of GOP obstructionists. Governors can't have their record of votes scrutinized because they don't vote.
 
2013-11-15 11:15:26 AM  
Just coincidence, I'm sure, that popular opinion expects a Republican governor and a Democratic non-governor to be the frontrunners in 2016
 
2013-11-15 11:29:36 AM  
He must be one of Jenny McCarthy's kids that did not get the vaccines.
 
2013-11-15 11:31:45 AM  
"Also, his party affiliation should rhyme with........'Ex.....aa......publican!'"
 
2013-11-15 11:32:17 AM  

Because People in power are Stupid: slammed President Barack Obama for failing to negotiate with Republicans

Revision much?


Is revision what we're using instead of "lies" now?
 
2013-11-15 11:36:34 AM  

monoski: He must be one of Jenny McCarthy's kids that did not get the vaccines.


Now your joke makes sense.
 
2013-11-15 11:38:20 AM  
And this farkbag is my congressman.  I'm so glad I share a district with Bakersfield.
 
2013-11-15 11:45:09 AM  
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Strangely appropriate.
 
2013-11-15 11:48:37 AM  

qorkfiend: Yeah, running ex-governors has worked out so well for the GOP in the past. It's given them such luminaries as George W. Bush, Richard M. Nixon, and Ronald Q. Reagan. Contrast that to the Republican presidents who weren't governors, like George H. W. Bush and Dwight D. Eisenhower - they were, by all measures, simply terrible presidents.


Dipshiat.
 
2013-11-15 11:48:45 AM  
However, McCarthy's overall assessment for the executive office could cause problems for Republican colleagues such as "Young Guns" co-author Rep. Paul Ryan and Sen. Marco Rubio if either decides to launch a bid in 2016 and will be looking for an endorsement from the No. 3 GOP House member.

Well, at least there's an upside.
 
2013-11-15 11:59:59 AM  

show me: karnal: Baby, I'm amazed...

That's pre-Wings solo McCarthy.

I wish the biatch would vaccinate her kids and lose some goddamned weight. Nobody wants a fat biatch on a sitcom. And stop messing with the commies.


No, I think this guy was one of the lesser known member of the Brat Pack.

/St Elmo's Fire > Pretty in Pink
 
2013-11-15 12:06:02 PM  

Saiga410: Imma gonna let you finish but Nixon was never a governor. VP yes but no other executive experience. He lost his bit for governor which led to his "You wont have Nixon to kick around speech."


I thought Nixon's "You won't have a Dick to Kick" comment was after losing to Kennedy.
 
2013-11-15 12:06:53 PM  
"Only a governor should be the 2016 presidential nominee... and take that ridiculous thing OFF!"
 
2013-11-15 12:21:33 PM  

Muta: I thought Nixon's "You won't have a Dick to Kick" comment was after losing to Kennedy.


Nope, Brown for CA Governor in '62.
 
2013-11-15 12:27:52 PM  
www.blastr.com

I don't know, he'd probably get primaried from the right for his stance on sword control.
 
2013-11-15 01:10:20 PM  
There is a reason almost all Presidents since JFK were governors ast some point. Executive leadership is a different skill than legislating.
 
2013-11-15 01:29:11 PM  

ManRay: There is a reason almost all Presidents since JFK were governors ast some point. Executive leadership is a different skill than legislating.


True that.  Just hire a bunch of advisors and hope that they aren't hell bent on pissing off the Middle East for no god damn good f*cking reason.  Hell, it might even get you reelected!
 
2013-11-15 01:49:48 PM  
ManRay: There is a reason almost all Presidents since JFK were governors ast some point. Executive leadership is a different skill than legislating. I am a silly person who thinks that four (Carter, Reagan, Clinton, W) out of nine is "almost all" and that governin' is just about the same as presidentin'.
 
2013-11-15 02:40:51 PM  
Invasion of the Body Snatchers , ftw
 
2013-11-15 02:45:38 PM  

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Because People in power are Stupid: slammed President Barack Obama for failing to negotiate with Republicans

Revision much?

Is revision what we're using instead of "lies" now?


One is the superset of the other.
 
2013-11-15 03:28:51 PM  

ManRay: There is a reason almost all Presidents since JFK were governors ast some point. Executive leadership is a different skill than legislating.


Except leadership of a state is much differen than leadership of a country and I can just as easily say that legislating on the Federal level is more valuable as you work on Federal issues and develop relevant contacts in that role.

Also, most presidents were not governors. And those that were have a pretty mixed record, which leans against it being an indicator of ability as President.
 
2013-11-15 04:08:22 PM  

jedzz: ManRay: There is a reason almost all Presidents since JFK were governors ast some point. Executive leadership is a different skill than legislating. I am a silly person who thinks that four (Carter, Reagan, Clinton, W) out of nine is "almost all" and that governin' is just about the same as presidentin'.


Excellent takedown using facts: LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Bush Sr., doyousmellwhatBaRockiscooking make 5.

ManRay, apologize.
 
2013-11-15 05:18:43 PM  

dywed88: Except leadership of a state is much differen than leadership of a country and I can just as easily say that legislating on the Federal level is more valuable as you work on Federal issues and develop relevant contacts in that role.

Also, most presidents were not governors. And those that were have a pretty mixed record, which leans against it being an indicator of ability as President.


I should have stipulated governors or "had executive experience" like Nixon and Bush Sr. like I usually do when someone starts pitching their favorite Congressman for President. Liking someone's ideas is great, but the important thing is "will they be effective"? I shortened my normal argument and ruined it.
 I still maintain running a state is closer to being President than being a Senator, and certainly a Representative. They are not mutually exclusive, but a different skill set. Crafting legislation is about compromising and finding middle ground (or it should be to be successful). An Executive needs to be less so, more of a leader that gets things done his/her way.
 
2013-11-15 07:09:18 PM  

ManRay: dywed88: Except leadership of a state is much differen than leadership of a country and I can just as easily say that legislating on the Federal level is more valuable as you work on Federal issues and develop relevant contacts in that role.

Also, most presidents were not governors. And those that were have a pretty mixed record, which leans against it being an indicator of ability as President.

I should have stipulated governors or "had executive experience" like Nixon and Bush Sr. like I usually do when someone starts pitching their favorite Congressman for President. Liking someone's ideas is great, but the important thing is "will they be effective"? I shortened my normal argument and ruined it.
 I still maintain running a state is closer to being President than being a Senator, and certainly a Representative. They are not mutually exclusive, but a different skill set. Crafting legislation is about compromising and finding middle ground (or it should be to be successful). An Executive needs to be less so, more of a leader that gets things done his/her way.


A governor is more similar to a president than a senator or representative. But on the technical side there are a lot of benefits from being a senator or even a representative.

Federal legislators will have worked on Federal matters that governors didn't. They will have contacts in the informal channels that the government runs through. They will have relationships with many of the legislators. The same applies to those with executive experience in the Federal government.

Most legislators that make a run for the presidency have spent time on significant committees and/or in leadership roles to develop the knowledge and relationships.

None is necessarily better than the other, all three routes (governor, legislator, or executive branch) have advantages.
 
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