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(TMZ)   Alec Baldwin admits he is many things, but a homophobe is not one of them; he did not call a paparazzo a "c*cksucking f*g," he called him a "c*cksucking fathead." Wait, how is that any better?   (tmz.com) divider line 108
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2013-11-15 08:43:19 AM
One is hate speech.  The other is an observation?  I dunno.  All those people are alike to me.


 Liberals, I mean.
 
2013-11-15 09:23:58 AM
Once is anti-fat people which is the only permissible discrimination today.
 
2013-11-15 09:25:25 AM
You should take up cocksucking, Alex. Preferably big ones. Harder to stick a foot in your mouth if there's already one in there.
 
2013-11-15 09:28:13 AM
Why do people always use the word phobia?  If he doesn't like black people is he negro-phobic?  Don't like fat people, he's fat-phobic, or something?  Is it really a phobia?  I'm not saying it is right to discriminate, it just seems like silly language.
 
2013-11-15 09:31:51 AM
More politically correct. I really like his podcast, but it's hard to listen to after one of his douchebag outbreaks.
 
2013-11-15 09:32:02 AM
I think the whole cocksucking/cocksucker as an insult thing should be rebranded and framed better. We don't want to discourage cocksucking, we want to encourage cocksucking, make it the next cool thing.  It should be a compliment, like "You magnificent cocksucker, well played".  Anyting that will increase the number of (safe) blowjobs people are getting, for both straights and gays.
 
2013-11-15 09:35:23 AM
Oh well then, using a slur intended to degrade someone by comparing them to a person who performs oral sex on men (namely women and gay men) is perfectly fine.
 
2013-11-15 09:36:07 AM

HoustonNick: Once is anti-fat people which is the only permissible discrimination today.


SHutup fatty.
 
2013-11-15 09:36:20 AM
Wait, hold one a second here. If he said "cocksucking", anything that came after it (pun intended) would be redundant. It's the slur in itself, unless he was talking to a female. Lying about the rest doesn't make any sense, he should have went with "I said 'cogsucking', like Coswell's Cogs from the Jetsons. Yeah, I said cogsucking fathead".
 
2013-11-15 09:37:22 AM
Hey, SUBBY, I want to tell you something, OK? And I want to leave a post for you right now. 'Cause again, it's 9:30 here in Boston on a Friday, and once again I've made an ass of myself trying to get to a post to you at a specific time. When the time comes for me to post, I stop whatever I'm doing and I go and I post. At 9 o'clock in the morning in Boston and if you don't respond by 10 o'clock at night. And you don't even have your farking iPhone turned on. I want you to know something, OK?
I'm tired of playing this game with you. I'm leaving this post for you to tell you you have insulted me for the last time. You have insulted me. You don't have the brains or the decency as a human being. I don't give a damn that you're 12 years old, or 11 years old, or that you're a child, or that your mother is a thoughtless pain in the ass who doesn't care about what you do as far as I'm concerned. You have humiliated me for the last time on Fark!

And when I come out there next week, I'm going to fly out there for the day just to straighten you out on this issue. I'm going to let you know just how disappointed in you I am and how angry I am with you that you've done this to me again. You've made me feel like shiat and you've made me feel like a fool over and over and over again. And this crap you pull on me with this expletive Fark situation that you would never dream of doing to your mother and you do it to me constantly and over and over again. I am going to get on a plane and I am going to come out there for the day and I am going to straighten your ass out when I see you.
Do you understand me? I'm going to really make sure you get it. Then I'm going to get on a plane and I'm going to turn around and come home. So you'd better be ready Friday the 22nd to meet with me. So I'm going to let you know just how I feel about what a rude little pig you really are. You are a rude, thoughtless little pig, OK?
 
2013-11-15 09:40:33 AM
I think he is full of shiat. Who the fark calls someone a fathead? Especially when prefaced with cock-sucking?
 
2013-11-15 09:41:36 AM
He'll get another pass.Thats how double standards work.
 
2013-11-15 09:44:26 AM

HoustonNick: Once is anti-fat people which is the only permissible discrimination today.


That's not true. It's still completely socially acceptable to discriminate against atheists.
 
2013-11-15 09:46:06 AM

conjecture and hearsay: Why do people always use the word phobia?  If he doesn't like black people is he negro-phobic?  Don't like fat people, he's fat-phobic, or something?  Is it really a phobia?  I'm not saying it is right to discriminate, it just seems like silly language.


It is silly language, no doubt.  Islamophobia; homophobia; transphobia all seem to kind of miss the mark.  For me, I just use the term "bigot".
 
2013-11-15 09:46:44 AM

TheSlothAlive: I think the whole cocksucking/cocksucker as an insult thing should be rebranded and framed better. We don't want to discourage cocksucking, we want to encourage cocksucking, make it the next cool thing.  It should be a compliment, like "You magnificent cocksucker, well played".  Anyting that will increase the number of (safe) blowjobs people are getting, for both straights and gays.


Totally agree.
 
2013-11-15 09:46:49 AM

Musikslayer: Wait, hold one a second here. If he said "cocksucking", anything that came after it (pun intended) would be redundant. It's the slur in itself, unless he was talking to a female. Lying about the rest doesn't make any sense, he should have went with "I said 'cogsucking', like Coswell's Cogs from the Jetsons. Yeah, I said cogsucking fathead".


No, he was calling him a "cork-soaker"
 
2013-11-15 09:47:34 AM
I think you can call people a whole bunch of insulting things that aren't necessarily accurate or intended to be hate speech. That's what people do when they get mad. If I call you a "motherfarker" and you do not, in fact, sleep with your mother, and I know it, the phrase is meant to be insulting, but it's not intended as hate speech. Or something.

Or maybe the scum masquerading as photographers could recall that Alec Baldwin hates being ambushed by them, and to do so might bring on insults or an unpleasant altercation. But why would we hold them responsible for their actions?

Yeah, I just watched the video--the pap was standing right up against the side of the car where Alec's wife was sitting, trying to get pictures of her and the baby through the window. And he was double-parked, which means that he'd probably just pulled up there to pick them up and try to avoid the paparazzi. Fark those guys. If someone was doing that to me, I'd have an attack dog in the back seat.
 
2013-11-15 09:50:38 AM

TheSlothAlive: I think the whole cocksucking/cocksucker as an insult thing should be rebranded and framed better. We don't want to discourage cocksucking, we want to encourage cocksucking, make it the next cool thing.  It should be a compliment, like "You magnificent cocksucker, well played".  Anyting that will increase the number of (safe) blowjobs people are getting, for both straights and gays.


Sybarite: Oh well then, using a slur intended to degrade someone by comparing them to a person who performs oral sex on men (namely women and gay men) is perfectly fine.


It's just an insult... Like when people call you a wanker. Is that sexist/bigoted too?

The insulting part of cocksucker doesn't lie in the act of cock sucking but on the fact that the person does it to anyone. Like a cheap whore.
 
2013-11-15 09:50:45 AM
Getting your cock sucked is for closers Alec.
 
2013-11-15 09:50:50 AM
Maybe he's just a huge Deadwood fan
 
2013-11-15 09:53:32 AM

Staffa Kar Therma: Getting your cock sucked is for closers Alec.


Always
Be
Cocksucking
 
2013-11-15 09:54:13 AM
 "I'm gonna find you, George Stark, you toxic little queen, and I'm gonna fark...you...up... [I']d put my foot up your farking ass, George Stark, but I'm sure you'd dig it too much." - Alec Baldwin

After that little rant, Alec Baldwin doesn't exactly get the benefit of the doubt anymore.  He's a homophobic asshole.  He just realizes that being homophobic is bad for business so he pretends not to be.
 
2013-11-15 09:56:09 AM

Sybarite: Oh well then, using a slur intended to degrade someone by comparing them to a person who performs oral sex on men (namely women and gay men) is perfectly fine.


Kind of like when people use the term "teabagger"?
 
2013-11-15 10:00:15 AM

Nana's Vibrator:
Do you understand me? I'm going to really make sure you get it. Then I'm going to get on a plane and I'm going to turn around and come home. So you'd better be ready Friday the 22nd to meet with me. So I'm going to let you know just how I feel about what a rude little pig you really are. You are a rude, thoughtless little pig, OK?


You know his daughter came out a while ago and said that that whole incident was no big deal, her father and her talked to each other like that all the time? She doesn't seem to have any problems with him now.

I just wonder what kind of a parent would release private phone messages to a child to the press--knowing that it would be spread all over the news and that it would get back to their kid. Actually, I know exactly which kind of parent would do something like that, since I went through similar things for many years. But she has to be a much better parent than him, right??
 
2013-11-15 10:00:57 AM
Well, yes, he's an asshole, but I think in all of the insults, he just says the first things that come to mind, which would be the things he (sadly) hears when people are insulting each other.  He probably doesn't even think about the collateral damage.  He's an actor.  He reads from the script.  He doesn't write it.  Had he dug down and improvised and went after blacks or Jewish people or something a little less common when flippantly insulting someone, I'd say his problem is on a much larger scale.
/still shouldn't have said it.
 
2013-11-15 10:04:30 AM
Well played, Mr. Baldwin.

images.zap2it.com
 
2013-11-15 10:04:46 AM

ThatBillmanGuy: HoustonNick: Once is anti-fat people which is the only permissible discrimination today.

That's not true. It's still completely socially acceptable to discriminate against atheists.


As someone who is mainstream Christian and who has been tarred by the fundie cultists that seem to make up the most vocal of us, I'm enjoying watching sensible, rational atheists suffer the same problem because of the Dawkinsian prats. Schadenfreude is fun.

I hear "I'm an atheist, but not one of THOSE atheists," a lot these days.
 
2013-11-15 10:07:25 AM

cryinoutloud: I just wonder what kind of a parent would release private phone messages to a child to the press--knowing that it would be spread all over the news and that it would get back to their kid. Actually, I know exactly which kind of parent would do something like that, since I went through similar things for many years. But she has to be a much better parent than him, right??


Who even knows if it was real or a publicity stunt...but I wouldn't doubt that he's truly that volatile and revolting, considering the rest of his family and his other actions.  It is a testament to the patience of the mother and the daughter that, when "any press is good press," they don't run to the media and just slander him to bits.
It'll be interestiong to see how the daughter turns out and if she absorbed any of her rich and successful father's behavior and deems it acceptable.  So far so good, though.
 
2013-11-15 10:08:43 AM

I_C_Weener: One is hate speech.  The other is an observation?  I dunno.  All those people are alike to me.


 Liberals, I mean.


Liberals found the United States, derpity.
 
2013-11-15 10:09:02 AM

rocky_howard: The insulting part of cocksucker doesn't lie in the act of cock sucking but on the fact that the person does it to anyone. Like a cheap whore.


It was specifically a degrading term for a gay man. Now it's more of a general vulgarity. A bit like the way that in America "coont" is taken as a slur against women but in the rest of the English speaking word it's purely rude without any specific reference to gender.

Or in certain circles in Glasgow, just another way of saying "person."

As far as I can tell the related current slurs against gay men generally have to do with anal sex rather than oral.  (arse bandit, uphill gardener, fudgepacker, etc) Similarly, the terms don't specify the gender of the anus but the slur is in the implied gender. Perhaps they'll shift meaning as well and become non-bigoted swear words.
 
2013-11-15 10:09:40 AM

Nana's Vibrator: Well, yes, he's an asshole, but I think in all of the insults, he just says the first things that come to mind, which would be the things he (sadly) hears when people are insulting each other.  He probably doesn't even think about the collateral damage.  He's an actor.  He reads from the script.  He doesn't write it.  Had he dug down and improvised and went after blacks or Jewish people or something a little less common when flippantly insulting someone, I'd say his problem is on a much larger scale.
/still shouldn't have said it.


The problem lies in that he considers himself to be some sort of activist and he has a very holier-than-thou persona when he plays that role. But then, he's always had an outsized ego and been a prima donna. If he wasn't such a good comic actor, I don't know why anyone would put up with him.

/And, in the case of the Jack Ryan movies, they didn't.
//Claiming he was God in "Malice" was probably the most true-to-life performance he ever did.
 
2013-11-15 10:11:33 AM
What exactly wrong with disliking homosexuals? You actually expect everyone in the world to love each other unconditionally? If you're offended by what he said, maybe you should try sucking less cock.
 
2013-11-15 10:15:35 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: I_C_Weener: One is hate speech.  The other is an observation?  I dunno.  All those people are alike to me.


 Liberals, I mean.

Liberals found the United States, derpity.


The United States wasn't here when the Native Americans found this continent!  Derp.
 
2013-11-15 10:16:15 AM

duffblue: What exactly wrong with disliking homosexuals? You actually expect everyone in the world to love each other unconditionally? If you're offended by what he said, maybe you should try sucking less cock.


What exactly you talking 'bout, Willis?
 
2013-11-15 10:17:20 AM

Gordon Bennett: It was specifically a degrading term for a gay man. Now it's more of a general vulgarity. A bit like the way that in America "coont" is taken as a slur against women but in the rest of the English speaking word it's purely rude without any specific reference to gender.


Yeah, i'm sure when it started it was gay related, but I doubt most people who use it nowadays mean it towards gays. Sure, there's the odd bigot, but yeah.

While I understand their intentions, the endgame for the crusade against insults is a world with no insults. But not because people don't want to insult, but because they'll have to hold back for fear of retaliation.  I think the heart attack rates will skyrocket.

What about we try to get rid of the things that get people to insult others? Like fricking paparazzi. No insult in the entire world is as disgusting as the paparazzi. That's probably the lowest form of life on the planet.
 
2013-11-15 10:19:38 AM
Alec Baldwin admits he is many things, but a homophobe is not one of them; he did not call a paparazzo a "c*cksucking f*g," he called him a "c*cksucking fathead." Wait, how is that any better?

It is not better, maybe more insulting.

Calling somebody a c*cksucking f*g would only be insulting if the person was not gay, if they were gay it wold merely be redundant like calling them a f*g f*g.

Unless of course you think the term f*g is insulting or has it become more acceptable like the term queer?


On the other hand calling a person a c*cksucking fathead could be insulting if they were not a c*cksucker or a fathead. Now it is possible that the person was indeed a c*cksucker but not a fathead or a fathead but not a c*cksucker so it would still be insulting.
 
2013-11-15 10:20:09 AM
Anybody reporting this on MSNBC?
 
2013-11-15 10:20:49 AM
He's a despicable, hypocritical, elitist douchebag liberal.  I disagree with every single one of his political views, and find his kind of "debate" to be destructive to the very core of public discourse that made this country great.  That being said, for some reason I bet I'd love to have a beer or 12 with the guy.

/ Feel the same way about Clinton.  Bill - not Hilary.  She would be a bummer to get drunk with.
 
2013-11-15 10:25:39 AM
I like how people think that his character on 30 Rock wasn't exactly like Tracy Morgans: a slightly hyperbolic extension of themselves... yet truly not THAT off of real life.
 
2013-11-15 10:25:45 AM
blogs.laweekly.com
You can quote him on that.
 
2013-11-15 10:26:41 AM

elvindeath: He's a despicable, hypocritical, elitist douchebag liberal.  I disagree with every single one of his political views, and find his kind of "debate" to be destructive to the very core of public discourse that made this country great.  That being said, for some reason I bet I'd love to have a beer or 12 with the guy.

/ Feel the same way about Clinton.  Bill - not Hilary.  She would be a bummer to get drunk with.


Liberals who look down on gays? IMPOSSIBLE.
 
2013-11-15 10:33:24 AM

elvindeath: That being said, for some reason I bet I'd love to have a beer or 12 with the guy.


Here's his HTT episode with David Brooks
http://www.wnyc.org/radio/#/ondemand/242073

And the one with George Will
http://www.wnyc.org/radio/#/ondemand/239059

They obviously disagree, but everyone is civil and the discussion is lively.
 
2013-11-15 10:37:16 AM

meanmutton: Sybarite: Oh well then, using a slur intended to degrade someone by comparing them to a person who performs oral sex on men (namely women and gay men) is perfectly fine.

Kind of like when people use the term "teabagger"?



Exactly.
 
2013-11-15 10:39:40 AM
 duffblue: maybe you should try sucking less cock.

You shut your whore mouth. No man, gay or straight should ever suggest less cock sucking.
 
2013-11-15 10:41:19 AM

Digitalstrange: duffblue: maybe you should try sucking less cock.

You shut your whore mouth. No man, gay or straight should ever suggest less cock sucking.


A world with more blowjobs is a better world.
 
2013-11-15 10:42:33 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: I_C_Weener: One is hate speech.  The other is an observation?  I dunno.  All those people are alike to me.


 Liberals, I mean.

Liberals found the United States, derpity.


The vikings were liberals?
 
2013-11-15 10:42:35 AM
I don't understand how Baldwin is still so popular, after all of the bs that has fallen from his mouth.  Has the guy got Tourette's or something?
 
2013-11-15 10:51:45 AM

Onkel Buck: HotIgneous Intruder: I_C_Weener: One is hate speech.  The other is an observation?  I dunno.  All those people are alike to me.


 Liberals, I mean.

Liberals found the United States, derpity.

The vikings were liberals?


They are resonsible for the Love Boat incident, are they not?
 
2013-11-15 10:55:01 AM

metallion: I don't understand how Baldwin is still so popular, after all of the bs that has fallen from his mouth.  Has the guy got Tourette's or something?


He's an asshole but he's a good actor.  If you didn't watch things featuring assholes, there wouldn't be a whole lot left to watch.
 
2013-11-15 11:00:52 AM
How the fark does he get off calling ANYONE a Fathead.  Has he looked in a mirror?
 
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