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(The Consumerist)   Bad news: MPAA wants the cops called when people take photos during movie screenings. Good news: Free movies for cops   (consumerist.com) divider line 129
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2013-11-15 08:14:46 AM  
People still go to movie theaters?
 
2013-11-15 08:37:39 AM  
Yes, that's what law enforcement should be doing.
 
2013-11-15 08:47:23 AM  
If you have your phone out during a movie, it doesn't matter whether you're using it to take stills or record the whole picture, because you're still an unmitigated asshole for having your phone out during the movie.
 
2013-11-15 08:47:26 AM  
I usually attend a theater that makes is clear up front that if you use your cell phone in any way during the film, you will be escorted from the theater and not allowed back in. I have never seen anyone using one there.
 
2013-11-15 08:53:10 AM  

nekom: People still go to movie theaters?


I had to, I couldn't stop myself when I saw the trailers for Gravity. That shiat in IMAX 3D was da bomb
 
2013-11-15 09:10:16 AM  

Pocket Ninja: If you have your phone out during a movie, it doesn't matter whether you're using it to take stills or record the whole picture, because you're still an unmitigated asshole for having your phone out during the movie.


And the correct response is to say to the manager, "His phone just mysteriously took flight and smashed into the wall. It was the strangest thing!" with no cops or paperwork involved.
 
2013-11-15 10:23:13 AM  
 
2013-11-15 10:24:40 AM  

nekom: People still go to movie theaters?


Sometimes, I feel like a particular movie (space, explosions, kaiju) is worth making the trek out to the valley to see a non-3d imax matinee for $5 when few (if any) others are there.

Every once in a while there's a movie of a thing I'm a fan of coming out, and seeing it with the huge crowd of other fans is worth the $15 I'll likely pay.
 
2013-11-15 10:33:37 AM  
Of course they do
 
2013-11-15 10:38:57 AM  
The MPAA wants a lot of stupid things. That's half the reason I stopped going to movies more than ten years ago. The outrageous prices would be the other half. In fact, I'm at the point now where if it's not on Netflix streaming I'm probably not going to watch it.

I also haven't bought more than maybe two CDs or album downloads in the last decade that weren't on indie labels thanks to the RIAAs stupidity.

If I were a member of either of those screwball groups I'd sue them to get my membership fee back. Those two organizations are about the single best source of free advertising places like Pirate Bay could ever have hoped for.
 
2013-11-15 10:40:58 AM  

nekom: People still go to movie theaters?


Yep. Must suck being poor.
 
2013-11-15 10:43:50 AM  
I do occasionally get the urge to go see a big-budget SFX-fest movie in a theater.  Unfortunately for them, the movie industry has made it too expensive and too inconvenient.  You want the model to be that I go pay for a ticket, then come home and pay you to watch it again in my house?

Then you need to get ticket prices under control.  This $15-is-the-new-normal BS is just costing you more than it earns, I guarantee it.  You know you have a problem when even the teenage ticket-takers look apologetic when reading the prices to customers.  They know it's unreasonable; why don't you?

Then you need to make first-run windows decent.  Two weeks and it's gone from all but one showing, then entirely gone the 3rd week so you can get a jump-start on those overpriced DVDs I won't buy?  Not a big enough window to fit into my schedule.

DVD prices and shenanigans need to get under control.  I'm not giving you $30 for the cut-down crap version with no features because you want to sell a better one two years from now for more cash.

The point is, I'm not giving you ANYTHING.  You have priced and shenanigan-ed your way out of markets where I'm willing to spend my hard-earned cash.  All of your attempts to squeeze more cash from me have dried up the tap, instead.  I can't be the only one.  If you can't be bothered to show up on Netflix eventually, I have simply learned not to care.  If I miss out on good film because of it, that's on YOU needing to be so damned greedy about it, and I will not pay the likes of you for the privilege.
 
2013-11-15 10:47:41 AM  
I'm old school.

I have a VHS camcorder that I set up for that purpose.
 
2013-11-15 10:54:33 AM  

grinding_journalist: nekom: People still go to movie theaters?

Sometimes, I feel like a particular movie (space, explosions, kaiju) is worth making the trek out to the valley to see a non-3d imax matinee for $5 when few (if any) others are there.

Every once in a while there's a movie of a thing I'm a fan of coming out, and seeing it with the huge crowd of other fans is worth the $15 I'll likely pay.


For me the only time I will watch a movie in the theater is probably the last week of it being shown.  My wife and me and probably 3 other couples in a theater.  No basking in the glow of all the kids texting during the movie, I can actually crack jokes to my wife without her freaking out about bothering other people and usually it is a bit cheaper.
 
2013-11-15 10:57:14 AM  

TheOtherGuy: I do occasionally get the urge to go see a big-budget SFX-fest movie in a theater.  Unfortunately for them, the movie industry has made it too expensive and too inconvenient.  You want the model to be that I go pay for a ticket, then come home and pay you to watch it again in my house?

Then you need to get ticket prices under control.  This $15-is-the-new-normal BS is just costing you more than it earns, I guarantee it.  You know you have a problem when even the teenage ticket-takers look apologetic when reading the prices to customers.  They know it's unreasonable; why don't you?

Then you need to make first-run windows decent.  Two weeks and it's gone from all but one showing, then entirely gone the 3rd week so you can get a jump-start on those overpriced DVDs I won't buy?  Not a big enough window to fit into my schedule.

DVD prices and shenanigans need to get under control.  I'm not giving you $30 for the cut-down crap version with no features because you want to sell a better one two years from now for more cash.

The point is, I'm not giving you ANYTHING.  You have priced and shenanigan-ed your way out of markets where I'm willing to spend my hard-earned cash.  All of your attempts to squeeze more cash from me have dried up the tap, instead.  I can't be the only one.  If you can't be bothered to show up on Netflix eventually, I have simply learned not to care.  If I miss out on good film because of it, that's on YOU needing to be so damned greedy about it, and I will not pay the likes of you for the privilege.



The way I combat this or deal with it is my almost always getting the buy one get one free tickets from fandango that keep coming up. Since I watch maybe 5-6 movies a year in the theater, this works out fine. I think this year would be the very first time that I've seen 7 movies in the theater. Ton of change saved this way.

I buy blurays only and either wait for them to come cheap used or get deals that make them around $5 a disc. I have over 200 BR discs and have NEVER paid the full price whatever it is. I did the math on my collection and it averaged $5 a disc. Between that and redbox, netflix and Amazon prime. I'm more than content with my movie watching habits. So really I don't have much to complain.
 
2013-11-15 10:58:59 AM  
roflmaonow:

The way I combat this or deal with it is by almost always getting the buy one get one free tickets from fandango that keep coming up. Since I watch maybe 5-6 movies a year in the theater, this works out fine. I think this year would be the very first time that I've seen 7 movies in the theater. Ton of change saved this way.

I buy blurays only and either wait for them to come cheap used or get deals that make them around $5 a disc. I have ...


FTFM.
 
2013-11-15 10:59:04 AM  

nekom: People still go to movie theaters?


Only to talk.
 
2013-11-15 10:59:20 AM  
I love that I have an Alamo Drafthouse minutes from my home!

Farking around with a cellphone during the movie...your ass is getting tossed out!!
 
2013-11-15 11:00:53 AM  
I know a girl who works at a movie theatre... she just 'borrows' the DVD that the movie comes out on and burns 10 copies to give to friends.
 
2013-11-15 11:05:02 AM  

diaphoresis: I know a girl who works at a movie theatre... she just 'borrows' the DVD that the movie comes out on and burns 10 copies to give to friends.


Nowadays the theater show 4k resolution movies almost twice that of Blurays so she'd have to be pretty tech savvy to figure out a way to burn those.
 
2013-11-15 11:07:47 AM  

diaphoresis: I know a girl who works at a movie theatre... she just 'borrows' the DVD that the movie comes out on and burns 10 copies to give to friends.


But they're watermarked in some method.  She may be visited by MPAA hired goons.
 
2013-11-15 11:09:02 AM  

skozlaw: The outrageous prices would be the other half.



Ticket prices (inflation adjusted) are about where they were in the late 80's, and are lower than they were in the late 60's.
 
2013-11-15 11:09:15 AM  

TheOtherGuy: big-budget SFX-fest movie


TheOtherGuy: ticket prices under control


There's half your problem.

Pick one. If you want movies with $100,000,000 and up budgets where the robots and super-people look real it's going to cost you a lot more.

They really ought to adjust the prices though to be movie-specific. It should not cost $10 to buy a ticket for a $100,000,000 movie and $10 to buy a ticket to see the $5,000,000 movie playing right next to it.
 
2013-11-15 11:11:47 AM  
Movies are expensive.  So go watch a Tyler Perry movie and you get a double feature - the crap on the screen and the unabashed noisemaking in the audience.
 
2013-11-15 11:13:45 AM  

skozlaw: TheOtherGuy: big-budget SFX-fest movie

TheOtherGuy: ticket prices under control

There's half your problem.

Pick one. If you want movies with $100,000,000 and up budgets where the robots and super-people look real it's going to cost you a lot more.

They really ought to adjust the prices though to be movie-specific. It should not cost $10 to buy a ticket for a $100,000,000 movie and $10 to buy a ticket to see the $5,000,000 movie playing right next to it.


You know how I know you don't know how much movies cost to make?

//if you're watching an actual movie with a 5 mil budget, you're watching IFC or at the Ritz where they don't show 100 mil blockbuster movies.
 
2013-11-15 11:15:22 AM  

nekom: People still go to movie theaters?


No.  They don't.  Those 20 million dollar paychecks that go to Arnold, Stallone, Neeson, Cruise, Jolie, Depp and RDJ are highly subsidized by the government.
 
2013-11-15 11:16:32 AM  

diaphoresis: I know a girl who works at a movie theatre... she just 'borrows' the DVD that the movie comes out on and burns 10 copies to give to friends.


That's not how it works. Not even slightly.
 
2013-11-15 11:24:16 AM  
Maybe if we just punish them harder, they'll want to spend more money with us. Stupid consumers.

-the MPAA
 
2013-11-15 11:28:19 AM  

diaphoresis: I know a girl who works at a movie theatre... she just 'borrows' the DVD that the movie comes out on and burns 10 copies to give to friends.


They are shipped on hard drives now.

Except for porno theaters, they still just show DVDs.
 
2013-11-15 11:32:22 AM  

nekom: People still go to movie theaters?


I went last weekend to see Thor. (movie review: pretty good). I made the mistake of attending the evening showing. The people behind me talked through the entire movie, and a girl three seats down spent the entire film staring at her phone.

The secrets for good movie watching, which I learned years ago: 1) Never go on opening weekend. The movie will still be there a week later, with smaller crowds and fewer assholes; and 2) attend the first showing after the matinee prices end. This way you avoid the cheapskates and kids early in the day, and obnoxious teenagers later. The only people who attend this showing are folk who actually want to watch the movie.
 
2013-11-15 11:35:30 AM  

coeyagi: skozlaw: TheOtherGuy: big-budget SFX-fest movie

TheOtherGuy: ticket prices under control

There's half your problem.

Pick one. If you want movies with $100,000,000 and up budgets where the robots and super-people look real it's going to cost you a lot more.

They really ought to adjust the prices though to be movie-specific. It should not cost $10 to buy a ticket for a $100,000,000 movie and $10 to buy a ticket to see the $5,000,000 movie playing right next to it.

You know how I know you don't know how much movies cost to make?

//if you're watching an actual movie with a 5 mil budget, you're watching IFC or at the Ritz where they don't show 100 mil blockbuster movies.


I know you're mostly right, but Bad Grandpa was made for $15m and there were at least 5 movies last year that were made for less than that and finished in the Top 50 for annual box office.

And aren't most blockbusters in the $200m range nowadays?  I mean, Iron Man 3, Man of Steel, Oz the Great and Powerful, World War Z, and Stark Trek Into Darkness all came in at $190m+.
 
2013-11-15 11:52:09 AM  

rugman11: coeyagi: skozlaw: TheOtherGuy: big-budget SFX-fest movie

TheOtherGuy: ticket prices under control

There's half your problem.

Pick one. If you want movies with $100,000,000 and up budgets where the robots and super-people look real it's going to cost you a lot more.

They really ought to adjust the prices though to be movie-specific. It should not cost $10 to buy a ticket for a $100,000,000 movie and $10 to buy a ticket to see the $5,000,000 movie playing right next to it.

You know how I know you don't know how much movies cost to make?

//if you're watching an actual movie with a 5 mil budget, you're watching IFC or at the Ritz where they don't show 100 mil blockbuster movies.

I know you're mostly right, but Bad Grandpa was made for $15m and there were at least 5 movies last year that were made for less than that and finished in the Top 50 for annual box office.

And aren't most blockbusters in the $200m range nowadays?  I mean, Iron Man 3, Man of Steel, Oz the Great and Powerful, World War Z, and Stark Trek Into Darkness all came in at $190m+.


The Purge cost $3 million to make (I think they shot in the producers house) and grossed $60 million.

Some times the low budget films have a higher return than the blockbusters.
 
2013-11-15 11:54:01 AM  

Pocket Ninja: If you have your phone out during a movie, it doesn't matter whether you're using it to take stills or record the whole picture, because you're still an unmitigated asshole for having your phone out during the movie.


If I can't check in or take a selfie I have no proof I was there having more fun then my friends sitting at home or at work. If I can't do that its not even worth going.
 
2013-11-15 11:56:21 AM  

nekom: People still go to movie theaters?


Yep, there are still movies that aren't the same in your living room as they are on the big screen. Of course, we only go to 2-3 a year.

I guess we're not as hip as you, though.
 
2013-11-15 12:01:10 PM  

roflmaonow: TheOtherGuy: I do occasionally get the urge to go see a big-budget SFX-fest movie in a theater.  Unfortunately for them, the movie industry has made it too expensive and too inconvenient.  You want the model to be that I go pay for a ticket, then come home and pay you to watch it again in my house?

Then you need to get ticket prices under control.  This $15-is-the-new-normal BS is just costing you more than it earns, I guarantee it.  You know you have a problem when even the teenage ticket-takers look apologetic when reading the prices to customers.  They know it's unreasonable; why don't you?

Then you need to make first-run windows decent.  Two weeks and it's gone from all but one showing, then entirely gone the 3rd week so you can get a jump-start on those overpriced DVDs I won't buy?  Not a big enough window to fit into my schedule.

DVD prices and shenanigans need to get under control.  I'm not giving you $30 for the cut-down crap version with no features because you want to sell a better one two years from now for more cash.

The point is, I'm not giving you ANYTHING.  You have priced and shenanigan-ed your way out of markets where I'm willing to spend my hard-earned cash.  All of your attempts to squeeze more cash from me have dried up the tap, instead.  I can't be the only one.  If you can't be bothered to show up on Netflix eventually, I have simply learned not to care.  If I miss out on good film because of it, that's on YOU needing to be so damned greedy about it, and I will not pay the likes of you for the privilege.


The way I combat this or deal with it is my almost always getting the buy one get one free tickets from fandango that keep coming up. Since I watch maybe 5-6 movies a year in the theater, this works out fine. I think this year would be the very first time that I've seen 7 movies in the theater. Ton of change saved this way.

I buy blurays only and either wait for them to come cheap used or get deals that make them around $5 a disc. I have ...


I hear you, but you DO realize that it's the theaters that set the pricing and decide how long they are going to run the movie, right? Not the studios?
 
2013-11-15 12:02:02 PM  
On the one hand I think it's ridiculous that a private corporation can use the police as its own personal goon squad.

On the other hand, having someone who uses a cell phone in a theater dragged out screaming and then beaten to a bloody pulp is really enticing.  Is there any way we could have them killed?
 
2013-11-15 12:04:01 PM  

skozlaw: The MPAA wants a lot of stupid things.


Protecting a copyrighted piece is "stupid"?

OK...
 
2013-11-15 12:04:20 PM  

diaphoresis: I know a girl who works at a movie theatre... she just 'borrows' the DVD that the movie comes out on and burns 10 copies to give to friends.


bullshiat.
 
2013-11-15 12:05:01 PM  

paygun: On the one hand I think it's ridiculous that a private corporation can use the police as its own personal goon squad.

On the other hand, having someone who uses a cell phone in a theater dragged out screaming and then beaten to a bloody pulp is really enticing.   Is there any way we could have them killed?


"Mistake" the cell phone for a gun in a stand your ground state.
 
2013-11-15 12:06:17 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: hired goons.


Hired goons?
 
2013-11-15 12:06:56 PM  

nekom: People still go to movie theaters?


Only the troglodytes who still own TVs.
 
2013-11-15 12:09:58 PM  

Spaced Lion: I_Am_Weasel: hired goons.

Hired goons?


Hired goons.

profile.ak.fbcdn.net
 
2013-11-15 12:11:30 PM  
Why the fark should local tax dollars be used to enforce corporate intellectual property rights? Police don't have time or manpower to locate stolen tangible property.
 
2013-11-15 12:16:19 PM  

Jizz Master Zero: diaphoresis: I know a girl who works at a movie theatre... she just 'borrows' the DVD that the movie comes out on and burns 10 copies to give to friends.

That's not how it works. Not even slightly.


She's from Canada, you wouldn't know her.
 
2013-11-15 12:45:12 PM  

paygun: On the one hand I think it's ridiculous that a private corporation can use the police as its own personal goon squad.



I agree.  I'm assuming you don't own any Apple products on principle then.
 
2013-11-15 12:50:12 PM  
And people in hell want ice water. So what?
 
2013-11-15 12:55:02 PM  

Mikey1969: Protecting a copyrighted piece is "stupid"?


impruvism.com
 
2013-11-15 01:05:15 PM  

Sybarite: I usually attend a theater that makes is clear up front that if you use your cell phone in any way during the film, you will be escorted from the theater and not allowed back in. I have never seen anyone using one there.


I would gladly pay extra, and go to more movies, if a theater near me enacted this policy.

Last film I went to, this douchecanoe in front of me pulls his phone out to text, blinding people behind him; then gets rage-bonery at me because I whispered to him to please cover the screen. He even followed me afterwards, trying to pick a fight. Theater management couldn't have cared less. Okay, message sent. *upgrades Netflix*
 
2013-11-15 01:05:28 PM  

skozlaw: Mikey1969: Protecting a copyrighted piece is "stupid"?

[impruvism.com image 327x254]


So what you're saying is that you have nothing... You have to act to protect your copyright, or you can lose it. It means people come across as dicks, but if they ignore it, and someone can prove that they are ignoring it and know about the infringement, then they can lose the copyright.

But I'm sure this is all over your head. Let's put it this way: They invested money in the movie, they have every right to keep it from getting distributed for free. I copy plenty of movies, but I don't biatch and whine when they update copy protection, as long as the legit copies still play in my DVD player. Same goes for protecting their copyright when the movie is showing at a theater. Besides, people who whip out their cell phones for any reason other than to dismiss a call, mute them, or turn them off, deserve to have them shoved up their asses sideways, so I would think that merely having the cops called on you would be getting off easy...
 
2013-11-15 01:05:41 PM  
The crappy content coming out of Hollywood doesn't even motivate me enough to torrent. I just wait for it to show up on Netflix.
 
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