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2013-11-15 07:01:14 AM  
5 votes:
If Blacks would start addressing the problems in their community, instead of blaming every problem on white folks, you won't have baseball teams, or everything else, moving out of black areas into white areas

And, the White Guilt Liberals who pander do not help, either.  There is no group of dumber buttfarks than White Guilt Liberals.  You're not helping

Time for folks to grow up.  Get a grip on reality
2013-11-14 09:19:05 PM  
3 votes:

dr_blasto: cman: Let me say something else, too

If this incident can't even open your eyes to the racist moral panic then I am afraid you are a lost soul

I don't even know what this means.

I can say, the blackmail scams by major league sports wherein they manage to claw money out of taxpayers who - eagerly - throw that cash at the teams is funny. I've read about plenty of splits (stadium costs) where the split was 50-50. 50% taxpayer funded, 50% funded with money the team was given by municipalities through outright cash handoffs, tax breaks and other similar grifts.


Many are seeing racism in things that normal people wouldn't consider racist.

This is a good example of this.

They see racism because thats what they want or expect to see.
2013-11-14 09:02:14 PM  
2 votes:
Oh FFS...

THE BRAVES MOVED BECAUSE ATLANTA REFUSED TO GIVE IN TO THEIR shiatTY DEMANDS

Its not about race; its about money, and a BIG ASS stadium.
2013-11-15 02:25:53 PM  
1 vote:

ClintBartonWannabe: cman: Oh FFS...

THE BRAVES MOVED BECAUSE ATLANTA REFUSED TO GIVE IN TO THEIR shiatTY DEMANDS

Its not about race; its about money, and a BIG ASS stadium.

The new stadium is supposed to seat fewer people than Turner Field.


You're missing the point...It's not a "BIG ASS stadium" as in a stadium that is big-ass. It's a stadium that is built for big asses. Big, American, fat, southern-fried, cottage-cheese asses.
2013-11-15 10:54:43 AM  
1 vote:
White Sox fan here. I think the fact that the South Siders are located on (surprise) the South Side scares away some of the tourists. Of course the tourists would rather see a game at Wrigley regardless so that point may be moot. But I would be sad if the White Sox moved out of Bridgeport (technically they're in the Armour Square neighborhood but no one counts that). Bridgeport is, in my opinion, one of the most awesome and low key areas in Chicago. And being a south side neighborhood, many people are surprised that Bridgeport isn't a black neighborhood, but more of a mix between hispanic and old school Irish and Polish. Of course to the east of the stadium is Bronzeville. And although that neighborhood (which is majority black, hence the name) is improving, it still a little sketchy.
I dunno. Maybe it's because I'm a Sox fan, or maybe it's because I'm actually from Chicago. But I prefer Bridgeport to that garbage that is Wrigleyville.

What were we talking about again?
2013-11-15 09:21:56 AM  
1 vote:
The only color that matters is green
2013-11-15 07:11:39 AM  
1 vote:

FloridaFarkTag: If Blacks would start addressing the problems in their community, instead of blaming every problem on white folks, you won't have baseball teams, or everything else, moving out of black areas into white areas

And, the White Guilt Liberals who pander do not help, either.  There is no group of dumber buttfarks than White Guilt Liberals.  You're not helping

Time for folks to grow up.  Get a grip on reality


So in your backhanded racist way, you are admitting that the Braves decision is based on race?  Got it.
2013-11-15 03:13:14 AM  
1 vote:

slayer199: After reading TFA, it looks more like they're moving closer to their fan base (irrespective of race) than anything else.  If their fan base is wealthier...and they can build a new stadium complete with more luxury boxes and amenities, they can charge more and make more money.

The sad thing about it to me is that Turner Field isn't even 20 years old.  That's the real insanity as I highly doubt the Braves have paid off the costs of Turner Field.  Taxpayers will be on the hook for a good portion of the new stadium.  If it was financed only by the ownership, sure..move the team wherever you want.  That isn't the case and taxpayers shouldn't have to foot the bill as the real economic impact of having a team in your city never is as great as they make it out to be.


That's just pitiful though.

I'm a Cards fan so I admit that I'm a little biased I'm a little biased but Busch Stadium is in the heart of "America's Most Dangerous City" where they have been a rash of car break-ins so frequent, the city had to pass an ordinance requiring each parking lot to have someone on guard to watch it while a game is going on. We also have a lot of homeless people as well that I walk by everytime on the way to Busch Stadium. We had a massive highway project in which one of the main arteries downtown was under reconstruction and caused a lot of traffic backups a few years ago.

Even with all of that going on, we still had roughly 40,000 each game. So when I hear that Braves fans didn't want to go to Turner Field because of traffic and the fact the stadium is in a bad neighborhood, I have little sympathy for them and actually says a lot about them than anything else.

/rant off
2013-11-15 12:10:36 AM  
1 vote:

God_Almighty_Himself: steamingpile: Whats ironic is that area is a lot more racially diverse than quite a few stadiums up north but hey why let facts get in the way.

The Voting Rights Act officially established that people in southern states are inherently more racist than northerners.


Yeah, having lived and worked in both areas I would dispute that notion.

They may have let them vote but that doesnt mean they counted their vote or ever respected their opinions, there is a reason why blacks equate unions with racism and why they chose to move south for better jobs over staying up north.

The influx of blacks to the south dispute your thought process.
2013-11-15 12:09:02 AM  
1 vote:
Black guy here.....Atlanta is a terrible town for pro sports.  The old stadium was hard to get too in a bad neighborhood.  A stadium can be many things, inconvenient isn't one of them.
2013-11-14 11:54:42 PM  
1 vote:

steamingpile: Whats ironic is that area is a lot more racially diverse than quite a few stadiums up north but hey why let facts get in the way.


The Voting Rights Act officially established that people in southern states are inherently more racist than northerners.
2013-11-14 10:07:40 PM  
1 vote:
Supporting the move to Cobb county hinges, according to Cobb County GOP chairman Joe Dendy, on not raising taxes on Cobb county residents and making sure the transportation situation is about:

"moving cars in and around Cobb and surrounding counties from our north and east where most Braves fans travel from, and not moving people into Cobb by rail from Atlanta"

To me, these two conditions seem contradictory.   What rational reason would Dendy have to exclude people from Atlanta?   Given that the success of the entire enterprise depends on getting people to the park and the tax revenue they generate it would make sense to make it accessible to as many people as possible. Given the uncertain traffic situation of the area I think that customers arriving by rail (and not having to clog the streets or the parking lots) would be preferred.   But why not from Atlanta?

And in regard to this being a racist moral panic?  That's ridiculous.  Any time anything moves from a poorer urban area to a more affluent suburban area the question of white flight will come up, especially in the South.  It's certainly not all that's happening here with the Braves move, but I'm sure it's part of it.
2013-11-14 09:03:43 PM  
1 vote:
The comments in TFA are surprisingly informative.
2013-11-14 08:12:39 PM  
1 vote:
In the end, as Joe Dendy inadvertently revealed, the move is about placating white suburban Braves fans who feel uncomfortable in a black neighborhood.

Sounds more like "let's move the team closer to its fan base, but we can't actually SAY that".
 
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