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(Huffington Post)   After filling in for Jon Stewart this summer, John Oliver has earned himself a talk show on HBO   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 56
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2013-11-14 04:52:07 PM
Just another foreigner stealing American jobs.

/well deserved, congrats
 
2013-11-14 04:54:42 PM
Only sad part is he's leaving The Daily Show and moving to HBO, which I don't get.

/Awesome for him though, he was fantastic
 
2013-11-14 04:57:51 PM

scottydoesntknow: which I don't get.


And to clarify, I get why he's leaving.

I don't get the channel.
 
2013-11-14 05:09:57 PM
Yeah, I figured after that highly successful stint he would be a hot property and his days as a lowly correspondent would be numbered.

Which is sad, but hey good for him. I look forward to it.

Also, maybe it will mean more yummy Jessica Williams.
 
2013-11-14 06:35:56 PM

gilgigamesh: Yeah, I figured after that highly successful stint he would be a hot property and his days as a lowly correspondent would be numbered.

Which is sad, but hey good for him. I look forward to it.

Also, maybe it will mean more yummy Jessica Williams.


No kidding:
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2013-11-14 07:56:20 PM
But I don't want to have to subscribe to HBO.
 
2013-11-14 08:07:56 PM
Well earned. I wish him luck.
Sorry to see him go though.
 
2013-11-14 08:13:40 PM

Bob Falfa: gilgigamesh: Yeah, I figured after that highly successful stint he would be a hot property and his days as a lowly correspondent would be numbered.

Which is sad, but hey good for him. I look forward to it.

Also, maybe it will mean more yummy Jessica Williams.

No kidding:
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She is to be treasured. There are precious few funny, black females.
 
2013-11-14 08:29:36 PM
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2013-11-14 09:50:37 PM
Getting his own show was only a matter of time. It's just too bad it's on HBO. I guess I'll have to get my Oliver fix from The Bugle.
 
2013-11-14 10:23:12 PM
I get HBO, so I am okay with this.
 
2013-11-14 10:39:03 PM
I actually thought they were setting this up for Stewart to move on from TDS and Oliver to take over his spot.
 
2013-11-14 10:45:48 PM

costermonger: Getting his own show was only a matter of time. It's just too bad it's on HBO. I guess I'll have to get my Oliver fix from The Bugle.


Not really surprised, actually As much as I like Jon Stewart, I thought Oliver was better and fresher. Having Oliver on CC would just keep reminding me of that.
 
2013-11-14 11:29:26 PM
Other alumni of "The Daily Show" include Stephen Colbert, Steve Carell and Rob Corddry.

What, no love for Ed Helms?


Bob Falfa: gilgigamesh: Yeah, I figured after that highly successful stint he would be a hot property and his days as a lowly correspondent would be numbered.

Which is sad, but hey good for him. I look forward to it.

Also, maybe it will mean more yummy Jessica Williams.

No kidding:
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I sometimes wonder what's up with her makeup. A lot of the time her skin looks terrible.
 
2013-11-14 11:31:01 PM
After this summer I knew somebody would snap him up for a talk show, but I hoped somebody (Stewart's production company, of course) could create a show around him.  Comedy Central could support 3 talk/comedy shows, or maybe Oliver's show could have been 60 minutes weekly instead of nightly.
 
2013-11-14 11:34:52 PM
Oliver hosted the show better than Stewart has since 2004. They should have handed it to him instead of exiling him to HBO where no one will see him. Stewart needs to move on to something else.
 
2013-11-14 11:39:30 PM
I hope his HBO news comedy show includes a "Sniglets" segment!  Those things are hilarious.
 
2013-11-14 11:41:32 PM
I hope he still has time to do the Bugle.  If this a once-per-week thing it might all work.
 
2013-11-14 11:41:34 PM

poot_rootbeer: I hope his HBO news comedy show includes a "Sniglets" segment!  Those things are hilarious.


Only if they rescue Stewart Pankin from infomercial hell
 
2013-11-14 11:59:10 PM
Daily Show is putting out stars like SNL used to do back in the day.
 
2013-11-15 12:12:50 AM
I thought he was terrible. He fawned and sucked up to the guests too much, he didn't ask any provocative questions, and the interview with Rand Paul was awful -- John just let Paul run all over him and never called out his bullshiat.

A John Oliver talk show won't bring anything that a dozen other talk shows don't do already.
 
2013-11-15 12:36:44 AM

JasonOfOrillia: I hope he still has time to do the Bugle.  If this a once-per-week thing it might all work.


Andy already confirmed that all is good on that front.
 
2013-11-15 12:40:50 AM
I was hoping Comedy Central would put him at 10:30, but it was pretty obvious that he would be leaving TDS and moving to his own show. Good luck to him, hopefully they put the audio up as a podcast like they do with Bill Maher.

Ishkur: I thought he was terrible. He fawned and sucked up to the guests too much, he didn't ask any provocative questions, and the interview with Rand Paul was awful -- John just let Paul run all over him and never called out his bullshiat.


I think he'll get over that, he just wasn't used to playing at that level. As he gets more confident with the lead on a show in his own right, he should get more assertive. As for provocative questions, Jon Stewart has that flaw as well. Remember, these guys are trained in comedy, not political science or journalism. What these guys learn about the ins and outs of politics and reporting, they learn on the job. They don't have that historical backing a serious journalist or political analyst might have. Jon's interview with John Yoo drove that home for me- John Yoo made some wildly false claims about George Washington endorsing torture, and while Stewart might have somewhat dubious of the claim, he didn't have the background or confidence to call Yoo out on it. Yoo walked all over Stewart, because Stewart didn't have the background knowledge in History, Politics or Law to pin him down.

You can't rely on comedians to carry the weight on this.
 
2013-11-15 12:43:31 AM
I want to see Sam Bee run the show next time Stewart is on leave.
 
2013-11-15 12:49:51 AM

cptjeff: think he'll get over that, he just wasn't used to playing at that level. As he gets more confident with the lead on a show in his own right, he should get more assertive. As for provocative questions, Jon Stewart has that flaw as well. Remember, these guys are trained in comedy, not political science or journalism. What these guys learn about the ins and outs of politics and reporting, they learn on the job. They don't have that historical backing a serious journalist or political analyst might have. Jon's interview with John Yoo drove that home for me- John Yoo made some wildly false claims about George Washington endorsing torture, and while Stewart might have somewhat dubious of the claim, he didn't have the background or confidence to call Yoo out on it. Yoo walked all over Stewart, because Stewart didn't have the background knowledge in History, Politics or Law to pin him down.


That's because he's likely been instructed to pull his punches.

Jon hit his zenith as an interviewer with Jim Cramer. By that point he had garnered a reputation as a fierce and aggressive assailant, completely eviscerating a number of Republicans and Republican shills on the show (and even off the show, cf. Tucker Carlson), and he nailed Cramer to the wall. It was so devastating that no one from the right of the the political aisle wanted to come onto his show anymore and it's likely that the producers told him to tone down his rhetoric if he wanted to keep inviting right-wing guests (even if they deserve all the ire).

So ever since then he has gotten soft, irreverent, and doesn't go for the throat anymore. And the number of political guests has gone down significantly, whereas before it was 3/4 were politicos or journalists hawking a book, now it's less than 1/4. More celebrities and Hollywood junk now.

Evidently people with huge egos don't like it when their bullshiat is pointed out to them on live television. Who knew.

But yes, I agree that the John Yoo one was a bit of a mismatch not just in that Stewart was unprepared, but that Yoo was a grandmaster ninja in interview dodgeball.

cptjeff: You can't rely on comedians to carry the weight on this.


As Stewart himself has often pointed out: It's appalling that the only person doing this IS a comedian.
 
2013-11-15 12:54:54 AM
Oliver was greeted with rave reviews for his three months in the anchor chair

Well, he has the not American accent that lefties fap over. He could have had the audience play Plinko and got the same reviews.
 
2013-11-15 01:15:08 AM

Ishkur: And the number of political guests has gone down significantly, whereas before it was 3/4 were politicos or journalists hawking a book, now it's less than 1/4. More celebrities and Hollywood junk now.


There will be more when election season kicks back in again.  You might be right in your assertion, but there has always been an ebb and flow based on elections or lack thereof.
 
2013-11-15 01:29:53 AM

Ishkur: That's because he's likely been instructed to pull his punches.


He owns the show (and Colbert's). He may have been advised to pull his punches, he may have decided to on his own, but nobody can tell him to. I suppose Comedy Central could decline to renew, but they're not that stupid.

Ishkur: But yes, I agree that the John Yoo one was a bit of a mismatch not just in that Stewart was unprepared, but that Yoo was a grandmaster ninja in interview dodgeball.


Yoo knew what he was doing. There were quite a few points where it would have been very, very easy to nail him to the wall for somebody with a reasonably strong grasp of American history, but Stewart seemed entirely unaware of them. You can usually tell when he's choosing what tack to go with on a question. He just seemed entirely unaware during that interview that a lot of the bullshiat Yoo was spewing actually was bullshiat. Yoo obviously went in knowing exactly what Stewart's weaknesses were- Stewart is very well informed on current events, and has a lot of breadth in other areas, but he doesn't have a whole lot of depth. You can come in on him and make assertions on the finer points of history or policy, Stewart won't be able to call you on it effectively. He may try, but if you effectively parry the first question or two and keep pressing the point, he'll back off. He just doesn't have the base of knowledge where he can rebut you himself.

He's fine against generalists who don't have a lot of depth themselves- Jim Kramer being a great example. Jim Kramer really doesn't seem to have any structural underpinnings to his thinking- he just flies by the seat of his pants and takes wild guesses based on a thing or two about a company he heard here or there. Jon Stewart can call you out when you're being hypocritical or lazy in your thinking, or when it's incredibly obvious that there's no there there. But drill down into the weeds with him, and he doesn't have the expertise. When he's interviewing Doris Kearns Goodwin, that's great, and his questions bring her to interesting subjects that she might not otherwise think to discuss. When you have a cynical piece of human shiat like John Yoo on, he can exploit that and use perfectly sound and reasonable logic to build an argument on the foundation of a lie.

Ishkur: As Stewart himself has often pointed out: It's appalling that the only person doing this IS a comedian.


If you think I'm being tough on Stewart, you should hear the things I say when watching Meet the Press. Or any Sunday show, really, I don't want to imply that David Gregory is the only worthless hack occupying a chair that should be given to an intern from the NBC News division. Hell, any of the actors who play an intern on The Newsroom would probably ask more intelligent questions than David Gregory.
 
2013-11-15 01:42:36 AM
While I'm glad for John Oliver, I frankly thought he did nothing but ape all of Jon Stewart's mannerisms, inflections, comic style, the whole schtick. It was like watching Jon Stewart in a different man's body. I didn't feel that Oliver brought anything new or original to the plate, but merely proved himself as a good mimic of a particular style.

Will Oliver do as well on HBO, when he won't have the benefit of the Daily Show writers, and will presumably have to develop his own unique style?

I hope so. But his summer session didn't prove it to me.
 
2013-11-15 01:53:43 AM
Other alumni of "The Daily Show" include Stephen Colbert, Steve Carell and Rob Corddry.

Poor Craig Kilborn. How quickly they forget.
 
2013-11-15 01:55:42 AM

gilgigamesh: Yeah, I figured after that highly successful stint he would be a hot property and his days as a lowly correspondent would be numbered.

Which is sad, but hey good for him. I look forward to it.

Also, maybe it will mean more yummy Jessica Williams.


As long as her only role is to stand in front of the camera and look pretty.  Her delivery is terrible and listening to her voice feels like someone is cleaning my ear with a Q-tip made out of sandpaper.
 
2013-11-15 02:23:17 AM

dababler: I want to see Sam Bee run the show next time Stewart is on leave.


I want to see Sam Bee do the show naked.
 
2013-11-15 02:27:05 AM

cptjeff: He just seemed entirely unaware during that interview that a lot of the bullshiat Yoo was spewing actually was bullshiat.


Which was very much how the John Oliver and Rand Paul interview went.

I wish him luck, but I just didn't see anything Oliver did behind the desk this summer that impressed me. He was functional and adequate most of the time, so good for him carrying the load. But do we really need another Craig Ferguson on late night?
 
2013-11-15 02:28:44 AM
When I heard Stewart was taking a break I was afraid I was going to have to get my news from less reputable sources like CNN or Fox.

*shudder*

Thankfully John Oliver stepped right in and acted like a pro.
 
2013-11-15 02:58:16 AM

Two Dogs Farking: dababler: I want to see Sam Bee run the show next time Stewart is on leave.

I want to see Sam Bee do the show naked.


I do too.

Does that make me a lesbian?
 
2013-11-15 03:04:41 AM

Gyrfalcon: Two Dogs Farking: dababler: I want to see Sam Bee run the show next time Stewart is on leave.

I want to see Sam Bee do the show naked.

I do too.

Does that make me a lesbian?


I think that thread was last night..

http://www.fark.com/comments/8016590/Surprise-not-Public-polls-under es timate-same-sex-attraction-especially-among-Christians&new=1
 
2013-11-15 05:14:02 AM
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2013-11-15 05:19:38 AM
Danger!
 
2013-11-15 06:30:57 AM
 
2013-11-15 06:44:53 AM

Ishkur: cptjeff: He just seemed entirely unaware during that interview that a lot of the bullshiat Yoo was spewing actually was bullshiat.

Which was very much how the John Oliver and Rand Paul interview went.

I wish him luck, but I just didn't see anything Oliver did behind the desk this summer that impressed me. He was functional and adequate most of the time, so good for him carrying the load. But do we really need another Craig Ferguson on late night?


Is that a trick question?
 
2013-11-15 07:27:40 AM
Why not both?
 
2013-11-15 07:37:59 AM
Something else for me to pirate...

I think the people in this thread complaining about these guys not asking tough questions are forgetting that show business is a business. While eviscerating guests would be fun to watch and great for ratings, pretty soon no one would appear on the show and it would fail.

Politicians show up to make their talking points, celebs to hype their latest movie or whatever. If they can't do that because they're shown to be the idiots they often are, they wouldn't show up, would they?
 
2013-11-15 07:46:41 AM

sirrerun: Danger!


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2013-11-15 07:56:27 AM
I'm happy for him, but sad for The Daily Show.  Not that I want Jon to step down any time soon, but if he was to take a backseat, I would have loved Oliver to take it.
 
2013-11-15 08:01:37 AM

Ishkur: Jon hit his zenith as an interviewer with Jim Cramer.


Little tidbit about that interview: the only reason Jim Cramer appeared on the show that night was because the scheduled guest to appear -- CNBC correspondent, Tea Party shill and human-like worm Rick Santelli -- canceled at the last minute after coming down with a severe case of buk-buk-buk-buk-buk-bu-GAWK!!!!
 
2013-11-15 08:26:55 AM
I was hoping Jon Stewart was thinking of packing it in at the Daily Show after almost 14 years to focus on other projects, and this summer was an extended interview for John Oliver, who knocked it out of the park.
 
2013-11-15 08:29:29 AM

Ishkur: cptjeff: He just seemed entirely unaware during that interview that a lot of the bullshiat Yoo was spewing actually was bullshiat.

Which was very much how the John Oliver and Rand Paul interview went.

I wish him luck, but I just didn't see anything Oliver did behind the desk this summer that impressed me. He was functional and adequate most of the time, so good for him carrying the load. But do we really need another Craig Ferguson on late night?


Have you ever listened to the Bugle? That will probably give you a better insight into how Oliver's show will be than his Daily Show stint. Like Stewart he's very political but he probably won't go the "fake news" route the Daily Show does and so won't rely on direct interviews much at all. I expect it will be more like Bill Maher's show except funny and not as douchey.
 
2013-11-15 09:03:47 AM

gilgigamesh: yummy Jessica Williams.


Word son.  Something about her...anyway, yeah.

/brofist
 
2013-11-15 01:12:30 PM
I'm here to say that I like Stewart, but Oliver did a better job while he was gone.

/that is all.
 
2013-11-15 01:41:04 PM

HotWingAgenda: Oliver hosted the show better than Stewart has since 2004. They should have handed it to him instead of exiling him to HBO where no one will see him. Stewart needs to move on to something else.


Wow. We couldn't be watching the same show. For the first two weeks Oliver did his best, which is to say very poor, Jon Stewart impersonation and then it when it was apparent he couldn't do any of the lines the way they were written for humour and effect the writers gave up and let him do his un-funny nasally Brit routine for the rest of it. I couldn't be happier he's going on to fail at being funny somewhere else, as it means we'll get more with the entertaining/funny people like Mandvi, Bee, Jones, and Wilmore.

Jon Oliver is easily replaced by any midlands Brit. Any of them, just pick one at random...
 
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