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(Jezebel)   Miley Cyrus claims to be "one of the biggest feminists in the world", effectively changes definition of feminism   (jezebel.com) divider line 90
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2013-11-14 03:26:41 PM
She's doing what she wants when she wants and making a ton of money doing it.

And a man need not help her.
 
2013-11-14 03:31:38 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: She's doing what she wants when she wants and making a ton of money doing it.

And a man need not help her.


True. I've no use for anything she does creatively and find her act tiresome and without any substance in any artistic sense, but she seems fine doing it. It isn't like she's gone full Lohan or anything. The fact that she does this without any need for some paternalistic acceptance or protection sounds plenty feminist to me.

Of course, I'm not female so it doesn't really matter what I think.
 
2013-11-14 03:36:11 PM
It's pretty unsurprising that she thinks that considering the only "feminism" a lot of young women get exposed to is the liberal/libertarian version which is really just a sly academic reassertion of male power wrapped up in the consumer choice package of "freedom," undermining any analysis of gender as a system.
 
2013-11-14 03:36:16 PM
Feminism - sticking your tongue out like a retard whenever a camera is near.
 
2013-11-14 03:43:03 PM
You keep using that word....
 
2013-11-14 03:44:30 PM
I like that this thread is right on top of the thread where Palin redefines slavery.
 
2013-11-14 03:47:50 PM

oldfarthenry: Feminism - sticking your tongue out like a retard whenever a camera is near.


It actually does a surprisingly good job of dissuading me from thinking of her in any sexual manner, though.  The only problem is that I'm left to actually pay attention to her music.  This cunning plan, I do not think was thought all the way through.
 
2013-11-14 03:54:50 PM
Well, every time she sticks out her butt, I'm sure some people might think of the woman's movement.
 
2013-11-14 03:56:33 PM

Sybarite: It's pretty unsurprising that she thinks that considering the only "feminism" a lot of young women get exposed to is the liberal/libertarian version which is really just a sly academic reassertion of male power wrapped up in the consumer choice package of "freedom," undermining any analysis of gender as a system.


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2013-11-14 04:02:03 PM
She's breaking stereotypes like a wrecking ball.
 
2013-11-14 04:02:50 PM

Sybarite: It's pretty unsurprising that she thinks that considering the only "feminism" a lot of young women get exposed to is the liberal/libertarian version which is really just a sly academic reassertion of male power wrapped up in the consumer choice package of "freedom," undermining any analysis of gender as a system.


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2013-11-14 04:23:25 PM

Sybarite: It's pretty unsurprising that she thinks that considering the only "feminism" a lot of young women get exposed to is the liberal/libertarian version which is really just a sly academic reassertion of male power wrapped up in the consumer choice package of "freedom," undermining any analysis of gender as a system.


You trying to win Bullshiat Bingo or something?
 
2013-11-14 04:50:08 PM

kidakita: Well, every time she sticks out her butt, I'm sure some people might think of the woman's movement.


Actually I think more about animal rights movement when I see her

images.freebeerandhotwings.com
 
2013-11-14 05:10:46 PM

scottydoesntknow: kidakita: Well, every time she sticks out her butt, I'm sure some people might think of the woman's movement.

Actually I think more about animal rights movement when I see her

[images.freebeerandhotwings.com image 506x509]


I'm not white-knighting, and I'll agree that she's lacking somewhat in the booty department, but Jesus, man.  Who the hell comes up with this shiat?
 
2013-11-14 05:17:50 PM
I think she meant to say skank.
 
2013-11-14 05:18:07 PM

scottydoesntknow: kidakita: Well, every time she sticks out her butt, I'm sure some people might think of the woman's movement.

Actually I think more about animal rights movement when I see her


I don't see the resemblance.

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2013-11-14 05:18:37 PM

Clutch2013: I'm not white-knighting, and I'll agree that she's lacking somewhat in the booty department, but Jesus, man. Who the hell comes up with this shiat?


Pedophiles who are angry at her for growing out of Hannah Montana.
 
2013-11-14 05:24:50 PM
The definition has changed, it also has multiple meanings. Women are also not a monolithic demographic with identical interests and goals.
 
2013-11-14 05:26:36 PM
Feminist....
 
2013-11-14 05:28:55 PM
They are confusing promiscuity with freedom.
 
2013-11-14 05:32:55 PM
Isn't been able to do what you want without being judged because of gender the entire goal of feminism?

/I don't judge her because she's female... I judge her because she looks ridiculous...
 
2013-11-14 05:34:19 PM
sure, a pro-sex or sex-positive feminist...
 
2013-11-14 05:37:43 PM
Without recognizing the inherent phallocratic hegemony -Miley Cirrus is in effect simultaneously raping all womyn.
 
2013-11-14 05:38:08 PM
I would love the chance to disappoint her sexually.
 
2013-11-14 05:44:06 PM

Bith Set Me Up: They are confusing promiscuity with freedom.


1) Who's "they"?

2) What makes you think that?

3) Are they mutually exclusive?
 
2013-11-14 05:45:03 PM
It's cute how when rich people call themselves crusaders for the women's movement, they conveniently forget that they get to mouth off because they have money, and feminism becomes a cheap excuse for doing whatever exploitative shiat you want.

/see also: Robin Thicke's video for "Blurred Lines"
//yes, he actually used the words "feminist movement" to describe the video
 
2013-11-14 05:45:27 PM
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She is responsible for her own orgasm.
 
2013-11-14 05:47:37 PM

DarkPascual: Isn't been able to do what you want without being judged because of gender the entire goal of feminism?


Yes, that's correct.   However, a simultaneous side-effect should be that when people call you out on your shiat and you don't get to hide behind being a woman to get people to take it easy on you.
 
2013-11-14 05:48:33 PM
Also, let me add that sexuality in terms of female empowerment is not a monolithic entity with the two options being: sexually conservative or sexually conservative. Let me posit that:

A) Being sexually liberal, and "promiscuous", because it gets all the boys' attention and you want to be liked, and this is the only way you'll find someone, and it's what you're being told to do in order to not be a frigid biatch prude

and

B) Being sexually liberal, and "promiscuous", because you like sex, and know exactly what you want, and aren't afraid to get it, regardless of what other people think

are FAR from the same thing.
 
2013-11-14 05:49:21 PM
She might be the biggest target of inexplicable, absolutely misdirected and undeserved faux-outrage in the world.  That's kind of like being a feminist.
 
2013-11-14 05:50:02 PM

Six_By_Nine: DarkPascual: Isn't been able to do what you want without being judged because of gender the entire goal of feminism?

Yes, that's correct.   However, a simultaneous side-effect should be that when people call you out on your shiat and you don't get to hide behind being a woman to get people to take it easy on you.


Who's doing that?
 
2013-11-14 05:50:34 PM

Six_By_Nine: It's cute how when rich people call themselves crusaders for the women's movement, they conveniently forget that they get to mouth off because they have money, and feminism becomes a cheap excuse for doing whatever exploitative shiat you want.

/see also: Robin Thicke's video for "Blurred Lines"
//yes, he actually used the words "feminist movement" to describe the video


Cute? Like precluding people from a movement based on their income? Guess they're just not as real as you are.
 
2013-11-14 05:50:59 PM

Sybarite: It's pretty unsurprising that she thinks that considering the only "feminism" a lot of young women get exposed to is the liberal/libertarian version which is really just a sly academic reassertion of male power wrapped up in the consumer choice package of "freedom," undermining any analysis of gender as a system.


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2013-11-14 05:52:12 PM

Six_By_Nine: It's cute how when rich people call themselves crusaders for the women's movement, they conveniently forget that they get to mouth off because they have money, and feminism becomes a cheap excuse for doing whatever exploitative shiat you want.

/see also: Robin Thicke's video for "Blurred Lines"
//yes, he actually used the words "feminist movement" to describe the video


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"Thicke binders?"
 
2013-11-14 05:59:26 PM

Hot Carl To Go: Six_By_Nine: It's cute how when rich people call themselves crusaders for the women's movement, they conveniently forget that they get to mouth off because they have money, and feminism becomes a cheap excuse for doing whatever exploitative shiat you want.

/see also: Robin Thicke's video for "Blurred Lines"
//yes, he actually used the words "feminist movement" to describe the video

Cute? Like precluding people from a movement based on their income? Guess they're just not as real as you are.


"I feel like I'm one of the biggest feminists in the world because I tell women to not be scared of anything."
"HA! But you're rich, so you can't be a crusader, and aren't allowed to get a message out. So stop 'mouthing off' by telling women to be fearless. Save that shiat for when you're poor, and... can't get your message out. Yea!"
 
2013-11-14 06:10:59 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: Sybarite: It's pretty unsurprising that she thinks that considering the only "feminism" a lot of young women get exposed to is the liberal/libertarian version which is really just a sly academic reassertion of male power wrapped up in the consumer choice package of "freedom," undermining any analysis of gender as a system.

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Is that Ryan Gosling? What's funny is he was a bigger hardass in Drive than even Ron "Goddamn Ron Perlman" Perlman.
/too bad Perlman's too old for the Batsuit, and Gosling too farking... BLONDE!!!!
 
2013-11-14 06:15:13 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: She's doing what she wants when she wants and making a ton of money doing it.

And a man need not help her.


Feminism: the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men.

The point being, not having to twerk your ass and simulate sex on stage to make the same kind of cash men do.
 
2013-11-14 06:23:45 PM
And her vagina is one of the biggest in the world.
 
2013-11-14 06:23:57 PM

Hot Carl To Go: Six_By_Nine: It's cute how when rich people call themselves crusaders for the women's movement, they conveniently forget that they get to mouth off because they have money, and feminism becomes a cheap excuse for doing whatever exploitative shiat you want.

/see also: Robin Thicke's video for "Blurred Lines"
//yes, he actually used the words "feminist movement" to describe the video

Cute? Like precluding people from a movement based on their income? Guess they're just not as real as you are.


That's not what I said.  I said that rich people (I should have clarified, not all of them, just the ones who put themselves in deeply exploitative situations) tend to slap on the label of "feminist" for shiat that they do, maybe because they're arrogant enough to believe that what they're doing is somehow meaningful, or maybe because they're ignorant that feminism is more than just doing what you want because it feels good.  There's got to be a level of responsibility for the image you put across, if the image you want to put across is "Attention Whore".

And, if you're going to tell me that if a middle- to lower-class woman portrayed themselves the way she does and gets to call it "feminist" AND expects to be taken seriously, you're ignoring reality: Miley gets away with doing whatever the hell she feels like doing because of  money, not because she's heavily invested in the equality of women.

And, I shouldn't have to qualify that with any personal anecdotes about how much more "real" am than anyone else.  But I will say that I'm grateful to the women in my family who taught me how to get by on my brains rather than my ass.
 
2013-11-14 06:24:15 PM
Feminism is bunk anyway.

Egalitarianism is where it's at.
 
2013-11-14 06:31:03 PM
You submitted a Jezebel link. That's bad subby, and you should feel bad!!
 
2013-11-14 06:34:58 PM
From what I remember, she was attractive.  Now she looks like a lesbian.

Yay Feminism?
 
2013-11-14 06:36:50 PM

dr_blasto: The fact that she does this without any need for some paternalistic acceptance or protection sounds plenty feminist to me.


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Would we even know who she was if her father wasn't famous first?
 
2013-11-14 06:38:09 PM
I like her. I get it. Not her music so much, but she's going to be considered a very serious artist in a few years.
 
2013-11-14 06:47:11 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: She's doing what she wants when she wants and making a ton of money doing it.

And a man need not help her.


I'm sorry, would this person have ever reached the national spotlight if it wasn't for her rich, mulletted daddy?
 
2013-11-14 07:04:40 PM

Six_By_Nine: But I will say that I'm grateful to the women in my family who taught me how to get by on my brains rather than my ass.


Some people have brains, others have ass.   Who are you to judge others for getting by with what they were given as opposed to what you were?
 
2013-11-14 07:11:00 PM

scottydoesntknow: kidakita: Well, every time she sticks out her butt, I'm sure some people might think of the woman's movement.

Actually I think more about animal rights movement when I see her

[images.freebeerandhotwings.com image 506x509]


Weird - That site's down, and I got this error message:

Error 503 No healthy backends
 
2013-11-14 07:15:19 PM
Didn't change the definition of feminism at all; only reaffirmed the definition of Myley Cyrus.
 
2013-11-14 07:24:23 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: I like her. I get it. Not her music so much, but she's going to be considered a very serious artist in a few years.


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2013-11-14 07:25:44 PM
Do people really buy into this bullshiat contrived image?
 
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