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(The Atlantic Wire)   New poll shows that only old white people think immigrants "threaten American values", take our jerbs   (theatlanticwire.com) divider line 197
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2013-11-14 01:41:09 PM
Old white racists old, white, racist. Film at 11.
 
2013-11-14 01:43:21 PM
Damn Irish
Damn Italians
Damn Chinese
Damn Germans
Damn Mexicans
Damn (*fill in the blank*)...
 
2013-11-14 01:44:24 PM

rogue49: Damn Irish
Damn Italians
Damn Chinese
Damn Germans
Damn Mexicans
Damn (*fill in the blank*)...


Damn turians taking our jobs!
 
2013-11-14 01:44:28 PM
And soon, someone will be in here saying "gosh, won't it be great when they all die off?"

They don't die off before they teach their children to take over when they're gone, people.
 
2013-11-14 01:44:29 PM

rogue49: Damn Irish
Damn Italians
Damn Chinese
Damn Germans
Damn Mexicans
Damn Vulcans...

 
2013-11-14 01:44:45 PM
I had no idea institutionalized racism was (still) an American value.
 
2013-11-14 01:44:47 PM
Young people still HAVE American Values?
 
2013-11-14 01:45:07 PM
Aka: Republicans
 
2013-11-14 01:47:09 PM
Obama is present.  Surely there is no more racism.  This is post-racial America!
 
2013-11-14 01:48:00 PM

FarkedOver: Obama is president.  Surely there is no more racism.  This is post-racial America!


Sorry. Black people and immigrants stole the letters I was missing off my keyboard.
 
2013-11-14 01:48:27 PM

rogue49: Damn Irish
Damn Italians
Damn Chinese
Damn Germans
Damn Mexicans
Damn (*fill in the blank*)...


Damn Cuban Canadians!

Canubans? Cunuks?
 
2013-11-14 01:49:45 PM
In 20 years, the last of the boomers will be pretty much out of the picture.
This won't be much of a topic then.
 
2013-11-14 01:52:14 PM
If 48 is old then I'm old, white, I might even be a people but I don't think that. I didn't get poled which is a shame because I could use a good poling.

/pole
//that is all
 
2013-11-14 01:52:31 PM
Equating illegal immigrants with legal immigrants is some fallacy that I've forgotten. I better check with Barbara Cesare.
 
2013-11-14 01:52:31 PM
Can we get a definition for 'American values'?  Or is this a case of Area Man fervent defender of what he believes is in the Constitution?
 
2013-11-14 01:52:42 PM

HighOnCraic: rogue49: Damn Irish
Damn Italians
Damn Chinese
Damn Germans
Damn Mexicans
Damn Vulcans...


Damn Vogons are the real job killers.
 
2013-11-14 01:53:09 PM

FarkedOver: FarkedOver: Obama is president.  Surely there is no more racism.  This is post-racial America!

Sorry. Black people and immigrants stole the letters I was missing off my keyboard.


The term you were looking for is "near".
 
2013-11-14 01:54:51 PM

neversubmit: If 48 is old then I'm old, white, I might even be a people but I don't think that. I didn't get poled which is a shame because I could use a good poling.

/pole
//that is all


You know who ELSE liked Poles?

/Wait, I think I did that wrong. . .
 
2013-11-14 01:56:08 PM

Lost Thought 00: Aka: Republicans


Yeah!!  Can't we just kill all these old people?

WTF????
 
2013-11-14 01:56:53 PM

Pinner: In 20 years, the last of the boomers will be pretty much out of the picture.
This won't be much of a topic then.


Every generation has its share of idiots. There is no end in sight.
 
2013-11-14 01:57:39 PM

palelizard: Can we get a definition for 'American values'?


1) Republican
2) Christian
3) White
4) Straight
 
2013-11-14 02:00:25 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: Equating illegal immigrants with legal immigrants is some fallacy that I've forgotten. I better check with Barbara Cesare.


How can you tell the difference? They all look alike.
 
2013-11-14 02:00:29 PM

Calmamity: And soon, someone will be in here saying "gosh, won't it be great when they all die off?"

They don't die off before they teach their children to take over when they're gone, people.


So where exactly should a young white male move to that would make you "non-racists" happy? I'm open to suggestions.
 
2013-11-14 02:00:33 PM

Calmamity: And soon, someone will be in here saying "gosh, won't it be great when they all die off?"

They don't die off before they teach their children to take over when they're gone, people.


If this were true there wouldn't be a generational shift in views, which is exactly what TFA is showing.
 
2013-11-14 02:02:06 PM

palelizard: Can we get a definition for 'American values'?  Or is this a case of Area Man fervent defender of what he believes is in the Constitution?


There is no centralized definition, but generally speaking they focus on the economy, religion, self-empowerment (freedom to make your own choices), and civic responsibilities.
 
2013-11-14 02:02:13 PM

Philip J. Fry: palelizard: Can we get a definition for 'American values'?

1) Republican
2) Christian
3) White
4) Straight


Tea Party or RINO?  Which kind of Christian?
 
2013-11-14 02:03:31 PM
"The growing number of newcomers from other countries are a threat to traditional American customs and values."

Fine. We'll just fark off with our hamburgers, hot dogs, pizza, pasta, kindergarten, etc.

Have fun with your boiled meat and...you know, whatever else you had before we came.
 
2013-11-14 02:04:27 PM

knowless: Calmamity: And soon, someone will be in here saying "gosh, won't it be great when they all die off?"

They don't die off before they teach their children to take over when they're gone, people.

So where exactly should a young white male move to that would make you "non-racists" happy? I'm open to suggestions.


I guess "not teaching their children to have the same prejudices" isn't an option. . .
 
2013-11-14 02:04:36 PM

knowless: Calmamity: And soon, someone will be in here saying "gosh, won't it be great when they all die off?"

They don't die off before they teach their children to take over when they're gone, people.

So where exactly should a young white male move to that would make you "non-racists" happy? I'm open to suggestions.


If you're so terrified of people of color that you need to run away from them, I would suggest moving to the moon, or maybe six feet underground.
 
2013-11-14 02:04:43 PM
Ignoring the "american values" nonsense, whatever that means, "takin our jerbs" is a cliche but is still correct.

Fewer immigrants competing for jobs would result in higher wages, particularly in low skill areas where there is so much labor supply.
 
2013-11-14 02:05:49 PM

Facetious_Speciest: "The growing number of newcomers from other countries are a threat to traditional American customs and values."

Fine. We'll just fark off with our hamburgers, hot dogs, pizza, pasta, kindergarten, etc.

Have fun with your boiled meat and...you know, whatever else you had before we came.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-11-14 02:06:00 PM

red5ish: Pinner: In 20 years, the last of the boomers will be pretty much out of the picture.
This won't be much of a topic then.

Every generation has its share of idiots. There is no end in sight.


Well, more non-white babies are being born than caucasian.
The straight, Christian right is dwindling.

I doubt if hispanics will be waiving that "Go back to your own country" banner in 20 years.
Who is going to dare biatch about gay marriage when most states will probably have adopted equality laws?
Will any prominent white Christian media figure actually have a base to draw from?
Marijuana may be legal in most states.

I really wonder what the derp factor will be in 20-30 years, and what their issues will be?
 
2013-11-14 02:06:49 PM

rogue49: Damn Irish
Damn Italians
Damn Chinese
Damn Germans
Damn Mexicans
Damn Bothans

 
2013-11-14 02:07:20 PM
That headline doesn't match that chart real goodly
 
2013-11-14 02:08:05 PM
mostly take jobs Americans don't want

The reason why Americans don't want these jobs is because they pay very little.  And the reason they pay very little is because immigrants are willing to take them.  If we got rid of the immigrants (*), then the salaries for these jobs would increase and Americans would take them.

(*) And by "immigrants", I mean those poor immigrants from third-world countries that typically take jobs like these and are often illegal.  Sadly, this means exclusively Mexicans.
 
2013-11-14 02:08:18 PM

HighOnCraic: neversubmit: If 48 is old then I'm old, white, I might even be a people but I don't think that. I didn't get poled which is a shame because I could use a good poling.

/pole
//that is all

You know who ELSE liked Poles?

/Wait, I think I did that wrong. . .


Fisherpersons? dancers? what?
 
2013-11-14 02:09:03 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: knowless: Calmamity: And soon, someone will be in here saying "gosh, won't it be great when they all die off?"

They don't die off before they teach their children to take over when they're gone, people.

So where exactly should a young white male move to that would make you "non-racists" happy? I'm open to suggestions.

If you're so terrified of people of color that you need to run away from them, I would suggest moving to the moon, or maybe six feet underground.


Like a hobbit hole? Bunny warren? Natural depression in the landscape? I don't get it
 
2013-11-14 02:10:02 PM

odinsposse: Calmamity: And soon, someone will be in here saying "gosh, won't it be great when they all die off?"

They don't die off before they teach their children to take over when they're gone, people.

If this were true there wouldn't be a generational shift in views, which is exactly what TFA is showing.


According to that chart, 40% of the younger whites had this idiotic view, as compared with 54% of the older whites. Sounds like 74% - a serious majority - of the bigoted parents did in fact succeed in teaching these sh*tty ideas to their kids.
 
2013-11-14 02:10:38 PM

skullkrusher: That headline doesn't match that chart real goodly


Dem messicans don't match our values gooder than that chart
 
2013-11-14 02:10:42 PM
"Why does every Japanese tourist have a camera?  Because they're taking inventory!"

-Racist dad joke from 1987
 
2013-11-14 02:13:01 PM

tricycleracer: "Why does every Japanese tourist have a camera?  Because they're taking inventory!"

-Racist dad joke from 1987


"What do you get when you cross a Mexican and an octopus? I don't know but it sure can pick lettuce!"

-Racist uncle joke from last Thanksgiving
 
2013-11-14 02:13:23 PM

Wooly Bully: odinsposse: Calmamity: And soon, someone will be in here saying "gosh, won't it be great when they all die off?"

They don't die off before they teach their children to take over when they're gone, people.

If this were true there wouldn't be a generational shift in views, which is exactly what TFA is showing.

According to that chart, 40% of the younger whites had this idiotic view, as compared with 54% of the older whites. Sounds like 74% - a serious majority - of the bigoted parents did in fact succeed in teaching these sh*tty ideas to their kids.


Give the Hispanics some time to get a few generations under their belts. They'll catch up
 
2013-11-14 02:14:29 PM

Philip J. Fry: palelizard: Can we get a definition for 'American values'?

1) Republican
2)

Loudly professing to be Christian
3)
Probably more than 80% White
4)
Passing as Straight


FTFY
 
2013-11-14 02:15:30 PM

FarkedOver: FarkedOver: Obama is president.  Surely there is no more racism.  This is post-racial America!

Sorry. Black people and immigrants stole the letters I was missing off my keyboard.


I thought they were going for "the President is , near." joke.
 
2013-11-14 02:16:08 PM

Ambivalence: I had no idea institutionalized racism was (still) an American value.


Are Americans still racist? And are they still proud?

Well, there you go.
 
2013-11-14 02:16:26 PM

skullkrusher: Wooly Bully: odinsposse: Calmamity: And soon, someone will be in here saying "gosh, won't it be great when they all die off?"

They don't die off before they teach their children to take over when they're gone, people.

If this were true there wouldn't be a generational shift in views, which is exactly what TFA is showing.

According to that chart, 40% of the younger whites had this idiotic view, as compared with 54% of the older whites. Sounds like 74% - a serious majority - of the bigoted parents did in fact succeed in teaching these sh*tty ideas to their kids.

Give the Hispanics some time to get a few generations under their belts. They'll catch up



Once we get rid of old white racists, racism will be a thing of the past. Can't wait!
 
2013-11-14 02:16:35 PM
Which American values?

I like:

Freedom.
Equality.
Democracy.
Champion of the little guy.
Helper of the oppressed.
Defender against tyranny.

I'm not so sure about:

Capitalism.
Wealth.
Entertainment.
Independence.
Family.
Strength.
Freedom of religion.

I don't care for:

Manifest destiny.
God.
Faith.
Rightness and righteousness.
 
2013-11-14 02:16:47 PM

Wooly Bully: odinsposse: Calmamity: And soon, someone will be in here saying "gosh, won't it be great when they all die off?"

They don't die off before they teach their children to take over when they're gone, people.

If this were true there wouldn't be a generational shift in views, which is exactly what TFA is showing.

According to that chart, 40% of the younger whites had this idiotic view, as compared with 54% of the older whites. Sounds like 74% - a serious majority - of the bigoted parents did in fact succeed in teaching these sh*tty ideas to their kids.


What? Why would you think that the number of white Americans 18-49 is equal to the number of Americans over 50? In addition, white people will soon be an ethnic minority in the country, and I'd imagine that'll change their perspective somewhat, along with increasing urbanization (which typically breeds more tolerance for diversity).
 
2013-11-14 02:17:04 PM
Isn't that Capitalism? If an immigrant is willing to work for less than an American that is the free market at work. Supply and demand baby!

\Ayn Rand was an extraterrestrial.
 
2013-11-14 02:18:09 PM
A Jew, a Mexican and a black guy walk into an Irish bar and the bartender says "Get the fark out!"

/the end
 
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