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(Guardian)   US tech firms aren't completely evil. So they pay someone to be completely evil for them   (theguardian.com) divider line 28
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2013-11-14 11:37:10 AM  
They aren't evil, just morally flexible.

/Building better worlds.
 
2013-11-14 11:38:13 AM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-11-14 11:40:55 AM  
Solution: Let's not give any money to any corporations or give any money to anyone who does.
 
2013-11-14 11:41:41 AM  
There's a lot of that going around in this country these days:  outsourced psychopathy.

I'm guessing it's not a new problem, but it sure seems prevalent these days.
 
2013-11-14 11:44:40 AM  
1. These companies have way too much money
2. They are supporting these causes at the expense of their customers, employees, and shareholders.

In a caring world, we'd be asking for lower prices, higher wages, and higher stock payouts.
 
2013-11-14 11:47:07 AM  
"Right wing"

Now, that's comedy gold. Next the Guardian will invoke Godwin. And if they have to they'll call Bill Gates a Baptist Preacher ..
 
2013-11-14 11:54:52 AM  
"free-market thinktanks" promoting a radical rightwing agenda in states across the nation

img.4plebs.org
 
2013-11-14 12:11:30 PM  
I can see why a rich group would give money to these places, but for the life of me I would be better off flushing money down the toilet than giving it to a politicial, PAC, right/left wing think tank.
 
2013-11-14 12:35:04 PM  
Well this is bad but I thought it was going to be about DynCorp selling children as sex slaves... again.
 
2013-11-14 12:44:17 PM  
It's easy to paint these pro-business PACs as catoon boogie men.  But boogie men are for children.  And so are these PACs.  Who else is going to fight to repeal the unfair labor laws that prevent working children from supporting their families?  Most American children can't work at all until they're 12 or 14.  And even then they're not allowed to work a 60 or 70 hour week, let alone 40.  And those are not the principles that America was founded on.
 
2013-11-14 12:47:18 PM  
The Center for Media and Democracy asserts that the State Policy Network (SPN), an umbrella group of 64 thinktanks based in each of the 50 states, is acting as a largely beneath-the-radar lobbying machine for major corporations and rightwing donors.

Ok, so what left-wing organizations are secretly funding the Center for Media and Democracy?
 
2013-11-14 12:54:20 PM  

neversubmit: Well this is bad but I thought it was going to be about DynCorp selling children as sex slaves... again.


Shhh....we don't mention wikileaks because Julian Assange is a bad person.
 
2013-11-14 01:09:38 PM  
FTFA:
"Some of America's largest technology and telecoms companies, including Facebook, Microsoft and AT&T, are backing a network of self-styled "free-market thinktanks" promoting a radical rightwing agenda in states across the nation, according to a new report by a lobbying watchdog."

When it's the same old drum beating that's been going on for thirty years and more, it is not new and out of the ordinary anymore.  Can we go back to merely calling it "reactionary"?
 
2013-11-14 01:13:12 PM  

Begoggle: Solution: Let's not give any money to any corporations or give any money to anyone who does.


haha! You have money?
 
2013-11-14 01:16:48 PM  

Land Ark: The Center for Media and Democracy asserts that the State Policy Network (SPN), an umbrella group of 64 thinktanks based in each of the 50 states, is acting as a largely beneath-the-radar lobbying machine for major corporations and rightwing donors.

Ok, so what left-wing organizations are secretly funding the Center for Media and Democracy?


Why did I read that as the Center for Mediocracy?
 
2013-11-14 01:28:33 PM  
img.fark.net
Sorry, what's the "MS" stand for again?
 
2013-11-14 01:28:52 PM  
Am I in before Office Space?
 
2013-11-14 01:44:28 PM  
Look, we've covered that. Money is now speech.
 
2013-11-14 02:14:09 PM  
It's a shiatty shake-down racket by the "think-tank" organizations.  You have to pay in to have a say in what they are putting out there, but once you pay you are officially a sponsor.  A company could well pay in just so they can put their foot down on the more ridiculous proposals coming out of the thinktank.
 
2013-11-14 02:29:26 PM  
How does one get a job with a think tank anyway? I mean that's a better gig than being a political pundit.  You don't even have to be on television or have any notable accomplishments, just be opinionated and motivated by your gut.  Sounds wonderful and apparently pretty lucrative.
 
2013-11-14 03:20:30 PM  
Oh you mean they want to appeal to people that aren't broke, quixotic, over-medicated Asperger's sufferers like most twenty-somethings? Crazy.
 
2013-11-14 03:56:06 PM  
Where,
Evil = "Somebody who has  a different opinion that me"
 
2013-11-14 03:56:56 PM  

Begoggle: Solution: Let's not give any money to any corporations or give any money to anyone who does.


Hope you know how to grow your own food, smelt your own ore, and do your own brain surgery.
 
2013-11-14 04:02:56 PM  

Evil Mackerel: They aren't evil, just morally flexible.

/Building better worlds.


Never let morals stand in the way of doing what is right.
 
2013-11-14 04:42:17 PM  

dbrunker: [img.fark.net image 268x188]
Sorry, what's the "MS" stand for again?


A company that sold it's remaining share in the network about six years ago?
 
2013-11-14 09:51:55 PM  
b.vimeocdn.com

\nice to see a list of the subsidiaries in one place
 
2013-11-15 01:59:21 AM  

Evil Mackerel: They aren't evil, just morally flexible.

/Building better worlds.


The president of the first company I worked for after university told me that he wasn't asking me to lie to clients, he just wanted me to finesse the truth. Love that line "finesse the truth". And he said it with an HR representative in the room taking notes of the meeting. I quit soon thereafter but found out about two years later he died suddenly on a golf course from a heart attack. No tears were shed that day.
 
2013-11-15 09:40:54 AM  

EngineerAU: Evil Mackerel: They aren't evil, just morally flexible.

/Building better worlds.

The president of the first company I worked for after university told me that he wasn't asking me to lie to clients, he just wanted me to finesse the truth. Love that line "finesse the truth". And he said it with an HR representative in the room taking notes of the meeting. I quit soon thereafter but found out about two years later he died suddenly on a golf course from a heart attack. No tears were shed that day.


Yeah, I remember the CEO of one of my early workplaces telling sales guys to say "It's in there" or "it's planned in the next release in 6 months" to WHATEVER software feature a potential customer asked.   "Remember, we're selling the IDEAL of the product."   When asked what to do when they bought the thing and found out the feature isn't there?  "Tell them to call help desk." is what he said.

Of course, this is the same guy that said "I will fire any sales guy that talks to an IT department.  Talk to the owners or CEOs that don't know anything about software because they will buy and then DIRECT their IT to work with the software"

And who can forget the psychotic favorite speech when "suggesting" unpaid overtime to get good evaluations:  "We're working on a great thing and it reminds me of a story...there's this beautiful breakfast plate of bacon and eggs here.  Now the chicken contributed to the breakfast, but the PIG is committed to it!  We want you to be pigs!"

He thought that would be inspiring.
 
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