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(Huffington Post)   Ted Cruz's father explains...sexual perversion due to atheism? Hey now, as a high level militant atheist, we're not perverts *at all*. Now if you excuse me, I have to go peg some Christians in the basement   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 115
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2013-11-14 08:20:21 AM  
/athiest
//very much perverted
///when he's right, he's right
 
2013-11-14 08:20:22 AM  
Didn't you hear me?  NO HOPE
 
2013-11-14 08:24:46 AM  
So?
 
2013-11-14 08:24:54 AM  
I can fap to this...
 
2013-11-14 08:25:06 AM  
I've known some devout Christian women who had among the more perverted minds I've encountered. I always kind of wondered if they had to ask forgiveness for specific acts or if they just assumed God knew what they were talking about and brushed over the details.
 
2013-11-14 08:34:14 AM  
Athiesm's what made them priests diddle them kids.
 
2013-11-14 08:36:59 AM  

Sybarite: I've known some devout Christian women who had among the more perverted minds I've encountered. I always kind of wondered if they had to ask forgiveness for specific acts or if they just assumed God knew what they were talking about and brushed over the details.


that certainly makes confession much more interesting

/former Catholic
//now Buddhist
///also Subby
 
2013-11-14 08:38:37 AM  
You would need to dig pretty deeply on 4chan to get to the level of perversion of this guy and his family:

www.mmdtkw.org
 
2013-11-14 08:40:42 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: You would need to dig pretty deeply on 4chan to get to the level of perversion of this guy and his family:

[www.mmdtkw.org image 720x576]


Hey! Don't diss Scar!

/obscure?
 
2013-11-14 08:42:53 AM  
You must teach me the ways of the secular flesh.
 
2013-11-14 08:42:56 AM  
And religion makes you help Castro overthrow a government and install communism.
 
2013-11-14 08:45:04 AM  

North_Central_Positronics: You must teach me the ways of the secular flesh.


Her?
 
2013-11-14 09:09:43 AM  
Ted Cruz's biggest problem isn't going to be Chris Christie or RAND PAUL, it's going to be his own father.
 
2013-11-14 09:10:05 AM  

Sybarite: I've known some devout Christian women who had among the more perverted minds I've encountered. I always kind of wondered if they had to ask forgiveness for specific acts or if they just assumed God knew what they were talking about and brushed over the details.


From my single days and as someone from Jesus America, I can tell you that this statement is accurate. Find a religious nurse or teacher and you just won the kinky sex lottery. And if she's a single mom.... good times, good times
 
2013-11-14 09:11:51 AM  
ORLY?
 s1.ibtimes.com
 
2013-11-14 09:13:07 AM  
How does one become a high-level atheist? I was unaware there were levels.
 
2013-11-14 09:17:28 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: Sybarite: I've known some devout Christian women who had among the more perverted minds I've encountered. I always kind of wondered if they had to ask forgiveness for specific acts or if they just assumed God knew what they were talking about and brushed over the details.

From my single days and as someone from Jesus America, I can tell you that this statement is accurate. Find a religious nurse or teacher and you just won the kinky sex lottery. And if she's a single mom.... good times, good times


My friend is doing ChristianMingle and he says those women are freaks.  His Weeners to me about it was, "A ton of them have a thing for feet."

I didn't press for details.  I was guessing they liked to wash guys' feet with their hair, Bible style.
 
2013-11-14 09:18:34 AM  

ManateeGag: Ted Cruz's biggest problem isn't going to be Chris Christie or RAND PAUL, it's going to be his own father.


If he gets to the general election, sure.... in the primaries, the voters will love his father.
 
2013-11-14 09:20:03 AM  

ManateeGag: Ted Cruz's biggest problem isn't going to be Chris Christie or RAND PAUL, it's going to be his own father.


And now with the Mayor of Toronto, he really has to play down his Canadian ties.
 
2013-11-14 09:20:36 AM  
And that's a bad thing because...??
 
2013-11-14 09:22:14 AM  
As a kinky bisexual who grew up Catholic, im really getting a kick out of these replies. You think you know kinky, but you dont.

/Okay, you do
 
2013-11-14 09:22:39 AM  

SurfaceTension: And that's a bad thing because...??


I'm kinda serious here.

/and my regular FWB is as pervy as I am but she's a firm, if not church-going, believer.
//hence why we are just FWBs
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-11-14 09:32:06 AM  

kxs401: How does one become a high-level atheist? I was unaware there were levels.


You get experience points for each perverted sex act, then you can level up when you accumulate enough of them.
 
2013-11-14 09:38:32 AM  

vpb: kxs401: How does one become a high-level atheist? I was unaware there were levels.

You get experience points for each perverted sex act, then you can level up when you accumulate enough of them.


So I'm guessing as the age goes down the points go up?

Sweet, I'm so gonna level after I fark that 13 year old this weekend
 
2013-11-14 09:44:58 AM  
And of course, this leads us -- when there are no moral absolutes -- leads us to sexual immorality, leads us to sexual abuse, leads us to perversion. And, of course, no hope. No hope.

You mean moral absolutes like "thou shalt not kill"  And yet, I have a sneaking suspicion that Sr. Cruz is pro-death penalty.
 
2013-11-14 09:46:01 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: vpb: kxs401: How does one become a high-level atheist? I was unaware there were levels.

You get experience points for each perverted sex act, then you can level up when you accumulate enough of them.

So I'm guessing as the age goes down the points go up?

Sweet, I'm so gonna level after I fark that 13 year old this weekend


Only if she's hot.
 
2013-11-14 09:48:15 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: And of course, this leads us -- when there are no moral absolutes -- leads us to sexual immorality, leads us to sexual abuse, leads us to perversion. And, of course, no hope. No hope.

You mean moral absolutes like "thou shalt not kill"  And yet, I have a sneaking suspicion that Sr. Cruz is pro-death penalty.


FTFA:

Some of Cruz's unusual statements have made headlines in recent months, after his son's political rise turned him into a national public figure. Cruz has compared President Barack Obama to former Cuban dictator Fidel Castro, said that Obama should go "back to Kenya," and said that God supports the death penalty.
 
2013-11-14 09:50:18 AM  

vpb: kxs401: How does one become a high-level atheist? I was unaware there were levels.

You get experience points for each perverted sex act, then you can level up when you accumulate enough of them.


You also get XPs for leaving "under God" out when you recite the Pledge of Allegiance, when you scribble "In God We Trust" off bills (the greater the currency, the more points you get), when you buy and/or read a book by Dawkins, Hitchens, or Harris, or lodge a complaint against a creche on public property.

And you pretty much go up an entire level every time you dunk a crucifix in a jar of piss.
 
2013-11-14 09:51:57 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: vpb: kxs401: How does one become a high-level atheist? I was unaware there were levels.

You get experience points for each perverted sex act, then you can level up when you accumulate enough of them.

You also get XPs for leaving "under God" out when you recite the Pledge of Allegiance, when you scribble "In God We Trust" off bills (the greater the currency, the more points you get), when you buy and/or read a book by Dawkins, Hitchens, or Harris, or lodge a complaint against a creche on public property.

And you pretty much go up an entire level every time you dunk a crucifix in a jar of piss.


You forgot, moving the bible to the fiction section of the library.
 
2013-11-14 09:53:12 AM  

Diogenes: Lionel Mandrake: And of course, this leads us -- when there are no moral absolutes -- leads us to sexual immorality, leads us to sexual abuse, leads us to perversion. And, of course, no hope. No hope.

You mean moral absolutes like "thou shalt not kill"  And yet, I have a sneaking suspicion that Sr. Cruz is pro-death penalty.

FTFA:

Some of Cruz's unusual statements have made headlines in recent months, after his son's political rise turned him into a national public figure. Cruz has compared President Barack Obama to former Cuban dictator Fidel Castro, said that Obama should go "back to Kenya," and said that God supports the death penalty.


DAMN!  I stopped reading too soon!  I can only take so much dickish nonsense at this hour...
 
2013-11-14 09:59:34 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: Diogenes: Lionel Mandrake: And of course, this leads us -- when there are no moral absolutes -- leads us to sexual immorality, leads us to sexual abuse, leads us to perversion. And, of course, no hope. No hope.

You mean moral absolutes like "thou shalt not kill"  And yet, I have a sneaking suspicion that Sr. Cruz is pro-death penalty.

FTFA:

Some of Cruz's unusual statements have made headlines in recent months, after his son's political rise turned him into a national public figure. Cruz has compared President Barack Obama to former Cuban dictator Fidel Castro, said that Obama should go "back to Kenya," and said that God supports the death penalty.

DAMN!  I stopped reading too soon!  I can only take so much dickish nonsense at this hour...


Yet here you are in [Politics]
 
2013-11-14 10:01:15 AM  
Sure, I'll take my advice on sexual perversion from the guy that can't stop f*cking that poor chicken.
 
2013-11-14 10:01:48 AM  
This has been making the rounds on my FB feed lately... seemed fitting...

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-11-14 10:02:41 AM  

grokca: IdBeCrazyIf: vpb: kxs401: How does one become a high-level atheist? I was unaware there were levels.

You get experience points for each perverted sex act, then you can level up when you accumulate enough of them.

So I'm guessing as the age goes down the points go up?

Sweet, I'm so gonna level after I fark that 13 year old this weekend

Only if she's hot.


What if she at least has a cute face, I mean I'm not a wizard here. To correctly emotional manipulate them I need the proper poor body image and daddy issues. Those things are hard to find man.
 
2013-11-14 10:08:42 AM  
Why is it always sex with these people? If there are no moral absolutes, why not say it'll lead to wanton theft, robbery, assault, murder, hell, even human slavery? Why do they always go straight to the kinky sex stuff? In terms of biblical morality, that's way down on god's list of things to care about.
 
2013-11-14 10:14:42 AM  
christian: "missionary position" only, and ONLY for the purpose of spawning a screaming smelly sh*t-machine 9 months later. Thou must not enjoy it one bit.

Atheist: Wild kinky sexual positions, with all manners of implements and condiments.
 
2013-11-14 10:15:57 AM  
This pretty much confirms that he has at least 3 women locked up in his rape basement
 
2013-11-14 10:16:28 AM  

nmrsnr: Why is it always sex with these people? If there are no moral absolutes, why not say it'll lead to wanton theft, robbery, assault, murder, hell, even human slavery? Why do they always go straight to the kinky sex stuff? In terms of biblical morality, that's way down on god's list of things to care about.


Because that's the distinguishing characteristic between their sense of morality and a good one.  Atheists think things are immoral if they harm others.  These douchebags measure immorality by a list of proscriptions. Since sex things make that list, they just assume they're terrible and evil, and the rest of us are working to make sure we and our sex partners enjoy our sex lives.
 
2013-11-14 10:17:20 AM  

Type_Hard: This has been making the rounds on my FB feed lately... seemed fitting...


Huh. That looks just like my ex.
 
2013-11-14 10:17:52 AM  

somedude210: PC LOAD LETTER: You would need to dig pretty deeply on 4chan to get to the level of perversion of this guy and his family:

[www.mmdtkw.org image 720x576]

Hey! Don't diss Scar!

/obscure?


Obscure? On Fark?
 
2013-11-14 10:18:09 AM  
Crazy old man. Perversion starts with religion.
 
2013-11-14 10:18:18 AM  

nmrsnr: Why is it always sex with these people? If there are no moral absolutes, why not say it'll lead to wanton theft, robbery, assault, murder, hell, even human slavery? Why do they always go straight to the kinky sex stuff? In terms of biblical morality, that's way down on god's list of things to care about.


Is it really surprising? These people worship that kind of stuff. After all, God's an atheist, he shagged a married virgin, and built this religion around that single act.
 
2013-11-14 10:18:23 AM  
It's like history simply doesn't exist for these people.
 
2013-11-14 10:18:46 AM  
I dated a girl who grew up Nazarene which, from what I understand, is one of the more extremely fundamentalistic religions. She was absolutely filthy in the sack.
 
2013-11-14 10:18:54 AM  
Blargh.  Preview? On Fark?

assets.nydailynews.com
 
2013-11-14 10:18:57 AM  
While perverts and abusers can be found in any group of people, the atheist abusers don't have a powerful, international organization to help cover up the crime, hide the abuser, and move the person to another location where they can keep abusing without punishment.
 
2013-11-14 10:20:14 AM  
agnostics love not to know
 
2013-11-14 10:20:22 AM  
"secular humanism undermined morality "


What the actual hell?

Newflash:  One is not REQUIRED to believe in a god (any god) to be a good person.  We can do that ourselves, without 'someone/something' telling us to.

Shiat like this makes me weep a little inside.

Please note I have nothing against those who CHOOSE to follow a religion.  If it makes them feel better, deal with things, whatever it does for them, GREAT.  But I refuse to believe you HAVE to in order to be a good person.
 
2013-11-14 10:21:36 AM  
www.rawstory.com

Because atheists believe in doing whatever they want, and if there are no moral absolutes, then there will be nothing but moral anarchy, he said.

"Do we know any politicians that have done that?" he asked.

"Hitler!" volunteered Larry Pratt of the organization Gun Owners of America, who was in the audience.

"Oh, we don't have to go that far, Larry," said Cruz. "Just go to Washington. Just go to the White House."
 
2013-11-14 10:22:39 AM  
I don't think so Mr. Cruz.

I've nailed way more Christians than Atheists. Some of them were just huge sluts too.
 
2013-11-14 10:23:48 AM  
Nearly 17,000 people have suffered sexual abuse at the hands of the clergy since 1950, according to USA Today.

This just support Cruz's theory, if you look at it the right way, I'm sure...
 
2013-11-14 10:25:23 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: You mean moral absolutes like "thou shalt not kill" And yet, I have a sneaking suspicion that Sr. Cruz is pro-death penalty.


That just means "thou shalt not kill" is merely an approximate rule-of-thumb for the actual exact moral absolute he's referring to -- roughly: "You should do whatever God commands you to do."

Cut to Euthyphro....
 
2013-11-14 10:25:36 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: vpb: kxs401: How does one become a high-level atheist? I was unaware there were levels.

You get experience points for each perverted sex act, then you can level up when you accumulate enough of them.

So I'm guessing as the age goes down the points go up?

Sweet, I'm so gonna level after I fark that 13 year old this weekend


img.fark.net
 
2013-11-14 10:25:58 AM  

vernonFL: As a kinky bisexual who grew up Catholic, im really getting a kick out of these replies. You think you know kinky, but you dont.

/Okay, you do


Well we all have the internet, so perhaps we know kinky, but I assume that most of us here (myself included) don't haven't known kinky in the biblical sense.

On a scale of 1 (lights out, pull the wiener through the fly in your PJs) to 10 (back up the school bus full of tied up drifters and farm animals) I'm maybe a 6 or 7.
 
2013-11-14 10:26:54 AM  
God: "Still way ahead of ya."
 
2013-11-14 10:30:55 AM  
I like to feel really guilty and pretend a space alien is watching me every time I have sex.

I'm a normal moral Christian.

/paying tithes makes the guilt go away.
 
2013-11-14 10:33:39 AM  
In the Alamo?
 
2013-11-14 10:35:50 AM  
How has this thread gotten this far without anyone mentioning their high school experiences with Mormon girls?

It's amazing what they'll come up with short of actual "penetration."
 
2013-11-14 10:36:34 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: I like to feel really guilty and pretend a space alien is watching me every time I have sex.

I'm a normal moral Christian.

/paying tithes makes the guilt go away.


I wonder what percentage of Christians get off on God watching them every time they have sex.
 
2013-11-14 10:37:02 AM  

Rapmaster2000: In the Alamo?


That's what Ted Cruz calls Marcus Bachmann's butthole.
 
2013-11-14 10:38:51 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

Because atheists believe in doing whatever they want, and if there are no moral absolutes, then there will be nothing but moral anarchy, he said.

"Do we know any politicians that have done that?" he asked.

"Hitler!" volunteered Larry Pratt of the organization Gun Owners of America, who was in the audience.

"Oh, we don't have to go that far, Larry," said Cruz. "Just go to Washington. Just go to the White House."


He literally fought for Fidal Castro in the communist revolution. His Canadian-born son is Senator for Texas.  WTF.  This is crazy shiat.
 
2013-11-14 10:39:40 AM  

Headso: Rapmaster2000: In the Alamo?

That's what Ted Cruz calls Marcus Bachmann's butthole.


Corndogholing?
 
2013-11-14 10:41:34 AM  
Counterpoint: Catholic School Girls.
 
2013-11-14 10:41:37 AM  

Type_Hard: This has been making the rounds on my FB feed lately... seemed fitting...

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 281x320]

Well put.  Also, if you do moral things to avoid internal hell-fire or gain favour in heavan, you are doing it out of self interest not for the sake or morality itself.

Only a person who doesn't believe in supernatural rewards/punishments is capable of true morality for the sake of morality.

 
2013-11-14 10:43:13 AM  
I thought ya'll were all Pervects and Deveels
 
2013-11-14 10:44:59 AM  

loonatic112358: I thought ya'll were all Pervects and Deveels


I'm a dark sided slykick.
 
2013-11-14 10:45:15 AM  

milkyshirt: Headso: Rapmaster2000: In the Alamo?

That's what Ted Cruz calls Marcus Bachmann's butthole.

Corndogholing?


double ended corndog!
 
2013-11-14 10:45:38 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: And of course, this leads us -- when there are no moral absolutes -- leads us to sexual immorality, leads us to sexual abuse, leads us to perversion. And, of course, no hope. No hope.

You mean moral absolutes like "thou shalt not kill"  And yet, I have a sneaking suspicion that Sr. Cruz is pro-death penalty.


Mr. Cruz,

We atheists get our morals from observation of the world around us and compassion for our fellow man.

You get your morals from a book.

Who has the moral high ground, again?

/Yes, I did say this to Sarah Palin.  And I will say it to any Christian who claims that atheists have no morals.
 
2013-11-14 10:49:52 AM  

Troy McClure: While perverts and abusers can be found in any group of people, the atheist abusers don't have a powerful, international organization to help cover up the crime, hide the abuser, and move the person to another location where they can keep abusing without punishment.


At least, not anywhere but Soviet Russia.

/Just playing devil's advocate.
//Whose advocate?
///AAAARGH!
 
2013-11-14 10:51:23 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: You would need to dig pretty deeply on 4chan to get to the level of perversion of this guy and his family:

[www.mmdtkw.org image 720x576]


Meh.  Most of the crap about the Borgias isn't true.  It was slanderous bad press started by his successor, Julius II, who hated his guts.  Alexander VI was a cultured man, who brought the Renaissance from Florence to Rome.

Go back into the Middle Ages, and you find Popes who were much more perverse than than him.
 
2013-11-14 10:52:14 AM  

IlGreven: Lionel Mandrake: And of course, this leads us -- when there are no moral absolutes -- leads us to sexual immorality, leads us to sexual abuse, leads us to perversion. And, of course, no hope. No hope.

You mean moral absolutes like "thou shalt not kill"  And yet, I have a sneaking suspicion that Sr. Cruz is pro-death penalty.

Mr. Cruz,

We atheists get our morals from observation of the world around us and compassion for our fellow man.

You get your morals from a book.

Who has the moral high ground, again?


Do you really think they'd say "you" to that argument?  Really?

Also: atheism is not an ethical philosophy, it's a response to the assumed default of religious belief.  You approximately described secular humanism, but some atheists are absurdists, some are existentialists, some are secular Buddhists, and some are even secular Christians(i.e. believing Jesus gave a good description of what it means to be a good person without being divine).

Humanism strikes me as the most pragmatic approach, but it's not the only one.
 
2013-11-14 10:54:28 AM  
I missed the part where I'm supposed to indulge in sexual perversion.  I'm pretty sure I've been a lot more strict about that sort of thing than most Christians, even.

Keep in mind, though, that "sexual perversion" is often Christer code-speak for homosexuality.

/atheist
//was a virgin until marriage
 
2013-11-14 10:56:56 AM  

nmrsnr: Why is it always sex with these people? If there are no moral absolutes, why not say it'll lead to wanton theft, robbery, assault, murder, hell, even human slavery? Why do they always go straight to the kinky sex stuff? In terms of biblical morality, that's way down on god's list of things to care about.

ikanreed: Because that's the distinguishing characteristic between their sense of morality and a good one. Atheists think things are immoral if they harm others. These douchebags measure immorality by a list of proscriptions.


More exactly, the research of Haidt and others suggest that such conservatives put somewhat less emphasis than liberals on caring (avoidance of harm) and fairness (equitability/reciprocity), due to conservatives also weighing In-group loyalty, submission to authority, and purity (including sexual).

Thus, the difference in sexual prescriptive norms from those divinely commanded by God is one of the most dramatic and obvious ones for highlighting.

Satan's Bunny Slippers: What the actual hell?


Secular humanism de-emphasizes in-group loyalty, authoritarian submission, and most purity stuff (aside from epidemiological control); it therefore undermines the "true" moral absolute rooted in "You should do whatever God commands you to do" -- with authority acting as the root for in-group and purity, as well as for equitability/reciprocity and care.
 
2013-11-14 10:59:35 AM  

ikanreed: Also: atheism is not an ethical philosophy, it's a response to the assumed default of religious belief.


Or, alternately, a class of philosophies which (either as primary premise or as inference) reject that default.
 
2013-11-14 11:01:46 AM  

abb3w: More exactly, the research of Haidt and others suggest that such conservatives put somewhat less emphasis than liberals on caring (avoidance of harm) and fairness (equitability/reciprocity), due to conservatives also weighing In-group loyalty, submission to authority, and purity (including sexual).

Thus, the difference in sexual prescriptive norms from those divinely commanded by God is one of the most dramatic and obvious ones for highlighting.


Well, we all have a little right wing authoritarian in us. An utter absence would be a sign that you're rebelling against your own nature.  It is only in comparing oneself to others that it appears minimized.
 
2013-11-14 11:02:49 AM  

abb3w: ikanreed: Also: atheism is not an ethical philosophy, it's a response to the assumed default of religious belief.

Or, alternately, a class of philosophies which (either as primary premise or as inference) reject that default.


Well, that's a shades of gray argument of infinite recursive depth.  Let's say I agree with that but prefer my wording.
 
2013-11-14 11:03:01 AM  

kxs401: How does one become a high-level atheist? I was unaware there were levels.


You start out as an A-1, in which you only get this t-shirt:

i1.cpcache.com


Once you can quote Dawkins from memory you get this snazzy belt buckle:

rlv.zcache.co.uk


This goes on until you reach the top of the Atheist hierarchy, at which time you'll be issued this license plate:

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-11-14 11:05:00 AM  

sammyk: /athiest
//very much perverted
///when he's right, he's right


Being an atheist has no bearing on being a kinky SOB, though at least we're generally a lot more comfy with it.

Part of me feels like I should have taken advantage of some Catholic school girls' silly guilt complexes back when I was a proper age to do so :(
 
2013-11-14 11:06:58 AM  
Only if she's hot.

What if she at least has a cute face, I mean I'm not a wizard here. To correctly emotional manipulate them I need the proper poor body image and daddy issues. Those things are hard to find man.


You gotta come hang out with me some time. Among the people I regularly hang with, finding a woman WITHOUT body image and daddy issues is virtually impossible. Maybe the fact that all my friends are totally damaged should tell me something about myself now that I think about it.
 
2013-11-14 11:08:01 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: vpb: kxs401: How does one become a high-level atheist? I was unaware there were levels.

You get experience points for each perverted sex act, then you can level up when you accumulate enough of them.

You also get XPs for leaving "under God" out when you recite the Pledge of Allegiance, when you scribble "In God We Trust" off bills (the greater the currency, the more points you get), when you buy and/or read a book by Dawkins, Hitchens, or Harris, or lodge a complaint against a creche on public property.

And you pretty much go up an entire level every time you dunk a crucifix in a jar of piss.


Well, then, consider me a Demi-G....what's the equivalent of a DemiGod in Athiesm?  Demi-Hitchens?  Demi-BigBang?
 
2013-11-14 11:09:25 AM  

ManateeGag: Ted Cruz's biggest problem isn't going to be Chris Christie or RAND PAUL, it's going to be his own fathersupporters.


Now made slightly more historically accurate
 
2013-11-14 11:11:09 AM  

ikanreed: IlGreven: Lionel Mandrake: And of course, this leads us -- when there are no moral absolutes -- leads us to sexual immorality, leads us to sexual abuse, leads us to perversion. And, of course, no hope. No hope.

You mean moral absolutes like "thou shalt not kill"  And yet, I have a sneaking suspicion that Sr. Cruz is pro-death penalty.

Mr. Cruz,

We atheists get our morals from observation of the world around us and compassion for our fellow man.

You get your morals from a book.

Who has the moral high ground, again?

Do you really think they'd say "you" to that argument?  Really?


Well, if they say they are after that, they're too far gone.

Also: atheism is not an ethical philosophy, it's a response to the assumed default of religious belief.

And you're overanalyzing. It doesn't matter whether it's secular humanism, ethical culture, or what have you, these sorts of Christians lump them all under "atheism". You go to them with what they understand, and you beat them with it. That's how you get your point across.  Bog the argument down with "secular humanism" this or "existentialist" that and your argument gets lost.  Make the point first, then sort out the minutiae.
 
2013-11-14 11:11:39 AM  

Girl Sailor: Only if she's hot.

What if she at least has a cute face, I mean I'm not a wizard here. To correctly emotional manipulate them I need the proper poor body image and daddy issues. Those things are hard to find man.

You gotta come hang out with me some time. Among the people I regularly hang with, finding a woman WITHOUT body image and daddy issues is virtually impossible. Maybe the fact that all my friends are totally damaged should tell me something about myself now that I think about it.


*elects not to ask how she doing out of respect
 
2013-11-14 11:20:34 AM  
www.freethoughtpedia.com
 
2013-11-14 11:20:44 AM  

Sybarite: I've known some devout Christian women who had among the more perverted minds I've encountered. I always kind of wondered if they had to ask forgiveness for specific acts or if they just assumed God knew what they were talking about and brushed over the details.


There is a LOT of sadomasochism in the Bible.
 
2013-11-14 11:23:06 AM  
If that thing I do with rubber bands and maple syrup is perverse, I don't want to be moral.
 
2013-11-14 11:24:07 AM  

JusticeandIndependence: [www.freethoughtpedia.com image 400x400]


Damn
 
2013-11-14 11:25:11 AM  

kxs401: How does one become a high-level atheist? I was unaware there were levels.


You start out by wishing people "Happy Holidays".
 
2013-11-14 11:26:57 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "Hitler!" volunteered Larry Pratt of the organization Gun Owners of America, who was in the audience.


Um....... I don't think Hitler was atheist.
 
2013-11-14 11:30:49 AM  
Ted Cruz's dad knows what he's talking bout when it comes to perversion. While he didn't invent the Dirty Sanchez, he did perfect it and made it the most artistocratic of all.

When his son dethrones Jesus Christ, I'm sure there'll be a book detailing it all.
 
2013-11-14 11:37:36 AM  
abb3w:

Secular humanism de-emphasizes in-group loyalty, authoritarian submission, and most purity stuff (aside from epidemiological control); it therefore undermines the "true" moral absolute rooted in "You should do whatever God commands you to do" -- with authority acting as the root for in-group and purity, as well as for equitability/reciprocity and care.

Oh I know.....I just cannot fathom that there are those who are so ingrained in whatever religion to have a problem with this.

But then again, yes, yes I can.....
 
2013-11-14 11:39:09 AM  

QueenMamaBee: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "Hitler!" volunteered Larry Pratt of the organization Gun Owners of America, who was in the audience.

Um....... I don't think Hitler was atheist.


That's because you're not a republican.  A good challenge for republicans is to tell them to identify a public statement by Hitler they disagree with(once you substitute America for Germany).
 
2013-11-14 11:46:47 AM  
Empathy.

If you have it, the gravest sins are just impossible to commit. It has nothing to do with religion.
 
2013-11-14 11:48:19 AM  
Sexual Perversion Results From Atheism?

That's a funny way to spell "Catholicism".
 
2013-11-14 11:53:34 AM  

QueenMamaBee: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "Hitler!" volunteered Larry Pratt of the organization Gun Owners of America, who was in the audience.

Um....... I don't think Hitler was atheist.


Forget it, he's rolling.
 
2013-11-14 12:05:25 PM  

kxs401: How does one become a high-level atheist? I was unaware there were levels.


Of course there are levels! There are levels for everything:
i560.photobucket.com

/even if I have to dig out ye auld rule booke to get them looking sorta right
 
2013-11-14 12:56:40 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: sammyk: /athiest
//very much perverted
///when he's right, he's right

Being an atheist has no bearing on being a kinky SOB, though at least we're generally a lot more comfy with it.

Part of me feels like I should have taken advantage of some Catholic school girls' silly guilt complexes back when I was a proper age to do so :(


Duh! of course you should have.
 
2013-11-14 01:06:09 PM  

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Oh I know.....I just cannot fathom that there are those who are so ingrained in whatever religion to have a problem with this.


There's some data to suggest that although environment mediates expression, the attitude tendency toward authority precedes any particular religious upbringing.
 
2013-11-14 01:06:33 PM  
images2.wikia.nocookie.net
I'm changing my diagnosis to "Remarkably well-adjusted"
 
2013-11-14 01:12:30 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Counterpoint: Catholic School Girls.


I'd say the Mormons give them a run for the money. Something about oppressive religions making them freaks in bed. They just feel guilty afterwards.
 
2013-11-14 01:37:08 PM  
 It's basic riling up you base 101.

Speaker: Say anything bad about atheist, homosexuals, or minorities (dog whistle optional) regardless of how honest it is (intellectually or otherwise).

Crowd: React like a pack of rabid howler monkeys.

Pretty standard stuff, and it never seems to get old
 
2013-11-14 01:49:49 PM  

IlGreven: Lionel Mandrake: And of course, this leads us -- when there are no moral absolutes -- leads us to sexual immorality, leads us to sexual abuse, leads us to perversion. And, of course, no hope. No hope.

You mean moral absolutes like "thou shalt not kill"  And yet, I have a sneaking suspicion that Sr. Cruz is pro-death penalty.

Mr. Cruz,

We atheists get our morals from observation of the world around us and compassion for our fellow man.

You get your morals from a book.

Who has the moral high ground, again?

/Yes, I did say this to Sarah Palin.  And I will say it to any Christian who claims that atheists have no morals.


You don't need to be Christian to be moral

and wouldn't it be immoral to say you follow a particular creed but exhibit behavior that goes against said creed?
 
2013-11-14 02:00:01 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: And of course, this leads us -- when there are no moral absolutes -- leads us to sexual immorality, leads us to sexual abuse, leads us to perversion. And, of course, no hope. No hope.

You mean moral absolutes like "thou shalt not kill"  And yet, I have a sneaking suspicion that Sr. Cruz is pro-death penalty.


And here you have it.
I find liberals horrifying for having no moral standards, and conservatives appalling for claiming to have them and then betraying them.

We used to have this thing called civic virtue that transcended politics. Now it's the party of depravity versus the party of bullshait.

Lionel Mandrake is making perfect sense. I need to start drinking earlier...

(And yes, the death penalty is just wrong. Get with the thou shall not kill program, GOP)
 
2013-11-14 02:03:45 PM  

part of the problem: Lionel Mandrake: And of course, this leads us -- when there are no moral absolutes -- leads us to sexual immorality, leads us to sexual abuse, leads us to perversion. And, of course, no hope. No hope.

You mean moral absolutes like "thou shalt not kill"  And yet, I have a sneaking suspicion that Sr. Cruz is pro-death penalty.

And here you have it.
I find liberals horrifying for having no moral standards, and conservatives appalling for claiming to have them and then betraying them.

We used to have this thing called civic virtue that transcended politics. Now it's the party of depravity versus the party of bullshait.

Lionel Mandrake is making perfect sense. I need to start drinking earlier...

(And yes, the death penalty is just wrong. Get with the thou shall not kill program, GOP)


Your username is more apt than you know...
 
2013-11-14 02:10:30 PM  
I almost feel sorry for poor Ted right now. Asshole or not, this is a hell of a dad to have.
 
2013-11-14 02:24:47 PM  
Ctrl-F Mormons

Ah, good, see that's been covered.

/dropped my jaw when I heard this a few years back
//so true...so true (hangs head, walks away)
 
2013-11-14 02:24:49 PM  

part of the problem: I find liberals horrifying for having no moral standards,


What's a "moral standard?"
 
2013-11-14 02:53:09 PM  

PsiChick: I almost feel sorry for poor Ted right now. Asshole or not, this is a hell of a dad to have.


I don't. Dude's an asshole and so is his father.
 
Ant
2013-11-14 04:00:58 PM  
Why does it always seem to be youth pastors and priests who are molesting kids then?
 
Ant
2013-11-14 04:05:27 PM  
And of course, this leads us -- when there are no moral absolutes -- leads us to sexual immorality, leads us to sexual abuse, leads us to perversion. And, of course, no hope. No hope.

Let's think this all the way through.

Is there anything your god could command of you that you would refuse to do because it was cruel or evil?

1) If you answered no, then this is not morality, this is merely might makes right. Also, stay the fark away from me, psycho!
2) If you answered yes, then you have some other, non-god, standard of what is right and wrong
3) If you answered "my God would never ask me to do something so horrible, see #2
 
2013-11-14 04:10:32 PM  

Ant: Why does it always seem to be youth pastors and priests who are molesting kids then?


Where else would you get a free, rotating supply? You already have the unquestioning respect of authority. . .

/when your beliefs are based on fear, it's not hard to exploit further
 
2013-11-14 04:17:06 PM  

Ant: Why does it always seem to be youth pastors and priests who are molesting kids then?


I have a conjecture I haven't seen duplicated before:  the guilt they feel with respect to sex is universal, so they don't(or can't for priests) target healthy outlets for sexual urges.  This manifests in illegal, harmful sexual acts seeming equal to any sex, and they, being human, express those urges anyways.
 
2013-11-15 12:32:54 AM  
more proof that religion makes people stupid.
 
2013-11-15 10:47:41 AM  

Ant: Why does it always seem to be youth pastors and priests who are molesting kids then?


The full answer could fill several books, but the short version is they don't just "love" kids, they love kids.  They love teaching, care-giving, supporting, and eventually inappropriately touching.

Yeah it's farked up, that's the whole deal, they're farked up.
 
2013-11-15 12:21:34 PM  

vernonFL: As a kinky bisexual who grew up Catholic, im really getting a kick out of these replies. You think you know kinky, but you dont.

/Okay, you do


Recovering Catholic. Atheist. Bi. Kinky BD. I think may be due to being forced during my teenage years to tell/confess to older men I jacked off to my dad's Playboys.

So...net win?
 
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