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2013-11-14 07:48:16 AM
Not spoilers. Prequel.

And, no, it wasn't the Doctor I'd expected... Wow. I can't wait 'til the 23rd.
 
2013-11-14 08:18:09 AM
well this will keep a lot of geeks from working today.
 
2013-11-14 08:23:47 AM
Drew dumped this off in the video tab. He vastly underestimates how Whovians will react to seeing Paul McGann again.

/not subby
 
2013-11-14 08:33:25 AM
Well, that explains a few things.
 
2013-11-14 09:03:52 AM
As I've said already... Goddamn.
 
2013-11-14 09:06:53 AM
Nice. Paul McGann gets the regeneration he deserves.
 
2013-11-14 09:14:13 AM
Not at all a bookmark so I remember to watch it when I get home.
 
2013-11-14 09:43:13 AM
And everyone has a Whogasm.
 
2013-11-14 09:54:54 AM
That should reset the 12 regenerations rule.
 
2013-11-14 09:57:18 AM
"Man or Woman"
 
2013-11-14 09:57:38 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-11-14 09:58:40 AM

threefeetoffun: That should reset the 12 regenerations rule.


Or at the very least undermine it in this one case. Maybe.

Let's be honest though, Moffatt would undermine that rule as needed in a heartbeat.
 
2013-11-14 09:58:54 AM
What if "Day of the Doctor" is just a plot by aliens to suck all of our faces off?
 
2013-11-14 10:06:22 AM
YAY PAUL MCGANN

Now to rewatch that a half a dozen times ot so
 
2013-11-14 10:09:59 AM
Fantastic!  The trailers they've released so far have sucked, this has actually whet my appetite for the 50th.  Great jerb, Moff.
 
2013-11-14 10:10:27 AM
Damn.  Now I want to see a Doctor Who at War series starring Paul McGann.
 
2013-11-14 10:21:38 AM
A bit obvious, but exactly what I was going for.

Sometimes obvious is good.

And yay for bringing back McGann. When the camera panned on him I'm not ashamed to admit, I geeked out.
 
2013-11-14 10:25:12 AM
Got up at 7am to watch this the moment it went live.  Absolutely couldn't believe my ears when I heard McGann's voice...it was just amazing.  The whole thing was amazing, and I didn't even like the move that much.  I love it...they gave him the regeneration scene he absolutely deserved.

It's his birthday today ;)
 
2013-11-14 10:26:02 AM

threefeetoffun: That should reset the 12 regenerations rule.


Between that, River's gift, and the lack of any other Time Lords to enforce it as a law they should be able to keep The Doctor regenerating as long as they want.
 
2013-11-14 10:35:01 AM

rugman11: Damn.  Now I want to see a Doctor Who at War series starring Paul McGann.



Sounds like it would be more like Doctor Who, the Conscientious Objector starring Paul McGann, but I'd love to see a few episodes of that, too.
 
2013-11-14 10:35:37 AM
I audibly screamed when I saw it this morning. I had to double check to make sure I was on a legit bbc channel.

But oh sweet baby Rassilon was that good.

Except for the whole 'im not part of that war, honest and cross my hearts' to 'ok, let's get on with it then'.

That seemed a bit rushed. But fark it. I don't care. I'm willing to cut some slack.

And good on McGann. He deserved this.
 
2013-11-14 10:37:40 AM

timswar: threefeetoffun: That should reset the 12 regenerations rule.

Between that, River's gift, and the lack of any other Time Lords to enforce it as a law they should be able to keep The Doctor regenerating as long as they want.


It's better story wise if they stick to the 12 regeneration rule, so that way you can build some tension with Capaldi's Doctor seemingly being out of regenerations and not giving him the possibility of getting more lives until the end of his tenure. Having a more mortal Doctor could be interesting, especially if it makes him more cautious.

Sure, we all KNOW that a loophole to the regeneration limit will be found, but they can at least have some fun with that at a plot level.
 
2013-11-14 10:45:28 AM
I fully admit to nearly weeing myself when I watched that this morning.  My boyfriend wondered what else Moffat has been lying to us about, since McGann's involvement in anything to do with the 50th anniversary was kept secret until the time this went to air.  I do like that all the Big Finish audio companions were made canon, as it further solidifies that everything the Eighth Doctor has done in those productions is part of the Whoniverse at large.

The other thing I liked about this is it defined who/what John Hurt's character is.  I wonder if we'll see him regenerate into Christopher Eccleston at the end of The Day of the Doctor....it would be a nice segue into what we see at the beginning of Series 1.
 
2013-11-14 10:46:19 AM

phaseolus: rugman11: Damn.  Now I want to see a Doctor Who at War series starring Paul McGann.


Sounds like it would be more like Doctor Who, the Conscientious Objector starring Paul McGann, but I'd love to see a few episodes of that, too.


Well, yeah, but I think it would be cool to see a series where McGann runs around trying to solve the problems the war is causing.  That'd be pretty cool.
 
2013-11-14 10:46:59 AM
OK. I can almost forgive the Moff. That was awesome!
 
2013-11-14 10:47:05 AM

Mad_Radhu: timswar: threefeetoffun: That should reset the 12 regenerations rule.

Between that, River's gift, and the lack of any other Time Lords to enforce it as a law they should be able to keep The Doctor regenerating as long as they want.

It's better story wise if they stick to the 12 regeneration rule, so that way you can build some tension with Capaldi's Doctor seemingly being out of regenerations and not giving him the possibility of getting more lives until the end of his tenure. Having a more mortal Doctor could be interesting, especially if it makes him more cautious.

Sure, we all KNOW that a loophole to the regeneration limit will be found, but they can at least have some fun with that at a plot level.


Tennant's Doctor used a regeneration's worth of energy to heal himself from a Dalek blast, and then siphoned the rest of it off into his hand.  The way everything is shaping up, it seems that it will count towards a regeneration and that Smith is ACTUALLY #13.  They will reset the limit at Christmas and Capaldi will be the first of the next cycle.
 
2013-11-14 10:51:30 AM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Nice. Paul McGann gets the regeneration he deserves.


THIS!
 
2013-11-14 10:52:54 AM
Nice to see that McGann got a proper send-off.  Hopefully this thread won't produce too much fan speculation.  There's nothing worse than when fans take inconsequential things from the show and extrapolate the dumbest plots from them..
 
2013-11-14 10:53:28 AM

bborchar: Mad_Radhu: timswar: threefeetoffun: That should reset the 12 regenerations rule.

Between that, River's gift, and the lack of any other Time Lords to enforce it as a law they should be able to keep The Doctor regenerating as long as they want.

It's better story wise if they stick to the 12 regeneration rule, so that way you can build some tension with Capaldi's Doctor seemingly being out of regenerations and not giving him the possibility of getting more lives until the end of his tenure. Having a more mortal Doctor could be interesting, especially if it makes him more cautious.

Sure, we all KNOW that a loophole to the regeneration limit will be found, but they can at least have some fun with that at a plot level.

Tennant's Doctor used a regeneration's worth of energy to heal himself from a Dalek blast, and then siphoned the rest of it off into his hand.  The way everything is shaping up, it seems that it will count towards a regeneration and that Smith is ACTUALLY #13.  They will reset the limit at Christmas and Capaldi will be the first of the next cycle.


Yep, it could be as well, since we never REALLY saw 11 regenerate in The Impossible Astronaut and his regeneration was disabled for some reason in Let's Kill Hitler. Maybe it was the poison, maybe it was simply being out of regenerations.
 
2013-11-14 10:54:39 AM

Johnny_Whistle: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Nice. Paul McGann gets the regeneration he deserves.

THIS!


Kind of sad Eccleston isn't going to be a part of any of this. His loss, really.
 
2013-11-14 10:55:16 AM
Wow. Lot of info to digest there. Wow to the Big Finish shoutouts, now made canon. No others mentioned after Molly, so she was his last major companion. Young John Hurt means that a regeneration does indeed age, they're not static between deaths. Sisters of Karn messing with his regeneration means John Hurt's Doctor is literally not the man he was, explaining much of shell shock of the post Time War Doctors. Wow, they sure stuck a lot into 7 minutes.
 
2013-11-14 10:56:13 AM

bborchar: Tennant's Doctor used a regeneration's worth of energy to heal himself from a Dalek blast, and then siphoned the rest of it off into his hand.  The way everything is shaping up, it seems that it will count towards a regeneration and that Smith is ACTUALLY #13.  They will reset the limit at Christmas and Capaldi will be the first of the next cycle.


Don't know why, but I hadn't even considered that.  Makes a lot of sense.
 
2013-11-14 11:00:59 AM

farbles: Young John Hurt means that a regeneration does indeed age, they're not static between deaths.



I was just making a screencap of that moment to remark about his apparent age

img.fark.net

... because it raises an obvious timeline question: How much time elapses between The Night of The Doctor and The Day of The Doctor? I think we can expect an answer to this in 9 days, otherwise they wouldn't have brought it up.
 
2013-11-14 11:18:58 AM
Just got back from Gallifrey Base. It's a mass orgasm over there. Yes, NotD was that awesome. We see just what others think of the war, the bloody Sisterhood are back :), and Paul's Doctor becomes a warrior, getting the regeneration he deserves. Just...wowomgwow.
 
2013-11-14 11:31:22 AM
I didn't know this was being released (I'm avoiding Doctor Who news until after the 50th airs, I'm not a patient person), but the surprise of finding this right before class was well worth being later.  I love McGann, and I'm just over the moon that he got to work on this.  The 50th without him just wouldn't have seemed right.

Also, gah, now I'm counting down to the 50th again!

/need to rewatch the prequel a few more times without being rushed
 
2013-11-14 11:34:00 AM
I'm a big Moffat critic, but I'm rooting for him to do something awesome (even though he struggles).  This is a good first step.  More McGann, please.  He was so good at it.
 
2013-11-14 11:37:15 AM

kermit the forg: Kind of sad Eccleston isn't going to be a part of any of this


Rule #1: The Doctor lies.
 
2013-11-14 11:40:56 AM

phaseolus: farbles: Young John Hurt means that a regeneration does indeed age, they're not static between deaths.


I was just making a screencap of that moment to remark about his apparent age

[img.fark.net image 566x473]

... because it raises an obvious timeline question: How much time elapses between The Night of The Doctor and The Day of The Doctor? I think we can expect an answer to this in 9 days, otherwise they wouldn't have brought it up.


Considering how slowly the Doctor ages over the course of series 6 of the new series, I wonder if Moffat is planning to retcon his age in order to reconcile the new series stated age with what was said in the original series (The seventh claimed to be 953 at one point).
 
2013-11-14 11:41:57 AM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: kermit the forg: Kind of sad Eccleston isn't going to be a part of any of this

Rule #1: The Doctor lies.


I don't know.  Eccleston had legit gripes with the show itself, and he's been enjoying making bags of money.  If Moffat can get him in, and keep it a secret, it could be a huge coup.  But I just don't see Eccleston being interested.  McGann was, and has been interested in rejoining the show for years.
 
2013-11-14 11:52:39 AM

Mad_Radhu: phaseolus: farbles: Young John Hurt means that a regeneration does indeed age, they're not static between deaths.


I was just making a screencap of that moment to remark about his apparent age

[img.fark.net image 566x473]

... because it raises an obvious timeline question: How much time elapses between The Night of The Doctor and The Day of The Doctor? I think we can expect an answer to this in 9 days, otherwise they wouldn't have brought it up.

Considering how slowly the Doctor ages over the course of series 6 of the new series, I wonder if Moffat is planning to retcon his age in order to reconcile the new series stated age with what was said in the original series (The seventh claimed to be 953 at one point).


Oh, he definitely lies about his age now...I wouldn't be surprised if he's at least 2000.
 
2013-11-14 11:55:51 AM
Damn you people~!  I'm at work and am fighting the urge to watch this with every fiber in my being.
 
2013-11-14 12:07:29 PM
The voice stating "I'm looking for the Doctor" sounds very much like:

www.thedoctorwhosite.co.uk
 
2013-11-14 12:09:15 PM

USCLaw2010: The voice stating "I'm looking for the Doctor" sounds very much like:

[www.thedoctorwhosite.co.uk image 630x290]


Funny, I thought the same thing. Been trying to place that voice now for days and Jacobi is the only one I can think of.
 
2013-11-14 12:09:43 PM

moohawk: threefeetoffun: That should reset the 12 regenerations rule.

Or at the very least undermine it in this one case. Maybe.

Let's be honest though, Moffatt would undermine that rule as needed in a heartbeat.


A throwaway line from 40-odd years ago will not be allowed to destroy an extremely successful franchise.
 
2013-11-14 12:13:52 PM

Rwa2play: Damn you people~!  I'm at work and am fighting the urge to watch this with every fiber in my being.


Sucks to be you.  That rocked.
 
2013-11-14 12:15:28 PM

USCLaw2010: The voice stating "I'm looking for the Doctor" sounds very much like:

[www.thedoctorwhosite.co.uk image 630x290]


woot! An "I,Claudius" reunion now! with both of them there...
 
2013-11-14 12:19:26 PM

stellarossa: moohawk: threefeetoffun: That should reset the 12 regenerations rule.

Or at the very least undermine it in this one case. Maybe.

Let's be honest though, Moffatt would undermine that rule as needed in a heartbeat.

A throwaway line from 40-odd years ago will not be allowed to destroy an extremely successful franchise.


Far more than a throwaway line, it's been well established in many episodes over the classic series' run.  There are very easy ways to get around the 12 Regeneration limit, though.  The easiest being "The Time Lords imposed the limit.  No more Time Lords, no more limit"
 
2013-11-14 12:20:30 PM
Wow.

Just......

Wow.
 
2013-11-14 12:22:36 PM

LeoffDaGrate: stellarossa: moohawk: threefeetoffun: That should reset the 12 regenerations rule.

Or at the very least undermine it in this one case. Maybe.

Let's be honest though, Moffatt would undermine that rule as needed in a heartbeat.

A throwaway line from 40-odd years ago will not be allowed to destroy an extremely successful franchise.

Far more than a throwaway line, it's been well established in many episodes over the classic series' run.  There are very easy ways to get around the 12 Regeneration limit, though.  The easiest being "The Time Lords imposed the limit.  No more Time Lords, no more limit"


River also gave up all her regenerations to revive the Doctor, so that's another possibility.
 
2013-11-14 12:25:14 PM

47 is the new 42: LeoffDaGrate: stellarossa: moohawk: threefeetoffun: That should reset the 12 regenerations rule.

Or at the very least undermine it in this one case. Maybe.

Let's be honest though, Moffatt would undermine that rule as needed in a heartbeat.

A throwaway line from 40-odd years ago will not be allowed to destroy an extremely successful franchise.

Far more than a throwaway line, it's been well established in many episodes over the classic series' run.  There are very easy ways to get around the 12 Regeneration limit, though.  The easiest being "The Time Lords imposed the limit.  No more Time Lords, no more limit"

River also gave up all her regenerations to revive the Doctor, so that's another possibility.


Moffat has discussed the regeneration limit before. Something along the lines of 'we'll make something up'

So long as it's written well, I don't care how they extend the show.
 
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