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(Fox News)   Montana college art student flunks a math class, sues the school for negligence, her diploma, being told an art degree could get her a job in Montana   (foxnews.com) divider line 89
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2013-11-14 08:31:43 AM
Disability or not, if you can't meet the requirements to get your art degree..........YOU DON'T GET AN ART DEGREE.
 
2013-11-14 08:40:36 AM
Shut up and take your math classes, you little crybaby. They'll make you a better person.
I don't even know why kids can get high school diplomas without passing beginning algebra. You spend 12 farking years in school, you ought to be able to solve a goddamned quadratic equation.
 
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2013-11-14 08:52:11 AM
I have dysdysia, an aversion to claims that making up a name with a "dys" prefix means I need to care about the condition.
 
2013-11-14 08:53:12 AM
Valdez's disabilities include...dyscalculia, which is a mathematics learning disability,

Jesus farking christ.
 
2013-11-14 08:55:40 AM

Pocket Ninja: Valdez's disabilities include...dyscalculia, which is a mathematics learning disability,

Jesus farking christ.


This is how ridiculous this story is.  It broke Pocket Ninja.
 
2013-11-14 08:56:52 AM
We can only hope that America's pharmaceutical companies have embarked on the long, difficult journey involved in creating a pill that can cure dyscalculia, dysdysia, dyspenisia, dysinterestia, dysphobiaitis, dysfunctionablia, dysbullshshiatissostupidia, and all the other dyses that so many have had to endure with silent suffering for so many years. Perhaps they could combine it into a cure for restless leg syndrome and end two great scourges at once.
 
2013-11-14 08:58:16 AM
Hmmm...he got over it.

Snowflake should, too.
 
2013-11-14 09:00:33 AM
I'm going to guess that for the most part dyscalculia is a self-fulfilling diagnosis... but I was wrong about fibro, so I'm willing to believe I'm wrong about this.

Which begs (I know, wrong word) the question: should someone with developmental disabilities that prevent them from passing required courses still be eligible for a degree, and to what extent?

I'm going to tentatively say yes, but only to the extent that the student is able to pass those courses that are in-line with her degree... meaning that the person in this case would be correct in stating that the school should have found a way for her to pass (including very remedial math classes to count as the credit).  She might have better luck at a bigger state school, however.
 
2013-11-14 09:15:35 AM
She'll do fine. She'll whine her way into her degree, then she'll whine and brownnose her way into a job doing social work or something, and then she'll work her up the ladder, whining and taking advantage of every single thing she can exploit, and then, because of her hardships and her "handicap", she'll treat everyone in her life like crap, because she's had it so haaarrrrdddddd.

Meanwhile, the guy who just gets up and goes to work every day with no thanks and no special exemptions---he's been laid off. he has to go down and have an "interview" with the nice lady at social services about why he doesn't try harder to get a good job, so that he can get his unemployment. And you know who he has to report to? That's right.........
 
2013-11-14 09:21:23 AM

cryinoutloud: She'll do fine. She'll whine her way into her degree, then she'll whine and brownnose her way into a job doing social work or something, and then she'll work her up the ladder, whining and taking advantage of every single thing she can exploit, and then, because of her hardships and her "handicap", she'll treat everyone in her life like crap, because she's had it so haaarrrrdddddd.

Meanwhile, the guy who just gets up and goes to work every day with no thanks and no special exemptions---he's been laid off. he has to go down and have an "interview" with the nice lady at social services about why he doesn't try harder to get a good job, so that he can get his unemployment. And you know who he has to report to? That's right.........


You, sir, will get a funny vote when it is enabled.
 
2013-11-14 09:22:04 AM

cryinoutloud: She'll do fine. She'll whine her way into her degree, then she'll whine and brownnose her way into a job doing social work or something, and then she'll work her up the ladder, whining and taking advantage of every single thing she can exploit, and then, because of her hardships and her "handicap", she'll treat everyone in her life like crap, because she's had it so haaarrrrdddddd.

Meanwhile, the guy who just gets up and goes to work every day with no thanks and no special exemptions---he's been laid off. he has to go down and have an "interview" with the nice lady at social services about why he doesn't try harder to get a good job, so that he can get his unemployment. And you know who he has to report to? That's right.........


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2013-11-14 09:28:31 AM
learn 2 cheat dummie
 
2013-11-14 09:31:24 AM

Luminiferous Aether: learn 2 cheat dummie


Can't.  She's got dysneakia.
 
2013-11-14 09:33:30 AM
www.southbayriders.com

I would have like to have curly fries with my Big Montana
 
2013-11-14 09:52:30 AM
*sigh.  On one hand, I can see that stand that we should try to accommodate those with disabilities.  One the other hand, Welcome to Costco's.  I love you!

s3.amazonaws.com
 
2013-11-14 09:53:40 AM
"We're very serious that a degree from Rocky means something,".

Maybe she should transfer to Wossamotta U
 
2013-11-14 09:54:42 AM
Hey, subby, FYI there's a shiatload of art and rich-ass art-buying people in Montana.

That said...

rumpelstiltskin: Shut up and take your math classes, you little crybaby.

 
2013-11-14 09:55:15 AM
Sadly, the math requirements for an art degree do not accurately represent the importance of math to the visual arts. Perspective, anamorphic art (e.g., those cool sidewalk drawings that look 3D from the right angle), geometry in general. Escher and Dali are to of the most famous modern artists whose work was deeply mathematical. Hannah "Montana" Valdez can go suck eggs.
 
2013-11-14 09:55:45 AM
If dyscalculia is going to be a thing. Then I want a new word for alcoholism.
 
2013-11-14 09:55:46 AM
Rocky Mountain admitted her even though college officials knew her SAT score for math placed her in the bottom 5 percent of all students, the lawsuit said.

There's the problem right there.
 
2013-11-14 09:55:53 AM
Valdez's disabilities include Asperger's syndrome, bipolar disorder, anxiety disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and dyscalculia, which is a mathematics learning disability, her attorney, Donald Harris, said Tuesday.

Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Oh god lady you and your parents have been suckers somewhere along the way. If you really had all that wrong you would be a farking basket case no matter how much drugs they pump into you. My bet is she probably has dyslexia or dyscalculia which lead to poor performance in school which lead to all those diagnoses trying to "fix" her. This is the perfect storm of helicopter parenting and special snowflake meeting reality.
 
2013-11-14 09:55:54 AM

DarwiOdrade: Sadly, the math requirements for an art degree do not accurately represent the importance of math to the visual arts. Perspective, anamorphic art (e.g., those cool sidewalk drawings that look 3D from the right angle), geometry in general. Escher and Dali are to of the most famous modern artists whose work was deeply mathematical. Hannah "Montana" Valdez can go suck eggs.


gah! "two" not "to"
 
2013-11-14 09:57:58 AM

themightyboof: If dyscalculia is going to be a thing. Then I want a new word for alcoholism.


Hyperethanolia
 
2013-11-14 09:58:56 AM

DarwiOdrade: DarwiOdrade: Sadly, the math requirements for an art degree do not accurately represent the importance of math to the visual arts. Perspective, anamorphic art (e.g., those cool sidewalk drawings that look 3D from the right angle), geometry in general. Escher and Dali are to of the most famous modern artists whose work was deeply mathematical. Hannah "Montana" Valdez can go suck eggs.

gah! "two" not "to"


You must have dyswordia.
 
2013-11-14 09:59:04 AM

themightyboof: If dyscalculia is going to be a thing. Then I want a new word for alcoholism.


Dysoberia?
 
2013-11-14 09:59:26 AM

themightyboof: If dyscalculia is going to be a thing. Then I want a new word for alcoholism.


Ha! I love this. I'll throw out "dyssoberia." Blegh. Sounds too much like "diarrhea." Anyone else want to try?
 
2013-11-14 09:59:52 AM

Diogenes: Pocket Ninja: Valdez's disabilities include...dyscalculia, which is a mathematics learning disability,

Jesus farking christ.

This is how ridiculous this story is.  It broke Pocket Ninja.


Seems he only hesitated, like my old car did on cold mornings.
 
2013-11-14 10:00:05 AM

I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: themightyboof: If dyscalculia is going to be a thing. Then I want a new word for alcoholism.

Dysoberia?


*shakes tiny fist of impotent rage*
 
2013-11-14 10:00:32 AM
Not like they made her take calc or intro to differential equations...

Requirement 1: Math Skills (3 semester hours) 
Fulfilled by successfully completing:
MAT 100 - College Algebra
MAT 104 - Mathematics for Elementary School Teachers II
MAT 110 - Elementary Functions
MAT 131 - Trigonometry and Applied Calculus (for aeronautical science majors and aviation management majors only)
or
a satisfactory score on a math achievement test (at least 26 on ACT-math, at least 610 on SAT-math, or at least a 41 on the trigonometry portion of the COMPASS math test (can be taken at Rocky Mountain College )).

Requirement 2: Mathematical Thought (3 semester hours) 
Fulfilled by successfully completing one of the following courses:
MAT 152 - To Infinity and Beyond
MAT 175 - Calculus I
MAT 176 - Calculus II
MAT 210 - Probability and Statistics
Advanced placement credit in math may not be used to satisfy this requirement, but may be applied to overall elective credit.
 
2013-11-14 10:00:43 AM
Dyscalculia.  That's my problem! I'm not bad at math, I have a disorder!

Seriously.... why is there a name for that??? Why is EVERYTHING a farking "disorder"? Can we just admit that some people just aren't good at certain things? I'm not a very good painter, can I have my own special label please?
 
2013-11-14 10:00:46 AM

Fuggin Bizzy: themightyboof: If dyscalculia is going to be a thing. Then I want a new word for alcoholism.

Ha! I love this. I'll throw out "dyssoberia." Blegh. Sounds too much like "diarrhea." Anyone else want to try?


Diarrhea is now dyspoopia
 
2013-11-14 10:01:11 AM

Pocket Ninja: We can only hope that America's pharmaceutical companies have embarked on the long, difficult journey involved in creating a pill that can cure dyscalculia, dysdysia, dyspenisia, dysinterestia, dysphobiaitis, dysfunctionablia, dysbullshshiatissostupidia, and all the other dyses that so many have had to endure with silent suffering for so many years. Perhaps they could combine it into a cure for restless leg syndrome and end two great scourges at once.


Stop dissing her dys

/or dat
 
2013-11-14 10:03:01 AM
Why did I have to take geology, music appreciation, and a host of other crap to get a computer science degree.
 
2013-11-14 10:03:13 AM
I knew an engineering student that struggled mightily with his math classes. Who knows, maybe he also suffered from "dyscalculia." Anyway, long story short, after years (and years) of struggling, he finally passed the classes he needed.

Today, he's a professional engineer.

And he didn't sue anybody.

/Art students. Pfft.
 
2013-11-14 10:03:19 AM
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2013-11-14 10:03:58 AM

Fuggin Bizzy: Hey, subby, FYI there's a shiatload of art and rich-ass art-buying people in Montana.

That said...

rumpelstiltskin: Shut up and take your math classes, you little crybaby.


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2013-11-14 10:04:14 AM

Gentoolive: Why did I have to take geology, music appreciation, and a host of other crap to get a computer science degree.


So that you'll have something to talk about while waiting on for a WoW raid to start.
 
2013-11-14 10:04:39 AM

Slaves2Darkness: Valdez's disabilities include Asperger's syndrome, bipolar disorder, anxiety disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and dyscalculia, which is a mathematics learning disability, her attorney, Donald Harris, said Tuesday.

Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Oh god lady you and your parents have been suckers somewhere along the way. If you really had all that wrong you would be a farking basket case no matter how much drugs they pump into you. My bet is she probably has dyslexia or dyscalculia which lead to poor performance in school which lead to all those diagnoses trying to "fix" her. This is the perfect storm of helicopter parenting and special snowflake meeting reality.


She's probably so f*cked up from years of bullsh*t diagnosis, meds and helicoptering that she is incapable of anything but whiney victimization.
 
2013-11-14 10:04:42 AM
"Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best, he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear his shoes, bathe, and not make messes in the house." - "Uncle Bob" Heinlein


/ except for the missus, who doesn't quite have the "not make messes in the house" part down right.
 
2013-11-14 10:04:59 AM

DrewCurtisJr: Rocky Mountain admitted her even though college officials knew her SAT score for math placed her in the bottom 5 percent of all students, the lawsuit said.

There's the problem right there.


Sort of.  I take it back a level further and say she shouldn't be applying to schools that have gen. ed. or departmental minimum requirements.

Don't want to do math?  Don't pay to go to a place that requires it.
 
2013-11-14 10:06:07 AM

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I'm sure some of them buy ass-art too. LOL.

/I get mine for free, because I have the Internet. I appreciate it deeply for 3-5 minutes, and then I'm off to the next thing.
 
2013-11-14 10:08:05 AM
I haven't seen so many lame dysses since Nas had that beef with Jay-Z.
 
2013-11-14 10:08:50 AM
And if she weren't admitted to the college, she would have sued under the ADA.
 
2013-11-14 10:09:47 AM
OKay,  You're retarded.

Well I don't give a fark and the whole public bullshiat game of "oh we should be sensitive to the handicapped" can go to hell.  Oh, you want to be a fireman?  You're in a wheelchair!  What?  Discriminatory?  Equal opportunity?  Dude fark off, we need someone who can drag people out of buildings.  You can do that?  Well do you know who can do it better?  Someone with legs!

If you can't meet the requirements for a degree, you can't have a degree.  I don't care if you have some sort of mental disorder; you don't have the abilities that a degree says you have (even if the impression they give is usually wrong anyway), and the only thing giving retarded people degrees would do is teach us to not hire anyone with a mental disorder because their credentials are probably effectively falsified.
 
2013-11-14 10:10:01 AM
From TFA:  "Valdez's disabilities include Asperger's syndrome, bipolar disorder, anxiety disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and dyscalculia, which is a mathematics learning disability, "

You know what we used to call people like that when I was in school?  Stupid.
 
2013-11-14 10:10:03 AM

maxx2112: "Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best, he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear his shoes, bathe, and not make messes in the house." - "Uncle Bob" Heinlein


/ except for the missus, who doesn't quite have the "not make messes in the house" part down right.


I like "Uncle Bob" and some of his books, but seriously, that's a load of shiat. Some people just suck at math, just like some folks suck at art, or writing, or whatever. But this girl? Man, she's just a whiny brat. Just shut up, buckle down, and do the damn work.

/for the record, I'm OK at math.
 
2013-11-14 10:11:31 AM

labman: From TFA:  "Valdez's disabilities include Asperger's syndrome, bipolar disorder, anxiety disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and dyscalculia, which is a mathematics learning disability, "

You know what we used to call people like that when I was in school?  Stupid.


That's not fair!

She could just be lazy, spoiled and entitled.
 
2013-11-14 10:12:15 AM
I can't type very fast, is there a disorder I can blame for it?
 
2013-11-14 10:12:57 AM

DarwiOdrade: Fuggin Bizzy: themightyboof: If dyscalculia is going to be a thing. Then I want a new word for alcoholism.

Ha! I love this. I'll throw out "dyssoberia." Blegh. Sounds too much like "diarrhea." Anyone else want to try?

Diarrhea is now dyspoopia


Wouldn't that be hyperpoopia? Or dyssolidifia?
 
2013-11-14 10:13:33 AM
Degree or not, the Internet is forever, and I sure she'll have no problem getting a job when her future employer GISs her and sees she's a sue happy malcontent with:

"...Asperger's syndrome, bipolar disorder, anxiety disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and dyscalculia, which is a mathematics learning disability...
 
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