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(Fox News)   Newly declassified ▓▓▓▓▓▓ reveal ▓▓▓▓▓▓ about past ▓▓▓ of the mysterious ▓▓▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ as Area 51   (foxnews.com) divider line 74
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2013-11-13 04:19:51 PM
In other words the same stuff that's been known for decades.
 
2013-11-13 04:30:19 PM
I'm not saying it's aliens....
 
2013-11-13 04:34:06 PM
I wonder if I can finally get my stuff back when they close that place.

/perhaps i've said too much
 
2013-11-13 05:26:52 PM
It sure would be interesting to actually know what they've been up to over the past 30 years.
 
2013-11-13 05:32:03 PM
Reminds me of that scene in Independence Day where all the RV's show up in the desert.

Perfect for the Fox News crowd.
 
2013-11-13 05:39:16 PM

whidbey: Reminds me of that scene in Independence Day where all the RV's show up in the desert.

Perfect for the Fox News crowd.


You know, I could so see that happening now.

Only with hoverrounds instead of RVs.

/no one's got the money for RVs these days
 
2013-11-13 05:40:03 PM

Voiceofreason01: In other words the same stuff that's been known for decades.


Essentially why they're declassifying it. It's useless/obsolete/deprecated intel. That and they want to beat Wikileaks to the punch.
 
2013-11-13 05:40:28 PM
Haven't these people ever heard of the Internet?  Or that place where books can be found, like a library or something?
This is old news.
 
2013-11-13 05:40:31 PM

DubtodaIll: It sure would be interesting to actually know what they've been up to over the past 30 years.


Building stealth bombers?
 
2013-11-13 05:43:01 PM

Gentoolive: DubtodaIll: It sure would be interesting to actually know what they've been up to over the past 30 years.

Building stealth bombers?


And stealth helicopters as well as some drones?
 
2013-11-13 05:47:52 PM

eyeq360: Haven't these people ever heard of the Internet?  Or that place where books can be found, like a library or something?
This is old news.


But they really want to drive this message home.

Those of you hoping for information about captured aliens and flying saucers will be disappointed.

So that settles that.
 
2013-11-13 05:53:03 PM
J. Frank Parnell:
Those of you hoping for information about captured aliens and flying saucers will be disappointed.

So that settles that.


UFO's are really... Yeah, you got it...
 
2013-11-13 06:02:42 PM
Must I do everything around here?
 www.oassf.com
 
2013-11-13 06:06:30 PM

DubtodaIll: It sure would be interesting to actually know what they've been up to over the past 30 years.


They tore a hole in the universe, met the Lizard People and have been giving them tribute of human souls to stave off a coming invasion. So far nobody's found out about it, which is good. We can live our lives without fear or worry for now.
 
2013-11-13 06:08:59 PM
tribalinsight.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-11-13 06:09:21 PM
The abnormally long runway is barely disguised at all on goggle maps.
 
2013-11-13 06:11:07 PM
The Groom Lake Desert Rat is an interesting read, if you're into that sort of thing...
 
2013-11-13 06:12:13 PM

Ghengis_Socrates: The abnormally long runway is barely disguised at all on goggle maps.


Fun Fact...It was one of the back-up landing sites for the Space Shuttle.
 
2013-11-13 06:14:25 PM
www.nieu.org
 
2013-11-13 06:16:28 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: ...


NOTICE: The page (http://www.ufomind.com/area51/desert_rat/ has been permenently (sic) FROZEN as of January 2000. Due to resource limitations, this section of our website is no longer maintained, so some links may not work and some information may be out of date. We have retained this page for archive reference only, and we cannot vouch for its accuracy. Broken links will not be repaired, and minor errors will not be corrected. You are responsible for independently verifying any information you may find here.
 
2013-11-13 06:20:01 PM
Ah, the old double switch end around hidden ball ploy. They wait till everyone thinks it's over, then they say it's over then they go back and do it again then the nut cases start reinvestigating then we start wondering what's going then they deny it then then thenMINDMELT!
 
2013-11-13 06:20:05 PM
pffft.... everybody knows they keep the good stuff underground....
 
2013-11-13 06:26:38 PM

DubtodaIll: It sure would be interesting to actually know what they've been up to over the past 30 years.



Are they still flying/bussing workers in daily?  There is something done there, but at this point it could all just be mostly administrative.  There is certainly drone testing... they're small enough that it would be quite difficult to observe such operations from afar.
 
2013-11-13 06:28:00 PM

bwilson27: J. Frank Parnell:
Those of you hoping for information about captured aliens and flying saucers will be disappointed.

So that settles that.

UFO's are really... Yeah, you got it...


You eat a lot of acid, mbwilson27, back in the hippie days?
 
2013-11-13 06:30:12 PM
One of those buzzfeed type sponsor lists confused Area 51 with Roswell a couple months back on Fark. That chapped my hide.
 
2013-11-13 06:30:22 PM
there's still some weirdly redacted words in the PDFs.
 
2013-11-13 06:30:57 PM

DubtodaIll: It sure would be interesting to actually know what they've been up to over the past 30 years.


It'd be depressing to see what crap they've been spending money on all these years.

the T-shirt:

Groom Lake cost billions of dollars
And all we got was Tang
 
2013-11-13 06:31:04 PM
A FOX News article about declassified documents regarding Area 51.  Can there be anything true in it, at all?
 
2013-11-13 06:32:29 PM

J. Frank Parnell: bwilson27: J. Frank Parnell:
Those of you hoping for information about captured aliens and flying saucers will be disappointed.

So that settles that.

UFO's are really... Yeah, you got it...

You eat a lot of acid, mbwilson27, back in the hippie days?


Give you an example.. Show you what I mean... Say you're thinking about a plate of shrimp....
 
2013-11-13 06:33:36 PM

Aquapope: A FOX News article about declassified documents regarding Area 51.  Can there be anything true in it, at all?


You mean someone would use a well-used fountain of disinformation like Fox to disseminate more disinformation? Say it ain't so, Joe.
 
2013-11-13 06:33:38 PM
Meh...

it's the underground base in Dulce, NM that's the alien jackpot.
 
2013-11-13 06:33:53 PM
are we suddenly playing a game of 'cards against humanity'?

how many white cards do I get to play? that seems like too many blanks.
 
2013-11-13 06:34:37 PM
It's all been moved to Dugway by now.
 
2013-11-13 06:35:50 PM

Peki: /no one's got the money for RVs these days


No shiat. When did that become an upper middle class thing?
 
2013-11-13 06:38:22 PM

edmo: Peki: /no one's got the money for RVs these days

No shiat. When did that become an upper middle class thing?


It hasn't. People just like to biatch about it, especially the gas. RVs are ridiculously popular out here, especially when you consider that the cost is still well below house prices.
 
2013-11-13 06:38:31 PM

DubtodaIll: It sure would be interesting to actually know what they've been up to over the past 30 years.


Fighting the Gua'uld, duh.
 
2013-11-13 06:39:29 PM

whidbey: Reminds me of that scene in Independence Day where all the RV's show up in the desert.

Perfect for the Fox News crowd.


I see the Fox crowd more like this:

d1w7nqlfxfj094.cloudfront.net
 
2013-11-13 06:41:34 PM

whidbey: the cost is still well below house prices.


That's kind of what I'm hoping for. I mean, a decent bass boat should be less than a house too. But aren't most RVs over $100K now?
 
2013-11-13 06:44:44 PM

J. Frank Parnell: eyeq360: Haven't these people ever heard of the Internet?  Or that place where books can be found, like a library or something?
This is old news.

But they really want to drive this message home.

Those of you hoping for information about captured aliens and flying saucers will be disappointed.

So that settles that.


Opening: UNDISCLOSED LOCATION

Dissolve to a guy walking past a Park Rapids, MN chamber of commerce sticker.

Plus overly long youtube link.

Seems legit.
 
2013-11-13 06:50:59 PM
OK, Ive been pretty lenient so far but one of those words HAS to be penis.
 
2013-11-13 06:56:13 PM

BSABSVR: J. Frank Parnell: eyeq360: Haven't these people ever heard of the Internet?  Or that place where books can be found, like a library or something?
This is old news.

But they really want to drive this message home.

Those of you hoping for information about captured aliens and flying saucers will be disappointed.

So that settles that.

Opening: UNDISCLOSED LOCATION

Dissolve to a guy walking past a Park Rapids, MN chamber of commerce sticker.

Plus overly long youtube link.

Seems legit.


Guy also says to blur his face before releasing it near the end. I think he may have died very soon after the video, which made all that redundant. If they were faking it they would have certainly blurred his face if they included that line in the hoax.

But the most striking thing about it is how genuine that guy seems. I can spot a liar across a room without even hearing what they're saying. Nothing about that guy makes me doubt him, and it's a strange and unusually well researched thing to go and do at that age for no profit whatsoever.
 
2013-11-13 06:57:01 PM
This isn't the fark I love. You guys are slipping. Fine, I'll post it:


  img256.imageshack.us
 
2013-11-13 07:00:38 PM

edmo: whidbey: the cost is still well below house prices.

That's kind of what I'm hoping for. I mean, a decent bass boat should be less than a house too. But aren't most RVs over $100K now?


Shiat. A bit of Googling says the big diesel ones are around 180K new and Class C's are around 100K, but you could find one used for about 52K. Depends on whether you're really into that kind of shiat. Me, I travel light, so no.
 
2013-11-13 07:01:22 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: Ghengis_Socrates: The abnormally long runway is barely disguised at all on goggle maps.

Fun Fact...It was one of the back-up landing sites for the Space Shuttle.


Are you guys talking about White Sands, NM? I thought that was something different.

/"Space Camp" was my childhood ad nauseum movie
 
2013-11-13 07:02:35 PM

TheDirtyNacho: DubtodaIll: It sure would be interesting to actually know what they've been up to over the past 30 years.


Are they still flying/bussing workers in daily?  There is something done there, but at this point it could all just be mostly administrative.  There is certainly drone testing... they're small enough that it would be quite difficult to observe such operations from afar.


I'm of the mind to think it's more of a "surrender your freedom and autonomy for the opportunity to work in an laboratory with unlimited resources, all known and secret knowledge, and a driven directive towards discovery without politics" type environment. As far as what's declassified is just window dressing to keep it sexy for spectators. The only things we know about were developed prior to microchips, so the possibilities are certainly titilating.
 
2013-11-13 07:08:39 PM

DubtodaIll: It sure would be interesting to actually know what they've been up to over the past 30 years.


More like 70 years, and, if they're smart, absolutely nothing truly sensitive at all.

It's quite an opportunity if you have a "secret" that everyone knows about.  You can put on a big show and draw all your friends' and enemies' eyes to it, while you're off busy with your real secrets.  And anyone who does manage to get close enough to see what's really there just ends up wondering where in the place the good stuff is hidden, because after all, there has to be some good reason for such massive security and insistence that the place doesn't exist at all despite that everyone knows about it.
 
2013-11-13 07:11:21 PM

LrdPhoenix: DubtodaIll: It sure would be interesting to actually know what they've been up to over the past 30 years.

More like 70 years, and, if they're smart, absolutely nothing truly sensitive at all.

It's quite an opportunity if you have a "secret" that everyone knows about.  You can put on a big show and draw all your friends' and enemies' eyes to it, while you're off busy with your real secrets.  And anyone who does manage to get close enough to see what's really there just ends up wondering where in the place the good stuff is hidden, because after all, there has to be some good reason for such massive security and insistence that the place doesn't exist at all despite that everyone knows about it.


I'll bet you make a mean 7 layer dip too.
 
2013-11-13 07:12:32 PM

Peki: whidbey: Reminds me of that scene in Independence Day where all the RV's show up in the desert.

Perfect for the Fox News crowd.

You know, I could so see that happening now.

Only with hoverrounds instead of RVs.

/no one's got the money for RVs these days


at least, not one with an elevator for a hoverround.
 
2013-11-13 07:22:51 PM

LrdPhoenix: It's quite an opportunity if you have a "secret" that everyone knows about. You can put on a big show and draw all your friends' and enemies' eyes to it, while you're off busy with your real secrets. And anyone who does manage to get close enough to see what's really there just ends up wondering where in the place the good stuff is hidden, because after all, there has to be some good reason for such massive security and insistence that the place doesn't exist at all despite that everyone knows about it.


Rumor has it the corporations which used Area 51 in the past for R&D now have some other place they use. The only thing special about Area 51 is the gigantic airstrip, which i'm pretty sure no technology in development needs anymore. But who knows what goes on underground.

And that's one thing many people don't realize. All the ultra secret projects are done in private corporations, without government oversight, and with no public paper trail. The US government very well could be telling the truth when they say they have no evidence of UFO or alien visitation. All that information would be locked up tight in private corporations, too.

/hi NSA
 
2013-11-13 07:24:25 PM
Always has been nothing more than military R&D but people jump at the chance to apply a conspiracy theory to anything whenever they can.

And those people are farking stupid.
 
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