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(Some Guy)   Remember when the Lousiana EBT system crashed and people went all "RAID WALMART NO EBT LIMITS? Nothing bad can come from this, right?" Well, according to the Governor, you were wrong   (freedomoutpost.com ) divider line
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2013-11-13 06:32:53 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: rosemary's baby daddy: Can't wait for the riots when these attractive people no longer get free food courtesy of tax payers


It's happened before.

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The Iranian Revolution really wasn't about the poor or lower class. It was about political and religious oppression at the hands of a brutal dictator and how America and the West directly supported it.
 
2013-11-13 06:32:54 PM  

unreasonable ass: Rawhead Rex: Here's a CRAZY idea...
These lazy, poor people should get jobs and stop milking off people like me, who already have a job and pay taxes so these deadbeats can have free stuff.
Or...Die, die, die.

Hey look, its Ebenezer Scrooge!


How about: People getting welfare should spend 10 hours a week working.
Picking up trash at the park.
Working at a VA center.
 
2013-11-13 06:34:47 PM  

LesterB: Gentoolive: walrusonion: As someone who works 40/hrs a week and pays taxes but begrudgingly still had to get EBT (a whole $86 dollars a month) I am very happy these scumbags are getting punished.

When the govt sends you that refund check every year, that is not "paying taxes"

That might just be the stupidest thing I've ever seen on Fark. And that's really saying something.

/I award you no points
//And may god have mercy on your soul


If the govt sends you back more than you paid in, that is not "paying taxes"...
 
2013-11-13 06:34:50 PM  
libranoelrose: I will never understand how people can be mad at poor people who catch a break.

The rich steal and they get the taxpayers to give them billions of dollars.

Poor people steal and the middle class morons get pissed off because the poor people are trying to steal their cookie!!!!111


I guess you have trouble understanding a lot of things, don't you.  Which shoe on which foot?  Understand that, yet?
 
2013-11-13 06:34:58 PM  

Broktun: unreasonable ass: Rawhead Rex: Here's a CRAZY idea...
These lazy, poor people should get jobs and stop milking off people like me, who already have a job and pay taxes so these deadbeats can have free stuff.
Or...Die, die, die.

Hey look, its Ebenezer Scrooge!

How about: People getting welfare should spend 10 hours a week working.
Picking up trash at the park.
Working at a VA center.


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2013-11-13 06:36:37 PM  

Southern100: unreasonable ass: It was reported that Walmart should have allowed only $50 to be purchased by any person. Walmart made the decision to not stop people from using the EBT system while it was down. The result is Walmart reportedly isn't being paid for their losses.

I have mixed feelings about this .. on one had, it isn't the kids fault that their parents are trying to loot the stores (did you see the aftermath, it was terrible), but it will be the kids who ultimately suffer.

that being said, if Walmart had told EBT customers "sorry the EBT system is down, no food for you" then we would be reading about how much Walmart hates poor people.

Walmart hates poor people though, so they should have just not let them use the EBT cards, they would be money ahead now.

I haven't seen any articles where Walmart (or other stores) are complaining to pick up the bill (for charges over $50), have you?


yes
 
2013-11-13 06:37:38 PM  

ShadowKamui: lockers: The punishment for abusing the system is to starve peoples kids. This makes people happy? Meanwhile all those companies who did not follow policy gets a pass? Man you guys are cruel and greedy.

The kids still get WIC and a new foster family while mommy & daddy go to prison for theft


I doubt "Theft" could be proven in a court of law; the stores ALLOWED them to make the charges, the stores ALLOWED them to walk out with the groceries.   I wouldn't even try to prosecute them, it would be a waste of time & effort.  I'm even on the fence with the state declaring "Fraud", as again, it goes back to the onus of proof. Sure, there were SOME, maybe even MANY who did this with the clear intent of defrauding the system -- but there could be some who honestly didn't know, and maybe only went over their "limit" by $5, $10, or some other paltry amount.. Perhaps if they only went after the obvious abusers (those who exceeded their limit by hundreds of dollars) I'd be more ok with it, but the article doesn't stipulate..
 
2013-11-13 06:40:54 PM  

Broktun: unreasonable ass: Rawhead Rex: Here's a CRAZY idea...
These lazy, poor people should get jobs and stop milking off people like me, who already have a job and pay taxes so these deadbeats can have free stuff.
Or...Die, die, die.

Hey look, its Ebenezer Scrooge!

How about: People getting welfare should spend 10 hours a week working.
Picking up trash at the park.
Working at a VA center.


10 hours a week... You sir are too kind. These lazy deadbeats would be working more than that or starve if I were in charge.

Oh but the children!! Pfft, sorry kid your parents suck. Better luck next time.
 
2013-11-13 06:41:44 PM  

Noctusxx: lockers: The punishment for abusing the system is to starve peoples kids. This makes people happy? Meanwhile all those companies who did not follow policy gets a pass? Man you guys are cruel and greedy.

If more of them starve to death, they will make fewer poor babies, and thus need less food.  See the system works!


Dickens would be so proud of us!


You've finally convinced me, we should reward them, not punish them.
 
2013-11-13 06:42:29 PM  

Southern100: ShadowKamui: lockers: The punishment for abusing the system is to starve peoples kids. This makes people happy? Meanwhile all those companies who did not follow policy gets a pass? Man you guys are cruel and greedy.

The kids still get WIC and a new foster family while mommy & daddy go to prison for theft

I doubt "Theft" could be proven in a court of law; the stores ALLOWED them to make the charges, the stores ALLOWED them to walk out with the groceries.   I wouldn't even try to prosecute them, it would be a waste of time & effort.  I'm even on the fence with the state declaring "Fraud", as again, it goes back to the onus of proof. Sure, there were SOME, maybe even MANY who did this with the clear intent of defrauding the system -- but there could be some who honestly didn't know, and maybe only went over their "limit" by $5, $10, or some other paltry amount.. Perhaps if they only went after the obvious abusers (those who exceeded their limit by hundreds of dollars) I'd be more ok with it, but the article doesn't stipulate..


If the person stacked multiple shopping carts with food that easily exceeded what they knew they received from EBT, that pretty much proves they knew they were committing fraud.  The person that went just a little over? You let that slide since that's a reasonable mistake to make.  Just subtract the overage from the next bit of money.
 
2013-11-13 06:42:43 PM  

lockers: The punishment for abusing the system is to starve peoples kids. This makes people happy? Meanwhile all those companies who did not follow policy gets a pass? Man you guys are cruel and greedy.


Wont somebody please excuse everything because of the children!

http://deescribewriting.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/5-think-of-the-c hi ldren.jpg

No...  Children are no excuse.  If they go hungry, its mamas fault...   You may notice that having children doesn't get you out of any other crimes.
 
2013-11-13 06:44:56 PM  

Maul555: lockers: The punishment for abusing the system is to starve peoples kids. This makes people happy? Meanwhile all those companies who did not follow policy gets a pass? Man you guys are cruel and greedy.

Wont somebody please excuse everything because of the children!

http://deescribewriting.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/5-think-of-the-c hi ldren.jpg

No...  Children are no excuse.  If they go hungry, its mamas fault...   You may notice that having children doesn't get you out of any other crimes.


I agree with you.  Yet the children did not commit a crime.  If you can come up with a punishment that punishes the mother but does not punish the children, I am right there with you.  By all means, cut off mama's food stamps, as long as you can do it in a way that does not cut off food stamps for the kids who did nothing wrong.
 
2013-11-13 06:46:31 PM  

DrunkWithImpotence: Actually, if I were governor, I'd be punishing both sides.  It appears that the rule states that the cards are limited to fifty dollars in the event of a system malfunction.  I can see the cashiers ringing stuff, but pretty quickly it should have been apparent to management what was going on.  They chose to let people do it though, since hey, a sale is a sale.  I don't know how much it would hurt, but how about revoking certain stores participation in the program?  Like they do when they catch bodegas trading food stamps for cigarettes.


Can you imagine the outrage if a store like Walmart were dropped from the program?  How many thousands, if not millions of people would be affected because in some cases there ARE no other stores (except gas stations) in a neighborhood that accept SNAP?

No, dropping them wouldn't be a good solution; making them liable for their own losses works for me.

Now, if they're cutting hours to cover the loses (as a few other posters have implicated), that's not right either.. but short of a class action lawsuit (and we all know how well THOSE turn out -- for the lawyers, anyway), I'm not sure what could be done about that one..
 
2013-11-13 06:47:03 PM  
fark em and their future parasite children.

Also,  http://youtu.be/PU9c0j4iOtw
 
2013-11-13 06:52:00 PM  
I'm ok with this.

Check.

Grumpy cat.

Check.

Nelson ha ha.

I am disappoint.
 
2013-11-13 06:55:38 PM  

namegoeshere: Great_Milenko: Oh, heaven forbid that people with literally nothing get slightly ahead for once.

Would you feel the same if they had skipped the register and just stolen the food outright?


Happy, so happy, because the po's are stickin' it to the man.  They really heroes.
 
2013-11-13 06:55:50 PM  
Class action lawsuit against WalMart by people cut off of EBT in 3... 2... 1...
 
2013-11-13 06:56:01 PM  
"These businesses are only reimbursed for the benefits on the card, and they are completely responsible. So if someone had $50 dollars on their card, and they spent $100, the retailer, in this case Walmart, would be on the hook for the other $50," he said.

Sounds like no one got scammed but Wal Mart. The EBT system didn't get screwed. Wal Mart got screwed. And Wal Mart did it to themselves by allowing purchases they weren't verifying. That being the case, I say that Wal Mart should be responsible for pressing charges, just as they would in any other shoplifting instance. But I really can't get too bent out of shape about bad things happening to people trying to game the system, either...
 
2013-11-13 06:58:00 PM  

Gentoolive: LesterB: Gentoolive: walrusonion: As someone who works 40/hrs a week and pays taxes but begrudgingly still had to get EBT (a whole $86 dollars a month) I am very happy these scumbags are getting punished.

When the govt sends you that refund check every year, that is not "paying taxes"

That might just be the stupidest thing I've ever seen on Fark. And that's really saying something.

/I award you no points
//And may god have mercy on your soul

If the govt sends you back more than you paid in, that is not "paying taxes"...


Correct.  It's called 'tax fraud'
 
2013-11-13 06:58:24 PM  
If only there were a way to punish the people who bought this scammed food from the scammers for pennies on the dollar.
 
2013-11-13 07:01:22 PM  

manimal2878: keiverarrow: Honestly, that whole situation seemed to me like a staged incident.  when the EBT system went down, whose call was it to let everyone just have whatever they wanted?  The cashiers should have said no.  Someone approved that mess higher up the chain, and I believe that was done to create an anti-poor political climate

success

According to the article, if the card system goes down reatailers are suppossed to limit the purchase to $50.  For some reason they chose not to.  Anything over $50 in my mind is really on them.


Think about it like this. You go to the ATM and withdraw 200 dollars. Guy walks up jacks the 200. U need the money so u get 200 more out. Same thing happens. Is it the banks fault this money was stolen?

This is grown ups they are responsible for their actions. You don't blame the store if somebody shop lifts

/store should have to reimburse over fifty
// that shouldn't get the thieves off the hook
 
2013-11-13 07:02:32 PM  

lockers: JuicePats: lockers: The punishment for abusing the system is to starve peoples kids. This makes people happy? Meanwhile all those companies who did not follow policy gets a pass? Man you guys are cruel and greedy.

Wal-Mart lost a shiatton of money on the deal.

okay, so yeah, I guess they will finally train their staff better.


Hey, look, someone has finally got the message, and only after it had been repeated how many times.  Must be a critical thinker.
 
2013-11-13 07:08:27 PM  

lennavan: Maul555: lockers: The punishment for abusing the system is to starve peoples kids. This makes people happy? Meanwhile all those companies who did not follow policy gets a pass? Man you guys are cruel and greedy.

Wont somebody please excuse everything because of the children!

http://deescribewriting.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/5-think-of-the-c hi ldren.jpg

No...  Children are no excuse.  If they go hungry, its mamas fault...   You may notice that having children doesn't get you out of any other crimes.

I agree with you.  Yet the children did not commit a crime.  If you can come up with a punishment that punishes the mother but does not punish the children, I am right there with you.  By all means, cut off mama's food stamps, as long as you can do it in a way that does not cut off food stamps for the kids who did nothing wrong.


My internal world is a mostly mad max like, so take my idea with a grain of salt, and understanding that I do know it will never happen in our namby pamby world.

What they should do is chain the offending parent to a chair and have them sit a fully stocked (healthy even) dinner table, with all of the children.  The children are allowed to eat as much as they want for every meal for the whole month.  (within reason, I don't want no fatties resulting from this)  But the parent gets to eat nothing until they are either passed out from hunger, or are so raving mad from hunger they are willing to fight one of their children for food.  The whole time, and ear phone in the parent's ear repeats "Look what you made us do".  When we need to revive the parent it is with nutraloaf and an IV drip, they don't get any joy from eating for a whole month.  At the end of the month, present the parent with a new EBT card, a rent voucher, and a warning that next time this happens, it might be two months.

This solution, solves many problems.  Solves my problem of not enough pain and suffering for punishment.  Solves the problem of not punishing children (in fact they might even eat better),  Also teaches the children that stealing (or fraud, or whatever) not only doesn't pay, but you might be driven to animalistic madness, where mommy and daddy were willing to fight you for food.
 
2013-11-13 07:11:08 PM  

James10952001: Good.

It's the people abusing the system that jeopardize it for those who really need the assistance.


This. 1000 x this. Takers just take more.
 
2013-11-13 07:11:30 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: My internal world


...is a horrible place filled with awful people.
 
2013-11-13 07:15:25 PM  

sabreWulf07: Great_Milenko: It's a good thing they have such a good xian governor down there to put them back in their places.

What?  He's a dirty papist what takes his orders from a king in a pointy hat.  America will never elect a Catholic president, his loyalties would always be in question.

Also, do NOT read the comments on that article.


Kennedy was Catholic.
 
2013-11-13 07:16:19 PM  

unreasonable ass: cc_rider: Misch: Deedeemarz: Those desperate starving people won't actually starve. Their kids will eat at school and the after school program or church or whatever, and they will continue to make it like they always have. Because I can guarantee you that the criminals who committed this crime have been fleecing the system a long time. This wasn't their only revenue stream. It is a sad situation for the honest people who get a bad rap due to assholes like this though. At least since the idiots who committed the crimes are easily ID'd, the honest folks shouldn't be impacted. These people need to take responsibility for their actions. What they did was wrong. It really is that simple. And if they commit crimes to make up for their lost benefits, well they have already proven they have are criminals so what is the surprise there?

Your posts are so full of hatred and vitriol. If I were religious, all I would be able to say is "I'm praying for you"

cc_rider: Just for a little perspective, I wonder how many people who work at Walmart are shoved off onto the food stamps and Medicaid system because their employer doesn't pay a living wage, and cuts hours to less than full time, so they aren't eligible for health insurance?

Politifact rated a claim of this point as "Mostly true". $1,000 / employee, but that is based on a study from 2004, and things may have changed.

Here's a more recent study:

Low Wages at a Single Wal-Mart Store Cost Taxpayers about $1 Million Every Year

http://democrats.edworkforce.house.gov/press-release/low-wages-singl e- wal-mart-store-cost-taxpayers-about-1-million-every-year-says-new

That is a myopic view of the economy. It works because it rejects the premise that the employer is a taxpayer and ultimately pays for it anyway. If they paid a living wage, they are still paying for it, so its pretty much a wash.

Companies don't pay taxes, they act merely as an opaque medium through which citizens are taxed without their direct knowledge.


The point was not that Walmart employees don't pay taxes, which they certainly do, through their paychecks. It was that their wages are so low, and even though they are employed, many of them still have to turn to govt. assistance programs to make ends meet. It compared Walmart's wages to similar places like Costco, who pays their workers a lot more and makes sure they are eligible for insurance through the company.

In addition, the less money people are paid, the less taxes they pay, the less money they can spend, and put back into the economy, so yes, low wages cost the taxpayers money. Walmart isn't the only culprit, just the largest one.
 
2013-11-13 07:17:01 PM  
I'm OK with this. I don't like thieves.But I can't get especially excited about it.
If you want me to get excited, go after some of the real thieves.
 
2013-11-13 07:17:51 PM  

keiverarrow: Honestly, that whole situation seemed to me like a staged incident.  when the EBT system went down, whose call was it to let everyone just have whatever they wanted?  The cashiers should have said no.  Someone approved that mess higher up the chain, and I believe that was done to create an anti-poor political climate

success


Think about it this way, the state fronts the millions of dollars to offset the debt this cost to start this whole thing, then they hope most people that have EBT will participate in this whole thing. Now they can cancel most everyone's cards, and the people who participated, they now owe the state for the rest of their lives. In the end, the state (in the long term) saves millions by not having to give money out, plus they can now garnish everyone's paychecks.
 
2013-11-13 07:18:38 PM  

libranoelrose: I will never understand how people can be mad at poor people who catch a break.

The rich steal and they get the taxpayers to give them billions of dollars.

Poor people steal and the middle class morons get pissed off because the poor people are trying to steal their cookie!!!!111


Umm... last I checked assistance programs were in the trillion a year area...
 
2013-11-13 07:27:19 PM  
Ugh, my god, that site. The comments. Why are there still people that stupid?

You can always tell the people who have no real concept what freedom is, what America and its constitution really represent, or the definitions of communism or socialism by all of the American flag, bald eagle and/or military-themed sigpics.
 
2013-11-13 07:28:39 PM  

unreasonable ass: lockers: JuicePats: lockers: The punishment for abusing the system is to starve peoples kids. This makes people happy? Meanwhile all those companies who did not follow policy gets a pass? Man you guys are cruel and greedy.

Wal-Mart lost a shiatton of money on the deal.

okay, so yeah, I guess they will finally train their staff better.

It was Walmart upper management that made the decision. They rolled the dice and lost. I'd be willing to bet they figured they would be paid for the overages and everything would be copacetic.


I was thinking they probably saved the stores from a riot. It's likely cheaper to have let the people just "pay" with their EBT cards instead of getting into a riot situation. This way they have records of who stole how much.
 
2013-11-13 07:33:40 PM  

Tigger: Deedeemarz: keiverarrow: Honestly, that whole situation seemed to me like a staged incident.  when the EBT system went down, whose call was it to let everyone just have whatever they wanted?  The cashiers should have said no.  Someone approved that mess higher up the chain, and I believe that was done to create an anti-poor political climate

success

How is that anti-poor? Honest poor people wouldn't have perpetuated a fraud. These free-loading criminals saw it as yet another opportunity to get something for nothing.

Too bad we can't reallocate the money the state is taking away from those asshats to the honest EBT users who shopped that day and didn't steal.
This is not anti-poor. This is crime-doesn't-pay. And I hope the stores remember next time to stick to their $50 limits--they lost a lot of money on this.

Every single person who spent more EBT money than they had in their account should lose their entitlements FOREVER. Criminals don't deserve assistance from the taxpayers.

I love a good 'binary view of the world and no consideration for the negative consequences that will result" farker.

What do you think all those desperate starving people will do when they lose their assistance forever?


Get a job?
 
2013-11-13 07:35:52 PM  

chewd: AmbassadorBooze: My internal world

...is a horrible place filled with awful people.


You are correct.  No argument.  Luckily my internal world is stuck where it is.  Except when it spills over onto fark comments pages.
 
2013-11-13 07:36:55 PM  

Gentoolive: walrusonion: As someone who works 40/hrs a week and pays taxes but begrudgingly still had to get EBT (a whole $86 dollars a month) I am very happy these scumbags are getting punished.

When the govt sends you that refund check every year, that is not "paying taxes"


A refund is for the overpayment of taxes, generally. I get one and I definitely pay thousands in Fed. income tax. The problem is that my state requires my exemptions on the W-4 you file to be the same as the Federal. However, my state doesn't recognize the many exemptions and tax credits that the Feds do. As a result I usually owe my state a couple hundred dollars but receive a refund check from the Feds.
 
2013-11-13 07:46:35 PM  

SouthParkCon: libranoelrose: I will never understand how people can be mad at poor people who catch a break.

The rich steal and they get the taxpayers to give them billions of dollars.

Poor people steal and the middle class morons get pissed off because the poor people are trying to steal their cookie!!!!111

Preach on....


It's a myth that the middle class doesn't care about the rich stealing. Just because we are pissed off about one thing doesn't mean we condone the other. This story isn't about the rich though, this is a different discussion.
 
2013-11-13 07:48:57 PM  
memecrunch.com
 
2013-11-13 08:00:35 PM  

MyRandomName: libranoelrose: I will never understand how people can be mad at poor people who catch a break.

The rich steal and they get the taxpayers to give them billions of dollars.

Poor people steal and the middle class morons get pissed off because the poor people are trying to steal their cookie!!!!111

Umm... last I checked assistance programs were in the trillion a year area...


Check again, because you're really, really wrong.
 
2013-11-13 08:00:58 PM  

Anne.Uumellmahaye: Ugh. On one hand GOOD.
On the other hand a lot of those people are going to have families and now we've got a gaggle of children who won't have food at home for the month.
On a third hand if my mom did something that lost us our grocery money, then tough shiate, figure it out yourself.
On a fourth hand my mom had the know-how to be able to procure food for her family, the sense of sacrifice to go without for herself to be able to feed her children, and wasn't raised in a culture that taught her to be dependent on and expectant of others to meet basic needs.
On a fifth hand my comment now has five hands and is turning into a scary mutant and I'm sure I've pissed off 1,000 people with my Mutant Five-Handed Comment Monster.

This isn't a clear cut issue, I believe.


What are you outta your head??! Ooh, sorry. I forgot.
 
2013-11-13 08:05:14 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: According to this, hourly employees had their hours cut to make up the losses Walmart incurred.

/grain of salt, consider the source, etc etc.


That particular email rant is likely coming from the lowest person on the store's totem pole; if he genuinely thinks that his manager didn't get called to the floor to grovel in front of his regional managers while HR asks him why he shouldn't be canned immediately, the writer is a goddam idiot. That manager made national headlines and not in a good way, which is always a career limiting move.

He'll never be promoted again unless he's otherwise a rock star, and given his actions that day, he isn't. If he sticks around, he'll be shuffled from store to store and eventually sent to the lowest performing store so they can shiatcan him for not making numbers.

Retail is even more cruel and cutthroat as you go higher up the ladder.
 
2013-11-13 08:12:43 PM  

James10952001: SouthParkCon: libranoelrose: I will never understand how people can be mad at poor people who catch a break.

The rich steal and they get the taxpayers to give them billions of dollars.

Poor people steal and the middle class morons get pissed off because the poor people are trying to steal their cookie!!!!111

Preach on....

It's a myth that the middle class doesn't care about the rich stealing. Just because we are pissed off about one thing doesn't mean we condone the other. This story isn't about the rich though, this is a different discussion.


James10952001: If you choose to let poor fraudsters starve, and their children as well, while your "punishment" for rich fraudsters is to give them even more money, then you aren't pissed at the rich, you just push the shiat you're given by them down to people who are even worse of than you, so you actually know how wrong the rich are and you choose to act worse on people who can't handle that. That makes you evil.

Give the people who overran their food cards the same punishment bankers have gotten for collecting illegal fees or foreclosing on homes that aren't behind on dues, adjusted for the damage done, and you'll have a fair punishment.
 
2013-11-13 08:16:51 PM  
*walks into thread...reads comments...sighs for humanity...leaves thread*
 
2013-11-13 08:17:27 PM  

I know more than you: James10952001: SouthParkCon: libranoelrose: I will never understand how people can be mad at poor people who catch a break.

The rich steal and they get the taxpayers to give them billions of dollars.

Poor people steal and the middle class morons get pissed off because the poor people are trying to steal their cookie!!!!111

Preach on....

It's a myth that the middle class doesn't care about the rich stealing. Just because we are pissed off about one thing doesn't mean we condone the other. This story isn't about the rich though, this is a different discussion.

James10952001: If you choose to let poor fraudsters starve, and their children as well, while your "punishment" for rich fraudsters is to give them even more money, then you aren't pissed at the rich, you just push the shiat you're given by them down to people who are even worse of than you, so you actually know how wrong the rich are and you choose to act worse on people who can't handle that. That makes you evil.

Give the people who overran their food cards the same punishment bankers have gotten for collecting illegal fees or foreclosing on homes that aren't behind on dues, adjusted for the damage done, and you'll have a fair punishment.


I want the fines on rich assholes to be huge.  Not 25% of the ill-gained profits (which makes the government a partner in the crime since they are getting a cut).  And there needs to be prison time.  Not for the poor schmuck who was set up for the corporation.  I want to see some CEOs and board members getting three hots and a cot and not at some privately ran prison-spa.

The would apply to elected officials who get caught with their hands in the cookie jar.  No more "resigned to spend more time with his family" crap.
 
2013-11-13 08:23:06 PM  
The people who didn't commit theft have nothing to worry about regarding losing their benefits.  The children will live.
/those that looted and stole will have to make the SSI check stretch.
//once people feel they are entitled, they'll just take what they want.
 
2013-11-13 08:30:52 PM  

The_Six_Fingered_Man: I know that this blog sucks and all, but the quality of writing is atrocious, even for a bagger blog:

Governor Jindal's move comes after public urging from the office of the Louisiana Attorney General, David Vitter.

Sen. David Vitter urged Louisiana officials Wednesday to pursue charges and strip food stamp benefits from Wal-Mart shoppers in north Louisiana who turned a technical glitch into a free shopping spree.
Vitter, R-La., called for state Attorney General Buddy Caldwell

Ugh.


How does that asshole still have a career in politics?

Ah, who am I kidding? He's a Republican, so people seem to conveniently forget his previous shenanigans.
 
2013-11-13 08:31:43 PM  

Silverstaff: Tigger:

I love a good 'binary view of the world and no consideration for the negative consequences that will result" farker.

What do you think all those desperate starving people will do when they lose their assistance forever?

I think the Republicans think that they'll magically become bootstrappy and hard-working since they won't be depending on Government help keeping them down. . .that or they'll just plain die.   In any case, they see it as not their problem anymore.

That's what it comes down to, they genuinely don't care about the poor.  They don't care if they live or die, if they go hungry or not, they assume the poor are that way because they are lazy or immoral and if they were good people they'd have more money.


You really believe that?

You are messed up man...
 
2013-11-13 08:33:33 PM  
The last time I was unemployed I did EBT in MD.  I got a whole $18 / month.  Since the store would just apply what you had first I never kept track of the amount.  I might have accidentally done this if it happened while I was shopping.  Not to the tune of what they are doing, I always paid for the rest from my UE.
 
2013-11-13 08:45:10 PM  

DrunkWithImpotence: And on the other hand, people should know that in the event of a major cluster dark, you don't get to keep the money that was erroneously given to you. Have your paycheck direct deposited? Guess what, if the payroll people or the bank make an oopsie with a decimal point they actually have a short window of a couple days to debit the extra money right back out of your account. Get a bank statement that says you have a billion dollars? You'd better cash out and move to Bolivia before they catch on and correct it. This is a classic case of people seeing an error and thinking it means "Hey, free money!" and frankly, they should know better. It's really as dishonest as noticing a cashier giving you a twenty back in change instead of a five and not correcting them.


There are people who sincerely, passionately believe that they should get to keep that money. They're outraged when the mistakenly credited money is taken out of their accounts, I've seen it. "uh-uh, if it's their mistake, they have to let you keep it, they can't take money out of your account once it's in there."

I used to work in a field where most of my co-workers were not very educated and not very bright (lots of fun trying to manage!). They are quite certain about so many things that are just wrong. And you can't explain to them that they're wrong, because then "you think you're better than me because you went to college." They were outraged when income taxes were deducted from a bonus check, lot's of "they can't do that" and complaints about messing with "my" money.
 
2013-11-13 08:51:31 PM  

The_Six_Fingered_Man: I know that this blog sucks and all, but the quality of writing is atrocious, even for a bagger blog:

Governor Jindal's move comes after public urging from the office of the Louisiana Attorney General, David Vitter.

Sen. David Vitter urged Louisiana officials Wednesday to pursue charges and strip food stamp benefits from Wal-Mart shoppers in north Louisiana who turned a technical glitch into a free shopping spree.
Vitter, R-La., called for state Attorney General Buddy Caldwell

Ugh.


Regardless of how I feel about this matter - and my family was on food stamps about two years ago, for around six months after AT&T laid me off - those people were behaving in a disgusting manner, Wal-Mart should have to eat their losses, the recipients SHOULD be suspended from the program...

Then again, Jindal is a fundie wanna-be exorcist, Vitter is a whoremongering hypocrite, and Caldwell is an asshat of the first degree, and becomes more of a dangerous moron by association with the previous two.

FARK, Louisiana, we deserve better than this.
 
2013-11-13 08:51:35 PM  

TrixieDelite: WTFDYW: Hope they loaded up on non perishables. They may need it.


Like Legos and a Kindle Fire and Lee Press-On Nails and a Roomba? Like those things?


EBT cards are for food-only. Sometimes they can have a little bit of money on there for certain things like diapers, but typically not.
 
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