If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Opposing Views)   Cell phones will kill you. Not your cell phone, mind   (opposingviews.com) divider line 49
    More: Scary, cell phones, dispatchers, heart attacks  
•       •       •

7333 clicks; posted to Main » on 13 Nov 2013 at 1:13 PM (23 weeks ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



49 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest
 
2013-11-13 01:17:13 PM
Mind? No - I don't mind.
 
2013-11-13 01:17:23 PM
Mind?  Mind what?
 
2013-11-13 01:17:45 PM
Lame title, subby, because it's not apparent that your phone killed you so that's why the sentence ended abruptly.
 
2013-11-13 01:20:44 PM
Mine over matter?
 
2013-11-13 01:21:30 PM
It has to be weird to be a 911 dispatcher.
You: ZOMG, I'm dying!!
911: Eh, you're in line for help.
 
2013-11-13 01:22:06 PM
Can you hold on on a sec? I have to take this, hello?
 
2013-11-13 01:22:50 PM
I very much expected this to be about distracted drivers running over pedestrians/motorcycles/priuses. (priui?)
 
2013-11-13 01:23:57 PM
So my cell phone or my mind will not kill me?

That seems obvious. Like this guy who wasn`t killed by a cell phone but by an underlying medical condition...
 
2013-11-13 01:24:06 PM
We're just going to let racquetball off the hook?
 
2013-11-13 01:24:32 PM

Skyd1v: I very much expected this to be about distracted drivers running over pedestrians/motorcycles/priuses. (priui?)


Same here.
 
2013-11-13 01:25:42 PM
Well played, subby's family. Let us know the arrangements and we'll send flowers.
 
2013-11-13 01:28:16 PM
Shiat happened, dispatch trainer admits her mistake, is appropriately punished, feels remorseful.

My outrage is not needed here.
 
2013-11-13 01:29:36 PM
Is this the same chick that pulled a gun on tv reporters?
 
2013-11-13 01:29:56 PM
The suspended dispatcher, Shauna Justice

No Shauna Justice, no peace!

"Look, I was playing Candy Crush, get off my back y'all"
 
2013-11-13 01:32:53 PM
This still happens? They know they are being recorded and on video right?
 
2013-11-13 01:32:58 PM
Ahh, cellphones... has there ever been an invention more efficient at allowing the common person to publicly diplay the fact that they are a self-absorbed asshole?
 
2013-11-13 01:33:25 PM
 
2013-11-13 01:37:08 PM
I have no words for this. The failure of the trainee was bad enough, but the failure of the supervisory trainer, who was experienced and SHOULD HAVE caught the mistake of the trainee (Which would be expected of a newbie) is even worse.

Does Florida license their EMDs like Tennessee does? Yank their license. Thank you for your service to EMS, your skills are no longer required.
 
2013-11-13 01:42:03 PM
To further illustrate my point, this is a screenshot of the two-monitor set up of the common, off the shelf Zoll RescueNet Computer aided dispatch software used to track and dispatch 911 Ambulances and Fire Trucks. It can quickly cause death by information overload.

www.zolldata.com
There is typically either a third touch screen or a console which allows transmit over multiple agency radio frequencies as well. The standard is to have a dispatch out within 1 minute of the call, some agencies have a 30 second dispatch limit, and many dispatch agencies will also initiate priority medical dispatch pre-arrival instructions, which allow medical and first aid instructions to be given to laypeople and healthcare agencies outside of a hospital.

Dispatching a 911 call is NOT the time to be goofing off or distracted.
 
2013-11-13 01:43:24 PM
Siri, where is the Ormand Rec Center?
 
2013-11-13 01:55:47 PM
A man dies and the c*nt is suspended with pay and keeps her job.

Must be nice to be in the ruling class in a police state. Not ethical.. but nice.
 
2013-11-13 01:57:50 PM
Next time call the new emergency number for better service: 0118 999 881 999 119 725

3.

Again the new number is: 0118 999 881 999 119 725

3
 
2013-11-13 01:57:54 PM

dready zim: So my cell phone or my mind will not kill me?

That seems obvious. Like this guy who wasn`t killed by a cell phone but by an underlying medical condition...


the underlying medical condition were his playmates who stated the wrong Rec Center and 15 vital minutes ticked away. this is a clean cut case of morans and it's shiatty of them to blame Ms.Justice. i feel bad for her. hell, if this guy had a "i've fallen and I can't get up" thingie it woulda been a spot-on GPS response but nooooooooo. his friends were idiots.
 
2013-11-13 02:11:04 PM
Update: The newspaper sent a reporter to her home to interview her, which was apparently an unwelcome gesture, because the dispatcher pointed a gun at the reporter. Which you can't do, even in Florida.

http://www.newsherald.com/news/crime-public-safety/dispatcher-arrest ed -after-pointing-gun-at-reporter-1.234005?tc=cr
 
2013-11-13 02:14:30 PM

hardinparamedic: To further illustrate my point, this is a screenshot of the two-monitor set up of the common, off the shelf Zoll RescueNet Computer aided dispatch software used to track and dispatch 911 Ambulances and Fire Trucks. It can quickly cause death by information overload.


There is typically either a third touch screen or a console which allows transmit over multiple agency radio frequencies as well. The standard is to have a dispatch out within 1 minute of the call, some agencies have a 30 second dispatch limit, and many dispatch agencies will also initiate priority medical dispatch pre-arrival instructions, which allow medical and first aid instructions to be given to laypeople and healthcare agencies outside of a hospital.

Dispatching a 911 call is NOT the time to be goofing off or distracted.


Sorry, what were you saying?
 
2013-11-13 02:22:36 PM

hardinparamedic: I have no words for this. The failure of the trainee was bad enough, but the failure of the supervisory trainer, who was experienced and SHOULD HAVE caught the mistake of the trainee (Which would be expected of a newbie) is even worse.

Does Florida license their EMDs like Tennessee does? Yank their license. Thank you for your service to EMS, your skills are no longer required.


Some states aren't even using EMDs yet. In KS several rural counties barely have what could be counted as a CAD system. I am fortunate to live and work in an area that is well ahead of the curve on both aspects.

 However from the video and the dispatch center involved I highly doubt that they weren't EMDs.
 
2013-11-13 02:26:58 PM

hardinparamedic: To further illustrate my point, this is a screenshot of the two-monitor set up of the common, off the shelf Zoll RescueNet Computer aided dispatch software used to track and dispatch 911 Ambulances and Fire Trucks. It can quickly cause death by information overload.

[www.zolldata.com image 486x193]
There is typically either a third touch screen or a console which allows transmit over multiple agency radio frequencies as well. The standard is to have a dispatch out within 1 minute of the call, some agencies have a 30 second dispatch limit, and many dispatch agencies will also initiate priority medical dispatch pre-arrival instructions, which allow medical and first aid instructions to be given to laypeople and healthcare agencies outside of a hospital.

Dispatching a 911 call is NOT the time to be goofing off or distracted.

andrewjpatrick.files.wordpress.com

No one has any problem understanding that there was a problem for fark's sake.  Why must you drone on and on?  We get it. You work EMS.  Guess what?  I did it for almost ten years and I've never mentioned it on Fark before and probably never will again.  You know why?  Because:

andrewjpatrick.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-11-13 02:33:16 PM

skinink: Next time call the new emergency number for better service: 0118 999 881 999 119 725

3.

Again the new number is: 0118 999 881 999 119 725

3


What's that number?
 
2013-11-13 02:36:57 PM

hardinparamedic: I have no words for this. The failure of the trainee was bad enough


Maybe you don't understand the point of training.  The trainer wouldn't be plugged in with the trainee if they were expected to operate at a competent level which the PD/FD/Whatever is admitting by providing training.  The trainee bears no responsibility for this mishap at all, and if any psychological damage was done to the trainee the operating dispatch center is probably liable for providing a neglectful and therefore incompetent trainer.

Being in a similar industry, I feel qualified to say letting trainees make mistakes and correcting them is how they get their shiat together, it's how they learn to maintain vigilance and check everything in triplicate, because humans, by in large, tend to go with the f-it that's close enough, which works for most jobs but isn't appropriate in lines of work like this.
 
2013-11-13 02:37:44 PM
FTA: "She was very remorseful about what happened, very caring about it. She admitted to what her mistake was."

Nice. "I killed a guy because of my awful, selfish, entitled attitude which mean I couldn't even be bothered to do my job while I was supposed to be helping save lives. Ain't nobody got time for dat!!!"
 
2013-11-13 02:38:45 PM
There will be no justice until Justice is fired.
 
2013-11-13 02:46:30 PM

hardinparamedic: To further illustrate my point, this is a screenshot of the two-monitor set up of the common, off the shelf Zoll RescueNet Computer aided dispatch software used to track and dispatch 911 Ambulances and Fire Trucks. It can quickly cause death by information overload.

[www.zolldata.com image 486x193]
There is typically either a third touch screen or a console which allows transmit over multiple agency radio frequencies as well. The standard is to have a dispatch out within 1 minute of the call, some agencies have a 30 second dispatch limit, and many dispatch agencies will also initiate priority medical dispatch pre-arrival instructions, which allow medical and first aid instructions to be given to laypeople and healthcare agencies outside of a hospital.

Dispatching a 911 call is NOT the time to be goofing off or distracted.


You're farking at work, aren't you?

Don't bother answering.  I've already judged you.
 
2013-11-13 02:59:50 PM

Begoggle: Mind?  Mind what?


The gap.
 
2013-11-13 03:04:20 PM
Opposing Views bought the "Anything Submitted Gets Greened" plan
 
2013-11-13 03:07:55 PM

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Why must you drone on and on?  We get it. You work EMS


What are you even on about? I didn't say a word about me, or what I do. I made that post to point out that what they did is not as simple as picking up a phone and saying "We're on the way!"

Go troll someone else, I've heard this shtick before.

mike_d85: You're farking at work, aren't you?


If that's what you judge me for, wait till you find out I get paid to sleep on the job.... :)

bigdanc: Maybe you don't understand the point of training.  The trainer wouldn't be plugged in with the trainee if they were expected to operate at a competent level which the PD/FD/Whatever is admitting by providing training


That's not what I intended to convey, I'm sorry that was what I came across as. The failure of the trainee should have been immediately caught by the trainer, and that person should have stepped in to take the call at that point. Had that person NOT been distracted by doing whatever on her cell phone, she might have caught the fact her help was needed.
 
2013-11-13 03:16:02 PM
I loathe that site. Always when I am a paragraph or two in, this stupid ad pops up resetting my page back to the top. Who's the ass clown responsible for this?
 
Ant
2013-11-13 03:20:18 PM

wxgeek: Update: The newspaper sent a reporter to her home to interview her, which was apparently an unwelcome gesture, because the dispatcher pointed a gun at the reporter. Which you can't do, even in Florida.


I don't know. Was the reporter black, drinking an Arizona Iced Tea, eating skittles, and wearing a hoodie?
 
2013-11-13 03:22:20 PM

Ant: wxgeek: Update: The newspaper sent a reporter to her home to interview her, which was apparently an unwelcome gesture, because the dispatcher pointed a gun at the reporter. Which you can't do, even in Florida.

I don't know. Was the reporter black, drinking an Arizona Iced Tea, eating skittles, and wearing a hoodie?


DRINK!
 
Ant
2013-11-13 03:23:20 PM

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: hardinparamedic: To further illustrate my point, this is a screenshot of the two-monitor set up of the common, off the shelf Zoll RescueNet Computer aided dispatch software used to track and dispatch 911 Ambulances and Fire Trucks. It can quickly cause death by information overload.

[www.zolldata.com image 486x193]
There is typically either a third touch screen or a console which allows transmit over multiple agency radio frequencies as well. The standard is to have a dispatch out within 1 minute of the call, some agencies have a 30 second dispatch limit, and many dispatch agencies will also initiate priority medical dispatch pre-arrival instructions, which allow medical and first aid instructions to be given to laypeople and healthcare agencies outside of a hospital.

Dispatching a 911 call is NOT the time to be goofing off or distracted.
[andrewjpatrick.files.wordpress.com image 400x312]

No one has any problem understanding that there was a problem for fark's sake.  Why must you drone on and on?  We get it. You work EMS.  Guess what?  I did it for almost ten years and I've never mentioned it on Fark before and probably never will again.  You know why?  Because:

[andrewjpatrick.files.wordpress.com image 400x312]


Guess what? Nobody cares that you don't care. I enjoy hardinparamedic's anecdotes.

So
img.fark.net
Right back at you.
 
2013-11-13 03:45:51 PM
Awful bloody film. I say, it's just a ridiculous premise. What would happen if your mobile phone killed you? Why would a mobile phone kill anyone? Doesn't make sense. How can a mobile phone have an agenda and kill people?
 
Ant
2013-11-13 03:48:43 PM

tarheel07: Awful bloody film. I say, it's just a ridiculous premise. What would happen if your mobile phone killed you? Why would a mobile phone kill anyone? Doesn't make sense. How can a mobile phone have an agenda and kill people?


www.feistees.com
 
2013-11-13 03:56:40 PM
Life is a one way journey, friends. This takes our precious time currency away.

encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com

/Ironic because I am here.
 
2013-11-13 04:01:55 PM
Wait a second. No FLORIDA tag?
/note to self: don't have heard attack while in Florida
// Don't do ANYTHING in Florida.
 
2013-11-13 06:09:47 PM
Holy crap, they got it wrong twice. It's Ormond Beach, not Orman or Ormand. And supposedly Florida is where the dummies are. People who can't spell "heart" are quite positive of this, aren't they,

greylion: Wait a second. No FLORIDA tag?
/note to self: don't have heard attack while in Florida
// Don't do ANYTHING in Florida.


?
 
2013-11-13 10:08:06 PM
I'm confused.

Hill's friends called 911 after he collapsed during a racquet ball game at the Nova Community Center in Orman Beach, Fla. The callers mistakenly told the dispatcher trainee that they were at "Ormand Rec Center."

Even if the supervisor was on their phone during this, how is it their fault exactly? I'm not saying what they did was right, but I fail to why they are being held accountable.

/devil's advocate
//does not work in emergency dispatch
 
2013-11-14 12:05:02 AM
Cell phone's gonna fark you up when you die!

/no more than us, mind
 
2013-11-14 09:30:37 AM

Clint_Torres: I'm confused.

Hill's friends called 911 after he collapsed during a racquet ball game at the Nova Community Center in Orman Beach, Fla. The callers mistakenly told the dispatcher trainee that they were at "Ormand Rec Center."

Even if the supervisor was on their phone during this, how is it their fault exactly? I'm not saying what they did was right, but I fail to why they are being held accountable.

/devil's advocate
//does not work in emergency dispatch


I'm thinking that they have systems in place (E911 for instance)  to verify that the information they are receiving is correct.  Even discounting prankers and swatters, somebody in distress may not be the most accurate conveyor of information.

/not devil's advocate
//work selling telephone systems
 
2013-11-14 11:56:20 AM

pueblonative: Clint_Torres: I'm confused.

Hill's friends called 911 after he collapsed during a racquet ball game at the Nova Community Center in Orman Beach, Fla. The callers mistakenly told the dispatcher trainee that they were at "Ormand Rec Center."

Even if the supervisor was on their phone during this, how is it their fault exactly? I'm not saying what they did was right, but I fail to why they are being held accountable.

/devil's advocate
//does not work in emergency dispatch

I'm thinking that they have systems in place (E911 for instance)  to verify that the information they are receiving is correct.  Even discounting prankers and swatters, somebody in distress may not be the most accurate conveyor of information.

/not devil's advocate
//work selling telephone systems


Ahhh. Okay.
 
2013-11-14 12:53:29 PM

pueblonative: I'm thinking that they have systems in place (E911 for instance)  to verify that the information they are receiving is correct.  Even discounting prankers and swatters, somebody in distress may not be the most accurate conveyor of information.


Automatic Location Identifier, or ALI. Most of the United States outside of very rural areas utilizes it to dispatch at public safety answering points, and when calling from cell phones, it can pinpoint the nearest tower the person is using to make the call. If someone is giving information that doesn't match up with the ALI information on the computer aided dispatch system, they're supposed to clarify and verify that.
 
Displayed 49 of 49 comments

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report