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(NBC News)   The gales of November come early for ANG AQ-9 Reaper drone. So, there's $5 million of your tax dollars sitting on the bottom of Lake Ontario now. Take THAT, terrorists   (investigations.nbcnews.com) divider line 73
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2013-11-13 09:57:16 AM
The Flying Sub is real!
 
2013-11-13 10:12:15 AM
I thought drones were designed to be cheap & disposable - to allow fighter pilots more time to play beach volleyball?
 
2013-11-13 10:20:17 AM
Oh well.  In 30 years, maybe someone will name a good beer after it.
 
2013-11-13 10:26:35 AM
Yes but I think we all want to know, does Ontario give up her dead?
 
2013-11-13 10:33:11 AM
If only she had put 15 more miles behind her.
 
2013-11-13 10:42:15 AM
The scene back at base:

www.washingtonpost.com
 
2013-11-13 11:39:23 AM
Did it collide with any Avro Arrow parts ?
 
2013-11-13 11:40:04 AM
www.paperstreetbrigade.com

/Best 2 out of 3?
 
2013-11-13 11:44:31 AM
There is a drone in Lake Ontario,
With gigabytes of memory to spy...
 
2013-11-13 11:45:10 AM
Wait with the drone down who is watching those shifty Canadians?
 
2013-11-13 11:45:21 AM
Eh, on the upside, cheaper than any other National Guard aircraft and no loss of life or endangerment. Didn't need to rush search and rescue out.
 
2013-11-13 11:45:52 AM
Farther below, Lake Ontario
Takes in what the Air Force can send her

/I did RTFA, but Air National Guard doesn't scan
 
2013-11-13 11:47:30 AM

oldfarthenry: I thought drones were designed to be cheap & disposable - to allow fighter pilots more time to play beach volleyball?


They COULD set things up that flying drones is easy, but for stupid reasons they don't.  For example, it's possible to fly a drone in a climate-controlled room running rotating shifts to ensure the pilots are productive.  What they really do is shut two guys into a cramped and stuffy room for 12+ hour shifts with no breaks -- not even to go to the bathroom.  The intent is to show solidarity with the guys on the ground, not that anyone there can see or hear them.  The result is that there is a chronic shortage of drone pilots because the only apparent reason for making them suffer is sadistic incompetence.
 
2013-11-13 11:48:11 AM
Would that be the Canadian side or the American side?

Just asking. No particular reason.
 
2013-11-13 11:49:28 AM
5 Million ?
5 Million ?

Don't forget about the 24 Billion the Republitards flushed down the shiatter trying to do something that failed 30 times before and was absolutley going to fail without question again.

 Twenty.Four.Billion.
 
2013-11-13 11:50:03 AM

Moodybastard: Eh, on the upside, cheaper than any other National Guard aircraft and no loss of life or endangerment. Didn't need to rush search and rescue out.


Well, it sure is better than dropping a B-3 Bomber.
 
2013-11-13 11:50:25 AM
Dammit. 20 miles North East of Oswego, NY. American waters!
 
2013-11-13 11:50:47 AM

WordsnCollision: [www.paperstreetbrigade.com image 556x296]

/Best 2 out of 3?


You're damn right!
 
2013-11-13 11:51:13 AM
Like they give a fark.
 
2013-11-13 11:53:05 AM

ChrisDe: There is a drone in Lake Ontario,
With gigabytes of memory to spy...


leaves me
Droneless
Droneless
Drooooooneless
 
2013-11-13 11:54:02 AM
We have one of those things that fly over here all of the time. I've seen it a number of times. You can tell it's a drone because it has the bulbous head and the really thin body and wings, like one of those foam airplanes you used to get in cheap cereal your parents bought to save money. I saw an even bigger plane close up not long ago. It was the same basic idea but bigger and fatter than a drone. It was probably a RADAR plane of some sort. Military grey-blue.

Those were so full of air you had to eat a bowl the size of a wash basin to satisfy your hunger, so no money was saved, but they had great toys in them besides the stupid foam airplanes.
 
2013-11-13 11:55:39 AM

Griftin Rubes: 5 Million ?
5 Million ?

Don't forget about the 24 Billion the Republitards flushed down the shiatter trying to do something that failed 30 times before and was absolutley going to fail without question again.

 Twenty.Four.Billion.


300 billion. The amount added to the deficit the day after the shutdown.

But you keep harping on the mythical 24 billion.
 
2013-11-13 11:55:47 AM
Air Force PR Department:  "ooops, our bad"
 
2013-11-13 11:56:44 AM

oldfarthenry: I thought drones were designed to be cheap & disposable - to allow fighter pilots more time to play beach volleyball?


$5m is cheap compared to what fighters are going for nowadays.

Had that been an F-18 Super Hornet we'd be out over $100m.

"Cheap" in government/military circles is a relative term. At least this thing didn't have a pilot in it... necessitating costs of search and rescue (or worse, leaving a family without a loved one).

For those reasons I think we'll see drone combat aircraft are the future. It will take a while to get there, but I'd not be surprised if the last human-piloted combat aircraft are currently on the drawing boards.
 
2013-11-13 11:57:12 AM

brantgoose: We have one of those things that fly over here all of the time. I've seen it a number of times. You can tell it's a drone because it has the bulbous head and the really thin body and wings, like one of those foam airplanes you used to get in cheap cereal your parents bought to save money. I saw an even bigger plane close up not long ago. It was the same basic idea but bigger and fatter than a drone. It was probably a RADAR plane of some sort. Military grey-blue.

Those were so full of air you had to eat a bowl the size of a wash basin to satisfy your hunger, so no money was saved, but they had great toys in them besides the stupid foam airplanes.


Why do they mostly look like dicks with wings?
 
2013-11-13 11:57:55 AM
So what, now Republicans are against new military technology? After AAAAAALLLLLL OF THE 1980s-2008?

Shut the fark up you farking hypocritical assholes. You loved watching cruise missiles slam into Iraq and crowed at bunker-busting bombs and shrugged off useless fighter jets because your pals at Raytheon and Boeing got fat no bid contracts.

But spend $5 million of oogity-boogity taxes on a farking robot death machine that doesn't put poor brown kids in harm's way and all of a sudden it's an imposition on your precious farking wallets.
 
2013-11-13 12:06:09 PM
Machines break sometimes.  It happens with everything.
 
2013-11-13 12:06:14 PM

brantgoose: Would that be the Canadian side or the American side?

Just asking. No particular reason.


Where will they bury the survivors?

(It's a trick question, because drones don't have passengers.)
 
2013-11-13 12:09:32 PM
Better than a $40 million fighter at the bottom of the lake.
 
2013-11-13 12:10:58 PM

Ambitwistor: brantgoose: Would that be the Canadian side or the American side?

Just asking. No particular reason.

Where will they bury the survivors?

(It's a trick question, because drones don't have passengers.)


My favorite answer to that question is "Wherever we find them..."

/ No witnesses
 
2013-11-13 12:14:34 PM
No doubt it was shot down by the Iranian Army.
 
2013-11-13 12:14:36 PM

Griftin Rubes: Twenty.Four.Billion.


That link is broken or something
 
2013-11-13 12:14:53 PM
Wait before I get outraged I need to know if military spending in general is wasting my tax dollars or if some failed Obama policy caused this aircraft to crash thus wasting my tax dollars.
 
2013-11-13 12:17:28 PM
It's not a drone.
Its a UCAV.

Drones are targets.
 
2013-11-13 12:19:21 PM

MyRandomName: Griftin Rubes: 5 Million ?
5 Million ?

Don't forget about the 24 Billion the Republitards flushed down the shiatter trying to do something that failed 30 times before and was absolutley going to fail without question again.

 Twenty.Four.Billion.

300 billion. The amount added to the deficit the day after the shutdown.

But you keep harping on the mythical 24 billion.


Hey, look- it's That Guy. You know, the one who acts like he knows Economics.

Quick question: explain the difference between "lost revenue" and "investment". Here's a hint to get you started- think about the role T-Bills play in the US economy, especially relating to the National debt.

Part 2 of this question relates to the long-term inflation rate, the current interest rate on T-Bills, and free money, but let's cover the basics first: What would that $300 billion have looked like if no one wanted to invest in America?
 
2013-11-13 12:23:58 PM
img.fark.net
Unavailable for questioning . . .
 
2013-11-13 12:24:21 PM
We'll be needing a photoshop of a Reaper drone with water wings labeled "student driver." Insert below.
 
2013-11-13 12:25:00 PM

lilbjorn: No doubt it was shot down by the Iranian Army.


With a Super Soaker
 
2013-11-13 12:29:04 PM
Good job by the pilot. Traditionally the Air Force gives medals to fish killers.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
m00
2013-11-13 12:32:14 PM

Griftin Rubes: 5 Million ?
5 Million ?


Well, in all fairness this is equivalent to the cost of supporting only one or two welfare queens.
 
2013-11-13 12:34:28 PM

Griftin Rubes: 5 Million ?
5 Million ?

Don't forget about the 24 Billion the Republitards flushed down the shiatter trying to do something that failed 30 times before and was absolutley going to fail without question again.

 Twenty.Four.Billion.


Still cheaper than the Green and shovel ready jobs recovery act.
 
2013-11-13 12:35:35 PM
So, what's the salvage value?
 
2013-11-13 12:36:57 PM
Oh no, what will the Pentagon do without those 4 new toilet seats that will have to be cut from the budget.
 
2013-11-13 12:37:33 PM
Considering the NYANG was flying F-16s, that would have cost $20 million had they not changed over to drones
 
2013-11-13 12:38:05 PM

dragonchild: The result is that there is a chronic shortage of drone pilots because the only apparent reason for making them suffer is sadistic incompetence.


That is the reason that most things are done in the military.

/Marine Corps vet
 
2013-11-13 12:38:35 PM
so safeguards like parachutes or deployable water-wings weren't allowed in the development?
 
2013-11-13 12:39:26 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-11-13 12:42:56 PM

m00: Griftin Rubes: 5 Million ?
5 Million ?

Well, in all fairness this is equivalent to the cost of supporting only one or two welfare queens.


Leave congress out of this.
 
2013-11-13 12:47:43 PM

dragonchild: They COULD set things up that flying drones is easy, but for stupid reasons they don't.  For example, it's possible to fly a drone in a climate-controlled room running rotating shifts to ensure the pilots are productive.  What they really do is shut two guys into a cramped and stuffy room for 12+ hour shifts with no breaks -- not even to go to the bathroom.  The intent is to show solidarity with the guys on the ground, not that anyone there can see or hear them.  The result is that there is a chronic shortage of drone pilots because the only apparent reason for making them suffer is sadistic incompetence.


No, they really don't do that though.
 
2013-11-13 12:50:33 PM
Was it after the SeaQuest?
 
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