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(NPR)   You'd better sit down for this, because the media is comparing the latest GOP front runner to . . . Reagan. Who could have guessed this shocking twist in the narrative?   (npr.org) divider line 107
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2013-11-13 10:34:25 AM  

lennavan: You'd better sit down for this, because the media is comparing the latest GOP front runner to . . . Reagan. Who could have guessed this shocking twist in the narrative?

So the GOP front runner is an actor who doesn't know anything about politics and will flat out lie to the American public to generate fear in order to drive voters to select him then when elected will begin a stupid "War on Drugs," pass the largest peacetime tax increase, fund social security and use the military however he likes ignoring Congress?

Oh wait, we're going with the revisionist history.


He will also contact terrorists that have taken Americans hostage and ensure they don't get set free before the election was over, because that would politically have helped his opponent.

He will also nearly end the entire world by simultaneously talking about how Russia is the "Evil Empire" while trying to develop a first strike nuclear capability which would have allowed him to safely wipe out Russia any time he wanted once it was up and running without having to worry about the counter strike.
 
2013-11-13 10:41:20 AM  

Muta: HotWingConspiracy: LOL, old people

Reagan means nothing to the swing demos.

I kinda agree with this.  By 2016 people who are 28 would not have been born while Reagan was President anyone under 35 will have no first hand memories of him as president.  The GOP needs a new "Reagan".


They already created a new Reagan.  Same kinda thing they did when they created Republican Jesus.
 
2013-11-13 10:42:46 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: pslong009: Of course he's being compared to Reagan. Christie also negotiated with terrorists.

[frontpagemag.com image 480x341]

/I'm kidding, I'm kidding
//please don't hurt me

All the Dems need to do to destroy a Christie campaign is run that picture.


Assuming the tea baggers haven't done so first.
 
2013-11-13 10:42:47 AM  

BunkoSquad: Bullshiat. Christie is twice the man Reagan was.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-11-13 10:45:57 AM  

MFAWG: mrshowrules: MFAWG: mrshowrules: stpauler: It's funny how Christie is portrayed as a centrist or uniter solely for the fact that he had his hand out when it came to FEMA money.

Typical example of Republican empathy.

-supports gay marriage if they have a gay daughter
-against torture, if they have been tortured
-supports FEMA as long as they are the ones hit by a disaster
-supports immigration reform if they are the children of immigrants

Cheney, McCain, Christie and Rubio.  Real empathy is something only a Liberal is capable of.

Not really. He stood up to the mouthbreathers in his own party during the Bush Administration.

What does that have to do with empathy?

You're using a bad example of Senator McCain's lack thereof. Whether you're doing it to try and occupy some kind of smug moral high ground is probably in the eye of the beholder.


You are missing the point. Republicans only seem to demonstrate "empathy" when they have direct experience with something.  McCain was tortured and is therefore against torture.  He has taken the correct Liberal position but only because he personally knows torture.

A Liberal is able to demonstrate true empathy by understanding why something is wrong even if it doesn't affect them lately.  They can be for same-sex marriage without knowing a same sex couple.  They can be for immigration reform even if there family has been here multiple generations.  They can understand why FEMA support to a disaster zone is important even if they have never been in a disaster.

Empathy is the ability to put yourself in other people's shoes and imagine what it would be like.  Many Republicans only seem to be able to put themselves in their own shoes.
 
2013-11-13 10:46:25 AM  
So, after outlining the hundreds of ways in which Reagan was explicitly anti-minority, the author lays out a single minor example of token outreach as justification for how Reagan was *really* pro-minority
 
2013-11-13 10:48:08 AM  
Wait so he cut and ran in Lebanon after 300 marines were killed, or did they mean he sold guns to Iran and gave the money to nun-raping drug smugglers?
 
2013-11-13 10:48:37 AM  
So they want someone who:

Raised taxes
Tripled the Federal Deficit
Increase unemployment
Fund and support terrorists (or at least create them)

Or is this a fictional fairyland Ronald Reagun who didn't do anything wrong and brought use out of the stone age?
 
2013-11-13 10:48:49 AM  

lennavan: Muta: HotWingConspiracy: LOL, old people

Reagan means nothing to the swing demos.

I kinda agree with this.  By 2016 people who are 28 would not have been born while Reagan was President anyone under 35 will have no first hand memories of him as president.  The GOP needs a new "Reagan".

Makes it a lot easier to revise Reagan's history.


nocturnal001: Muta: HotWingConspiracy: LOL, old people

Reagan means nothing to the swing demos.

I kinda agree with this.  By 2016 people who are 28 would not have been born while Reagan was President anyone under 35 will have no first hand memories of him as president.  The GOP needs a new "Reagan".

They already created a new Reagan.  Same kinda thing they did when they created Republican Jesus.


You're both right.  As the character the GOP creates for Reagan gets further in the past, the less relevant it becomes.  I guess they can recreate Reagan as the President who lead American to balanced budgets during the 90's.  There is a point where their narrative has to have some root in reality.
 
2013-11-13 10:50:16 AM  

Lord_Baull: Wait so he cut and ran in Lebanon after 300 marines were killed, or did they mean he sold guns to Iran and gave the money to nun-raping drug smugglers?


no he cut taxes for the super rich and borrowed the money to make up for it and to support his cold war arms race. now we're left paying the bills.
 
2013-11-13 10:50:37 AM  

Diogenes: They pretended Romney's past, personality, and religion didn't exist.


But Romney's personality does in fact not exist.
 
2013-11-13 10:55:23 AM  

mediaho: It must be tough to know you've peaked in the early '80s.

I guess that's why Ted Nugent, Victoria Jackson, Dennis Miller and Jon Voigt are Republicans.


Sick burn!
 
2013-11-13 10:55:42 AM  
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall so I can easily reach that All-You-Can-Eat buffet that is on your side."

- President Krispy-Kreme Christie
 
2013-11-13 11:04:57 AM  

mediaho: It must be tough to know you've peaked in the early '80s.

I guess that's why Ted Nugent, Victoria Jackson, Dennis Miller and Jon Voigt are Republicans.


I peaked in the early 80s,so I'm not getting a kick out of this reply.
 
2013-11-13 11:05:16 AM  

bootman: Diogenes: They pretended Romney's past, personality, and religion didn't exist.

But Romney's personality does in fact not exist.


Robotic is a kind of personality.
 
MFK
2013-11-13 11:07:38 AM  

MFAWG: mrshowrules: stpauler: It's funny how Christie is portrayed as a centrist or uniter solely for the fact that he had his hand out when it came to FEMA money.

Typical example of Republican empathy.

-supports gay marriage if they have a gay daughter
-against torture, if they have been tortured
-supports FEMA as long as they are the ones hit by a disaster
-supports immigration reform if they are the children of immigrants

Cheney, McCain, Christie and Rubio.  Real empathy is something only a Liberal is capable of.

Not really. He stood up to the mouthbreathers in his own party during the Bush Administration.


and stopped/prevented what, exactly?
 
2013-11-13 11:17:09 AM  

MFK: MFAWG: mrshowrules: stpauler: It's funny how Christie is portrayed as a centrist or uniter solely for the fact that he had his hand out when it came to FEMA money.

Typical example of Republican empathy.

-supports gay marriage if they have a gay daughter
-against torture, if they have been tortured
-supports FEMA as long as they are the ones hit by a disaster
-supports immigration reform if they are the children of immigrants

Cheney, McCain, Christie and Rubio.  Real empathy is something only a Liberal is capable of.

Not really. He stood up to the mouthbreathers in his own party during the Bush Administration.

and stopped/prevented what, exactly?


There was some question about whether or not the military was still bound by the Geneva Conventions and the appropriate military Field Manuals derived from them, which was what gave us Abu Gharib.

McCain cleared that right up and sponsored an act that required that military personnel still follow those rules.
 
2013-11-13 11:17:22 AM  
If Christie is a front runner, I encourage all liberals to fwd: fwd: fwd: and post on facebook how much they admire him and hope he gets the nom.
 
2013-11-13 11:18:14 AM  
Chris Christie is fat.

Michael Moore is fat.

Your mind is blown.

/2016 Tea Party talking points write themselves.
 
2013-11-13 11:18:52 AM  
Are we talking about the Reagan that signed a gun control law because he was afraid of the Black Panthers? That was some superior minority outreach.
 
2013-11-13 11:19:46 AM  

MFAWG: There was some question about whether or not the military was still bound by the Geneva Conventions and the appropriate military Field Manuals derived from them, which was what gave us Abu Gharib.

McCain cleared that right up and sponsored an act that required that military personnel still follow those rules.



There was never a question in the minds of sane, rational people.
 
2013-11-13 11:20:54 AM  
Considering that to be the front-runner for the GOP you just have to slowly jog past a bunch of drooling idiots rolling around on the floor while shiatting themselves, it makes sense that the front-runner would be compared to someone who didn't do the rolling around part.
 
2013-11-13 11:21:14 AM  
Well, who else can they compare GOP front runners to? GWBush? They'd rather not remind the voting public of that mess. GHWBush? The one-termer who said, "read my lips, no new taxes..." and proceeded to raise taxes (not that it was a bad thing, it's that it just went against a rather emphatic statement otherwise). Tricky Dick Nixon? The one person who tore a hole in the GOP that they have yet to mend? Gerald Ford, the president who can't walk straight, the president who pardoned a criminal of the lowest sort, the president for all of 2 years? They'd have to go all the way back to Eisenhower, but then, he's more liberal that the past 2 democratic presidents, Obama and Clinton. The last not-as-liberal GOP president before Eisenhower would be Hoover and he tanked the economy (much like what Reagan did, but in a quicker way).

So of course the GOP's lone standard bearer is Reagan. As such, Reagan is still one of the weakest and worst presidents ever with more members of his staff indicted for ethical and criminal activities than any other administration's.
 
2013-11-13 11:25:40 AM  
He's dead and rather pungent?

Oh. Just pungent, then.
 
2013-11-13 11:29:01 AM  

Headso: the election is a ways off to be talking about "front runners"


It's never too early to play GOP Frontrunner Derpaganza.
 
2013-11-13 11:31:30 AM  

Lost Thought 00: So, after outlining the hundreds of ways in which Reagan was explicitly anti-minority, the author lays out a single minor example of token outreach as justification for how Reagan was *really* pro-minority


Hey let's not reminisce on Reagan's stereotypes of black welfare mothers or the rekindling of the Southern Strategy or his support for South Africa's Apartheid regime. He took a walk with some black people once
 
2013-11-13 11:34:18 AM  

DemonEater: Generation_D: When was the last time the Republican South voted for a Yankee (Civil-war fighting state) American for anything?

Nixon and Reagan were Californians, Ford never won an election. I'm going to say never, because these people were voting Democratic until 1968.

Maybe this is the year, but I doubt it. Southerners don't vote for Yankees.

Hence why Christie would get the nomination by winning northern and western primaries while losing to Rubio, Cruz, Paul, or whatever other dingbats he's up against in the south, and then in the general the southern states would do like they did with Romney, hold their noses and vote for him because while they don't like yankees, they sure as hell ain't votin' for no dimmycrat.  'specially if'n the dimmycrat's a yankee too.


NC- 2008
 
2013-11-13 11:38:04 AM  
i865.photobucket.com

\not obscure.
 
2013-11-13 11:39:18 AM  

Cletus C.: dr_blasto: Reagan was a shiatbag. NPR lets him off the hook far too easily for the "he was something of a dead-ender when it came to supporting apartheid South Africa" shiat. Reagan was shiat.

Goes to place near death of civil rights activists and petitions for "state's rights?" That is a shiatbag. That is Reagan and the world is a better place without him in it.

Christie is going nowhere nationally. He has little to no self control, he will embarrass himself almost instantly, make some crazy farking swing to the right to try and appease the absolutely insane base of his party and will be unable to recover. Let him try, I'll laugh.

Yes, he's probably electable. I can see why that would upset you.


Let me know when he makes it through a Republican Primary for President.
 
2013-11-13 11:42:21 AM  
You'd better sit down for this, because the media is comparing the latest GOP front runner to . . . Reagan.

You mean there's another senile old coot out there who denies that he dyes his hair an improbable black?
 
2013-11-13 11:52:22 AM  

Generation_D: When was the last time the Republican South voted for a Yankee (Civil-war fighting state) American for anything?

Nixon and Reagan were Californians, Ford never won an election. I'm going to say never, because these people were voting Democratic until 1968.

Maybe this is the year, but I doubt it. Southerners don't vote for Yankees.


Um...the last presidential election they voted for an ex-Massachusetts Governor. All of the southern states sans Florida.
 
2013-11-13 11:56:04 AM  
Also, both Bush

Candy Colored Clown: Generation_D: When was the last time the Republican South voted for a Yankee (Civil-war fighting state) American for anything?

Nixon and Reagan were Californians, Ford never won an election. I'm going to say never, because these people were voting Democratic until 1968.

Maybe this is the year, but I doubt it. Southerners don't vote for Yankees.

Um...the last presidential election they voted for an ex-Massachusetts Governor. All of the southern states sans Florida.


Also, both Bushes are from the northeast. Bush the Lesser tried to play it off, but he was born and spent most of his younger days in school above the Mason-Dixon line.
 
2013-11-13 11:57:57 AM  

Candy Colored Clown: Also, both BushCandy Colored Clown: Generation_D: When was the last time the Republican South voted for a Yankee (Civil-war fighting state) American for anything?

Nixon and Reagan were Californians, Ford never won an election. I'm going to say never, because these people were voting Democratic until 1968.

Maybe this is the year, but I doubt it. Southerners don't vote for Yankees.

Um...the last presidential election they voted for an ex-Massachusetts Governor. All of the southern states sans Florida.

Also, both Bushes are from the northeast. Bush the Lesser tried to play it off, but he was born and spent most of his younger days in school above the Mason-Dixon line.


Thirdly, the stupid farks down here would vote for either Bachmann or Santorum in a heartbeat for President.
 
2013-11-13 11:58:27 AM  

kkinnison: So they want someone who:

Raised taxes
Tripled the Federal Deficit
Increase unemployment
Fund and support terrorists (or at least create them)

Or is this a fictional fairyland Ronald Reagun who didn't do anything wrong and brought use out of the stone age?


nocturnal001: They already created a new Reagan.  Same kinda thing they did when they created Republican Jesus.


For some reason these comments were displayed chronologically, instead of the order in which they belonged.

Come to that, they've created a fairyland Obama, Biden, Pelosi, and Reid, rail on about their own mythological species of welfare queens, complain about and try to repeal nonexistent legislation, shudder in terror at imaginary threats... to the point that I think the #1 argument for many "alternate Earth" theories is that a lot of Republicans already live there and are trying to legislate in this one accordingly.
 
2013-11-13 11:59:53 AM  
Reagan the ideal or Reagan the person?
 
2013-11-13 12:04:32 PM  
Christie ate Ronald Reagan?
 
2013-11-13 12:09:36 PM  

lilbjorn: Christie ate Ronald Reagan?


Christie likes to eat corpses that taste like jelly beans.
 
2013-11-13 12:09:48 PM  

lilbjorn: Christie ate Ronald Reagan?


Rove 6:53 - "Unless You Eat the Flesh of St. Reagan and Drink His Blood You Have No Life In Your Primary Campaign"
 
2013-11-13 12:13:18 PM  
Reagan had a likable personality. Christie's  personality might work in Jersey but beef and potatoes midwestern types will despise him, and yea he took pics being nice to Obama, so forget his ever getting past the primaries.
 
2013-11-13 12:16:55 PM  

kkinnison: So they want someone who:

Raised taxes
Tripled the Federal Deficit
Increase unemployment
Fund and support terrorists (or at least create them)

Or is this a fictional fairyland Ronald Reagun who didn't do anything wrong and brought use out of the stone age?


Not this is the land where he gets sole credit for allowing Paul Volcker to continue to follow a Carter administration plan to kill inflation and then create growth by controlling the money supply and interest rates.  This is the land where Reagan never raised taxes only lowered them. Where deficits did not matter, and those were notterrorists they were freedom fighters.

Anything bad that happened duringReagan's presidency was because Jimmy Carter was incompetent.
 
2013-11-13 12:26:48 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: kkinnison: So they want someone who:

Raised taxes
Tripled the Federal Deficit
Increase unemployment
Fund and support terrorists (or at least create them)

Or is this a fictional fairyland Ronald Reagun who didn't do anything wrong and brought use out of the stone age?

Not this is the land where he gets sole credit for allowing Paul Volcker to continue to follow a Carter administration plan to kill inflation and then create growth by controlling the money supply and interest rates.  This is the land where Reagan never raised taxes only lowered them. Where deficits did not matter, and those were notterrorists they were freedom fighters.

Anything bad that happened duringReagan's presidency was because Jimmy Carter was incompetent.


At least we not talking about Cruz being the frontrunner. Otherwise we would have to compare him to Mohammed Omar
 
2013-11-13 12:26:59 PM  

stpauler: It's funny how Christie is portrayed as a centrist or uniter solely for the fact that he had his hand out when it came to FEMA money.


Uh, which republican state has turned down FEMA money? I think you mean "was seen with Obama without frothing"

that's what makes him a "centrist", if you can believe it.
 
m00
2013-11-13 12:34:13 PM  

mrshowrules: You are missing the point. Republicans only seem to demonstrate "empathy" when they have direct experience with something. McCain was tortured and is therefore against torture. He has taken the correct Liberal position but only because he personally knows torture.

A Liberal is able to demonstrate true empathy by understanding why something is wrong even if it doesn't affect them lately. They can be for same-sex marriage without knowing a same sex couple. They can be for immigration reform even if there family has been here multiple generations. They can understand why FEMA support to a disaster zone is important even if they have never been in a disaster.

Empathy is the ability to put yourself in other people's shoes and imagine what it would be like. Many Republicans only seem to be able to put themselves in their own shoes.


This post is bad, and you should feel bad.

/zoidberg
 
2013-11-13 12:34:36 PM  
In fairness, he is twice... maybe 3 times the republican that Reagan was.
 
2013-11-13 12:40:24 PM  
According to Subby's headline,,,, Chris Christie is a gun/drug merchant who gave a certain country's CIA employed leader sarin gas to use on the country next door.

/Featuring Sarah Palin as Ollie North, please mute her derpy scream.
 
2013-11-13 12:46:40 PM  

jayhawk88: Ronald Reagan walks over rubble in a South Bronx lot in August 1980.

The President then told an aid, "Just build a big fence around this whole lot and we'll dump all the retard kids in here. Throw in a couple of Cabbage Patch dolls and some colored paper and they'll be fine."


The two guys to the right look like Hoffman and Redford in all the presidents men.

Yeah Reagan walked through a dump in the Bronx, and it stayed a dump until the mid nineties.
 
2013-11-13 12:50:46 PM  
NPR is "The Media" now? Cool.
 
2013-11-13 12:52:04 PM  
i208.photobucket.com
 
2013-11-13 01:09:40 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: kkinnison: So they want someone who:

Anything bad that happened duringReagan's presidency was because Jimmy Carter was incompetent.


Almost reminds me of another President...
 
2013-11-13 01:11:54 PM  
Anyway, wasn't it Christie's fault that Romney lost the election, the way he made Obama look like a hero after Superstorm Sandy? He's their frontrunner now???
 
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