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(Politico)   Carville on Obama's sinking in the polls: "I think the best thing he can do is take a toke on the mayor of Toronto's crack pipe, because his numbers are about 48"   (politico.com) divider line 50
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2013-11-12 09:29:15 PM
Gotta love James Carville, And a loyal Saints fan to boot.
 
2013-11-12 09:59:38 PM
Carville's a Clinton guy.
 
2013-11-12 11:16:53 PM
If Americans wanted a fat fugly crack-headed angry white dog turd as President they would have elected Rush Limbaugh years ago.
 
2013-11-12 11:17:29 PM
Love that James Carville. He's as evil as a little girl.
 
2013-11-12 11:49:48 PM
Harry Truman also had low poll numbers, and Congress's approval ratings are currently 9%.  20 years from now, no one will even know what a web site is, much less that we had trouble with one.  I suspect history will look kindly on Obama, faults and all.
 
2013-11-12 11:55:29 PM
I like James Carville, some people are so humorless when it comes to friendly criticism and here it really shows in the other faces in the panel there.

Also I think that is the worst video player I've ever used.
 
2013-11-13 12:15:09 AM
big.assets.huffingtonpost.com

I love Bill Hader's impression of this goofy dude.
 
2013-11-13 12:45:13 AM
Looks like Carville's done handing out free advice. Probably going to start working for the Clintons again, if he isn't already.
 
2013-11-13 01:43:06 AM
I'm enjoying all the Republicans in Congress act like they give a shiat for peoples' inconveniences with a website and their junk insurance.  If you tilt your head just right and squint a little, they almost appear to exhibit some of the indications of empathy.
 
2013-11-13 01:55:37 AM
Obama has a great opportunity here that he probably won't take. He should tell the GOP: "yeah, the ACA  was a bad idea. I'll let you guys repeal it IF you remove the age restrictions on Medicare and let everyone sign up for it."

/GOP won't go for it anyway so the ACA stays.
 
2013-11-13 02:38:13 AM
Advocating drug use? That isn't going to make me want to buy an ice cream cake from you, sir.
 
2013-11-13 02:44:56 AM

themindiswatching: Obama has a great opportunity here that he probably won't take. He should tell the GOP: "yeah, the ACA  was a bad idea. I'll let you guys repeal it IF you remove the age restrictions on Medicare and let everyone sign up for it."

/GOP won't go for it anyway so the ACA stays.


Considering he needed a majority of all three branches of government to pass ACA, he doesn't have any opportunity.  He's stuck with this.
 
2013-11-13 03:59:18 AM
Teabaggers already call him a coke head so why the fark not?
 
2013-11-13 05:26:24 AM
"Obama's problem, I think, is he's a man in politics that doesn't like politics,"  BULLSH*T.

Truly history's greatest monster.
 
2013-11-13 05:41:27 AM

GreenAdder: Advocating drug use? That isn't going to make me want to buy an ice cream cake from you, sir.


Tiny fist shaken.
 
2013-11-13 05:51:14 AM
A Rob Ford joke from noted talking skull James Carville?

Never been prouder to be a Canadian than at this very moment.

*wipes small tear of joy from face*
 
2013-11-13 06:06:14 AM
On an ACA related note....

I attempted in October to compare insurance plans on healthcare.gov and the site did just hang and I couldn't do it.

Saw a sidebar article on google news last night with the headline of something like "if you tried and failed, try again", so I did.

No issues whatsoever and I was able to find a platinum plan that covers 90% of expenses for $346 per month.  Now imagine you don't want a platinum plan, but a bronze plan, the prices for those are less than 1/2 of the platinum plan.

If you are single and make less than 46,000 per year, you are eligible for subsidies.  My yearly total of premiums was reduced by $839 of subsidies.

Go to the site, do some comparisons, and see for yourself.

In 2009, I was paying $600 a month for the same type of plan (had to cancel it in 2010 because I just couldn't afford it any longer), so I can only imagine what it would cost me now (inflation, premium hikes, etc.) without the ACA in place.
 
2013-11-13 06:23:18 AM

suebhoney: On an ACA related note....

I attempted in October to compare insurance plans on healthcare.gov and the site did just hang and I couldn't do it.

Saw a sidebar article on google news last night with the headline of something like "if you tried and failed, try again", so I did.

No issues whatsoever and I was able to find a platinum plan that covers 90% of expenses for $346 per month.  Now imagine you don't want a platinum plan, but a bronze plan, the prices for those are less than 1/2 of the platinum plan.

If you are single and make less than 46,000 per year, you are eligible for subsidies.  My yearly total of premiums was reduced by $839 of subsidies.

Go to the site, do some comparisons, and see for yourself.

In 2009, I was paying $600 a month for the same type of plan (had to cancel it in 2010 because I just couldn't afford it any longer), so I can only imagine what it would cost me now (inflation, premium hikes, etc.) without the ACA in place.


I'm 26, with 1 kid. The COBRA rate from my old job's health insurance is $1,968 a month (I was paying about $650 before I got fired). The Kaiser Foundation's website said I should be able to find a silver plan for $73 a month. I'm waiting on tech support to unfark my account, but when they do I'm gonna jump on that shiat.
 
2013-11-13 06:35:05 AM

Rhino_man: suebhoney: On an ACA related note....

I attempted in October to compare insurance plans on healthcare.gov and the site did just hang and I couldn't do it.

Saw a sidebar article on google news last night with the headline of something like "if you tried and failed, try again", so I did.

No issues whatsoever and I was able to find a platinum plan that covers 90% of expenses for $346 per month.  Now imagine you don't want a platinum plan, but a bronze plan, the prices for those are less than 1/2 of the platinum plan.

If you are single and make less than 46,000 per year, you are eligible for subsidies.  My yearly total of premiums was reduced by $839 of subsidies.

Go to the site, do some comparisons, and see for yourself.

In 2009, I was paying $600 a month for the same type of plan (had to cancel it in 2010 because I just couldn't afford it any longer), so I can only imagine what it would cost me now (inflation, premium hikes, etc.) without the ACA in place.

I'm 26, with 1 kid. The COBRA rate from my old job's health insurance is $1,968 a month (I was paying about $650 before I got fired). The Kaiser Foundation's website said I should be able to find a silver plan for $73 a month. I'm waiting on tech support to unfark my account, but when they do I'm gonna jump on that shiat.


With all the bullshiat floating around and even the issues with the website, people should know that even without single-payer, rates are lower.

All those insurance companies dropping people are dropping plans that do not meet the requirements of the ACA.  Those companies at the very least should have sent notices to anyone in danger of a policy going the way of the dodo, and presented with the alternative plan.  It's a rather unfortunate oversight on the part of the ACA imo, that a requirement as such wasn't included in the law :(
 
2013-11-13 06:39:00 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Carville's a Clinton guy.


Which is why his comment came out on Monday before Willy's comment came out yesterday.
 
2013-11-13 06:46:41 AM
I don't know about that. Congress seems to smoke a lot of crack, and their approval ratings are pretty bad.
 
2013-11-13 06:52:03 AM

suebhoney: Those companies at the very least should have sent notices to anyone in danger of a policy going the way of the dodo, and presented with the alternative plan.


They've all been doing that.  There was a thread a few days ago where Farkers were outraged that they didn't send letters telling people to go shop around at their competitors instead.
 
2013-11-13 07:02:45 AM

Mentat: Harry Truman also had low poll numbers, and Congress's approval ratings are currently 9%.  20 years from now, no one will even know what a web site is, much less that we had trouble with one.  I suspect history will look kindly on Obama, faults and all.




You know, this is what the Republicans say about W. It doesn't sound any less absurd coming from our side. Let's wait and see how history unfolds.
 
2013-11-13 07:03:52 AM

suebhoney: With all the bullshiat floating around and even the issues with the website, people should know that even without single-payer, rates are lower.

All those insurance companies dropping people are dropping plans that do not meet the requirements of the ACA. Those companies at the very least should have sent notices to anyone in danger of a policy going the way of the dodo, and presented with the alternative plan. It's a rather unfortunate oversight on the part of the ACA imo, that a requirement as such wasn't included in the law :(


Actually, all those insurance companies are automatically moving people across to far more expensive plans, even when there are cheaper plans through the exchange, in the hope that people simply shrug their shoulders and blame Obama without actually checking out the exchanges. It is a deliberate attempt to trick people into paying them more money.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/04/insurance-companies-obamaca re _n_4212552.html
 
2013-11-13 07:05:30 AM
I had annual enrollment at work, a week ago.  The employer had their own web site, and there were 3 plans offered at each of the 4 levels.  Not hard at all.  I'm just waiting on new insurance cards now.

I don't think the prices are much different than before, but since they can't just refuse me, like before, it doesn't feel like pouring money down a hole anymore.
 
2013-11-13 07:11:04 AM

Heel It Down The Drain: Mentat: Harry Truman also had low poll numbers, and Congress's approval ratings are currently 9%.  20 years from now, no one will even know what a web site is, much less that we had trouble with one.  I suspect history will look kindly on Obama, faults and all.

You know, this is what the Republicans say about W. It doesn't sound any less absurd coming from our side. Let's wait and see how history unfolds.


Not that absurd.  They can look at what each of them actually did.
 
2013-11-13 07:36:25 AM
Does anyone think that Obama cares about approval ratings?

It's not like he's able to serve another term as president.
 
2013-11-13 07:39:22 AM
Wow, Carville ripping on somebody who's not a Clinton? I haven't seen that a hundred times before.
 
2013-11-13 07:41:47 AM

fluffy2097: Does anyone think that Obama cares about approval ratings?

It's not like he's able to serve another term as president.


Not only that, but Congress' approval rating is 9%. So in comparison Obama's numbers look pretty awesome.
 
2013-11-13 07:42:28 AM

Notabunny: fluffy2097: Does anyone think that Obama cares about approval ratings?

It's not like he's able to serve another term as president.

Not only that, but Congress' approval rating is 9%. So in comparison Obama's numbers look pretty awesome.


Yeah, he's pretty much the only one polling above malaria.
 
2013-11-13 08:18:19 AM
Great idea.

img.fark.net
 
2013-11-13 08:36:21 AM
Southern guy suggests black President smoke crack. Awkward
 
2013-11-13 08:47:05 AM
I don't even get the comment.  A joke?  An insult?
 
2013-11-13 08:50:37 AM

suebhoney: On an ACA related note....

I attempted in October to compare insurance plans on healthcare.gov and the site did just hang and I couldn't do it.

Saw a sidebar article on google news last night with the headline of something like "if you tried and failed, try again", so I did.

No issues whatsoever and I was able to find a platinum plan that covers 90% of expenses for $346 per month.  Now imagine you don't want a platinum plan, but a bronze plan, the prices for those are less than 1/2 of the platinum plan.

If you are single and make less than 46,000 per year, you are eligible for subsidies.  My yearly total of premiums was reduced by $839 of subsidies.

Go to the site, do some comparisons, and see for yourself.

In 2009, I was paying $600 a month for the same type of plan (had to cancel it in 2010 because I just couldn't afford it any longer), so I can only imagine what it would cost me now (inflation, premium hikes, etc.) without the ACA in place.


If you have a chance to, post your success story

http://acasuccessstories.tumblr.com/

 
2013-11-13 08:58:02 AM
So, let's reiterate a President with a grid locked congress that has one party who hates him with a fiery burning passion has poll numbers in the fifth almost sixth year of his presidency that score him a 48. Somehow I'm not seeing those numbers as bad, but as unbelievably good.

This is a president who has had five years of conservative media and at times congress critters yelling he is lying. He has handled foreign crises, a massive rollout of health insurance reform, and the Republican party attempting to kill the economy with a cool collected intelligence and wisdom.

If this is failure then we need to repeal the 22nd amendment and give this guy a third term.
 
2013-11-13 08:59:55 AM

Alphax: I don't even get the comment.  A joke?  An insult?


A joke about the crack smoking, alcoholic mayor of Toronto having better numbers. Sounds stolen from Leno
 
2013-11-13 09:02:08 AM
I don't think it's Obama's crack pipe that is causing his problems. It's the crack.
 
2013-11-13 09:25:21 AM
Look, Jimmy C is a hoot. He looks nuts, he IS nuts. I like that about him, plus he marries ugly women. I really wished obama was addicted to crack, hell, I'd pay $10 just to watch him smoke crack during a press conference.

/a phony American, since 1950. The quality goes in before the name goes on.
 
2013-11-13 10:27:22 AM
 
2013-11-13 11:09:42 AM

Heel It Down The Drain: Mentat: Harry Truman also had low poll numbers, and Congress's approval ratings are currently 9%.  20 years from now, no one will even know what a web site is, much less that we had trouble with one.  I suspect history will look kindly on Obama, faults and all.

You know, this is what the Republicans say about W. It doesn't sound any less absurd coming from our side. Let's wait and see how history unfolds.


W turned a surplus into a doubling of the debt.  His people sat around with their thumbs up their asses while New Orleans drowned.  He presided over two failed wars, one a preemptive war of aggression designed to turn Iraq into an American vassal state.  And to top it all off, he presided over the worst economic collapse since the Great Depression.

So tell me, what has Obama done that's comparable?
 
2013-11-13 11:29:00 AM
The only reason "New Orleans drowned", was because the people were too stupid to leave when they had sufficient warning to do so. The idiot mayor didn't help matters either.
 
2013-11-13 11:38:04 AM
Keep trying to hammer Obama's numbers down while propping up Christie, media. No matter how bad O's numbers are, he's STILL far far better than the horror of a McCain/Palin or Romney/Ryan administration.
 
2013-11-13 11:42:19 AM

Mentat: Heel It Down The Drain: Mentat: Harry Truman also had low poll numbers, and Congress's approval ratings are currently 9%.  20 years from now, no one will even know what a web site is, much less that we had trouble with one.  I suspect history will look kindly on Obama, faults and all.

You know, this is what the Republicans say about W. It doesn't sound any less absurd coming from our side. Let's wait and see how history unfolds.

W turned a surplus into a doubling of the debt.  His people sat around with their thumbs up their asses while New Orleans drowned.  He presided over two failed wars, one a preemptive war of aggression designed to turn Iraq into an American vassal state.  And to top it all off, he presided over the worst economic collapse since the Great Depression.

So tell me, what has Obama done that's comparable?


Sochiolisms, Agenda 21, and the homoghey agenda.

/not serious
 
2013-11-13 11:45:10 AM

Pick: The only reason "New Orleans drowned", was because the people were too stupid to leave when they had sufficient warning to do so.


And how can they all leave when they had no cars, and any means of public transportation was kept in their parking lots to get flooded?

At best, they were herded into a giant concrete tomb with no food or water, and left to literally die & rot there.

(I'd post the pic of the dead man in the wheelchair left outside the SuperDome, but a Fark mod might get butthurt)

And, guess what happened to those people who DID try to leave.

media.nola.com


The sh*t that went down in NOLA during Katrina wasn't mere class warfare. It was Class Genocide.
 
2013-11-13 12:25:00 PM
In the polls that matter, elections, Obama's doing just fine.
 
2013-11-13 12:28:06 PM
Meanwhile, in today's ongoing Toronto city council meeting, Rob Ford admitted to buying (not just smoking) drugs, couldn't remember for sure if he's ever assaulted any of his staff (but doesn't think he did and insisted it's the media's fault if people took the word of the staffer he allegedly assaulted), and insisted he's a "positive role model for down and out youth". Then his brother, who is also on council, got up and yelled at everyone in the room. Another councilor posited that since transit has continued running and garbage collection hasn't been interrupted, the behavior of the mayor is an irrelevant distraction.

The CNN reporter on the scene lamented the entire meeting is an "inappropriate" exercise in "public humiliation". Liberal media, my ass.
 
2013-11-13 12:39:28 PM

Rhino_man: suebhoney: On an ACA related note....

I attempted in October to compare insurance plans on healthcare.gov and the site did just hang and I couldn't do it.

Saw a sidebar article on google news last night with the headline of something like "if you tried and failed, try again", so I did.

No issues whatsoever and I was able to find a platinum plan that covers 90% of expenses for $346 per month.  Now imagine you don't want a platinum plan, but a bronze plan, the prices for those are less than 1/2 of the platinum plan.

If you are single and make less than 46,000 per year, you are eligible for subsidies.  My yearly total of premiums was reduced by $839 of subsidies.

Go to the site, do some comparisons, and see for yourself.

In 2009, I was paying $600 a month for the same type of plan (had to cancel it in 2010 because I just couldn't afford it any longer), so I can only imagine what it would cost me now (inflation, premium hikes, etc.) without the ACA in place.

I'm 26, with 1 kid. The COBRA rate from my old job's health insurance is $1,968 a month (I was paying about $650 before I got fired). The Kaiser Foundation's website said I should be able to find a silver plan for $73 a month. I'm waiting on tech support to unfark my account, but when they do I'm gonna jump on that shiat.


Yeah, I was waiting on tech support to unfark my account. I found out yesterday that this will not happen. Your best bet is to create a new account. Just change you user name (I just added an extra number). Keep the same email, password, security questions, and so on. It will work.
 
2013-11-13 01:37:33 PM
The biggest stains on Obama's record will be the drone wars and the NSA scandal.  It's going to hard to pin all of that on Obama though, since the programs were started under Bush with support from Congressional Democrats and will be continued under the next President.  That's not to minimize Obama's role, but there's enough blame to go around that history won't be able to make him the scapegoat.
 
2013-11-13 02:27:17 PM
apoptotic:

The CNN reporter on the scene lamented the entire meeting is an "inappropriate" exercise in "public humiliation". Liberal media, my ass.

But why in the hell are they spinning in Ford's favour? Are they content that at least they don't have to live in the city this guy runs while feeling sorry for what an ass he's made out of himself?
 
2013-11-13 04:10:23 PM

thoughtless: apoptotic:

The CNN reporter on the scene lamented the entire meeting is an "inappropriate" exercise in "public humiliation". Liberal media, my ass.

But why in the hell are they spinning in Ford's favour? Are they content that at least they don't have to live in the city this guy runs while feeling sorry for what an ass he's made out of himself?


Ford and his ilk (Harper, Kenney, etc) are the Canadian secular incarnation of the Tea Party, and CNN is trying to cut into Fox News (and Sun News, aka Fox News North) market share.
 
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