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(NBC News)   Retailers to workers: Sorry we trashed your Thanksgiving so the CEO can buy a 4th yacht, but to make it up to you, we'll let you wear jeans, cater in some turkey, and give you an extra 5% store discount. So, we cool now, right?   (nbcnews.com) divider line 433
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2013-11-12 06:53:12 PM  
Oh, well, then I guess this makes everything ok now.....NOT

/greedy farks
 
2013-11-12 06:57:38 PM  
If execs can't get fat bonuses, the baby jesus will cry.
 
2013-11-12 07:07:11 PM  
and will provide a traditional Thanksgiving meal during each of its three shifts.

What's that? Kraft Cheese & Macaroni and some purple stuff?
 
2013-11-12 07:11:15 PM  
How about you pay triple time for working on a holiday.
 
2013-11-12 07:15:06 PM  

ManateeGag: How about you pay triple time for working on a holiday.


What do you think this is? Советская Россия?
 
2013-11-12 07:17:39 PM  

ManateeGag: How about you pay triple time for working on a holiday.


How can you ask these people to suffer any more than they already have?!

i44.tinypic.com

i40.tinypic.com

How dare you, sir!
 
2013-11-12 07:34:39 PM  
Who goes shopping on Thanksgiving? Movies perhaps but shopping -never.
 
2013-11-12 07:56:39 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Who goes shopping on Thanksgiving? Movies perhaps but shopping -never.


I'm guessing you've never driven past one of the big stores on the eve of Black Friday? People camp out for hours (sometimes days) just waiting for the doors to open. The stores are doing nothing except letting them in earlier.

www.bloomberg.com

www.gobankingrates.com

wp.streetwise.co

Corporations didn't cause this. Consumers did.

/I refuse to leave the house on Black Friday unless it's for something I can get at a gas station
 
2013-11-12 08:22:16 PM  
Seems like the bonus money and perks are worth it to the people volunteering to work those days. Is this another case of outrage by people who don't have to work in retail?
 
2013-11-12 08:32:51 PM  
Just means the consumers will miss out on their Thanksgiving waiting in line for the stores to open.  They deserve to miss their holiday.
 
2013-11-12 08:43:37 PM  

ArkAngel: Seems like the bonus money and perks are worth it to the people volunteering to work those days. Is this another case of outrage by people who don't have to work in retail?


Retail workers mostly hate it.  Sure, it's time-and-a-half if your company offers it (which some don't - it's not federally-mandated and while some states might, most don't), and you get catered food (subs or pizza or stuff, often), but you know what's better than making $10.80 an hour and getting to scarf fast food off paper plates on your 30 minute break?

Having a proper thanksgiving meal with your farking family.
 
2013-11-12 08:50:58 PM  

ManateeGag: How about you pay triple time for working on a holiday.


When I worked at eckerds in high school, they paid double time if you worked christmas or thanksgiving day. They also closed every store except one in each city so people had access to necessary medicine, but the store was staffed with volunteers from all the area stores who didn't mind working for the extra money.
 
2013-11-12 08:57:31 PM  

labman: They also closed every store except one in each city so people had access to necessary medicine, but the store was staffed with volunteers from all the area stores who didn't mind working for the extra money.


CVS threatened to kill a family member or take a first born child.
 
2013-11-12 09:05:05 PM  

NewportBarGuy: labman: They also closed every store except one in each city so people had access to necessary medicine, but the store was staffed with volunteers from all the area stores who didn't mind working for the extra money.

CVS threatened to kill a family member or take a first born child.


It's in your contract when you work for Disney.
 
2013-11-12 09:12:34 PM  
I used to be a TV reporter. I worked every holiday -- usually doing stories about people who had to work on the holiday.

My girlfriend at the time was an ER nurse. Occasionally we'd cross paths when I'd do a delightful holiday story about a family turned into Raspberry Preserves when after going Over the River but before going Through the Woods they got obliterated by a speeding semi. Hard to go a-wassailing after the 11 those nights.

I guess what I'm saying is: as much as it sucks that these stores are going to be open to pander to the tragically stupid slavering to get a Broksonic 280f Medium-Definition 38-centimeter circular TV for $19.99, there are a lot of people who work on holidays.

Hopefully nobody shops and next year the corporate offices will say "we paid *how* much in staffing and bad PR and earned *how* little?"
 
2013-11-12 09:13:15 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Because People in power are Stupid: Who goes shopping on Thanksgiving? Movies perhaps but shopping -never.

I'm guessing you've never driven past one of the big stores on the eve of Black Friday? People camp out for hours (sometimes days) just waiting for the doors to open. The stores are doing nothing except letting them in earlier.

[www.bloomberg.com image 640x480]

[www.gobankingrates.com image 300x225]

[wp.streetwise.co image 425x329]

Corporations didn't cause this. Consumers did.

/I refuse to leave the house on Black Friday unless it's for something I can get at a gas station


This.... the biggest thing that will stop this is empty stores on Thanksgiving night.

Since that isn't happening... here you go.
 
2013-11-12 09:14:47 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Hopefully nobody shops and next year the corporate offices will say "we paid *how* much in staffing and bad PR and earned *how* little?"


You know as well as I how unlikely that is to happen. Unfortunately...
 
2013-11-12 09:14:51 PM  

DemonEater: ArkAngel: Seems like the bonus money and perks are worth it to the people volunteering to work those days. Is this another case of outrage by people who don't have to work in retail?

Retail workers mostly hate it.  Sure, it's time-and-a-half if your company offers it (which some don't - it's not federally-mandated and while some states might, most don't), and you get catered food (subs or pizza or stuff, often), but you know what's better than making $10.80 an hour and getting to scarf fast food off paper plates on your 30 minute break?

Having a proper thanksgiving meal with your farking family.


And you know that all of them would be able to have a "proper thanksgiving meal" if they were off? Some don't have family they can be with, others wouldn't be able to afford it, etc. A lot of people don't actually mind working on holidays.

You're seem pretty upset about this when it seems like most of the actual employees are ok with it. They want extra money for the holiday season, and that's a viable way to get it.

Believe me, I wish we could all live in a Norman Rockwell painting with grandma serving a 20lb turkey while the entire family drooled around it. But that's not reality.
 
2013-11-12 09:17:47 PM  
People actually go shopping on Thanksgiving?

On Thanksgiving, after eating my fill of turkey, stuffing and pie, I watch football while trying not to succumb to a tryptophan-induced coma.

Fighting crowds is the last thing I want to do.
 
2013-11-12 09:47:18 PM  
I have worked 8 of the last 9 Christmases. I don't have kids and me working means someone who does have kids can stay home. But I never work thanksgiving. Thanksgiving is my Christmas.
 
2013-11-12 10:05:47 PM  
Oh, and we're also going to reduce your hours for the rest of the week so that we won't have to pay you overtime.  Happy Thanksgiving!
 
2013-11-12 10:14:07 PM  
Don't work retail but a lot of the people I work with have young kids at home or other family obligations so they usually want some time off during the holidays. I don't have any of that so I don't mind them getting the prime time off while I work. Like scottydoesntknow was saying, we can't all live that Rockwell painting.
 
2013-11-12 10:31:29 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Because People in power are Stupid: Who goes shopping on Thanksgiving? Movies perhaps but shopping -never.

I'm guessing you've never driven past one of the big stores on the eve of Black Friday? People camp out for hours (sometimes days) just waiting for the doors to open. The stores are doing nothing except letting them in earlier.

[www.bloomberg.com image 640x480]

[www.gobankingrates.com image 300x225]

[wp.streetwise.co image 425x329]

Corporations didn't cause this. Consumers did.

/I refuse to leave the house on Black Friday unless it's for something I can get at a gas station


I guess to rephrase: I don't shop on Thanksgiving. It is my opinion that anyone who does is an asshole.
 
2013-11-12 10:38:38 PM  

NewportBarGuy: What's that? Kraft Cheese & Macaroni and some purple stuff?


Cheese and Macaroni? They should be so lucky. It's Macaroni and Cheese, because imitation cheese is more expensive than imitation pasta.

/by cutting down on the imitation cheese product used, the CEO was able to add a four jacuzzi to his fourth yacht, and put the option in on the fifth yacht.
 
2013-11-12 10:38:48 PM  

scottydoesntknow: I'm guessing you've never driven past one of the big stores on the eve of Black Friday? People camp out for hours (sometimes days) just waiting for the doors to open.


Because standing in a parking lot for 4 hours to save 5 dollars is more appealing than working for 4 hours to make 20+ dollars.
 
2013-11-12 10:40:18 PM  

ArkAngel: Seems like the bonus money and perks are worth it to the people volunteering to work those days. Is this another case of outrage by people who don't have to work in retail?


you know how I know you don't work for a big box retailer?
 
2013-11-12 10:40:28 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Because People in power are Stupid: Who goes shopping on Thanksgiving? Movies perhaps but shopping -never.

I'm guessing you've never driven past one of the big stores on the eve of Black Friday? People camp out for hours (sometimes days) just waiting for the doors to open. The stores are doing nothing except letting them in earlier.

[www.bloomberg.com image 640x480]

[www.gobankingrates.com image 300x225]

[wp.streetwise.co image 425x329]

Corporations didn't cause this. Consumers did.

/I refuse to leave the house on Black Friday unless it's for something I can get at a gas station


Damn straight.  But I'll still get mad about it.  Those pics make me soooo pissed at American consumers.  GET A NEW HOLIDAY TRADITION, YOUR CURRENT ONE SUCKS.
 
2013-11-12 10:41:02 PM  
professionalpayrollservice.co.uk

"What's the problem?  Are we out of cake?"
 
2013-11-12 10:41:09 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Oh, well, then I guess this makes everything ok now.....NOT

/greedy farks



What about all the customers who come in and buy stuff? If they didn't buy stuff the retailers wouldn't open....
 
2013-11-12 10:41:45 PM  
My company is doing it as right as one can - open at 8 PM on Thanksgiving Day, but only for 3 hours, then a normal day the next. But then again, we're not an insane Black Friday spot.
 
2013-11-12 10:41:51 PM  

scottydoesntknow: I'm guessing you've never driven past one of the big stores on the eve of Black Friday? People camp out for hours (sometimes days) just waiting for the doors to open. The stores are doing nothing except letting them in earlier.

Corporations didn't cause this. Consumers did.


In fairness, it's damned exciting shopping on Black Friday. All the pricetags are shiny new, including the ones claiming to be the "original price".

/of course, the new "low" price is higher than last week's "original" price, but the money for all those new pricetags has to come from somewhere
//and they do usually have one product somewhere in the store that's truly on discount. But then, it's that thing which they've been trying to offload for months, and not even the stocktakers are quite sure what it actually is, any more
 
2013-11-12 10:41:56 PM  

DemonEater: ArkAngel: Seems like the bonus money and perks are worth it to the people volunteering to work those days. Is this another case of outrage by people who don't have to work in retail?

Retail workers mostly hate it.  Sure, it's time-and-a-half if your company offers it (which some don't - it's not federally-mandated and while some states might, most don't), and you get catered food (subs or pizza or stuff, often), but you know what's better than making $10.80 an hour and getting to scarf fast food off paper plates on your 30 minute break?

Having a proper thanksgiving meal with your farking family.


You've never met my or my wife's families.

/Spends T-day alone enjoying an MST3K marathon.
 
2013-11-12 10:42:13 PM  
If you are able to move about under your own power or even fit into the car by Thanksgiving afternoon then you werent really celebrating it properly anyways.


I am half tempted to get a shiat job at Best Buy just so I can get a shift on Thanksgiving and not even show up that week.  I think we should all get shiat jobs and not show up for them.  Would be a nice statement for merica.
 
2013-11-12 10:42:45 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: guess to rephrase: I don't shop on Thanksgiving. It is my opinion that anyone who does is an asshole.


Hah, and we can definitely agree on that.
 
2013-11-12 10:43:46 PM  

DemonEater: ArkAngel: Seems like the bonus money and perks are worth it to the people volunteering to work those days. Is this another case of outrage by people who don't have to work in retail?

Retail workers mostly hate it.  Sure, it's time-and-a-half if your company offers it (which some don't - it's not federally-mandated and while some states might, most don't), and you get catered food (subs or pizza or stuff, often), but you know what's better than making $10.80 an hour and getting to scarf fast food off paper plates on your 30 minute break?

Having a proper thanksgiving meal with your farking family.



Then why do so many shoppers give up their traditional Thanksgiving to go shopping in a big box store?
 
2013-11-12 10:45:47 PM  
Michaels will be open from 4pm to 2am on Thanksgiving Day.  The staff is "voluntary," but if they don't get enough volunteers, they just tell you you're working and suck it.
 
2013-11-12 10:46:52 PM  
 
2013-11-12 10:47:12 PM  
I worked in retail for 18 years and I vow to never do it again.. It's the worst experience in humanity you could ever have...

The most surreal experience was being in a Circuit City at 5am when they opened the doors. The wall of people with that look primal instinct hunting down their prey is frightening.

To some up a job in retail

Social life = shiat
Family life = shiat
Home life = shiat
Holidays = shiat
Birthsdays = shiat
The rare time you do get = shiat
You sanity = shiat
 
2013-11-12 10:49:51 PM  
I would like to see the working retail peons and store management organize a strike nation wide for this shiat. Maybe I need to start an organization.

/Main problem is I'm not very organized.
//Workers unite.
farm1.staticflickr.com
 
2013-11-12 10:52:30 PM  
You know what?  No one is forcing you to work retail....
Oh wait, you mean when you were younger, you partied too much, got pregnant at 13,14,15,16,
never finished high school or otherwise were too lazy to get an education?
Well...sucks to be you if retail sales clerk/flunkie is all you are qualified to do.
Have fun working on Thanksgiving, while those of us who did not screw around while in school,
being popular, having parties all the time, getting pregnant or whatever, sit around the home,
RELAXING, spending time with our families.
 
2013-11-12 10:53:33 PM  
I go shopping with the in-laws on Black Friday mainly because it's one of the few things we can all do together where we don't end up at each other's throats.  The chaos and pace is too bus to argue about politics, or whatever the hell they typically go on about.  It basically kills the entire day and at the end of it I'm one day closer to returning home from BFE and I've typically bought enough casual clothes to last me for work until the next Black Friday.
 
2013-11-12 10:54:12 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: I used to be a TV reporter. I worked every holiday -- usually doing stories about people who had to work on the holiday.

My girlfriend at the time was an ER nurse. Occasionally we'd cross paths when I'd do a delightful holiday story about a family turned into Raspberry Preserves when after going Over the River but before going Through the Woods they got obliterated by a speeding semi. Hard to go a-wassailing after the 11 those nights.

I guess what I'm saying is: as much as it sucks that these stores are going to be open to pander to the tragically stupid slavering to get a Broksonic 280f Medium-Definition 38-centimeter circular TV for $19.99, there are a lot of people who work on holidays.

Hopefully nobody shops and next year the corporate offices will say "we paid *how* much in staffing and bad PR and earned *how* little?"


The margin erosion is pretty disgusting on BF sales.

/will be working thanksgiving at lovely retailer
//lovely retailer pays me about 26-30k a year
///not bad for a full-time college student
 
2013-11-12 10:54:35 PM  

Flint Ironstag: DemonEater: ArkAngel: Seems like the bonus money and perks are worth it to the people volunteering to work those days. Is this another case of outrage by people who don't have to work in retail?

Retail workers mostly hate it.  Sure, it's time-and-a-half if your company offers it (which some don't - it's not federally-mandated and while some states might, most don't), and you get catered food (subs or pizza or stuff, often), but you know what's better than making $10.80 an hour and getting to scarf fast food off paper plates on your 30 minute break?

Having a proper thanksgiving meal with your farking family.


Then why do so many shoppers give up their traditional Thanksgiving to go shopping in a big box store?


This.  I don't understand why people assume that everyone has a big party at Thanksgiving where they need to do nothing but hang out with their family all day?

I like my family, and a typical Thanksgiving is a pretty casual affair where I go over to my Dad's house to eat an early dinner.  Everything is over by 7 or 8 PM.  I would jump at a chance to take a late shift at overtime pay.

/to address the guy you quoted...
//You know what's better than spending time with your farking family that you farking hate?
///Making some extra cash for the holidays, free subs/pizza, and having spending itme with your farking family that you farking hate
////Bonus points when the farking family that you farking hate show up to take advantage of your extra 5% discount
 
2013-11-12 10:54:54 PM  

saintstryfe: My company is doing it as right as one can - open at 8 PM on Thanksgiving Day, but only for 3 hours, then a normal day the next. But then again, we're not an insane Black Friday spot.


That's still crazy going in on Thanksgiving night. I remember working retail and having to show up on New Years day. I was still druck I hadn't letp I don't want to admit some of the things I had taken and was still taking to stay awake and we had 2 whole custermers that were also drunk while I was there. I got to go home and crash before long.
 
2013-11-12 10:55:01 PM  
So pay the employees less and give them "incentives" to work on a day they shouldn't have to so they can put more food on the plate?

/sounds legit
 
2013-11-12 10:55:31 PM  
Would most of the people willing to work Thanksgiving be the same ones who are continuously underpaid and denied the option to be full time workers?

I did retail and service work. In 2012, after a year and two promotions, I made $11,400 after taxes. I would have jumped at the chance to work more hours, but I was capped at 27.99 because healthcare for non-managers is evil. The months of October through January were always the best for me because I got the maximum allowable hours every week (even though I was contractually prohibited from taking vacation in that time period - not an unreasonable request for retail work). They're not doing it for a love of the season, they're doing it for extra money because you CAN'T live long term on $8.25 an hour.

I refuse to support it and plan on spending the 24th of December stealing all the toys in Whoville.
 
2013-11-12 10:55:46 PM  

TheHopeDiamond: Michaels will be open from 4pm to 2am on Thanksgiving Day.  The staff is "voluntary," but if they don't get enough volunteers, they just tell you you're working and suck it.


Memories.. "Yeah, we're cutting your shifts for the rest of this week so we can make payroll"
 
2013-11-12 10:55:59 PM  
Yeah, retailers wouldn't be open if the consumers weren't there to make it worth it. So fark all y'all, don't go shopping on Thanksgiving...oh right, you're being forced to because that's when the sales are.

/works retail
//corporate HQ
///will be sleeping in on black friday
 
2013-11-12 10:56:28 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Who goes shopping on Thanksgiving? Movies perhaps but shopping -never.


I HAVE TO GO SHOPPING THERE MIGHT BE A DEAL THERE ARE BIG SALES LOOK AT ALL THOSE LINES THEY HAVE SALES AND DEALS I MUST DO MY SHOPPING NOW NOW NOW!!!!!
 
2013-11-12 10:56:42 PM  
There's nothing more sacred than the $.
 
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