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2013-11-13 11:09:19 AM

The Voice of Doom: I wouldn't really call it "academies".


That's what Wikipedia calls it.

Bayern Munich Junior Team is the youth academy for German football club Bayern Munich.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayern_Munich_Junior_Team

Pro teams in the USA almost always have absolutely no connection to the training of primary and secondary school age kids.
 
2013-11-13 11:13:22 AM

Khryswhy: tetsoushima: ecmoRandomNumbers: flucto: Interesting. Even moving back to the US after a couple of years triggers some of these observations. Wait, I can buy milk, on Sunday, at 9pm, in 200 places? In gallons? For $3??? And the cashier is nice? And wishes me a blessed day? WHATTHEIDONTEVEN

I was gone for two years. When I came back, I couldn't believe people could drink 32 oz. of soda. And OMG! 44 oz! Then I saw somebody carrying around a literal plastic bucket from AM/PM (with an actual handle to carry it.) In Chile, we'd buy a 1-liter bottle of Coca-Cola as a treat to go with dinner, which was for everybody -- small glass, no ice.

It doesn't shock me any more as much as make me facepalm.

They just started selling 8 oz cans of Dr. Pepper in 6-packs now.  I'll drink maybe a can every two weeks or so when the mood hits me (I'm on a medication that makes soda taste really weird 99% of the time).  I wish they would do the same thing with ginger beer.

8oz cans (on page two) and it's better than ginger beer.

http://www.thevernorsstore.com/Products/tabid/62/pg/2/pgsize/9/cid/1 7/ sort/SortOrder-asc/Default.aspx


Aww I thought you were going to tell him the Ultimate American Secret of Ale-8-One, Lord of all Soft Drinks
 
2013-11-13 11:15:33 AM

Mose: And apparently some graphic artists tend to conveniently forget that Alaska and Hawaii are states of the United States.  Oopsy.


Alaska, yeah - that huge island with one oddly flat side that sits just off the west coast?

Aidan: I think a lot of the differences from TFA and here in the thread can be noted as big city vs. not.


Also very much this. It's funny to hear some of the discussion on the US internet about "Japan! Such a strange and mysterious place with all these amazingly weird conveniences and oh, transit! Small stores!" by people who moved to/visited Tokyo who don't realize that if they moved to Manhattan they'd find a lot of the same "new! Fresh!" things, because they're really seeing the urban/suburban differences.

As for customer service, most Japanese visitors to the US find US customer service to be cold and just really haphazard, because there isn't the bright smile and canned polite greetings everywhere.

Which reminds me of another big difference I don't think I've seen yet - police behavior (or authority behavior generally).  US police and officials seem really rude and almost violent.  There's this attitude of "we must dominate the situation always from the get-go and be very pushy" to show authority, whereas in a lot of places the same "I am in charge" is done with just cold but very, VERY polite language (think "your papers PLEASE, SIR").  A while ago I heard a radio program about this comparing the difference just between Canada and the US, and the UK and the US, and they interviewed some people with border patrol (on the US side) who explained that this move towards aggressiveness and "quickly establish dominance" posturing was a very calculated thing being taught now (which people on the inside too apparently have mixed feelings about but that's the new theories).
 
2013-11-13 11:17:08 AM

Coming on a Bicycle: Fissile: When I have relatives from Europe visit, they are almost always astonished by how big everything is.   Most were dumbstruck to find out that New York is a large state and not just Manhattan Island.  Last few times I had fun farking with them.  I'd ask them where they wanted to go (I'm in Jersey).   They'd reply, "New York!".  I'd drive them over to Staten Island.  They'd sit there in the car looking at each other and then sheepishly ask, "Where are we?"   I'd say, "New York.  You said you wanted to go to New York."  They'd work up some courage and say, "But we wanted to go to New York City."   I'd reply, "You are in New York City."   They'd look around and point across the bay, "We want to go over there.", pointing to Manhattan.  I'd say, "Manhattan?  Why didn't you say so?"  They had no idea NYC was made up of 5 boroughs.

Aren't you a clever one!


=================

Serves them right for trying to visit NYC on the cheap.
 
2013-11-13 11:21:27 AM

kombi: Palin2012: God Dammit so much! As a displaced poor Arkansas boy living in China you have no farking idea how awesome America is until you are gone!

Thats just one place that im not in a hurry to go to. I dont really feel like dumping in a hole in the floor


You haven't taken a dump in a hole the floor until you have defiled some dead guy's home's hole in the floor on a mountain. I was hiking around the Laoshan Mountain Range in Shandong and I decided to explore one of the tops of the mountains. The local Chinese cannot traverse a steep wheel chair ramp without assistance so they did not follow me as there was a fair amount of climbing. As I reached the top of the mountain nature calls out to me. I found a staircase with vines growing all over it and I walked into some ruined hovel. There was an ancient hole in the ground complete with ornate lionish dragon character overlooking it. I defiled it and now I am probably haunted.

/CSB
 
2013-11-13 11:31:34 AM

Palin2012: Thats just one place that im not in a hurry to go to. I dont really feel like dumping in a hole in the floor


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A squat toilet is healthier for you than the throne toilets American use.  Using a squat toilet means you are less likely to develop hemorrhoids and incontinence problems later in life.  It's natural for humans to squat when they dump.  Sitting while taking a dump has been around for only a hundred years or so.
 
2013-11-13 11:39:02 AM
I myself prefer squat toilets (no need to touch them!) but do like the modern flushing ones.
 
2013-11-13 11:39:54 AM

Captain James T. Smirk: drumhellar: The[y] couldn't believe that we like Root Beer.

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It's so bubbly and cloying, and happy...

Just like America. But you know what's really frightening? If you drink enough of it, you begin to like it.


www.extremetech.com
 
2013-11-13 11:43:02 AM
My husband's family are from Haiti and they are constantly telling me how "Americans" are wasteful and silly and pretty much suck at life, but they would recite the declaration of independence on the spot if someone came to take them back to Haiti.
 
2013-11-13 11:44:59 AM
No one likes us-I don't know why
We may not be perfect, but heaven knows we try
But all around, even our old friends put us down
Let's drop the big one and see what happens

We give them money-but are they grateful?
No, they're spiteful and they're hateful
They don't respect us-so let's surprise them
We'll drop the big one and pulverize them

Asia's crowded and Europe's too old
Africa is far too hot
And Canada's too cold
And South America stole our name
Let's drop the big one
There'll be no one left to blame us

We'll save Australia
Don't wanna hurt no kangaroo
We'll build an All American amusement park there
They got surfin', too

Boom goes London and boom Pa-ree
More room for you and more room for me
And every city the whole world round
Will just be another American town
Oh, how peaceful it will be
We'll set everybody free
You'll wear a Japanese kimono babe
And there'll be Italian shoes for me

They all hate us anyhow
So let's drop the big one now
Let's drop the big one now

-Randy Newman
 
2013-11-13 11:51:11 AM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: No one likes us-I don't know why
We may not be perfect, but heaven knows we try
But all around, even our old friends put us down
Let's drop the big one and see what happens

We give them money-but are they grateful?
No, they're spiteful and they're hateful
They don't respect us-so let's surprise them
We'll drop the big one and pulverize them

Asia's crowded and Europe's too old
Africa is far too hot
And Canada's too cold
And South America stole our name
Let's drop the big one
There'll be no one left to blame us

We'll save Australia
Don't wanna hurt no kangaroo
We'll build an All American amusement park there
They got surfin', too

Boom goes London and boom Pa-ree
More room for you and more room for me
And every city the whole world round
Will just be another American town
Oh, how peaceful it will be
We'll set everybody free
You'll wear a Japanese kimono babe
And there'll be Italian shoes for me

They all hate us anyhow
So let's drop the big one now
Let's drop the big one now

-Randy Newman


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You forgot the link for the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqBrw3rQvKo
 
2013-11-13 11:53:58 AM

Fissile: Palin2012: Thats just one place that im not in a hurry to go to. I dont really feel like dumping in a hole in the floor

===============

A squat toilet is healthier for you than the throne toilets American use.  Using a squat toilet means you are less likely to develop hemorrhoids and incontinence problems later in life.  It's natural for humans to squat when they dump.  Sitting while taking a dump has been around for only a hundred years or so.


I think that's what communists want you to believe. Every country that uses squatters is or was formerly communist in my experience. China, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Russia, all squatters. Sitting is the most natural way, has a longer and older history, and traditionally shows one is more culturally refined. It is really hard to wipe your ass while squatting. If sitting increases your risk of hemorrhoids, squatting destroys your knees. Try squatting for 10 minutes while you have diarrhoea over a shiatty, slippery, smelly, hole. Then trying to just lean forward enough so that you can wipe you ass while barely missing the festering day old shiat pile beneath you and not touching the door that has been torrentially pissed on. Do you know that most squatters are broken? I shiat you not, no pun intended, 9/10 squatters are broken and full before you get there. Also, squatters are the best solution for the Chinese. Most bathrooms have a lot of fluid on the floor and smell like ammonia. You know why? Because the first Chinese misses the urinal and a little gets on the ground. The next guy stands just past the piss on the ground and long shots it. He misses a little too. The third guy, the forth guy, these people were there at like 6 in the morning. Now there has been 10,000 people and you can imagine how wet the floor is and how strong the smell of ammonia. But I digress, squatters are the best solution for China because at least you dont have to touch your ass to where those 10,000 other people sat and shiat. If your careful  there is just enough room that with shaky legs and careful hands you can shiat effectively. I mean 1 billion Chinese do it everyday so it cant be that hard right?
 
2013-11-13 11:59:05 AM

Palin2012: Fissile: Palin2012: Thats just one place that im not in a hurry to go to. I dont really feel like dumping in a hole in the floor

===============

A squat toilet is healthier for you than the throne toilets American use.  Using a squat toilet means you are less likely to develop hemorrhoids and incontinence problems later in life.  It's natural for humans to squat when they dump.  Sitting while taking a dump has been around for only a hundred years or so.

I think that's what communists want you to believe. Every country that uses squatters is or was formerly communist in my experience. China, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Russia, all squatters. Sitting is the most natural way, has a longer and older history, and traditionally shows one is more culturally refined. It is really hard to wipe your ass while squatting. If sitting increases your risk of hemorrhoids, squatting destroys your knees. Try squatting for 10 minutes while you have diarrhoea over a shiatty, slippery, smelly, hole. Then trying to just lean forward enough so that you can wipe you ass while barely missing the festering day old shiat pile beneath you and not touching the door that has been torrentially pissed on. Do you know that most squatters are broken? I shiat you not, no pun intended, 9/10 squatters are broken and full before you get there. Also, squatters are the best solution for the Chinese. Most bathrooms have a lot of fluid on the floor and smell like ammonia. You know why? Because the first Chinese misses the urinal and a little gets on the ground. The next guy stands just past the piss on the ground and long shots it. He misses a little too. The third guy, the forth guy, these people were there at like 6 in the morning. Now there has been 10,000 people and you can imagine how wet the floor is and how strong the smell of ammonia. But I digress, squatters are the best solution for China because at least you dont have to touch your ass to where those 10,000 other people sat and shiat. If your careful  ...

================

Hmmmm.  I never thought of that before, but now that you've explained it.....yes, it probably is a communist plot for world domination, turning the world brown....and then red.
 
2013-11-13 11:59:48 AM

Fissile: Coming on a Bicycle: Fissile: When I have relatives from Europe visit, they are almost always astonished by how big everything is.   Most were dumbstruck to find out that New York is a large state and not just Manhattan Island.  Last few times I had fun farking with them.  I'd ask them where they wanted to go (I'm in Jersey).   They'd reply, "New York!".  I'd drive them over to Staten Island.  They'd sit there in the car looking at each other and then sheepishly ask, "Where are we?"   I'd say, "New York.  You said you wanted to go to New York."  They'd work up some courage and say, "But we wanted to go to New York City."   I'd reply, "You are in New York City."   They'd look around and point across the bay, "We want to go over there.", pointing to Manhattan.  I'd say, "Manhattan?  Why didn't you say so?"  They had no idea NYC was made up of 5 boroughs.

Aren't you a clever one!

=================

Serves them right for trying to visit NYC on the cheap.


Should have use the county names instead of the borough names. But growing up in Queens, we always referred to Manhattan as the city, as in, I'm going to the city tonight.
 
2013-11-13 12:02:10 PM

Fissile: Palin2012: Fissile: Palin2012: Thats just one place that im not in a hurry to go to. I dont really feel like dumping in a hole in the floor

===============

A squat toilet is healthier for you than the throne toilets American use.  Using a squat toilet means you are less likely to develop hemorrhoids and incontinence problems later in life.  It's natural for humans to squat when they dump.  Sitting while taking a dump has been around for only a hundred years or so.

I think that's what communists want you to believe. Every country that uses squatters is or was formerly communist in my experience. China, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Russia, all squatters. Sitting is the most natural way, has a longer and older history, and traditionally shows one is more culturally refined. It is really hard to wipe your ass while squatting. If sitting increases your risk of hemorrhoids, squatting destroys your knees. Try squatting for 10 minutes while you have diarrhoea over a shiatty, slippery, smelly, hole. Then trying to just lean forward enough so that you can wipe you ass while barely missing the festering day old shiat pile beneath you and not touching the door that has been torrentially pissed on. Do you know that most squatters are broken? I shiat you not, no pun intended, 9/10 squatters are broken and full before you get there. Also, squatters are the best solution for the Chinese. Most bathrooms have a lot of fluid on the floor and smell like ammonia. You know why? Because the first Chinese misses the urinal and a little gets on the ground. The next guy stands just past the piss on the ground and long shots it. He misses a little too. The third guy, the forth guy, these people were there at like 6 in the morning. Now there has been 10,000 people and you can imagine how wet the floor is and how strong the smell of ammonia. But I digress, squatters are the best solution for China because at least you dont have to touch your ass to where those 10,000 other people sat and shiat. If you ...


Isn't that a porn? Turning the wood brown and then red
 
2013-11-13 12:05:36 PM

Fissile: throne toilets American use


Good luck with your campaign to reverse the trend on that one. Thanks also for the non-science rationale. Next up: why peeing while you stand is bad followed by "never eat foods during an eclipse because evil moon rays have poisoned everything"
 
2013-11-13 12:09:00 PM

simplicimus: Fissile: Coming on a Bicycle: Fissile: When I have relatives from Europe visit, they are almost always astonished by how big everything is.   Most were dumbstruck to find out that New York is a large state and not just Manhattan Island.  Last few times I had fun farking with them.  I'd ask them where they wanted to go (I'm in Jersey).   They'd reply, "New York!".  I'd drive them over to Staten Island.  They'd sit there in the car looking at each other and then sheepishly ask, "Where are we?"   I'd say, "New York.  You said you wanted to go to New York."  They'd work up some courage and say, "But we wanted to go to New York City."   I'd reply, "You are in New York City."   They'd look around and point across the bay, "We want to go over there.", pointing to Manhattan.  I'd say, "Manhattan?  Why didn't you say so?"  They had no idea NYC was made up of 5 boroughs.

Aren't you a clever one!

=================

Serves them right for trying to visit NYC on the cheap.

Should have use the county names instead of the borough names. But growing up in Queens, we always referred to Manhattan as the city, as in, I'm going to the city tonight.


===============

This all started about 10 years ago, when I had some relatives from Austria visit.  I told them my sister lives in New York (Ulster County about 100 miles north of Manhattan), and they said they'd like to see here.  I started driving upstate and they started to fidget and whisper to each other.  I asked if everything was alright, they replied,  "Aren't we going to New York?".  They assumed that by "New York" my sister lived a highrise in Manhattan.  BTW, they enjoyed the trip to my sister's house in the "forest".

Interestingly, they didn't find North Jersey all that strange,  I guess houses separated by 10 feet is the norm for where they live.
 
2013-11-13 12:12:34 PM

flucto: Fissile: throne toilets American use

Good luck with your campaign to reverse the trend on that one. Thanks also for the non-science rationale. Next up: why peeing while you stand is bad followed by "never eat foods during an eclipse because evil moon rays have poisoned everything"


==================

"The ideal posture for defecation is the squatting position, with the thighs flexed upon the abdomen. In this way the capacity of the abdominal cavity is greatly diminished and intra-abdominal pressure increased, thus encouraging expulsion ..."

http://www.amazon.com/Bockus-Gastroenterology-Set-William-Haubrich/d p/ 072163687X/
 
2013-11-13 12:15:58 PM

Fissile: flucto: Fissile: throne toilets American use

Good luck with your campaign to reverse the trend on that one. Thanks also for the non-science rationale. Next up: why peeing while you stand is bad followed by "never eat foods during an eclipse because evil moon rays have poisoned everything"

==================

"The ideal posture for defecation is the squatting position, with the thighs flexed upon the abdomen. In this way the capacity of the abdominal cavity is greatly diminished and intra-abdominal pressure increased, thus encouraging expulsion ..."

http://www.amazon.com/Bockus-Gastroenterology-Set-William-Haubrich/d p/ 072163687X/


http://www.amazon.com/Bullshiat-Harry-G-Frankfurt/dp/0691122946/ref=s r_ 1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1384362927&sr=1-1&keywords=bullshiat
 
2013-11-13 12:18:40 PM

Fissile: flucto: Fissile: throne toilets American use

Good luck with your campaign to reverse the trend on that one. Thanks also for the non-science rationale. Next up: why peeing while you stand is bad followed by "never eat foods during an eclipse because evil moon rays have poisoned everything"

==================

"The ideal posture for defecation is the squatting position, with the thighs flexed upon the abdomen. In this way the capacity of the abdominal cavity is greatly diminished and intra-abdominal pressure increased, thus encouraging expulsion ..."

http://www.amazon.com/Bockus-Gastroenterology-Set-William-Haubrich/d p/ 072163687X/


It's also the ideal position for giving birth, I gather. But I don't see that catching on in the US.
 
2013-11-13 12:24:22 PM

simplicimus: Fissile: flucto: Fissile: throne toilets American use

Good luck with your campaign to reverse the trend on that one. Thanks also for the non-science rationale. Next up: why peeing while you stand is bad followed by "never eat foods during an eclipse because evil moon rays have poisoned everything"

==================

"The ideal posture for defecation is the squatting position, with the thighs flexed upon the abdomen. In this way the capacity of the abdominal cavity is greatly diminished and intra-abdominal pressure increased, thus encouraging expulsion ..."

http://www.amazon.com/Bockus-Gastroenterology-Set-William-Haubrich/d p/ 072163687X/

It's also the ideal position for giving birth, I gather. But I don't see that catching on in the US.


Try squatting for 10 minutes without letting your ass touch the ground. I dare you. You will fall over because you are most likely fat. Try breathing while squatting. You may prefer to squat with the Chinese but I prefer to sit like a thinker.
 
2013-11-13 12:24:42 PM

simplicimus: It's also the ideal position for giving birth, I gather. But I don't see that catching on in the US.


You'd be surprised.  "Natural birth" fans often do the squat thing, the pool thing...

Meanwhile both Japan and S. Korea have long had squat toilets and not communist.

I will agree that PIT toilets (whether squat or otherwise) are just plain nasty in a lot of places.
 
2013-11-13 12:25:09 PM

ransack.: Khryswhy: tetsoushima: ecmoRandomNumbers: flucto: Interesting. Even moving back to the US after a couple of years triggers some of these observations. Wait, I can buy milk, on Sunday, at 9pm, in 200 places? In gallons? For $3??? And the cashier is nice? And wishes me a blessed day? WHATTHEIDONTEVEN

I was gone for two years. When I came back, I couldn't believe people could drink 32 oz. of soda. And OMG! 44 oz! Then I saw somebody carrying around a literal plastic bucket from AM/PM (with an actual handle to carry it.) In Chile, we'd buy a 1-liter bottle of Coca-Cola as a treat to go with dinner, which was for everybody -- small glass, no ice.

It doesn't shock me any more as much as make me facepalm.

They just started selling 8 oz cans of Dr. Pepper in 6-packs now.  I'll drink maybe a can every two weeks or so when the mood hits me (I'm on a medication that makes soda taste really weird 99% of the time).  I wish they would do the same thing with ginger beer.

8oz cans (on page two) and it's better than ginger beer.

http://www.thevernorsstore.com/Products/tabid/62/pg/2/pgsize/9/cid/1 7/ sort/SortOrder-asc/Default.aspx

Aww I thought you were going to tell him the Ultimate American Secret of Ale-8-One, Lord of all Soft Drinks


First of all, while I really do appreciate the help in finding 8 oz cans of ginger soda, I can't imagine paying $7.25 + shipping for a six pack.  My big issue is one of convenience.  I will generally never finish 12 oz of soda, so if I want to break open a regular can I have to either find somebody to share the can with, or pour out what I don't want when it inevitably goes flat.

As for Ale-8-One, I've never tried it, but unless you live in CT, you've probably never tried Hosmer Mountain White Birch either.
 
2013-11-13 12:27:18 PM
Its interesting to see the differences though between the cultures. Many Chinese will squat on a western style toilet because they think it is unsanitary. I agree with them but sitting is far more comfortable.
 
2013-11-13 12:29:03 PM

Palin2012: Try squatting for 10 minutes without letting your ass touch the ground. I dare you. You will fall over because you are most likely fat. Try breathing while squatting. You may prefer to squat with the Chinese but I prefer to sit like a thinker.


Well, to be fair you don't know how to squat because you haven't done it your entire life.  It's one way to tell people who didn't grow up in Asia, they can't squat with their feet flat on the ground.  So they lose their balance frequently.  Also yeah, can't be too fat and squat comfortably.

Places where people squat, it's one of the most natural relaxed ways to just... be.  Little kids squat to play games on the ground, rather than sitting.

Anyway maybe it's due to the squatting or not but I find when I use a sit down toilet (as I have for years and years by this point) I tend to lean forward.

My main claim to decadence in toiletry though is paper.  No way I'm wiping with bare hands...
 
2013-11-13 12:29:50 PM
But now from way upthread... ice in beer? What is that craziness?
 
2013-11-13 12:33:28 PM
If you want the "benefits" of squatting (not judging one way or the other here) while on a sitting toilet, just lean forward and put your head between your knees.  The important parts are in the same position as squatting.
 
2013-11-13 12:37:56 PM

Fissile: "The ideal posture for defecation is the squatting position, with the thighs flexed upon the abdomen. In this way the capacity of the abdominal cavity is greatly diminished and intra-abdominal pressure increased, thus encouraging expulsion ..."

http://www.amazon.com/Bockus-Gastroenterology-Set-William-Haubrich/d p/ 072163687X/


Yay, let's all undertake significant, disgusting and uncomfortable effort for a mostly theoretical benefit that can easily be gained by eating more 3@#$%@ vegetables.
 
2013-11-13 01:04:31 PM

ransack.: Phinn: In Europe, everyone is intellectual and cultured and slim and they wear tweed and heavy wool clothes and go to cafés where they eat really good chocolate and talk in six languages about art and literature and politics, then eat tiny, exotic meals, all expertly prepared, and live in quaint cobblestone neighborhoods where you can walk to the corner market that has a butcher and a baker and a candlestick maker.

In America, you drive your SUV from your McMansion to an enormous supermarket where fake-nice salespeople try to sell you oversized Oreos packages and Coca-Cola in giant plastic bottles and then you eat dinner at a chain restaurant where you get a 4,000 calorie cheeseburger and talk really loudly about things like "the bottom line" or high school football or how much you hate minorities and socialism.

I don't remember reading anything from you before but you just got made the same shade of green as PocketNinja. That is a compliment



It certainly is!
 
2013-11-13 01:09:54 PM

tetsoushima: ransack.: Khryswhy: tetsoushima: ecmoRandomNumbers: flucto: Interesting. Even moving back to the US after a couple of years triggers some of these observations. Wait, I can buy milk, on Sunday, at 9pm, in 200 places? In gallons? For $3??? And the cashier is nice? And wishes me a blessed day? WHATTHEIDONTEVEN

I was gone for two years. When I came back, I couldn't believe people could drink 32 oz. of soda. And OMG! 44 oz! Then I saw somebody carrying around a literal plastic bucket from AM/PM (with an actual handle to carry it.) In Chile, we'd buy a 1-liter bottle of Coca-Cola as a treat to go with dinner, which was for everybody -- small glass, no ice.

It doesn't shock me any more as much as make me facepalm.

They just started selling 8 oz cans of Dr. Pepper in 6-packs now.  I'll drink maybe a can every two weeks or so when the mood hits me (I'm on a medication that makes soda taste really weird 99% of the time).  I wish they would do the same thing with ginger beer.

8oz cans (on page two) and it's better than ginger beer.

http://www.thevernorsstore.com/Products/tabid/62/pg/2/pgsize/9/cid/1 7/ sort/SortOrder-asc/Default.aspx

Aww I thought you were going to tell him the Ultimate American Secret of Ale-8-One, Lord of all Soft Drinks

First of all, while I really do appreciate the help in finding 8 oz cans of ginger soda, I can't imagine paying $7.25 + shipping for a six pack.  My big issue is one of convenience.  I will generally never finish 12 oz of soda, so if I want to break open a regular can I have to either find somebody to share the can with, or pour out what I don't want when it inevitably goes flat.

As for Ale-8-One, I've never tried it, but unless you live in CT, you've probably never tried Hosmer Mountain White Birch either.


Why don't you get a Sodastream kit and make your own?  I love mine for plain sparkling water.
 
2013-11-13 01:17:20 PM
I remember, when you were down
And you needed a helping hand
I came to feed you
But now that I need you
You won't give me a second glance

Now I'm calling all citizens from all over the world
This is Captain America calling
I bailed you out when you were down on your knees
So will you catch me now I'm falling

Help me now I'm calling you
Catch me now I'm falling
I'm in your hands, it's up to you
Catch me now I'm falling

I remember when you were down
You would always come running to me
I never denied you and I would guide you
Through all of your difficulties

Now I'm calling all citizens from all over the world
This is Captain America calling
I bailed you out when you were down on your knees
So will you catch me now I'm falling

Help me now I'm calling you
Catch me now I'm falling
I'm in your hands, it's up to you
Catch me now I'm falling

When you were broke you would come to me
And I would always pull you round
Now I call your office on the telephone
And your secretary tells me that she's sorry,
But, you've gone out of town.

This is Captain America calling
This is Captain America calling
Help me now I'm calling you
Catch me now I'm falling
I'm in your hands, it's up to you
Catch me now I'm falling
Catch me now I'm falling
Catch me now I'm falling
Catch me now I'm falling
Catch me now I'm falling

I stood by you through all of your depressions
And I lifted you when you were down
Now it's your chance to do the same for me
I call your office and your secretary tells me
That you've gone out of town

This is Captain America calling
This is Captain America calling
Catch me now I'm falling
Catch me now I'm falling

I was the one who always bailed you out
Of your depressions and your difficulties
I never thought that you would let me down
But the next time you're in trouble
Better not come running to me

Now I'm calling all citizens from all over the world
This is Captain America calling
I bailed you out when you were down on your knees
So will you catch me now I'm falling
Catch me now I'm falling

-Ray Davies

Catch Me Now, I'm Falling
 
2013-11-13 01:17:43 PM

DamnYankees: The other one, which is also an inverse of one mentioned in the article, is the observation that the types of food we eat in the US is very narrow. If you go to a restaurant, you will pretty much only have beef, pork, chicken or a few basic fishes, and none of which will ever come with bones (or, god forbid, whole). This is a very US-thing, I think.


Here in KC is a place called B.B.'s Lawnside BBQ.  They used to (might still) serve a whole BBQ catfish, bones and all.  That's a very US-thing.  It's incredible.
 
2013-11-13 01:27:42 PM

LandOfChocolate: tetsoushima: ransack.: Khryswhy: tetsoushima: ecmoRandomNumbers: flucto: Interesting. Even moving back to the US after a couple of years triggers some of these observations. Wait, I can buy milk, on Sunday, at 9pm, in 200 places? In gallons? For $3??? And the cashier is nice? And wishes me a blessed day? WHATTHEIDONTEVEN

I was gone for two years. When I came back, I couldn't believe people could drink 32 oz. of soda. And OMG! 44 oz! Then I saw somebody carrying around a literal plastic bucket from AM/PM (with an actual handle to carry it.) In Chile, we'd buy a 1-liter bottle of Coca-Cola as a treat to go with dinner, which was for everybody -- small glass, no ice.

It doesn't shock me any more as much as make me facepalm.

They just started selling 8 oz cans of Dr. Pepper in 6-packs now.  I'll drink maybe a can every two weeks or so when the mood hits me (I'm on a medication that makes soda taste really weird 99% of the time).  I wish they would do the same thing with ginger beer.

8oz cans (on page two) and it's better than ginger beer.

http://www.thevernorsstore.com/Products/tabid/62/pg/2/pgsize/9/cid/1 7/ sort/SortOrder-asc/Default.aspx

Aww I thought you were going to tell him the Ultimate American Secret of Ale-8-One, Lord of all Soft Drinks

First of all, while I really do appreciate the help in finding 8 oz cans of ginger soda, I can't imagine paying $7.25 + shipping for a six pack.  My big issue is one of convenience.  I will generally never finish 12 oz of soda, so if I want to break open a regular can I have to either find somebody to share the can with, or pour out what I don't want when it inevitably goes flat.

As for Ale-8-One, I've never tried it, but unless you live in CT, you've probably never tried Hosmer Mountain White Birch either.

Why don't you get a Sodastream kit and make your own?  I love mine for plain sparkling water.


I have one.  It's great for seltzer, but their syrups are terrible.  Sometimes you just feel like a can of ginger beer or Dr. Pepper.
 
2013-11-13 01:28:55 PM

9Speed: Shostie: America is literally HUGE.

I think a lot of Americans don't quite comprehend how massive this country really is.

A few months ago I had a long-time friend fly in from Denmark to stay with me for a week.  He had already planned out an itinerary for all the places he wanted to drive to...

Mon he arrived in Ft Lauderdale.
Tues he thought it would be fun to drive to Washington DC.
Weds we're going to see the arch in St Louis
Thurs let's hike the Grand Canyon in the morning and then go to Disneyland in the afternoon
Fri drive back to FL
etc.


According to google maps, it could be done within the time allotted. But you would only have 15 hours to do everything but drive.
 
2013-11-13 01:33:08 PM

itazurakko: Well, to be fair you don't know how to squat because you haven't done it your entire life.  It's one way to tell people who didn't grow up in Asia, they can't squat with their feet flat on the ground.  So they lose their balance frequently.  Also yeah, can't be too fat and squat comfortably.

Places where people squat, it's one of the most natural relaxed ways to just... be.  Little kids squat to play games on the ground, rather than sitting...


I'm  an American who lived in Japan for several years, and I agree. Proper squatting takes practice. I had to explain a few times that in some areas (including where I grew up), squatting IN ANY CONTEXT is considered inappropriate. When I was a little kid, I was "corrected" if I was caught squatting while playing.

The very position is considered vulgar or crude in some societies. If you grew up in one of those, it can take quite a bit of hamstring stretching before you can make peace with floor toilets. I was saved by my dance hobby. :-P
 
2013-11-13 02:03:43 PM

abhorrent1: I work for a large tech company so there are a lot of Indians there. A few things about them baffle me.

1. Their complete lack of appreciation of "Personal Space". Even if it's just me and one Indian guy in the elevator, He'll stand so close I'm waiting for him to start grinding on me.


Indians are like a gas-the occupy every inch of available space.  I had an empty seat next to me on a plane ride into India.  The Indians all piled their extra bags in that seat and seemed suprised that I had a problem with it.
 
2013-11-13 02:49:36 PM

stiletto_the_wise: kombi: I think thats what we dont understand here. Now this is going to bug people but we really dont have a class system like they do in other countries. They really do. You are born poor. You stay poor. You dont go to school. Your dad pounds rock on the road you do too. Its difficult go get out of your class in alot of countries. You where born in the slums. You die in the slums.

Well, the USA does have a pronounced class system, but mobility between classes is slightly better than in some countries (but worse than others). Typically, if your parents have money, you will. If your parents don't, you won't unless you are very lucky.

Another quirk of the USA comes from the difference between social class and economic class. In the USA there is very little, if any, vestiges of social class left. Class here is entirely economic.


Have you ever read "Class" by Paul Fussell?  There are some very interesting observations in there, particularly that the lower someone ranks in social class, the more likely they are to see class as mostly economic.  I.e., the proles see it as almost entirely economic, middle class sees it as a blend, upper-middle sees a strong social element, and the upper class really doesn't think about it.  It's a bit dated (mid 90's I think,) but I read it and had one "aha!" moment after the next. 

My parents come from a decidedly prole background (first generation to go to college), and my wife's family is very much upper middle (lawyers, diplomats, college VPs.)  Our immediate families are economically about the same, but there's a distinct difference in worldviews.
 
2013-11-13 02:51:49 PM

RINO: 9Speed: Shostie: America is literally HUGE.

I think a lot of Americans don't quite comprehend how massive this country really is.

A few months ago I had a long-time friend fly in from Denmark to stay with me for a week.  He had already planned out an itinerary for all the places he wanted to drive to...

Mon he arrived in Ft Lauderdale.
Tues he thought it would be fun to drive to Washington DC.
Weds we're going to see the arch in St Louis
Thurs let's hike the Grand Canyon in the morning and then go to Disneyland in the afternoon
Fri drive back to FL
etc.

I've found this map to be a useful visual aid for that sort of thing.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 300x287]


driving from Italy to Spain would be a gorgeous, amazing trip encountering a variety of language, culture, and natural beauty. the American equivalent from Florida to Texas.. not so much.
 
2013-11-13 03:07:19 PM
This so much!

Visiting America is always a pleasure for me. Wish I could do so more often [ideally, annually].
 
2013-11-13 03:26:35 PM

nytmare: I do not know what drives their dicking with the sizes.


Profit and perceived value.

Soft drinks are almost pure profit to begin with.   The cup literally costs more than the contents.   Offering the customer 2x as much beverage for 10% extra sounds like a good value to them, and you've just increased your profit margin on the transaction by 10%.

The whole portion inflation thing is kind of the converse of that: they have to raise prices, so in order to mollify people's perception that they're getting ripped off they offer larger portions to compensate.   People usually won't balk at paying more if they think they're getting more for their money.
 
2013-11-13 03:33:38 PM
A friend visiting from Thailand asked if he could have a basin of warm water, soap and a dry hand towel in the bathroom to clean himself up with after taking a dump.

My wife was grossed out by the thought and asked me to talk to him about it.

I jokingly told him, "Your in the civilized world now and we use an invention called toilet paper here".

He thought it was ä disgusting, unsanitary practice and said, "If for some reason you accidentally got a bit of excrement on your face, would you clean it off using soap and water or wipe it off with a piece of dry paper".
 
2013-11-13 03:42:10 PM
I watched the Stephen Fry goes to America thing on Netflix a while ago, and while it was interesting, it seemed to peter out quite a bit when he got to the Western states as compared to the attention given at the start to the eastern and southern. Colorado is not just Aspen, thanks. Otherwise though, I thought it showed just how huge and diverse the US is.
 
2013-11-13 03:46:11 PM

Hella Fark: the American equivalent from Florida to Texas.. not so much.


That's because you're following the gulf coast the whole trip.   Try driving north instead.
 
2013-11-13 04:44:33 PM

Silverstaff: Fish in a Barrel: Erik_Emune: Completely bizarre to this Dane. The idea of an employer going through the rigamarole of printing checks rather than get a bank account number and doing direct transfer is positively 1950s.

As an American, I'm surprised checks came up at all.  About the only time I see a check is for large transfers:  buying a car, renovating the kitchen, etc.  Everything else is direct debit/deposit or credit card.  I'm honestly curious where these folks are coming across checks so often that it would make an impression.

Same.

I write maybe 1 or 2 checks a year.

I pay my rent by electronic transfer.  I am paid by direct deposit.  I pay all my bills online through electronic transfers.  All this talk about paper checks is kinda strange to me, and I've lived in the USA my entire life.  Paper checks have been fading rapidly from prominence over the last decade or so.

As for the portion sizes, many people I know basically treat those meals as two meals, you eat one and then take the other home later.  One person in TFA noted how easy it was to get things taken home from restaurants.  The two go together like that.


Actually, most of my bill payments, other than Comcast, are all handled via my bank by sending actual physical checks.  Our utilities charge for paying via methods other than that, and some of our regular bills have no other payment methods.

Things are pretty stupid in the Midwest still.
 
2013-11-13 05:04:28 PM

Izunbacol: stiletto_the_wise: kombi: I think thats what we dont understand here. Now this is going to bug people but we really dont have a class system like they do in other countries. They really do. You are born poor. You stay poor. You dont go to school. Your dad pounds rock on the road you do too. Its difficult go get out of your class in alot of countries. You where born in the slums. You die in the slums.

Well, the USA does have a pronounced class system, but mobility between classes is slightly better than in some countries (but worse than others). Typically, if your parents have money, you will. If your parents don't, you won't unless you are very lucky.

Another quirk of the USA comes from the difference between social class and economic class. In the USA there is very little, if any, vestiges of social class left. Class here is entirely economic.

Have you ever read "Class" by Paul Fussell?  There are some very interesting observations in there, particularly that the lower someone ranks in social class, the more likely they are to see class as mostly economic.  I.e., the proles see it as almost entirely economic, middle class sees it as a blend, upper-middle sees a strong social element, and the upper class really doesn't think about it.  It's a bit dated (mid 90's I think,) but I read it and had one "aha!" moment after the next. 

My parents come from a decidedly prole background (first generation to go to college), and my wife's family is very much upper middle (lawyers, diplomats, college VPs.)  Our immediate families are economically about the same, but there's a distinct difference in worldviews.


============

Poor people can't afford to buy an ideology.
 
2013-11-13 05:19:40 PM

zencentral: A friend visiting from Thailand asked if he could have a basin of warm water, soap and a dry hand towel in the bathroom to clean himself up with after taking a dump.

My wife was grossed out by the thought and asked me to talk to him about it.

I jokingly told him, "Your in the civilized world now and we use an invention called toilet paper here".

He thought it was ä disgusting, unsanitary practice and said, "If for some reason you accidentally got a bit of excrement on your face, would you clean it off using soap and water or wipe it off with a piece of dry paper".


We also have a thing called showers that we use quite often...    I guess we trade the hassle of througly cleaning the "area", and the associated hassle of having to then deal with the instruments of cleaning, for disposable wipes and a regular full body cleansing...
 
2013-11-13 05:53:37 PM

kombi: I do think its funny how alot of Europeans just think we are backwards. When I was in soccer radio we would have Euro players come in and complain how we dont drive on the correct side of the road. They cant take there teenage kids to a bar, we dont use pal for our video standard, we use 110v and not 220. How we where simple and backwards compared to the rest of the world. Why would someone want to live so far away from LA or NY. Why would we want to live any ware else in the country. They dont understand why there teenage kids could not go to Hollywood clubs with them. All kinds of stuff


For Europeans like that, I just sweep them in the same tidy pile as all the other assholes in this world.. whether they be European, American or Australian.
 
2013-11-13 06:05:21 PM

TuteTibiImperes: DamnYankees:

Within ten miles of my house I have Mexican, Salvadoran, Peruvian, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Jamaican, Dominican, Haitian, Brazilian, and Argentinian.


Sounds like you need to move to a better neighborhood.
 
2013-11-13 06:18:12 PM
I see people writing checks every day, all you have to do is get in line behind an old lady. They ALWAYS pay by check.

And somehow they're still surprised/offended by the fact that you have to provide ID.

Thats been the standard for at least 40 years now people!
 
2013-11-13 06:31:13 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Fano: My Indian wife would agree with all the points the first two made.

Except. What is an EMI?

I don't know...but there's an unlimited supply.


On the other hand, there is no reason why.
 
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