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2013-11-12 05:20:26 PM  
Fabulous headline!
 
2013-11-12 05:49:43 PM  

BKITU: Fabulous headline!


Agreed! Needs a little...

www.dvdizzy.com
 
2013-11-12 06:05:00 PM  
www.watermarkonline.com
woo
 
2013-11-12 06:05:02 PM  
Ahh, from the country that helped with B. Hussein Obama's electoral fraud.

/am I doing it right?
 
2013-11-12 06:09:02 PM  
Hey Moose! Rocco! Help the judge find his wallet.
 
2013-11-12 06:09:35 PM  
Good for them, especially because it's such a burden for people there to go to another state to get married.
 
2013-11-12 06:11:10 PM  
Oh, that's gotta be HOTY material right there.
 
2013-11-12 06:12:58 PM  
FTA:
Republican state Rep. Bob McDermott said in a letter to Abercrombie on Friday he will file a request for a temporary restraining order if the bill passes, the Honolulu Star Advertiser reported Tuesday. A state judge has said he will hear the case if the bill passes.

Even the HI GOP resorts to whining and foot stomping when they don't get their bigoted way. Sad.

But good for you, HI! You started this back in the 90s. It's good to see you finally finish it.
 
2013-11-12 06:13:59 PM  
 
2013-11-12 06:15:16 PM  
They beat Illinois.
 
2013-11-12 06:16:24 PM  
Mahalo!
 
2013-11-12 06:16:25 PM  

Phil the SWO: Even the HI GOP resorts to whining and foot stomping when they don't get their bigoted way. Sad.


Also, aren't temporary restraining orders usually for things that would harm people if they are allowed to go into effect, like laws requiring abortion clinics to have 14 foot hallways and admission privileges and granite countertops? Who is harmed by this?
 
2013-11-12 06:16:51 PM  

DeaH: They beat Illinois.


They'd totally beat off Illinois.
 
2013-11-12 06:19:26 PM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Phil the SWO: Even the HI GOP resorts to whining and foot stomping when they don't get their bigoted way. Sad.

Also, aren't temporary restraining orders usually for things that would harm people if they are allowed to go into effect, like laws requiring abortion clinics to have 14 foot hallways and admission privileges and granite countertops? Who is harmed by this?


The people whose straight marriages are threatened by the mere EXISTENCE of gay marriage! No, we won't explain how gay people getting married is a threat to straight people.
 
2013-11-12 06:19:42 PM  
Well done, Hawaii, and well done, Subby, great quote.
 
2013-11-12 06:19:52 PM  

Phil the SWO: Even the HI GOP resorts to whining and foot stomping when they don't get their bigoted way.


Modern GOP SOP. Textbook. Activist judges and all that.
 
2013-11-12 06:21:16 PM  
That explains why it got so cold around here this evening.  Clearly Hell has frozen over and Lucifer himself is planning to wreak havoc on this Earth.  Stupid gays and their rights?  What about my right to live a Hellfire and brimstone-free, non-tortuous life on this planet?  Oh God, the demons are raping me right now making it very hard to type.
 
2013-11-12 06:22:48 PM  

Phil the SWO:
Even the HI GOP resorts to whining and foot stomping when they don't get their bigoted way. Sad.


They're outnumbered by Dems about 4 to 1 in the House, and I believe there's only 1 Republican in the Senate, so they have almost no power at all. But there were a few Dems who opposed this legislation, so it wasn't necessarily a party issue. The general opinion from what I've read is that the courts will likely rule that the legislature had the power to decide.
 
2013-11-12 06:24:05 PM  

LordJiro: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Phil the SWO: Even the HI GOP resorts to whining and foot stomping when they don't get their bigoted way. Sad.

Also, aren't temporary restraining orders usually for things that would harm people if they are allowed to go into effect, like laws requiring abortion clinics to have 14 foot hallways and admission privileges and granite countertops? Who is harmed by this?

The people whose straight marriages are threatened by the mere EXISTENCE of gay marriage! No, we won't explain how gay people getting married is a threat to straight people.


Well clearly one must only look at all those straight marriages that are now failing in states that allow homo-marriage. Why, I hear that now at least 50% of straight marriages end in divorce there!
 
2013-11-12 06:24:39 PM  
For some reason, I thought getting gay married in Hawaii was already leagal.

in anycase, congrats folks! I hope virginia soon joins the rest of the world
 
2013-11-12 06:25:47 PM  

LordJiro: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Phil the SWO: Even the HI GOP resorts to whining and foot stomping when they don't get their bigoted way. Sad.

Also, aren't temporary restraining orders usually for things that would harm people if they are allowed to go into effect, like laws requiring abortion clinics to have 14 foot hallways and admission privileges and granite countertops? Who is harmed by this?

The people whose straight marriages are threatened by the mere EXISTENCE of gay marriage! No, we won't explain how gay people getting married is a threat to straight people.


Something something THE CHILDREN! something something.
 
2013-11-12 06:29:54 PM  
GOP: "God will punish them with fire and brimstone! Don't be surprised by the appearance of volcanoes!"
Nearby Sentient Individual: "Ummmmmm....have you ever studied Geography?"
GOP: "Geography is SCIENCE! SCIENCE is the way of the Devil!"
 
2013-11-12 06:32:57 PM  
The mahoos will be dancing in the streets.

/NTTAWWT
 
2013-11-12 06:36:59 PM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Also, aren't temporary restraining orders usually for things that would harm people if they are allowed to go into effect, like laws requiring abortion clinics to have 14 foot hallways and admission privileges and granite countertops? Who is harmed by this?


Silly, naive Sudo Make Me A Sandwich. Don't you realize this is a MANDATORY gay marriage law? Now everyone in Hawaii has to get gay married!
 
2013-11-12 06:52:34 PM  
I guess Hawaii's LDSers will be packing up and hightailing it to Tongo or Samoa pretty soon.
 
2013-11-12 06:57:09 PM  
Once again, gay people have always had the same right to marry someone of the opposite gender as straight people. Special rights herp derp whargarbl.

/congratulations Hawaii!
 
2013-11-12 06:57:29 PM  
Came to see Rodney, leaving happy.

/would be happier if i was in Hawaii in stead of MInnesota
//its friggen cold here.
///  can slashies be burned for heat?
 
2013-11-12 06:58:52 PM  

Cerebral Knievel: For some reason, I thought getting gay married in Hawaii was already leagal.

in anycase, congrats folks! I hope virginia soon joins the rest of the world


In many cases gay marriage passage is a gradual process, Hawaii, Illinois, Washington, New Jersey, Maryland, etc all had domestic partnerships similar to marriage before they allowed gay marriage. So none of this is just out of the blue, people build up a tolerance over time and realize that gay people are just people like anyone else. Go figure.

Which is why Colorado, Oregon, and Nevada are probably next. They all have domestic partnerships and a majority of support for gay marriage.  Of course previous legislation is not exactly necessary, but it helps. Michigan might pass gay marriage through the legislator next year, but its worth nothing that both Michigan and Nevada have Republican governors but with support in both states near 60 percent it'd be suicide possibly for either them to veto such legislation assuming it passes. Colorado and Oregon though are for sure.

As for Virginia, I wouldn't hold your breath for them to do anything in 2014. With public support in Virginia not quite at a majority, and no previous legislation. Yeah, no. 2015 maybe? Or maybe 2016. I doubt they'll hold out as long as Texas, Alabama, Georgia, and maybe Florida.
 
2013-11-12 07:00:27 PM  

CygnusDarius: Ahh, from the country that helped with B. Hussein Obama's electoral fraud.

/am I doing it right?


As always, America is behind the rest of the civilised world when it comes to human rights. Next i expect them to make a song and dance about how forward thinking they are.

/thats how you do it
 
2013-11-12 07:05:04 PM  
bbfreak: As for Virginia, I wouldn't hold your breath for them to do anything in 2014. With public support in Virginia not quite at a majority, and no previous legislation. Yeah, no. 2015 maybe? Or maybe 2016. I doubt they'll hold out as long as Texas, Alabama, Georgia, and maybe Florida.

The South won't bother until the Supreme Court forces them to, and even then it'll take a few decades minimum before they get around to removing the text from their lawbooks.
 
2013-11-12 07:06:26 PM  

Cerebral Knievel: For some reason, I thought getting gay married in Hawaii was already leagal.

in anycase, congrats folks! I hope virginia soon joins the rest of the world


The Hawaii supreme Court ruled for same sex marriage in the mid 90s, which kicked off DOMA. HI soon thereafter amended the constitution to allow the legislature to define marriage as straight only.

This undoes that law.
 
2013-11-12 07:11:47 PM  
Everybody could get laid before the law.
 
2013-11-12 07:16:13 PM  
Enjoy your leis while you can. There won't be any after marriage.

I don't know how your parents failed to warn you about that.
 
2013-11-12 07:21:27 PM  
Hey, I remember some comic from the 80s call "Homosexuality: Legitiment, Alternative Deathstyle". I kid you not, the cover had a bunch of zombies destroying D.C. It was pretty much an even more snark baiting chick tract that featured Andy Dick, the old guy from Up, and Ward Cleaver giving a... disturbingly detailed account of the horrors that await if we tolerate the gay. "Gay people touch food! Oh yuck!"
I'm just saying, it was published by a homophobe in the pre-Internet days, yet it goes into graphic sexual details, where gays congregate. I'm a little suspicious.
/Could anyone get some pics?
//Alternative Deathstyle would be a pretty good band name.
 
2013-11-12 07:24:55 PM  

Richard C Stanford: Hey, I remember some comic from the 80s call "Homosexuality: Legitiment, Alternative Deathstyle". I kid you not, the cover had a bunch of zombies destroying D.C. It was pretty much an even more snark baiting chick tract that featured Andy Dick, the old guy from Up, and Ward Cleaver giving a... disturbingly detailed account of the horrors that await if we tolerate the gay. "Gay people touch food! Oh yuck!"
I'm just saying, it was published by a homophobe in the pre-Internet days, yet it goes into graphic sexual details, where gays congregate. I'm a little suspicious.
/Could anyone get some pics?
//Alternative Deathstyle would be a pretty good band name.


farm2.static.flickr.com
First GIS result.

farm2.static.flickr.com
Back page. Of course it was written by Dick Hafer.
 
2013-11-12 07:27:35 PM  
Go Rainbow Warriors
barstoolu.barstoolsports.com
 ... to the altar
 
2013-11-12 07:28:05 PM  
Dick Hater?
 
2013-11-12 07:34:02 PM  

wellreadneck: I guess Hawaii's LDSers will be packing up and hightailing it to Tongo or Samoa pretty soon.


My, those Samoans are a surly bunch!
 
2013-11-12 07:35:36 PM  

Paris1127: Richard C Stanford: Hey, I remember some comic from the 80s call "Homosexuality: Legitiment, Alternative Deathstyle". I kid you not, the cover had a bunch of zombies destroying D.C. It was pretty much an even more snark baiting chick tract that featured Andy Dick, the old guy from Up, and Ward Cleaver giving a... disturbingly detailed account of the horrors that await if we tolerate the gay. "Gay people touch food! Oh yuck!"
I'm just saying, it was published by a homophobe in the pre-Internet days, yet it goes into graphic sexual details, where gays congregate. I'm a little suspicious.
/Could anyone get some pics?
//Alternative Deathstyle would be a pretty good band name.

[farm2.static.flickr.com image 319x500]
First GIS result.

[farm2.static.flickr.com image 317x500]
Back page. Of course it was written by Dick Hafer.


One page from inside the book, got it from here

img.fark.net
 
2013-11-12 07:44:22 PM  

George Babbitt: [img.fark.net image 403x393]


I think I know where that one Fark troll got his shtick from.
 
2013-11-12 07:55:37 PM  
We'll I'll be...banged in the Don Ho.
 
2013-11-12 07:56:56 PM  

bbfreak: Cerebral Knievel: For some reason, I thought getting gay married in Hawaii was already leagal.

in anycase, congrats folks! I hope virginia soon joins the rest of the world

In many cases gay marriage passage is a gradual process, Hawaii, Illinois, Washington, New Jersey, Maryland, etc all had domestic partnerships similar to marriage before they allowed gay marriage. So none of this is just out of the blue, people build up a tolerance over time and realize that gay people are just people like anyone else. Go figure.

Which is why Colorado, Oregon, and Nevada are probably next. They all have domestic partnerships and a majority of support for gay marriage.  Of course previous legislation is not exactly necessary, but it helps. Michigan might pass gay marriage through the legislator next year, but its worth nothing that both Michigan and Nevada have Republican governors but with support in both states near 60 percent it'd be suicide possibly for either them to veto such legislation assuming it passes. Colorado and Oregon though are for sure.

As for Virginia, I wouldn't hold your breath for them to do anything in 2014. With public support in Virginia not quite at a majority, and no previous legislation. Yeah, no. 2015 maybe? Or maybe 2016. I doubt they'll hold out as long as Texas, Alabama, Georgia, and maybe Florida.


Both the CO and OR governors are in a bad spot.  If they sign on, regardless of majority public opinion, they will still have a Tea Party primary challenger on this issue alone.  They may loose their jobs over that , regardless a Tea Party Republican stands little chance of election in those states.
 
2013-11-12 07:58:02 PM  
Whelp.This is it America.

It's not the corporate pillaging of second and third world nations.
It's not the use of the legislature power of the State to enforce "traditional" morality.
It's not waging war on countries who had nothing to do with 9/11, while cozying up to those who did.
It's not about being completely and utterly paranoid as a nation.

No. It's the ghei that will damn us as a country.
 
2013-11-12 08:04:25 PM  

themindiswatching: Once again, gay people have always had the same right to marry someone of the opposite gender as straight people. Special rights herp derp whargarbl.

/congratulations Hawaii!


Does this mean it's also legal for two straight guys to get gay married for benefits? Cause my hetero life partner and I think that would be swell.
 
2013-11-12 08:05:07 PM  

Richard C Stanford: Hey, I remember some comic from the 80s call "Homosexuality: Legitiment, Alternative Deathstyle". I kid you not, the cover had a bunch of zombies destroying D.C. It was pretty much an even more snark baiting chick tract that featured Andy Dick, the old guy from Up, and Ward Cleaver giving a... disturbingly detailed account of the horrors that await if we tolerate the gay. "Gay people touch food! Oh yuck!"
I'm just saying, it was published by a homophobe in the pre-Internet days, yet it goes into graphic sexual details, where gays congregate. I'm a little suspicious.
/Could anyone get some pics?
//Alternative Deathstyle would be a pretty good band name.


20 page excerpt of that comic. NSFW, level of stupidity may cause permanent drain bamage.
 
2013-11-12 08:11:43 PM  

Paris1127: Richard C Stanford: Hey, I remember some comic from the 80s call "Homosexuality: Legitiment, Alternative Deathstyle". I kid you not, the cover had a bunch of zombies destroying D.C. It was pretty much an even more snark baiting chick tract that featured Andy Dick, the old guy from Up, and Ward Cleaver giving a... disturbingly detailed account of the horrors that await if we tolerate the gay. "Gay people touch food! Oh yuck!"
I'm just saying, it was published by a homophobe in the pre-Internet days, yet it goes into graphic sexual details, where gays congregate. I'm a little suspicious.
/Could anyone get some pics?
//Alternative Deathstyle would be a pretty good band name.

[farm2.static.flickr.com image 319x500]
First GIS result.

[farm2.static.flickr.com image 317x500]
Back page. Of course it was written by Dick Hafer.


I love how there's a passage on the first picture that says "What consenting adults do in the privacy of their homes CAN hurt you.".

I want to know how. Because the only way I could see it happen is if the gay couple next door rams the bed so hard that your fishing trophy slides off the shelf and falls on your head.
 
2013-11-12 08:13:27 PM  

Tax Boy: Cerebral Knievel: For some reason, I thought getting gay married in Hawaii was already leagal.

in anycase, congrats folks! I hope virginia soon joins the rest of the world

The Hawaii supreme Court ruled for same sex marriage in the mid 90s, which kicked off DOMA. HI soon thereafter amended the constitution to allow the legislature to define marriage as straight only.

This undoes that law.


thank you for clearing that up. I knew that HI had a lot to do with DOMA, I just thought they were first and it had stuck


undflickertail: bbfreak: Cerebral Knievel: For some reason, I thought getting gay married in Hawaii was already leagal.

in anycase, congrats folks! I hope virginia soon joins the rest of the world

In many cases gay marriage passage is a gradual process, Hawaii, Illinois, Washington, New Jersey, Maryland, etc all had domestic partnerships similar to marriage before they allowed gay marriage. So none of this is just out of the blue, people build up a tolerance over time and realize that gay people are just people like anyone else. Go figure.

Which is why Colorado, Oregon, and Nevada are probably next. They all have domestic partnerships and a majority of support for gay marriage.  Of course previous legislation is not exactly necessary, but it helps. Michigan might pass gay marriage through the legislator next year, but its worth nothing that both Michigan and Nevada have Republican governors but with support in both states near 60 percent it'd be suicide possibly for either them to veto such legislation assuming it passes. Colorado and Oregon though are for sure.

As for Virginia, I wouldn't hold your breath for them to do anything in 2014. With public support in Virginia not quite at a majority, and no previous legislation. Yeah, no. 2015 maybe? Or maybe 2016. I doubt they'll hold out as long as Texas, Alabama, Georgia, and maybe Florida.

Both the CO and OR governors are in a bad spot.  If they sign on, regardless of majority public opinion, they will still have a Tea Party primary challenger on this issue alone.  They may loose their jobs over that , regardless a Tea Party Republican stands little chance of election in those states.


Here in Virginia, at least in Richmond, captital city, capital of the confederacy and all that, the city gubment is passing legislation to recognize same sex partners for city workers. not that they can do anything about it on account of state wide legeslation, but because the city leaders see the writing on the wall and want to have the language in place for when the state does... turn... as it were.

so.. if folks in capital city can smell something on the wind here in Virginia.. that is a good sign...


One must remember.. Richmond VA, like a lot of other really old southern cities,  have a reallyreallyreally big Gay population. and our major urban centers in NorVa and Hampton Rhodes/VABEAtch, are keeping a lot of the southwestern Bigots at bay. I point to our recent gubernatorial elections as evidence of that trend.
 
2013-11-12 08:14:02 PM  
Yeah, we don't have a big GOP here, we're Super-Blue.  But we DO have religious democrat conservatives, and representatives of such.  They're just as nutty as other religious conservatives.
 
2013-11-12 08:17:54 PM  

Paris1127: Richard C Stanford: Hey, I remember some comic from the 80s call "Homosexuality: Legitiment, Alternative Deathstyle". I kid you not, the cover had a bunch of zombies destroying D.C. It was pretty much an even more snark baiting chick tract that featured Andy Dick, the old guy from Up, and Ward Cleaver giving a... disturbingly detailed account of the horrors that await if we tolerate the gay. "Gay people touch food! Oh yuck!"
I'm just saying, it was published by a homophobe in the pre-Internet days, yet it goes into graphic sexual details, where gays congregate. I'm a little suspicious.
/Could anyone get some pics?
//Alternative Deathstyle would be a pretty good band name.

[farm2.static.flickr.com image 319x500]
First GIS result.

[farm2.static.flickr.com image 317x500]
Back page. Of course it was written by Dick Hafer.


And here's the full thing.
 
2013-11-12 08:21:55 PM  

CygnusDarius: Paris1127: Richard C Stanford: Hey, I remember some comic from the 80s call "Homosexuality: Legitiment, Alternative Deathstyle". I kid you not, the cover had a bunch of zombies destroying D.C. It was pretty much an even more snark baiting chick tract that featured Andy Dick, the old guy from Up, and Ward Cleaver giving a... disturbingly detailed account of the horrors that await if we tolerate the gay. "Gay people touch food! Oh yuck!"
I'm just saying, it was published by a homophobe in the pre-Internet days, yet it goes into graphic sexual details, where gays congregate. I'm a little suspicious.
/Could anyone get some pics?
//Alternative Deathstyle would be a pretty good band name.

[farm2.static.flickr.com image 319x500]
First GIS result.

[farm2.static.flickr.com image 317x500]
Back page. Of course it was written by Dick Hafer.

And here's the full thing.


And here's the NSFW part two (the first part we both posted was a 20 page excerpt, this one is longer but also includes some of Dick Hafer's other Conservative Comics).
 
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