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(The Week)   Things less popular than a minimum wage hike: Apple products, delicious burritos. Things way way way less popular than a minimum wage hike: The congressmen holding up a minimum wage hike   (theweek.com) divider line 517
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2013-11-12 06:03:57 PM  
Hey, another minimum wage thread!

Let's see which farkers work for Wal-Mart upper management shall we?
 
2013-11-12 06:21:47 PM  

haemaker: Let's see which farkers work for Wal-Mart upper management shall we?


Be a little more open minded. You don't have to work for Wal-Mart upper management to be a selfish asshole whose only joy is to shiat on the people our economic and political system has failed.
 
2013-11-12 06:22:02 PM  
But if their constituency wanted slavery, they'd vote for that. Right, GOP?
 
2013-11-12 06:22:13 PM  
I find it interesting that the Independents fall pretty much in the middle. Sure, that's what you'd expect, but being Independent myself, I've found that many(Especially on Fark for some reason) don't understand how the word works.
 
2013-11-12 06:22:37 PM  
On a growing list of issues, Conservative lawmakers claim to be representing their constituents values--which is so farking weird considering they seem to be either stupid or lying.
 
2013-11-12 06:25:34 PM  
$9/hour?  Try $15/hour.
 
2013-11-12 06:25:43 PM  
It's got to happen, like yesterday.  Stop holding this up, farkers.  I'm sick and tired of subsidizing the salaries of retail and fast food employees.
 
2013-11-12 06:25:51 PM  
I'm a huge liberal, but I do not support minimum wage hikes.
 
2013-11-12 06:26:36 PM  

sprgrss: but I do not support minimum wage hikes.


why not?
 
2013-11-12 06:26:52 PM  

Mikey1969: I find it interesting that the Independents fall pretty much in the middle. Sure, that's what you'd expect, but being Independent myself, I've found that many(Especially on Fark for some reason) don't understand how the word

world works.

FTFY
 
2013-11-12 06:27:20 PM  

Mikey1969: I find it interesting that the Independents fall pretty much in the middle. Sure, that's what you'd expect, but being Independent myself, I've found that many(Especially on Fark for some reason) don't understand how the word works.


Because a lot of the trolls, shills, and morons here claim to be independent, but they're about as believable as Baghdad Bob.
 
2013-11-12 06:27:21 PM  

Biff_Steel: But if their constituency wanted slavery, they'd vote for that. Right, GOP?


another thread-over moment... something that's happening more and more with regressive threads.

/qft
 
2013-11-12 06:27:25 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: $9/hour?  Try $15/hour.


No, minimum wage workers should not be making $30,000 a year.
 
2013-11-12 06:27:27 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: $9/hour?  Try $15/hour.


Cheapskate. Try $50/hr.
 
2013-11-12 06:27:35 PM  
Most Americans supported expanded background checks for gun buyers but we didn't get that either. Stop assuming your elected officials give a shiat about what you want.
 
2013-11-12 06:28:13 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: $9/hour?  Try $15/hour.


According to productivity, more like $21/hour.
 
2013-11-12 06:28:41 PM  

sprgrss: No, minimum wage workers should not be making $30,000 a year.


If the minimum wage had kept up with inflation it would be right around $15/hr.
 
2013-11-12 06:29:19 PM  

sprgrss: Soup4Bonnie: $9/hour?  Try $15/hour.

No, minimum wage workers should not be making $30,000 a year.


so.. what.. you lost at wheel of fortune? Couldn't buy any vowels? Had to spread your crap this way?

/Move your vowels every day or they'll get consonated
 
2013-11-12 06:30:45 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Mikey1969: I find it interesting that the Independents fall pretty much in the middle. Sure, that's what you'd expect, but being Independent myself, I've found that many(Especially on Fark for some reason) don't understand how the word world works.

FTFY


LOL, thanks. Fat fingered that one.

UNC_Samurai: Because a lot of the trolls, shills, and morons here claim to be independent, but they're about as believable as Baghdad Bob.


Yeah, the fun bonus is getting hated on by both sides, IF you get someone to believe your claim of Independence.
 
2013-11-12 06:30:49 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: $9/hour?  Try $15/hour.


Article says there is a bill for $10.10/hr with automatic increases for inflation.  They polled for $9/hr.

$15 is better.  Would also like to see COLAs for expensive areas.

/Diet COLA in New York.
//THANKS BLOOMBERG
 
2013-11-12 06:30:53 PM  

WhyteRaven74: sprgrss: but I do not support minimum wage hikes.

why not?


Because it doesn't solve the problem.  Better solution, changing the Earned Income Tax Credit.
 
2013-11-12 06:30:59 PM  

sprgrss: No, minimum wage workers should not be making $30,000 a year.


What percentage of minimum wage jobs are full time?
 
2013-11-12 06:32:49 PM  
static.happyplace.com

How about Darth Vader holding up Jesus in the the shadow of the twin towers?
 
2013-11-12 06:32:57 PM  

haemaker: $15 is better.


$150 is better still!
 
2013-11-12 06:33:17 PM  

sprgrss: Because it doesn't solve the problem.  Better solution, changing the Earned Income Tax Credit.


What's the problem and how would changing EITC fix it?
 
2013-11-12 06:33:24 PM  

sprgrss: Soup4Bonnie: $9/hour?  Try $15/hour.

No, minimum wage workers should not be making $30,000 a year.


I'd say most minimum wage workers are part-time.  They aren't going to see 30K/year.
 
2013-11-12 06:34:28 PM  

Madewithrealbitsofpanther: sprgrss: No, minimum wage workers should not be making $30,000 a year.

What percentage of minimum wage jobs are full time?


You're right, they aren't supposed to be full time jobs.  They are supposed to be unskilled labor that any tom, dick, or hairy can perform.

Raising the minimum wage will devalue skilled jobs and reduce incentives for workers to attain skills.
 
2013-11-12 06:34:48 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Mikey1969: I find it interesting that the Independents fall pretty much in the middle. Sure, that's what you'd expect, but being Independent myself, I've found that many(Especially on Fark for some reason) don't understand how the word works.

Because a lot of the trolls, shills, and morons here claim to be independent, but they're about as believable as Baghdad Bob.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that Mikey's point?
 
2013-11-12 06:35:49 PM  

jigger: haemaker: $15 is better.

$150 is better still!


Just need to get them over the poverty line.
 
2013-11-12 06:36:22 PM  

sprgrss: Because it doesn't solve the problem. Better solution, changing the Earned Income Tax Credit.


There's more than one problem at play.

Raising the minimum wage will devalue skilled jobs and reduce incentives for workers to attain skills.

History shows you're wrong about that.
 
2013-11-12 06:36:23 PM  

Gotfire: [static.happyplace.com image 850x1313]

How about Darth Vader holding up Jesus in the the shadow of the twin towers?


Is he standing over a pile of abortion skeletons?
 
2013-11-12 06:37:01 PM  

haemaker: sprgrss: Because it doesn't solve the problem.  Better solution, changing the Earned Income Tax Credit.

What's the problem and how would changing EITC fix it?


Increasing the EITC credit (read negative tax) would provide means to support wage earners who support families on minimum wage jobs, while at the same time not raising every minimum wage worker up.

Raising the minimum wage raises everyone, from the high school kid to the father of 2.  EITC raises the father of two and allows for additional savings income and economic security for the father of two the high school student doesn't need.
 
2013-11-12 06:37:24 PM  

sprgrss: Raising the minimum wage will devalue skilled jobs and reduce incentives for workers to attain skills.


If dealing with self entitled assholes in retail doesn't motivate some one to get skills to not do that for life nothing will.
 
2013-11-12 06:37:41 PM  

sprgrss: WhyteRaven74: sprgrss: but I do not support minimum wage hikes.

why not?

Because it doesn't solve the problem.  Better solution, changing the Earned Income Tax Credit.


How dos it not solve the problem? You need to give people enough money for them to buy the very goods that they are selling/making/supporting. Unless that happens, changing the EITC makes no sense.
 
2013-11-12 06:37:43 PM  

sprgrss: Raising the minimum wage raises everyone


Yes, that is the idea.
 
2013-11-12 06:37:43 PM  

WhyteRaven74: sprgrss: Because it doesn't solve the problem. Better solution, changing the Earned Income Tax Credit.

There's more than one problem at play.

Raising the minimum wage will devalue skilled jobs and reduce incentives for workers to attain skills.

History shows you're wrong about that.


no it doesn't.
 
2013-11-12 06:38:28 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: sprgrss: Raising the minimum wage raises everyone

Yes, that is the idea.


And it makes horrible macroeconomic sense.
 
2013-11-12 06:38:35 PM  

sprgrss: Raising the minimum wage will devalue skilled jobs and reduce incentives for workers to attain skills.


Possibly, but then again, "skilled" jobs are all full right now, so why don't we give the recent college graduates working as baristas a living wage until something opens up.
 
2013-11-12 06:39:50 PM  

haemaker: Article says there is a bill for $10.10/hr with automatic increases for inflation.



That's interesting. It would mean in that after a few years of inflation increases, working a minimum wage job will be more lucrative than having a STEM PhD and working for the government with no raises.
 
2013-11-12 06:40:04 PM  

sprgrss: Raising the minimum wage will devalue skilled jobs and reduce incentives for workers to attain skills.


Has this ever happened before?  Why would it happen now?
 
2013-11-12 06:40:16 PM  

sprgrss: Raising the minimum wage will devalue skilled jobs and reduce incentives for workers to attain skills.



Yeah, once you make 15 an hour, any incentive to work harder or cultivate marketable skills just flies right out the farking window.
 
2013-11-12 06:40:22 PM  
Wanna know how I know the Speaker never took Economics or failed it miserably?

"When you raise the price of employment, guess what happens? You get less of it,"- John Boehner

The amount of labor required to do a job, is the amount of labor required to do a job, regardless of the cost of that labor.
 
2013-11-12 06:40:27 PM  

haemaker: Hey, another minimum wage thread!


Let's make it a good one.

I especially want to hear the derp about how raising the wage makes things more expensive and businesses reluctant to hire. :)
 
2013-11-12 06:40:42 PM  

haemaker: Possibly, but then again, "skilled" jobs are all full right now, so why don't we give the recent college graduates working as baristas a living wage until something opens up.


Because they all obviously went to college for Mirror Universe Lesbian Artistic Religious Studies (otherwise known as a non-STEM degree) and should suffer because reasons.
 
2013-11-12 06:40:47 PM  

Sergeant Grumbles: Is he standing over a pile of abortion skeletons?


Probably.
 
2013-11-12 06:41:17 PM  

sprgrss: And it makes horrible macroeconomic sense.


30 years of stagnant wages makes horrible economic sense. 95% of income gains since 2009 going to the top 1% makes horrible economic sense. Subsidizing companies' record profits while their employees rely on the government to eat three meals a day while makes horrible economic sense.
 
2013-11-12 06:41:30 PM  
And I see that sprgrss is off to a good derping start.
 
2013-11-12 06:41:37 PM  

haemaker: jigger: haemaker: $15 is better.

$150 is better still!

Just need to get them over the poverty line.


Why stop at some arbitrary line?
 
2013-11-12 06:42:53 PM  

sprgrss: haemaker: sprgrss: Because it doesn't solve the problem.  Better solution, changing the Earned Income Tax Credit.

What's the problem and how would changing EITC fix it?

Increasing the EITC credit (read negative tax) would provide means to support wage earners who support families on minimum wage jobs, while at the same time not raising every minimum wage worker up.

Raising the minimum wage raises everyone, from the high school kid to the father of 2.  EITC raises the father of two and allows for additional savings income and economic security for the father of two the high school student doesn't need.


The high school kid with  more money can afford college and to live without assistance even working part time.  (yea, yea, he buys a nicer car, more weed and/or more XBOX games... economy improves in any event)

Raising the minimum wage means the private sector pays (...well, consumers).  Raising the EITC means the tax payers pay.
 
2013-11-12 06:43:00 PM  

sprgrss: no it doesn't.


well, I'm convinced.
 
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