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2013-11-12 02:51:31 PM  
How about you at least spell it right....
 
2013-11-12 02:58:49 PM  
Now taking bets on which round the Blues are knocked out. First or second. No other outcome possible.
 
2013-11-12 03:00:49 PM  
Good to see the Bruins have somewhat found their form.

They've been playing bend but don't break too much in the second period of games.

Of course when they got out of that against Tampa, Stamkos' leg bent and broke.
 
2013-11-12 03:02:03 PM  

Decillion: Now taking bets on which round the Blues are knocked out. First or second. No other outcome possible.


With the new format for playoffs they have a very good shot of not facing the Kings till the third round (Wildcard throws a wrench into that if Blues are 1st in their division and Kings 5th in Pacific and the Kings have more points than 4th place in central).
 
2013-11-12 03:02:31 PM  
Here are this weeks graphs and stats. TSN really docked the Lightning for losing Stamkos.

ESPN:

fubegra.net
(clickety-pop)

Biggest jump: Blues (+5)
Biggest drop: Islanders, Penguins (-5)
Biggest overall jump: Lightning (+23)
Biggest overall drop: Flyers (-12)
Lowest fluctuation: 3 (Devils, Sabres)
Highest fluctuation: 23 (Lightning)
Average fluctuation: 10.767
Lowest fluctuation travel: 5 (Sabres)
Highest fluctuation travel: 52 (Hurricanes)
Average fluctuation travel: 21.133
Unchanged from last week: Jets (23), Blue Jackets (26), Sabres (30)
Back at initial rank: Blues (3), Maple Leafs (14), Devils (24)
At maximum rank: Ducks (1), Lightning (5), Wild (9), Devils (24)
At minimum rank: Sharks (6), Penguins (8), Islanders (22), Oilers (29), Sabres (30)


TSN:

fubegra.net
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Biggest jump: Ducks (+7)
Biggest drop: Lightning (-11)
Biggest overall jump: Avalanche (+25)
Biggest overall drop: Flyers (-14)
Lowest fluctuation: 1 (Sabres)
Highest fluctuation: 25 (Avalanche)
Average fluctuation: 11.133
Lowest fluctuation travel: 4 (Sabres)
Highest fluctuation travel: 37 (Flames)
Average fluctuation travel: 19.467
Unchanged from last week: Avalanche (1), Canadiens (14), Predators (22)
Back at initial rank: Sabres (29), Panthers (30)
At maximum rank: Avalanche (1), Blues (2), Ducks (3), Stars (15), Sabres (29)
At minimum rank: Canadiens (14), Islanders (25), Panthers (30)

TSN vs. ESPN chart:
fubegra.net

Rankings vs. league standings as of 11/11/13: [I realize now that my attempt to stack the bars for last week's rankings was an epic fail, so they're now side-by-side.]
fubegra.net
 
2013-11-12 03:04:17 PM  
Bolts 5th to 16th, because Stamkos broken leg. Yes, he's that good. But I don't think they're done for yet. Bishop is playing well, but they'll need to have St Louis, Filppula, et al step it up a couple of notches. They brought up a couple of promising kids from Binghamton. Stamkos out for the season is a huge loss...but I won't give up on 'em yet.
 
2013-11-12 03:13:21 PM  

fatalvenom: They've been playing bend but don't break too much in the second period of games.

Of course when they got out of that against Tampa, Stamkos' leg bent and broke.


image.legios.org
Overall that 2nd period baloney has to stop.
I'd hate to see it become the norm for the entire season.
 
2013-11-12 03:14:00 PM  
The Hawks need to fix their penalty kill issues. Losing Frolik really hurt the PK. They also have a bit of trouble putting opponents away (though the Oilers have long been a thorn in the Hawks' side).

Still, they've had a decent start, and they could be doing far, far worse.
 
2013-11-12 03:16:45 PM  

Primitive Screwhead: fatalvenom: They've been playing bend but don't break too much in the second period of games.

Of course when they got out of that against Tampa, Stamkos' leg bent and broke.

[image.legios.org image 480x360]
Overall that 2nd period baloney has to stop.
I'd hate to see it become the norm for the entire season.


The Leafs had probably their best period of the season Saturday in Boston in the second.  (nothing much to show for it, though)
 
2013-11-12 03:18:55 PM  
www.examiner.com

/oh and GIS for Wild gives you this:

s3.amazonaws.com
 
2013-11-12 03:24:41 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: GIS for Wild gives you this:


I don't know what that's all about but I like it
 
2013-11-12 03:30:25 PM  

Fubegra: The Hawks need to fix their penalty kill issues. Losing Frolik really hurt the PK. They also have a bit of trouble putting opponents away (though the Oilers have long been a thorn in the Hawks' side).

Still, they've had a decent start, and they could be doing far, far worse.


Let's just hope like hell that Crow stays healthy. Hawks need another backup, stat.
 
2013-11-12 03:52:08 PM  
This headline made me sad.  Then I went back to being sad about the Sabres' season.
 
2013-11-12 04:04:29 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: GIS for Wild gives you this:

[s3.amazonaws.com image 640x480]


"I want to take cosplay photography out of conventions and in to the wild American landscape for a collection of incredible portraits."

Free-range cosplay?  Okaaaay.
 
2013-11-12 04:05:27 PM  
Yessss, top 24 team!
 
2013-11-12 04:13:08 PM  
Woot! Avs #1 again!
 
2013-11-12 04:17:55 PM  

fatalvenom: Good to see the Bruins have somewhat found their form.

They've been playing bend but don't break too much in the second period of games.

Of course when they got out of that against Tampa, Stamkos' leg bent and broke.


Man, I was home watching that game yesterday.  I kept thinking Stamkos was the player at the near post and couldn't figure out what went wrong.  Then they showed the replay in slow motion.  I packed the kids into the car and left the house.  I just couldn't sit still after seeing that.
 
2013-11-12 04:32:37 PM  

degenerate-afro: Jim from Saint Paul: GIS for Wild gives you this:

[s3.amazonaws.com image 640x480]

"I want to take cosplay photography out of conventions and in to the wild American landscape for a collection of incredible portraits."

Free-range cosplay?  Okaaaay.


I'm okay with it.
 
2013-11-12 04:33:48 PM  
Anyone want Kulikov??

Okay, how about Kuli and Versteeg??

...Alright, Kuli, Steeger, AND Butters??

Jovo?? Soupy?? Upshall??

What if we throw in 2 bags of pucks, 3 dozen rolls of tape, and a shiny new Zamboni??

Hello??

\Yet, I am still going to watch the Anaheim Ducks practice tonight.
 
2013-11-12 04:57:25 PM  
Jim from Saint Paul:

/oh and GIS for Wild gives you this:

[s3.amazonaws.com image 640x480]


I'll take two please.
 
2013-11-12 05:12:23 PM  
So, Panthers, how's that $3.5 million you spent for a 39-year-old goalie who hasn't played in a year working out for you?
 
2013-11-12 05:12:34 PM  
Stands on his head and remembers the great days of Lafontaine, Mogilny and Hasek.
 
2013-11-12 05:12:40 PM  

lifeboat: Fubegra: The Hawks need to fix their penalty kill issues. Losing Frolik really hurt the PK. They also have a bit of trouble putting opponents away (though the Oilers have long been a thorn in the Hawks' side).

Still, they've had a decent start, and they could be doing far, far worse.

Let's just hope like hell that Crow stays healthy. Hawks need another backup, stat.


Was secretly hoping Spaceman landed in Chicago, primarily for the lulz and so I could pick up a Bryz sweater.
 
2013-11-12 05:42:11 PM  

Primitive Screwhead: fatalvenom: They've been playing bend but don't break too much in the second period of games.

Of course when they got out of that against Tampa, Stamkos' leg bent and broke.


Overall that 2nd period baloney has to stop.
I'd hate to see it become the norm for the entire season.


Well not long ago it was the 3rd period where they had trouble. I was just glad to see them snap that trend.
 
2013-11-12 06:12:04 PM  
Ah, so Crosby has a seven game stretch where he's only moderately productive and all the rankings forget that we're ranking hockey teams and not Crosbies.  Okay.
 
2013-11-12 06:22:37 PM  
It's the Oilers, right?

*looks*

Wow, not the Oilers!

...yet.  :(
 
2013-11-12 06:24:43 PM  

WhiskeySticks: Was secretly hoping Spaceman landed in Chicago


Wanting to lose weight is nothing to be ashamed of, and I'm sure he'd be more than happy to do a phone appointment

img.fark.net

Oh my Red Wings, please start winning games again.  The week where you won four was so much more fun than this one.
 
2013-11-12 06:40:06 PM  

Kurohone: It's the Oilers, right?

*looks*

Wow, not the Oilers!

...yet.  :(


And now Yak is bringing the gong show... What's up with that?
 
2013-11-12 06:43:01 PM  

Anderson's Pooper: Stands on his head and remembers the great days of Lafontaine, Mogilny and Hasek.


This Sabres team is a terrible embarrassment to the franchise. Thank you Darcy Regier.
 
2013-11-12 06:44:14 PM  

fatalvenom: Well not long ago it was the 3rd period where they had trouble. I was just glad to see them snap that trend.


True enough
 
2013-11-12 07:42:43 PM  

Decillion: Now taking bets on which round the Blues are knocked out. First or second. No other outcome possible.


Came to say this.
 
2013-11-12 08:14:19 PM  
I know it's early in the season, but this is all we can get for comments for a power rankings thread?

There were more comments for NBA threads today which never happens.

Fark, I am disappoint.
 
2013-11-12 08:22:52 PM  

fatalvenom: I know it's early in the season, but this is all we can get for comments for a power rankings thread?

There were more comments for NBA threads today which never happens.

Fark, I am disappoint.


That we have one at all is pretty cool, we didn't last week...  but yea, they won't keep greening them without some better turn-out
 
2013-11-12 08:24:09 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: [www.examiner.com image 545x544]

/oh and GIS for Wild gives you this:

[s3.amazonaws.com image 640x480]


I was going to be watching tomorrow nights game anyway, but will she be there?
 
2013-11-12 08:40:43 PM  

sno man: Kurohone: It's the Oilers, right?

*looks*

Wow, not the Oilers!

...yet.  :(

And now Yak is bringing the gong show... What's up with that?


I said it a couple of weeks ago: I think Eakin's has lost the team already...and not just the players.  There must be a backroom war going on too.

He was brought in as a young, high-energy, no-nonsense guy with a fitness bent, so on paper it probably looked good.  But then weirdness started.  Jones has really blossomed on the Oilers, a solid defensive forward, good for clutch goals, plays hard both ways, the player Pisani was supposed to be.  And dirt-cheap too.  He resigned for 1 year, probably for less than he could have gotten elsewhere, because he wanted to see the payoff, thinking this was the year.  Then they try to waive him.  Nice way to treat loyalty, on a team that DESPERATELY needs some.

Then Eakin's starts going after Dubnyk.  All I can figure is that Dubnyk ran over his cat or something, because he's been trying to break him out of the organization.  I have NEVER seen a coach threaten to bench the established #1 after Game 1, especially not on a close, 5-4 loss, and especially not when LaBarbera had been looking shaky all preseason.  I won't say that Dubnyk has been playing great...but when all three starters have had 4+ goal games, the problem isn't between the pipes.  And now they're bringing in Bryzgalov?  A goalie bought out of the worst goaltending city in the league?  Because the LAST aging Russian headcase goalie worked out so well for them...

My guess is that Eakin's 'work or die' approach, which works well in the AHL, where you're either a journeyman looking to make a buck, or a young upstart looking to make the bigs, fell totally flat in Edmonton.  There's no creativity on the ice, the players are scared to make a mistake, lest he bench them, so they throw away their greatest asset, speed. (Although there was that weirdness with LaBarbera in the Phoenix game)  He's trying to get things settled from the goalie out, while this team has been put together for 4 years now the other way...score a gajillion goals, and get the defense and the goalie to stop a gajillion minus one.  That's where the backroom conflict comes in; he's trying to get rid of those players who best suit that system (Yakupov, who is admittedly a one-trick pony in Jagr Classic style, and Dubnyk, who until this year would play just as hard after letting in 4 bad goals as zero).
 
2013-11-12 08:58:27 PM  
The West is just ridiculous, maybe things will settle out once division play starts in earnest.

I made my prediction pre-season that the Blues would get to the WCF but lose. Whoever beats them gets the Cup, defeating Toronto.
 
2013-11-12 09:03:44 PM  

sno man: fatalvenom: I know it's early in the season, but this is all we can get for comments for a power rankings thread?

There were more comments for NBA threads today which never happens.

Fark, I am disappoint.

That we have one at all is pretty cool, we didn't last week...  but yea, they won't keep greening them without some better turn-out


What we really need is teams like Detroit, Washington and New York doing better so we can get some good old flame wars going.

Kurohone: He's trying to get things settled from the goalie out, while this team has been put together for 4 years now the other way...score a gajillion goals, and get the defense and the goalie to stop a gajillion minus one.


There isn't a coach in the NHL, AHL or ECHL who will have a team play that way anymore.  Eakins isn't the problem, it's Edmontons inept front office.
 
2013-11-12 09:34:50 PM  

Flappyhead: sno man: fatalvenom: I know it's early in the season, but this is all we can get for comments for a power rankings thread?

There were more comments for NBA threads today which never happens.

Fark, I am disappoint.

That we have one at all is pretty cool, we didn't last week...  but yea, they won't keep greening them without some better turn-out

What we really need is teams like Detroit, Washington and New York doing better so we can get some good old flame wars going.

Kurohone: He's trying to get things settled from the goalie out, while this team has been put together for 4 years now the other way...score a gajillion goals, and get the defense and the goalie to stop a gajillion minus one.

There isn't a coach in the NHL, AHL or ECHL who will have a team play that way anymore.  Eakins isn't the problem, it's Edmontons inept front office.


Eakins was an awesome AHL coach, and *leaf fan disclaimer* was what should have been the perfect coach for this lot of kids.  One mystery call of his was to get Keith Acton (former Leaf assistant coach) that was the special teams coach under Wilson (PP 27th, PK 29 ish. Annually) as an assistant coach with the Oilers.
 
2013-11-12 09:41:53 PM  

Kurohone: sno man: Kurohone: It's the Oilers, right?

*looks*

Wow, not the Oilers!

...yet.  :(

And now Yak is bringing the gong show... What's up with that?

I said it a couple of weeks ago: I think Eakin's has lost the team already...and not just the players.  There must be a backroom war going on too.

He was brought in as a young, high-energy, no-nonsense guy with a fitness bent, so on paper it probably looked good.  But then weirdness started.  Jones has really blossomed on the Oilers, a solid defensive forward, good for clutch goals, plays hard both ways, the player Pisani was supposed to be.  And dirt-cheap too.  He resigned for 1 year, probably for less than he could have gotten elsewhere, because he wanted to see the payoff, thinking this was the year.  Then they try to waive him.  Nice way to treat loyalty, on a team that DESPERATELY needs some.

Then Eakin's starts going after Dubnyk.  All I can figure is that Dubnyk ran over his cat or something, because he's been trying to break him out of the organization.  I have NEVER seen a coach threaten to bench the established #1 after Game 1, especially not on a close, 5-4 loss, and especially not when LaBarbera had been looking shaky all preseason.  I won't say that Dubnyk has been playing great...but when all three starters have had 4+ goal games, the problem isn't between the pipes.  And now they're bringing in Bryzgalov?  A goalie bought out of the worst goaltending city in the league?  Because the LAST aging Russian headcase goalie worked out so well for them...

My guess is that Eakin's 'work or die' approach, which works well in the AHL, where you're either a journeyman looking to make a buck, or a young upstart looking to make the bigs, fell totally flat in Edmonton.  There's no creativity on the ice, the players are scared to make a mistake, lest he bench them, so they throw away their greatest asset, speed. (Although there was that weirdness with LaBarbera in the Phoenix game)  He's trying to get things settle ...


There is a whole festival of wrong choices by Management in Edmonton.  It's one thing to try to draft the next Gretzky every year for how many now...  but there is nothing to back those guys up.  No nearly retired fading star to pass on any wisdom, no D, no goalie to ultimately bale these kids out night in and night out. NOTHING.  Raw talent without any guidance, usually goes to waste.  It'd be a shame to piss all those high-end picks into the wind.
 
2013-11-12 10:05:43 PM  
Wasn't expecting the Jets to take the Wings to OT.

Had Wings -1. Looking for that push now.
 
2013-11-12 10:15:06 PM  
Jets win in a shootout.

Wings suck.
 
2013-11-12 10:18:21 PM  
1-1 Bolts-Habs. Going to OT. Die, Carey Price...die.
 
2013-11-12 10:21:17 PM  
And the Sabres win!
 
2013-11-12 10:33:11 PM  
Bolts 2-1, SO.

Bishop is a beast.
 
2013-11-12 10:42:35 PM  

Anderson's Pooper: And the Sabres win!


Yay?
Well, OK...Yay!
 
2013-11-12 10:44:35 PM  

Mztlplx: Bolts 2-1, SO.

Bishop is a beast.


Yes, sir.

He's my waiver pick-up of the season so far :)
 
2013-11-12 10:55:29 PM  
Judging by their record thus far, I predict the Blues are on pace to disappoint me in the playoffs to a greater extent than any point in the past two decades.
 
2013-11-12 11:00:28 PM  
sno man:

Eakins was an awesome AHL coach, and *leaf fan disclaimer* was what should have been the perfect coach for this lot of kids.  One mystery call of his was to get Keith Acton (former Leaf assistant coach) that was the special teams coach under Wilson (PP 27th, PK 29 ish. Annually) as an assistant coach with the Oilers.

Yeah that one was a head scratcher.  Mind you those Leafs teams were a lot different from the current one.  However, if the argument is that the Oilers should be a run and gun team bringing in a coach like Eakins is the wrong move.  He's going to stress defense and puck responsibility, which is something the forwards need to understand.  Problem is, as you pointed out, they have no one to bail them out when they inevitably make those mistakes.  If the Oilers had a halfway decent goalie and a blueline that was at least respectable I think it would be a very different situation right now.
 
2013-11-12 11:01:36 PM  

sno man: There is a whole festival of wrong choices by Management in Edmonton. It's one thing to try to draft the next Gretzky every year for how many now... but there is nothing to back those guys up. No nearly retired fading star to pass on any wisdom, no D, no goalie to ultimately bale these kids out night in and night out. NOTHING. Raw talent without any guidance, usually goes to waste. It'd be a shame to piss all those high-end picks into the wind.



storage.canoe.ca

I don't want to classify Ference as a "nearly retired fading star", but I think bringing him in...a hometown guy at that, who has also recently won a Cup and has been proven to be a great locker room guy and solid defender and leader was kind of a good move on the Oilers part.

Then naming him Captain was an even better idea.

Some of you won't agree, but ask any of us Bruins fans how we feel about Andy and I doubt you'll hear anything but reverence.
 
2013-11-12 11:23:18 PM  
Don't mind me, I'm just sitting here wondering how the fark the Coyotes won in OT tonight at St. Louis when they quite honestly dominated us the entire 2nd and 3rd periods.
 
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