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(ESPN)   After dialing up the NFL Season to 11, have the Colts run out of Luck? Have the Panthers finally gained some respect? Is 72 inches of defense enough to keep the Bucs out of last place? Find out in your Week 11 NFL Power Rankings thread   (espn.go.com) divider line 224
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2013-11-12 01:11:00 PM  
Wow, both 0-8 teams win this week, poor Jaguars can't catch a break. Well, here are the FARK/FAIL ratings going into week 11:

1) Kansas City (1)
2) Seattle (3)
3) Denver (2)
4) New Orleans (4)
5) New England (5)
6) Carolina (6)
7) San Francisco (8)
8) Detroit (9)
9) Indianapolis (7)
10) Cincinnati (10)
11) Green Bay (13)
12) Arizona (16)
13) Chicago (11)
14) New York Jets (12)
15) Dallas (15)
16) Baltimore (18)
17) Cleveland (19)
18) San Diego (17)
19) Philadelphia (14)
20) Tennessee (21)
21) Miami (22)
22) Pittsburgh (24)
23) St. Louis (20)
24) Washington (23)
25) Oakland (27)
T-26) Buffalo (26)
T-26) New York Giants (25)
28) Atlanta (29)
29) Houston (28)
30) Minnesota (30)
31) Tampa Bay (31)
32) Jacksonville (32)

Parentheses are EPSN's ranks

The Eagles Are Too Damn High: -5 compared to ESPN
The Cardinals Are Too Damn Low: +4 compared to ESPN
 
2013-11-12 01:15:46 PM  
I understand the reasons for KC staying at the top, but I think they'd lose to Seattle, Denver, New Orleans & Carolina at this point. My opinion will obviously change depending on the outcome of their game vs. Denver this week.
 
2013-11-12 01:19:04 PM  
The NFC South is feast or famine.  Two teams in the top six, two teams in the bottom four.  Atlanta and Tampa Bay get to play each other this week for control of the basement.

Dallas is 5-5 and right in the middle of the rankings.  They are as reliable as a coin flip.  Wish for heads or wish for tails, in the long run you'll get an equal amount of each.
 
2013-11-12 01:19:37 PM  
I'll say this much. It ain't worth much, but the Panthers have earned MY respect. Especially that defense.
 
2013-11-12 01:20:18 PM  
The Buccaneers might get their second win of the year next week against the Falcons
 
2013-11-12 01:21:50 PM  
That Baltimore finish was crazy.

/WHAR GRAF WHAR
 
2013-11-12 01:21:52 PM  
I still love all the pressers saying "Well, KC hasn't beaten anyone with a winning record!"
1) You play who's on your schedule.
2) Most of those teams would have a winning or .500 record had they beat KC.
 
2013-11-12 01:22:46 PM  
Texans just released Ed Reed. Pick 6's, whiffed field goals and a coaching staff that's the laughing stock of the NFL will get you all the patience in the world. But say something about the staff and it's curtains.

Not that it really matters. Forgot he played for my team most of this train wreck of a season.
 
2013-11-12 01:22:56 PM  

xaks: I'll say this much. It ain't worth much, but the Panthers have earned MY respect. Especially that defense.


I said it after the 1st game when everyone was giving the Seahawks a bad time for "only" beating Carolina by 5 in an early start on the wrong coast. Carolina is no joke. That defense will win tough games for them and if you sleep on their offense Newton will own you.
 
2013-11-12 01:23:06 PM  

nmrsnr: Wow, both 0-8 teams win this week, poor Jaguars can't catch a break. Well, here are the FARK/FAIL ratings going into week 11:


The Bucs were going to win this week anyways again the Matty Hype

Honestly at this point the Failcons are going to end up as the worst team in the league since Tony is now playing w/ a jacked up toe
 
2013-11-12 01:24:27 PM  
Giants at #25?  *nods approvingly*
 
2013-11-12 01:27:23 PM  
The Bills are continuing to fill full of that Buffalo feeling.
 
2013-11-12 01:28:00 PM  
No way the Jags are worse than the bucs. Christ almighty that was an ugly game last night.
 
2013-11-12 01:29:06 PM  

RangerTaylor: The Bills are continuing to fill full of that Buffalo feeling.


Too many injuries. Too many questions and not enough answers.
 
2013-11-12 01:29:08 PM  
your annual Titans implosion was merely delayed a few months

Ed Reed should go to a good AFC team like the Pats or Bronies
 
2013-11-12 01:32:33 PM  

SenorBenedict: No way the Jags are worse than the bucs. Christ almighty that was an ugly game last night.


their offense looks a lot better with MJD healthy and Gabbert not starting, their vaunted passing defense looked good against Locker and against the run, but for whatever reason Fitzmagic carved them up... blame it on lack of adjustment i guess

if i had to pick, i'd pick the jags over the bucs in a 1 vs. 1
 
2013-11-12 01:33:01 PM  
Niners ranking is about right, we're having a weird year.
 
2013-11-12 01:33:22 PM  
I'm in early this time.  I get to post some Authentic BCS-Style Computer Rankings and ask WHAR GRAF WHAR? and WHAR JAKE WHAR?

God Tier
1. Kansas City Chiefs (8.18-0.82)
Top Tier
2. Seattle Seahawks (8.48-1.52)
3. Denver Broncos (7.40-1.60)
Very High Tier
4. New Orleans Saints (6.75-2.25)
5. New England Patriots (6.60-2.40)
High Tier
6. San Francisco 49ers (6.11-2.89)
7. Indianapolis Colts (5.97-3.03)
8. Detroit Lions (5.88-3.12)
9. Carolina Panthers (5.53-3.47)
10. Cincinnati Bengals (6.01-3.99)
Upper Mid Tier
11. Arizona Cardinals (5.18-3.82)
12. Chicago Bears (4.95-4.05)
13. New York Jets (4.92-4.08)
14. Green Bay Packers (4.91-4.09)
15. Dallas Cowboys (5.30-4.70)
Lower Mid Tier
16. Philadelphia Eagles (4.85-5.15)
17. Tennessee Titans (4.10-4.90)
18. Cleveland Browns (4.06-4.94)
19. Miami Dolphins (3.96-5.04)
20. Baltimore Ravens (3.82-5.18)
21. San Diego Chargers (3.70-5.30)
22. St. Louis Rams (4.13-5.87)
Low Tier
23. New York Giants (3.36-5.64)
24. Buffalo Bills (3.64-6.36)
25. Washington Redskins (3.03-5.97)
26. Oakland Raiders (3.01-5.99)
Very Low Tier
27. Pittsburgh Steelers (2.77-6.23)
28. Houston Texans (2.72-6.28)
29. Atlanta Falcons (2.50-6.50)
Bottom Tier
30. Minnesota Vikings (1.89-7.11)
31. Jacksonville Jaguars (1.85-7.15)
32. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1.64-7.36)
 
2013-11-12 01:35:42 PM  

SenorBenedict: No way the Jags are worse than the bucs. Christ almighty that was an ugly game last night.


I thought it was a decent game for 2 teams playing poorly. It was close where it should have been and went to the end. 2 team rushing yards, though... wow.
 
2013-11-12 01:36:13 PM  

AdamK: SenorBenedict: No way the Jags are worse than the bucs. Christ almighty that was an ugly game last night.

their offense looks a lot better with MJD healthy and Gabbert not starting, their vaunted passing defense looked good against Locker and against the run, but for whatever reason Fitzmagic carved them up... blame it on lack of adjustment i guess

if i had to pick, i'd pick the jags over the bucs in a 1 vs. 1


Glennon looks like a lost punter when he's taking snaps out there. And the bucs lack discipline like an unruly child. Like they took a personal foul on a punt kicked out of bounds because the returner flat out hits a gunner like a god damn idiot. I have no idea how Schiano still has a job.
 
2013-11-12 01:37:04 PM  
I know they're undefeated, but a team led by Alex Smith should never be ranked #1.  He's a game manager, really good defenses will eat him up.  KC just hasn't faced anybody with both a good offense and a good defense.
 
2013-11-12 01:37:06 PM  
Olympic Trolling Judge: I believe you've explained before, but what's the algorithm you use?
 
2013-11-12 01:38:09 PM  

IlGreven: I still love all the pressers saying "Well, KC hasn't beaten anyone with a winning record!"
1) You play who's on your schedule.
2) Most of those teams would have a winning or .500 record had they beat KC.


False.

Cowboys: 5-5
Eagles: 5-5
Titans: 4-5
Browns: 4-5
Giants: 3-6
Raiders: 3-6
Bills: 3-7
Texans: 2-7
Jags: 1-8
 
2013-11-12 01:38:52 PM  
If Pey-Pey blows out the Chiefs Sunday, how far do you think ESPN drops them?
 
2013-11-12 01:38:55 PM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: I know they're undefeated, but a team led by Alex Smith should never be ranked #1.  He's a game manager, really good defenses will eat him up.  KC just hasn't faced anybody with both a good offense and a good defense.


I can't wait until next week for a large dose of "I told you" if they lose and "one game doesn't prove anything" if they win.

/Not just you, but everyone who's saying that. Not a Chiefs fan, but they've beaten all f their opponents. That ain't easy.
 
2013-11-12 01:39:31 PM  

The Bestest: If Pey-Pey blows out the Chiefs Sunday, how far do you think ESPN drops them?


3 or 4 depending on how the CAR/NE and SF/NO games go.
 
2013-11-12 01:40:42 PM  

The Bestest: If Pey-Pey blows out the Chiefs Sunday, how far do you think ESPN drops them?


Not a bad question. Probably just under the Saints, but maybe as far as under the Panthers.
 
2013-11-12 01:42:37 PM  

Lando Lincoln: IlGreven: I still love all the pressers saying "Well, KC hasn't beaten anyone with a winning record!"
1) You play who's on your schedule.
2) Most of those teams would have a winning or .500 record had they beat KC.

False.

Cowboys: 5-5
Eagles: 5-5
Titans: 4-5
Browns: 4-5
Giants: 3-6
Raiders: 3-6
Bills: 3-7
Texans: 2-7
Jags: 1-8


Well duh, you have to ALSO assume those teams beath the Broncos a couple of times each.  To be fair and stuff.
 
2013-11-12 01:42:41 PM  
Denver-Seattle would be an interesting game to watch.  My Pats will probably win the division again, but it looks like (barring injury) Manning will cruise through the AFC this year.
 
2013-11-12 01:42:58 PM  
And the Eagles begin their November climb up the power ranks, only to dash our hopes again and again come December.

Eagles could use Reed, hard to get worse than guys like Allen and Chung, not to mention the fact that we're running 3 safeties in the "dime" formation. Wolff out for a few weeks hurts, but it'll be worse if Kendricks is out for a while.

And yet we have a favorable schedule coming up, if Foles doesn't turn into a pumpkin, they have a legit shot at taking the division.

/I'm here for one of these when it's live? Nice
//Whar graf?
 
2013-11-12 01:44:31 PM  
I'm worried about this weekend if the Denver D doesn't show up and the O Line forgets to protect Peyton. The Chiefs are going to target his legs.
 
2013-11-12 01:44:54 PM  

Klivian: they have a legit shot at taking the division.


I think Rutgers would have a legit shot at the NFC East at this point.
 
2013-11-12 01:45:00 PM  
i like how the giants are quietly getting wins after going 0-6 and face weakened packers and cowboys, reminds me of the '09 titans when they went 0-6 and finished out 8-2 the rest of the season and finished 8-8, only missing the playoffs because of a tie breaker with the chargers
 
2013-11-12 01:45:28 PM  

This Looks Fun: SenorBenedict: No way the Jags are worse than the bucs. Christ almighty that was an ugly game last night.

I thought it was a decent game for 2 teams playing poorly. It was close where it should have been and went to the end. 2 team rushing yards, though... wow.


Yeah. Who had to start Miller at RB2?

Me.

Did I need him in order to win?

Nope.
 
2013-11-12 01:45:30 PM  
Being a Dolphin fan sucks extra-hard this year.
 
2013-11-12 01:45:56 PM  

bass555: Denver-Seattle would be an interesting game to watch.  My Pats will probably win the division again, but it looks like (barring injury) Manning will cruise through the AFC this year.


I wonder if it would be some kind of superbowl weirdness in that they used to be in the same division.

Seattle looked good against the shiatty Falcons, it remains to be seen what will happen when they face the Vikings and a running back who can actually run.
 
2013-11-12 01:46:41 PM  
Eagles at 14 seems slightly too high.
 
2013-11-12 01:48:04 PM  

SenorBenedict: bass555: Denver-Seattle would be an interesting game to watch.  My Pats will probably win the division again, but it looks like (barring injury) Manning will cruise through the AFC this year.

I wonder if it would be some kind of superbowl weirdness in that they used to be in the same division.

Seattle looked good against the shiatty Falcons, it remains to be seen what will happen when they face the Vikings and a running back who can actually run.


Probably the same as last year. Peterson will have a decent game and they will lose anyway.
 
2013-11-12 01:48:24 PM  

Shame Us: The Bestest: If Pey-Pey blows out the Chiefs Sunday, how far do you think ESPN drops them?

3 or 4 depending on how the CAR/NE and SF/NO games go.


a blowout? maybe 7 or 8, seriously KC's strength is their ability to control the game, Peyote would be robbing the bank if he blew them out... they'd probably jump back up 3-4 just by winning their next game, but everybody's using the next two broney games as measuring sticks of the AFC so there will be big reactions
 
2013-11-12 01:52:50 PM  

Shame Us: The Bestest: If Pey-Pey blows out the Chiefs Sunday, how far do you think ESPN drops them?

3 or 4 depending on how the CAR/NE and SF/NO games go.


If the Patriots and Saints both win, I wouldn't be surprised if the Chiefs get dropped below them down to sixth.
 
2013-11-12 01:53:05 PM  

AdamK: Shame Us: The Bestest: If Pey-Pey blows out the Chiefs Sunday, how far do you think ESPN drops them?

3 or 4 depending on how the CAR/NE and SF/NO games go.

a blowout? maybe 7 or 8, seriously KC's strength is their ability to control the game, Peyote would be robbing the bank if he blew them out... they'd probably jump back up 3-4 just by winning their next game, but everybody's using the next two broney games as measuring sticks of the AFC so there will be big reactions


I could see them sropping below whoever wins both of those game I mentioned above and the Seahawks. If it ends up with SEA, CAR and NO winning, I'd expect to see something like:

1) DEN
2) SEA
3) NO
4) CAR
5) KC

That. of course, all depends on how the CAR/NE & SF/NO games end up. Blowouts in either of them could change things. FWIW, I think they only blowout opportunity is NO taking the Niners apart in the Superdome. I thing the Broncos beat KC, but within a 2 score margin.
 
2013-11-12 01:53:24 PM  
About the Eagles from TFA

"Someone has to win the NFC East. The Cowboys looked awful Sunday, the Redskins lost to the Vikings and the Giants are two wins behind. Is this your division "favorite?"

Someone's snarky.

/plus someone asked Foles about the Napoleon Dynamite jokes.  "I think there's a resemblance, I can't lie."
 
2013-11-12 01:54:19 PM  

SenorBenedict: Seattle looked good against the shiatty Falcons, it remains to be seen what will happen when they face the Vikings and a running back who can actually run.


I don't even think that game is up in the air. It's really just an exercise for Seattle to see how they handle different looks. I don't think Minnesota will be able to actually compete for that win.
 
2013-11-12 01:55:16 PM  

This Looks Fun: Olympic Trolling Judge: I believe you've explained before, but what's the algorithm you use?


It's the Colley Matrix method, currently used as one of the six BCS computer rankings.  Each team's rating is basically a winning percentage adjusted for strength of schedule.  Everyone's spotted one win and one loss at the start to set their ratings to .500 and avoid dividing by zero, and from then on each win is worth .5 plus the opponent's rating (an average of 1) and each loss is worth -.5 plus the opponent's rating (an average of 0).
 
2013-11-12 01:57:08 PM  

eddievercetti: About the Eagles from TFA

"Someone has to win the NFC East. The Cowboys looked awful Sunday, the Redskins lost to the Vikings and the Giants are two wins behind. Is this your division "favorite?"

Someone's snarky.

/plus someone asked Foles about the Napoleon Dynamite jokes.  "I think there's a resemblance, I can't lie."



I've always thought Foles looks like Ron Weasley with a different hair color. I don't see the Napolean Dynamite.
 
2013-11-12 01:58:44 PM  

Earpj: I'm worried about this weekend if the Denver D doesn't show up and the O Line forgets to protect Peyton. The Chiefs are going to target his legs.


Denver is the Queen of Cut Blocking. If anybody needs to look out for lower leg health it is the Chiefs D Line.
 
2013-11-12 01:59:22 PM  
My predictions for this weekend
Den 42 KC 17
Car 35 NE 10
NO 466 SF 385

That last one might come down a bit though,

/disclaimer: Pats Fan
 
2013-11-12 02:02:03 PM  

SenorBenedict: Seattle looked good against the shiatty Falcons, it remains to be seen what will happen when they face the Vikings and a running back who can actually run.


They'll be fine.
 
2013-11-12 02:04:06 PM  
Whar grarf whar jak whar kwizz?
 
2013-11-12 02:05:03 PM  
SilentStrider:

I've always thought Foles looks like Ron Weasley with a different hair color. I don't see the Napolean Dynamite.

Tampa Bay's Mike Glennon is more like Napolean Dynamite. He's kind of a goofy looking dude.
 
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