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(Slate)   Op-ed columnist helpfully clarifies that teabaggers aren't racists, they just have to suppress a gag reflex when looking at Bill de Blasio and his mixed race family   (slate.com) divider line 181
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2013-11-12 12:22:26 PM
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2013-11-12 12:27:55 PM
To cultural conservatives, this doesn't look like their country at all.

That's because it's not their country.  It belongs to  all of us.

It never ceases to amaze me how people can look at inclusivity of everyone and still somehow feel excluded in particular.
 
2013-11-12 12:31:30 PM
Published: October 6, 1986: Post Offers Apology to Blacks

...a Post columnist, Richard Cohen, who sided with city jewelry store owners who refuse to allow young black men to enter their shops because of a fear of crime.

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@jamisonfoser has been straight hammering Cohen this morning. Cohen has a history of defending rape and torture. Fark does not like mediamatters links, but you'll find them in his timeline.
 
2013-11-12 12:31:43 PM
Anyone with glasses who chooses to wear frames like that is immediately placed in my not-to-be-taken-seriously file.

"Do you have anything that'll make my face look engorged and block my peripheral vision?"
 
2013-11-12 12:58:00 PM
De Blasio's wife "used to be a lesbian"? Why aren't the LGBT crowd shaming her?
 
2013-11-12 12:58:08 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Published: October 6, 1986: Post Offers Apology to Blacks

...a Post columnist, Richard Cohen, who sided with city jewelry store owners who refuse to allow young black men to enter their shops because of a fear of crime.

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@jamisonfoser has been straight hammering Cohen this morning. Cohen has a history of defending rape and torture. Fark does not like mediamatters links, but you'll find them in his timeline.


"Great XXXXXX Column" isn't a very fair search.   I can only find one result for "Great Roger Ebert Column", for example.... that phrasing isn't really that common.   Not standing up for Cohen in the least, just saying that test on someone is a pretty poor one.
 
2013-11-12 01:02:22 PM
You're the real racist for noticing his racism.
 
2013-11-12 01:06:09 PM
A Republican is a bigoted asshole and the "liberal" media gives him a megaphone to spout his drivel. I'm shocked..... shocked I say!
 
2013-11-12 01:14:11 PM
I still find it hard that opposition to interracial couples is even still a thing today.  I mean you would expect something like that in your dyed in the wool racist and those kind of groups but not mainstream.  Definitely from someone writing in a well known paper.  I know he was describing others reactions but "gag reflex" are his words and that he did not re-think his wording makes the point clear enough.

There are very very very few people who a pure white, black, etc.  Hell from just my ameture geneology tree, I am a mutt.  On the plus side I come from a long line of non-prejudice people.  They had sex and married everybody.

How about we try this.  If there a two adults who fall in love and proclaim that love publicly and get married and settle down and if they want start a family, then if you can't say something nice to or about them then let it go.  Your nose is not wanted in their business and then go look in the mirror and say... I am not God, so I am going to be about handling my own farkin business, and let others do the same.
 
2013-11-12 01:14:26 PM
The blogosphere is blowing UP over one sentence, seemingly unable to read the next paragraph.

This guy seems to be equally hated on all sides of the political spectrum.
 
2013-11-12 01:19:08 PM

gunslinger_RG: How about we try this. If there a two adults who fall in love and proclaim that love publicly and get married and settle down and if they want start a family, then if you can't say something nice to or about them then let it go. Your nose is not wanted in their business and then go look in the mirror and say... I am not God, so I am going to be about handling my own farkin business, and let others do the same.


As someone who spent 20 years in an interracial marriage, I find your opinion, quaint.

There are still many, MANY people who think it is "wrong". They just keep it to themselves more now, knowing their opinion isn't mainstream. I've been divorced for 5 years now. Many people who know me now don't know I was in an interracial marriage. I'm a gun toting hunter, so I'm "safe" for conversation, white girlfriend and all.

That shiat is still out there, slowly dying away...
 
2013-11-12 01:19:22 PM

gunslinger_RG: I still find it hard that opposition to interracial couples is even still a thing today.


It's the new black.

Oh...wait....
 
2013-11-12 01:30:51 PM

TheDumbBlonde: De Blasio's wife "used to be a lesbian"? Why aren't the LGBT crowd shaming her?


My thought: "Oh, so you mean she's bisexual and happened to have married a man despite dating women in the past? Much like the family being mixed race, that is also not a big deal to me."
 
2013-11-12 01:33:05 PM
I've been with black guys and had to suppress a gag reflex.  But for an entirely different reason than skin color.
 
2013-11-12 01:45:51 PM

TheDumbBlonde: De Blasio's wife "used to be a lesbian"? Why aren't the LGBT crowd shaming her?


Because we know better. If she used to be a lesbian, she still would be. She is bisexual - no shame in that.
 
2013-11-12 01:48:55 PM
Are they too successful and attractive for his conventional taste?
 
2013-11-12 01:49:28 PM

TheDumbBlonde: De Blasio's wife "used to be a lesbian"? Why aren't the LGBT crowd shaming her?


Because you don't understand sexuality?
 
2013-11-12 01:59:47 PM

mediablitz: The blogosphere is blowing UP over one sentence, seemingly unable to read the next paragraph.

This guy seems to be equally hated on all sides of the political spectrum.


OK, let's try that context.

Iowa not only is a serious obstacle for Christie and other Republican moderates, it also suggests something more ominous: the Dixiecrats of old. Officially the States' Rights Democratic Party, they were breakaway Democrats whose primary issue was racial segregation. In its cause, they ran their own presidential candidate, Strom Thurmond, and almost cost Harry Truman the 1948 election. They didn't care. Their objective was not to win - although that would have been nice - but to retain institutional, legal racism. They saw a way of life under attack and they feared its loss.

Today's GOP is not racist, as Harry Belafonte alleged about the tea party, but it is deeply troubled - about the expansion of government, about immigration, about secularism, about the mainstreaming of what used to be the avant-garde. People with conventional views must repress a gag reflex when considering the mayor-elect of New York - a white man married to a black woman and with two biracial children. (Should I mention that Bill de Blasio's wife, Chirlane McCray, used to be a lesbian?) This family represents the cultural changes that have enveloped parts - but not all - of America. To cultural conservatives, this doesn't look like their country at all.

As with the Dixiecrats, the fight is not over a particular program - although Obamacare comes close - but about a tectonic shift of attitudes. I thank Dennis J. Goldford, professor of politics and international relations at Drake University in Des Moines, for leading me to a live performance on YouTube of Merle Haggard singing "Are the Good Times Really Over." This chestnut, a lament for a lost America, has been viewed well more than 2 million times. It could be the tea party's anthem.


So, he's saying that cultural conservatives might split from the GOP over racism like Dixiecrats did in the 50s.  And he's talking about how to conservatives, the country they think they remember seems to be slipping away and it scares them (forget that it never actually existed).

But MAN is he saying it in a casually racist way.  "People with conventional views".  Those views aren't conventional.  Those views are racist.  He could have chosen any other way of saying it, but he chose the one that normalizes racism.  And so I think people are right to be upset.  I can see the overall point he's making, but that doesn't diminish the fashion in which he made it.
 
2013-11-12 02:03:32 PM

DemonEater: So, he's saying that cultural conservatives might split from the GOP over racism like Dixiecrats did in the 50s.  And he's talking about how to conservatives, the country they think they remember seems to be slipping away and it scares them (forget that it never actually existed).

But MAN is he saying it in a casually racist way.  "People with conventional views".  Those views aren't conventional.  Those views are racist.  He could have chosen any other way of saying it, but he chose the one that normalizes racism.  And so I think people are right to be upset.  I can see the overall point he's making, but that doesn't diminish the fashion in which he made it.


And when I look at his body of work, so to speak, I'm less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.
 
2013-11-12 02:03:54 PM
As a Whitey McWhiterson who lives with two black females(my roommate and our foster daughter), I think Cohen, and others of his ilk, can go eat the shiat out of a dead pig's ass.
 
2013-11-12 02:07:20 PM

Diogenes: DemonEater: So, he's saying that cultural conservatives might split from the GOP over racism like Dixiecrats did in the 50s.  And he's talking about how to conservatives, the country they think they remember seems to be slipping away and it scares them (forget that it never actually existed).

But MAN is he saying it in a casually racist way.  "People with conventional views".  Those views aren't conventional.  Those views are racist.  He could have chosen any other way of saying it, but he chose the one that normalizes racism.  And so I think people are right to be upset.  I can see the overall point he's making, but that doesn't diminish the fashion in which he made it.

And when I look at his body of work, so to speak, I'm less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.


Eeeeexactly.  When he's had to apologize for being racist in the past, one does start noticing his waddling gait and raspy nasal call and think that he might indeed resemble waterfowl.
 
2013-11-12 02:07:49 PM
conventional views... gag reflex... Ho ho ho, not racist at all. Just wait, it's the other thing. Racist.
 
2013-11-12 02:08:30 PM

PacManDreaming: As a Whitey McWhiterson who lives with two black females(my roommate and our foster daughter), I think Cohen, and others of his ilk, can go eat the shiat out of a dead pig's ass.


You can foster a kid with a roommate?

Roomate roommate, or "roommate" roommate?
 
2013-11-12 02:09:16 PM

DemonEater: Eeeeexactly. When he's had to apologize for being racist in the past, one does start noticing his waddling gait and raspy nasal call and think that he might indeed resemble waterfowl.


I have been assured Jews can't be racist.
 
2013-11-12 02:12:31 PM

mediablitz: TheDumbBlonde: De Blasio's wife "used to be a lesbian"? Why aren't the LGBT crowd shaming her?

Because you don't understand sexuality?


The problem with stupid assholes is it never occurs to them that other people might not be stupid assholes too.
 
2013-11-12 02:18:54 PM

Diogenes: That's because it's not their country.  It belongs to  all of us.


Bu..but Cohen said that these bigots have "conventional views"!
 
2013-11-12 02:22:34 PM
You know what makes me gag and vomit, Richard Cohen? People treating others as subpar because of their skin color. People treating others as subpar because of their sexual orientation. People treating others as subpar because of their sex, gender identity or its expression. People treating others as subpar because they are poor. In short, behavior like yours makes me gag and vomit. You just made me gag and vomit with your depraved behavior. Fark off.
 
2013-11-12 02:23:09 PM
I summed it up the other day while thining of my "non racist" Tea Party buddy who used to throw the occasional racist comment out when we hung together and still considers himself to not be a racist...

It's easy to "not be racist", it's hard to NOT be racist.
 
2013-11-12 02:24:28 PM

Diogenes: To cultural conservatives, this doesn't look like their country at all.

That's because it's not their country.  It belongs to  all of us.

It never ceases to amaze me how people can look at inclusivity of everyone and still somehow feel excluded in particular.


*Real Americans* frown on these shenanigans.
 
2013-11-12 02:24:51 PM

Diogenes: I've been with black guys and had to suppress a gag reflex.  But for an entirely different reason than skin color.


*SNORT*
 
2013-11-12 02:25:22 PM
Teabaggers aren't racist, why, some of the people who ride the bus through their neighborhoods are black.
 
2013-11-12 02:25:43 PM

mediablitz: The blogosphere is blowing UP over one sentence, seemingly unable to read the next paragraph.

This guy seems to be equally hated on all sides of the political spectrum.


Did the next paragraph read something like: "This is, of course, not true and in no way defines members of the Tea Party. They, much like myself, are pro-marriage for interracial couples and support the stable, loving homes they provide for their children." ?

If not, I can see how he might be hated, rather than called a liar (and hated) outright,
 
2013-11-12 02:25:59 PM

Rann Xerox: Diogenes: I've been with black guys and had to suppress a gag reflex.  But for an entirely different reason than skin color.

*SNORT*


Close.
 
2013-11-12 02:27:07 PM
If people of color would just up and get jobs, the Tea Party might then look on them more favorably.
 
2013-11-12 02:27:12 PM
www.troll.me

Sums it all up
 
2013-11-12 02:29:47 PM

Diogenes: Rann Xerox: Diogenes: I've been with black guys and had to suppress a gag reflex.  But for an entirely different reason than skin color.

*SNORT*

Close.


You're incorrigible.  ;-)
 
2013-11-12 02:29:48 PM
When you're in a distinct minority, you don't get to claim "conventional" views.
 
2013-11-12 02:30:12 PM
I've said it before, but it's not entirely accurate to single out the Tea Party as "racist" or "homophobic", or whatever. In a holistic sense, they're mostly just afraid of everything the 21st century has to offer.

They're aren't conservatives; they're regressives.
 
2013-11-12 02:30:20 PM

parasol: mediablitz: The blogosphere is blowing UP over one sentence, seemingly unable to read the next paragraph.

This guy seems to be equally hated on all sides of the political spectrum.

Did the next paragraph read something like: "This is, of course, not true and in no way defines members of the Tea Party. They, much like myself, are pro-marriage for interracial couples and support the stable, loving homes they provide for their children." ?

If not, I can see how he might be hated, rather than called a liar (and hated) outright,


What I meant was it seems like this guy has been hated by both sides for a while. The number of sites posting about him is crazy.

Reading through this thread, it does appear he has a history. Seems like one of those "inside the business, everyone hates him" guys...
 
2013-11-12 02:31:49 PM

mediablitz: gunslinger_RG: How about we try this. If there a two adults who fall in love and proclaim that love publicly and get married and settle down and if they want start a family, then if you can't say something nice to or about them then let it go. Your nose is not wanted in their business and then go look in the mirror and say... I am not God, so I am going to be about handling my own farkin business, and let others do the same.

As someone who spent 20 years in an interracial marriage, I find your opinion, quaint.

There are still many, MANY people who think it is "wrong". They just keep it to themselves more now, knowing their opinion isn't mainstream. I've been divorced for 5 years now. Many people who know me now don't know I was in an interracial marriage. I'm a gun toting hunter, so I'm "safe" for conversation, white girlfriend and all.

That shiat is still out there, slowly dying away...


The real question is did you, or did you not, participate in any miscegenation? Is you, or is you not, my constituency?
 
2013-11-12 02:32:00 PM

DemonEater: So, he's saying that cultural conservatives might split from the GOP over racism like Dixiecrats did in the 50s.  And he's talking about how to conservatives, the country they think they remember seems to be slipping away and it scares them (forget that it never actually existed).


"Cultural conservatives" has to be the best Luntzing of the word "racist" I've ever seen.
 
2013-11-12 02:32:26 PM
whidbey: If people of color would just up and get jobs, the Tea Party might then look on them more favorably.

Does that mean "President of the United States" isn't a job or that Obama isn't black?
 
2013-11-12 02:32:28 PM

Killer Cars: I've said it before, but it's not entirely accurate to single out the Tea Party as "racist" or "homophobic", or whatever. In a holistic sense, they're mostly just afraid of everything the 21st century has to offer.

They're aren't conservatives; they're regressives.


Right. Conservatives don't want change. Regressives want change. In reverse.
 
2013-11-12 02:32:56 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-11-12 02:33:21 PM

DarwiOdrade: TheDumbBlonde: De Blasio's wife "used to be a lesbian"? Why aren't the LGBT crowd shaming her?

Because we know better. If she used to be a lesbian, she still would be. She is bisexual - no shame in that.


Too bad the narrative on bisexuals is they're "confused" (or, just as insultingly, doing it for the attention). And "former lesbian" also makes for better headlines, so I'm sure the media is just fine with it.
 
2013-11-12 02:33:50 PM

parasol: whidbey: If people of color would just up and get jobs, the Tea Party might then look on them more favorably.

Does that mean "President of the United States" isn't a job or that Obama isn't black?


Well he wasn't supposed to get that job.
 
2013-11-12 02:34:54 PM

TheDumbBlonde: De Blasio's wife "used to be a lesbian"? Why aren't the LGBT crowd shaming her?


Because they're not retarded, I'm guessing?
 
2013-11-12 02:35:43 PM

gunslinger_RG: I still find it hard that opposition to interracial couples is even still a thing today.  I mean you would expect something like that in your dyed in the wool racist and those kind of groups but not mainstream.  Definitely from someone writing in a well known paper.  I know he was describing others reactions but "gag reflex" are his words and that he did not re-think his wording makes the point clear enough.

There are very very very few people who a pure white, black, etc.  Hell from just my ameture geneology tree, I am a mutt.  On the plus side I come from a long line of non-prejudice people.  They had sex and married everybody.

How about we try this.  If there a two adults who fall in love and proclaim that love publicly and get married and settle down and if they want start a family, then if you can't say something nice to or about them then let it go.  Your nose is not wanted in their business and then go look in the mirror and say... I am not God, so I am going to be about handling my own farkin business, and let others do the same.


When people on the side of marriage for gays say that the haters will feel as bad as the anti-mixed-marriage haters feel now, I think of people like the columnists. I am for letting any two adults who want to marry each other to have the right to do just that, but I realize that assholes do not really go away. At best, they learn their opinion is out of the mainstream, and they are not vocal about it.
 
2013-11-12 02:36:17 PM

mediablitz: Reading through this thread, it does appear he has a history.


I don't know. It's been awhile. You have to go all the way back to July for the time he compared young black men in hoodies to KKK members in full dress while defending the notion that it makes sense to be scared of black men based on their clothing...
 
2013-11-12 02:36:35 PM

inglixthemad: mediablitz: gunslinger_RG: How about we try this. If there a two adults who fall in love and proclaim that love publicly and get married and settle down and if they want start a family, then if you can't say something nice to or about them then let it go. Your nose is not wanted in their business and then go look in the mirror and say... I am not God, so I am going to be about handling my own farkin business, and let others do the same.

As someone who spent 20 years in an interracial marriage, I find your opinion, quaint.

There are still many, MANY people who think it is "wrong". They just keep it to themselves more now, knowing their opinion isn't mainstream. I've been divorced for 5 years now. Many people who know me now don't know I was in an interracial marriage. I'm a gun toting hunter, so I'm "safe" for conversation, white girlfriend and all.

That shiat is still out there, slowly dying away...

The real question is did you, or did you not, participate in any miscegenation? Is you, or is you not, my constituency?


DEM BOYS IS NOT WHITE, DEY AIN'T EVEN OLD TIMEY
 
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