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(Huffington Post)   Old news: 'Stand your ground' defense. New news: 'Storm the castle' doctrine   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 206
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2013-11-12 12:22:30 PM
annanimmity.com
 
2013-11-12 12:24:07 PM

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Damn you.
 
2013-11-12 12:41:47 PM
Sounds justified to me. She was being stabbed. Lethal force was required.
 
2013-11-12 01:31:57 PM

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That's what I came to post.  My work here is done.
 
2013-11-12 01:36:53 PM
guns
 
2013-11-12 01:38:04 PM
Obviously, it's generally a bad thing to kick in a door and shoot someone, but I think there's the occasional exception...
 
2013-11-12 01:38:07 PM
I'd storm the castle for her.
 
2013-11-12 01:38:55 PM
Well, in their defense, they wanted justice not anal probing.
 
2013-11-12 01:39:32 PM
Oh look another innocent life saved by firearms. I guess some of the statists in here would prefer she be stabbed to death.
 
2013-11-12 01:40:09 PM

Facetious_Speciest: Obviously, it's generally a bad thing to kick in a door and shoot someone, but I think there's the occasional exception...


I had assumed this would be the all to common "excessive force guy kills somebody and wingnuts rush to defend gun rights" deal but this seems pretty legit.

Maybe stupid of them not to have given the tip to the police though, but I can't blame them.  Now if they had broken in the door and shot him without an imminent threat to the woman's life, then that might be a problem.
 
2013-11-12 01:40:47 PM
www.leftgamerreview.org
 
2013-11-12 01:42:18 PM
Another thread where dems/libs will imply that 'Stand Your Ground' law was involved in the Zimmerman/Martin incident.
 
2013-11-12 01:42:23 PM
Repeat tag busy? Again?
 
2013-11-12 01:42:41 PM

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers:


Done in one, lock the thread.
 
2013-11-12 01:42:45 PM
And this is why your "best man" is supposed to be best at arms.  To protect your ass from whoever you stole your bride from.
 
2013-11-12 01:44:17 PM
If they didn't use one of these:
t2.gstatic.com
Then it was not a lawful castle stormin'.

Send the bastards to jail.
 
2013-11-12 01:44:19 PM

Doom MD: Oh look another innocent life saved by firearms. I guess some of the statists in here would prefer she be stabbed to death.


no one wants to take your gun. we just want to try to keep them out of the crazy people's hands. sure we might not stop all of them but we should at least make it more difficult don't you think?
 
2013-11-12 01:44:44 PM
And not single Fark was given that day for the deceased.
 
2013-11-12 01:44:44 PM
Have fun with that!
 
2013-11-12 01:44:59 PM

nocturnal001: Maybe stupid of them not to have given the tip to the police though, but I can't blame them


The family was out actively canvasing the neighborhood. It's entirely possible that whoever had the tip was unaware of what they knew until the family showed them a picture of the car or girl.

I think this could become one of those "WHERE WERE THE COPS!?" things, but it sounds, from the information so far, like the family and friends just happened to be that much closer.
 
2013-11-12 01:45:04 PM
There are two opposing things that stand out in this story.
1.  Why didn't the cops try harder to find this woman?  Is it because she's not a hot young white chick?  (Cue every Fark thread that ever pointed that out.)  It didn't take very long for the family to organize a posse that ended the crisis pretty much instantly.
2.  I cannot believe that there are no charges filed considering that the vigilante mob was a bunch of non-white people.  This may be the first time in history that justice actually worked out.
 
2013-11-12 01:45:11 PM

nocturnal001: Facetious_Speciest: Obviously, it's generally a bad thing to kick in a door and shoot someone, but I think there's the occasional exception...

I had assumed this would be the all to common "excessive force guy kills somebody and wingnuts rush to defend gun rights" deal but this seems pretty legit.

Maybe stupid of them not to have given the tip to the police though, but I can't blame them.  Now if they had broken in the door and shot him without an imminent threat to the woman's life, then that might be a problem.


I think that whoever gave the tip to the family knew that the cops would have most likely done jack and shiat with it. NOLA cops are pretty useless from what I've seen especially since they bailed on the search after the first night.
 
2013-11-12 01:45:24 PM
 
2013-11-12 01:45:47 PM
Hell, I'd be okay with this even if the victim wasn't being stabbed.
 
2013-11-12 01:47:26 PM
I didn't know black people could be scared pale
/I kid
 
2013-11-12 01:47:46 PM

Doom MD: Oh look another innocent life saved by firearms. I guess some of the statists in here would prefer she be stabbed to death.


There is a time and a place for guns. This was one of them.

But, not every occasion calls for armed intervention.
 
2013-11-12 01:48:16 PM
I don't have a problem with this specific case, but I'm eagerly awaiting the hordes going full retard and looking at this as a license to kill.
 
2013-11-12 01:48:48 PM
Well.. obviously the kidnapper underestimated the veracity and availability of firearms and four wheelers to the victims family.  Well played by the family.

What do you bet they had a big ole low country boil later that day to celebrate her deliverance.
 
2013-11-12 01:50:29 PM
Assuming their story is accurate. They were just out there looking and responded to screams, I see no issue with this.

But it should be thoroughly investigated by the police to confirm their story.
 
2013-11-12 01:51:28 PM

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Great minds, etc.
 
2013-11-12 01:53:19 PM

mediablitz: Sounds justified to me. She was being stabbed. Lethal force was required.


She was being stabbed by the guy who had just violently kidnapped her. Fark yeah this was jusitified.
 
2013-11-12 01:53:21 PM

Reverend J: nocturnal001: Facetious_Speciest: Obviously, it's generally a bad thing to kick in a door and shoot someone, but I think there's the occasional exception...

I had assumed this would be the all to common "excessive force guy kills somebody and wingnuts rush to defend gun rights" deal but this seems pretty legit.

Maybe stupid of them not to have given the tip to the police though, but I can't blame them.  Now if they had broken in the door and shot him without an imminent threat to the woman's life, then that might be a problem.

I think that whoever gave the tip to the family knew that the cops would have most likely done jack and shiat with it. NOLA cops are pretty useless from what I've seen especially since they bailed on the search after the first night.


To my minority friends,

If a loved one is missing or has been hurt by somebody, please use the following description:

White female, blonde, 5'8", would bang
 
2013-11-12 01:55:12 PM
if they had told the cops then girl would have been shot too
 
2013-11-12 01:57:54 PM
Ryan and Marcus Areceneaux? He messed with a Cajun woman who had brothers, uncles and cousins. That's suicide, that is.
 
2013-11-12 02:01:26 PM
Eh, he was stabbing her... I'm A-OK with the use of deadly force when there's a reasonable fear/belief of imminent bodily harm.
 
2013-11-12 02:02:42 PM

Doom MD: Oh look another innocent life saved by firearms. I guess some of the statists in here would prefer she be stabbed to death.


If the kidnapper hadn't had a firearm, she wouldn't have been kidnapped.

Try again.
 
2013-11-12 02:03:12 PM

Publikwerks: Doom MD: Oh look another innocent life saved by firearms. I guess some of the statists in here would prefer she be stabbed to death.

There is a time and a place for guns. This was one of them.

But, not every occasion calls for armed intervention.


exactly, which is the nice thing about being able to exercise your rights
 
2013-11-12 02:04:09 PM
These folks did the right thing.  I have no problem.
 
2013-11-12 02:04:13 PM

Doom MD: Oh look another innocent life saved by firearms. I guess some of the statists in here would prefer she be stabbed to death.


You: use of firearms required in all cases ranging from jaywalking to shoplifting.
Your imagined adversaries: we're coming to your house to take your guns while shouting OBAMA AKBAR.

The rest of us use reason and logic.
 
2013-11-12 02:04:24 PM

ZeroCorpse: Doom MD: Oh look another innocent life saved by firearms. I guess some of the statists in here would prefer she be stabbed to death.

If the kidnapper hadn't had a firearm, she wouldn't have been kidnapped.

Try again.


Yes. I know he didn't have a gun. But I like f♥cking with you types anyway.
 
2013-11-12 02:04:45 PM

rnatalie: I'd storm the castle for her.


Yeah, that picture sure looks a lot better than the one of her in agony covered in blood. Sorta Beyonce looking.

Also, I agree, guns.
 
2013-11-12 02:06:35 PM
There's not really any doubt they had the right guy, so I'm ok with this.
 
2013-11-12 02:06:46 PM

ZeroCorpse: Doom MD: Oh look another innocent life saved by firearms. I guess some of the statists in here would prefer she be stabbed to death.

If the kidnapper hadn't had a firearm, she wouldn't have been kidnapped.

Try again.


you're right, no way that guy would figure out a way to overpower her and take her away.

Try again.
 
2013-11-12 02:07:06 PM
This is what a justified homicide looks like.
 
2013-11-12 02:09:28 PM

Arnprior Joe: I don't have a problem with this specific case, but I'm eagerly awaiting the hordes going full retard and looking at this as a license to kill.


OH NOES, ANARCHY IN TEH STREETS!
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2013-11-12 02:09:52 PM
Done in one.

Well done indeed
 
2013-11-12 02:10:22 PM
Wait, they're all black and they got away w/ it? Man, the criminal justice system in the South has gone soft.

/just kidding
 
2013-11-12 02:10:34 PM
Good luck, I am behind 7 deadbolts!
 
2013-11-12 02:17:24 PM
Good for all involved. Solid work family.

If I faced that same situation, where one of my girls was taken from me, not the cops, not the abductor, not even GOD HIMSELF could stop me from getting them back.
 
2013-11-12 02:17:58 PM
Mark it one for the good guys....I SAID MARK IT ONE OR YOU'RE IN A WORLD OF HURT...
 
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