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(The Weekly Standard)   Kurt Schrader (M-TV) thinks Obama was misleading to the American people, Kari Wuhrer is still hot   (weeklystandard.com) divider line 82
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2013-11-12 10:04:52 AM
awesomenessbyvolume.com
 
2013-11-12 10:45:23 AM
Who what now?
 
2013-11-12 10:50:15 AM
Is there a trend of "slam Obama, get a free career re-boot" money out there now? We're seeing the creepiest folks that were popular during the Reagan era slithering out of the woodwork to "comment" on something for which they have zero credibility. It's weird.
 
2013-11-12 10:54:40 AM
Subby maybe was thinking of Kurt Loder?
 
2013-11-12 10:56:04 AM

FormlessOne: Is there a trend of "slam Obama, get a free career re-boot" money out there now? We're seeing the creepiest folks that were popular during the Reagan era slithering out of the woodwork to "comment" on something for which they have zero credibility. It's weird.


This guy was first elected to Congress in 2009. What the hell are you talking about?
 
2013-11-12 10:57:33 AM
Kari Wuhrer thread?
 
2013-11-12 10:59:09 AM

FormlessOne: Is there a trend of "slam Obama, get a free career re-boot" money out there now? We're seeing the creepiest folks that were popular during the Reagan era slithering out of the woodwork to "comment" on something for which they have zero credibility. It's weird.


Fox News auditions.
 
2013-11-12 10:59:14 AM
encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
 
2013-11-12 10:59:25 AM
Here's the essential problem with all these  "Obama Lied" claims:  he didn;t write the law, Congress did.and if they felt he was misrepresenting the law, the should have spoke up and said something LONG before now
 
2013-11-12 11:01:45 AM
I would take Kari Wuhrer over Kurt Schrader or Obama any day.
 
2013-11-12 11:05:38 AM

Arkanaut: Kari Wuhrer thread?


4.bp.blogspot.com

Yes
 
2013-11-12 11:06:53 AM

Cletus C.: FormlessOne: Is there a trend of "slam Obama, get a free career re-boot" money out there now? We're seeing the creepiest folks that were popular during the Reagan era slithering out of the woodwork to "comment" on something for which they have zero credibility. It's weird.

This guy was first elected to Congress in 2009. What the hell are you talking about?


This guy must be slimy spore mold, because he is calling out Obama.
 
2013-11-12 11:07:12 AM
I don't get it.

"I had to change policies a lot as a business owner. But some people didn't, because their insurance companies kept the plan the same. Now that this is happening in the age of the ACA, it means something."

That is a pants on head stupid position to take. Anyone who has insurance through an employer knows about yearly plan enrollment. Sometimes policies change. Sometimes they don't. Life goes on.

But mandate that everyone has to buy a policy and that policies have to meet a minimum standard and they lose their minds.
 
2013-11-12 11:08:16 AM

Magorn: Here's the essential problem with all these  "Obama Lied" claims:  he didn;t write the law, Congress did.and if they felt he was misrepresenting the law, the should have spoke up and said something LONG before now


There's a statue of limitations on falsehoods?
 
2013-11-12 11:08:17 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Subby maybe was thinking of Kurt Loder?


More like Kurt Choder, amirite?
 
2013-11-12 11:10:06 AM
img.fark.net
 
2013-11-12 11:15:30 AM
This is a thread, apparently
 
2013-11-12 11:16:30 AM

Lost Thought 00: This is a thread, apparently


One I can get behind.
 
2013-11-12 11:29:25 AM

Magorn: Here's the essential problem with all these  "Obama Lied" claims:  he didn;t write the law, Congress did.and if they felt he was misrepresenting the law, the should have spoke up and said something LONG before now


Sorry, that dog doesn't hunt.  This is Obama's turd hunt.  He owns it lock stock and barrel.  But thanks for Playing.........
 
2013-11-12 11:33:55 AM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Magorn: Here's the essential problem with all these  "Obama Lied" claims:  he didn;t write the law, Congress did.and if they felt he was misrepresenting the law, the should have spoke up and said something LONG before now

Sorry, that dog doesn't hunt.  This is Obama's turd hunt.  He owns it lock stock and barrel.  But thanks for Playing.........


Or, you can just say that:

a) if you had a policy before March 2010, you could keep it.  If the insurer changes the policy, that's their problem (and yours, if you have it).
b) If you had a policy created after March 2010 that didn't comply with ACA, then your insurer should be getting ass-raped in the media for non-compliance.

So, where is the lie again?

If business wants to f*ck around and screw you over, do you really think it's the black guy's fault?

Your saint in heaven, Roger Ailes, has commanded you to say 'yes'.  And you know it, lap dog shillmeister.
 
2013-11-12 11:34:47 AM

sendtodave: Magorn: Here's the essential problem with all these  "Obama Lied" claims:  he didn;t write the law, Congress did.and if they felt he was misrepresenting the law, the should have spoke up and said something LONG before now

There's a statue of limitations on falsehoods?


i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-11-12 11:39:03 AM
There is no doubt the president mislead people when he made that statement "if you like your current policy you can keep it"
Did he do it intentionally? Probably not, sounds like just another oversight in what has been a very poorly managed roll-out. He probably failed to comprehend that many of those policies people "liked" were no longer compliant with the new laws so the insurance companies were required to change them to remove pre-ex and life-time cap language.
 
2013-11-12 11:42:42 AM

star_topology: sendtodave: Magorn: Here's the essential problem with all these  "Obama Lied" claims:  he didn;t write the law, Congress did.and if they felt he was misrepresenting the law, the should have spoke up and said something LONG before now

There's a statue of limitations on falsehoods?


Aaah, it's funny, because of missed keystrokes and autocorrect!

Also brainfarts.

Sent from my iPad
 
2013-11-12 11:48:18 AM

monoski: There is no doubt the president mislead people when he made that statement "if you like your current policy you can keep it"
Did he do it intentionally? Probably not, sounds like just another oversight in what has been a very poorly managed roll-out. He probably failed to comprehend that many of those policies people "liked" were no longer compliant with the new laws so the insurance companies were required to change them to remove pre-ex and life-time cap language.


Actually, he did understand it, and plans that were offered before the passage of ACA were grandfathered in.  It turns out, though, that the insurance companies weren't very interested in continuing to offer them if they couldn't get new customers on them.
 
2013-11-12 11:49:36 AM

sendtodave: star_topology: sendtodave: Magorn: Here's the essential problem with all these  "Obama Lied" claims:  he didn;t write the law, Congress did.and if they felt he was misrepresenting the law, the should have spoke up and said something LONG before now

There's a statue of limitations on falsehoods?

Aaah, it's funny, because of missed keystrokes and autocorrect!

Also brainfarts.

Sent from my iPad


Rule #1: Never pass up an opportunity to drop a Seinfeld reference. ;)
 
2013-11-12 11:49:47 AM

monoski: He probably failed to comprehend that many of those policies people "liked" were no longer compliant with the new laws so the insurance companies were required to change them to remove pre-ex and life-time cap language.


Are we ignoring the whole "grandfathering" part, where policies that people "liked" that weren't compliant with the new laws were still available as long as they weren't altered by the insurance company?
 
2013-11-12 11:51:23 AM
This is the SEVENTH "Obamacare is a disaster" thread to be greened TODAY.

Is there NOTHING else going on in the world?  It's starting to smell like flop sweat and desperation.
 
2013-11-12 11:52:46 AM
He was going to tell people up front that some could get kicked out of existing plans because they didn't meet 'the new law'  standards.     But the MTV generation wasn't paying attention very much, so he cut it down to 'you get to keep it'.

So what, you get kicked out of your existing plan because it can't meet Obamacare standards.... then you are forced into enrolling in an Obamacare plan that costs more.    The economy is booming,  money is easy to come by.

Obama fails to see the problem.
 
2013-11-12 11:53:31 AM

Arkanaut: Kari Wuhrer thread?


Never heard of her but a quick GIS lead me to believe I'll have to get to know her better when I get home from work.
 
2013-11-12 11:53:33 AM
I only clicked to see if subby was right about part 2 of the headline.  There was nothing in that link about Kari Wuhrer, and I think subby was grossly misleading to the Fark public.
 
2013-11-12 11:53:46 AM
On a Politics tab-related note, Kari Wuhrer was a pretty big Randian libertarian back in the late 90s (before it was cool). I'm not sure what her politics are now.
 
2013-11-12 11:57:20 AM

Disposable Rob: On a Politics tab-related note, Kari Wuhrer was a pretty big Randian libertarian back in the late 90s (before it was cool). I'm not sure what her politics are now.


I saw a pic of her scantily clad and oiled down so I am cool with her politics.
 
2013-11-12 11:57:47 AM
Uh, oh. Slick Willie just threw Barry under the bus.

Bill Clinton says Obama should follow through on pledge to let Americans keep health coverage
 
2013-11-12 11:58:01 AM

qorkfiend: monoski: He probably failed to comprehend that many of those policies people "liked" were no longer compliant with the new laws so the insurance companies were required to change them to remove pre-ex and life-time cap language.

Are we ignoring the whole "grandfathering" part, where policies that people "liked" that weren't compliant with the new laws were still available as long as they weren't altered by the insurance company?


Yes
 
2013-11-12 11:58:40 AM

Erebus1954: Uh, oh. Slick Willie just threw Barry under the bus.

Bill Clinton says Obama should follow through on pledge to let Americans keep health coverage


So, it is time to put some distance between Sec of State Clinton and Presidential Candidate Clinton again?
 
2013-11-12 12:06:06 PM
Loved that show...

i38.tinypic.com
 
2013-11-12 12:07:08 PM
Going waaaaaaay back...

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-11-12 12:10:03 PM

Disposable Rob: On a Politics tab-related note, Kari Wuhrer was a pretty big Randian libertarian back in the late 90s (before it was cool).


Is that why she ruined Sliders?
 
2013-11-12 12:15:03 PM

Magorn: Here's the essential problem with all these  "Obama Lied" claims:  he didn;t write the law, Congress did.and if they felt he was misrepresenting the law, the should have spoke up and said something LONG before now


LOLWUT? Are you really trying to backslide on his signature piece? Jebus gawd the levels people will stoop to to make sure no shiat sticks to this guy.
Your worship is a little creepy ma'am.
 
2013-11-12 12:15:41 PM

Erebus1954: Uh, oh. Slick Willie just threw Barry under the bus.

Bill Clinton says Obama should follow through on pledge to let Americans keep health coverage


Done and done. Unless you think people are actually going from having crappy insurance to having no insurance, which would make you an idiot.
 
2013-11-12 12:19:13 PM

monoski: qorkfiend: monoski: He probably failed to comprehend that many of those policies people "liked" were no longer compliant with the new laws so the insurance companies were required to change them to remove pre-ex and life-time cap language.

Are we ignoring the whole "grandfathering" part, where policies that people "liked" that weren't compliant with the new laws were still available as long as they weren't altered by the insurance company?

Yes


So in reality, it's almost like people did comprehend that many of the policies people "liked" were no longer compliant with the new laws, so provisions were added to the law to allow people to keep the policy they "liked"?

One might even say the problem was correctly identified and steps were taken, and that the current hurr and durr has little to do with the law and everything to do with the insurance company altering their plans...
 
2013-11-12 12:22:57 PM

qorkfiend: monoski: qorkfiend: monoski: He probably failed to comprehend that many of those policies people "liked" were no longer compliant with the new laws so the insurance companies were required to change them to remove pre-ex and life-time cap language.

Are we ignoring the whole "grandfathering" part, where policies that people "liked" that weren't compliant with the new laws were still available as long as they weren't altered by the insurance company?

Yes

So in reality, it's almost like people did comprehend that many of the policies people "liked" were no longer compliant with the new laws, so provisions were added to the law to allow people to keep the policy they "liked"?

One might even say the problem was correctly identified and steps were taken, and that the current hurr and durr has little to do with the law and everything to do with the insurance company altering their plans...


Republicans start unpopular wars, keeping them off the books until a Democrat puts them back on. Republicans shut down the government at a cost of ~$24 billion. Everything's fine.

Democrats lie about blow jobs or have website failures that cost millions to fix. National scandal.
 
2013-11-12 12:26:02 PM
when Obama says something that turns out to be a bit off from what actually happens, it's news for weeks.

When the GOP does it,it's a day that ends in a "Y"
 
2013-11-12 12:34:07 PM

Hobodeluxe: when Obama says something that turns out to be a bit off from what actually happens, it's news for weeks.

When the GOP does it,it's a day that ends in a "Y"


I think when the Washington Post gives Obama four Pinocchios something is more than a bit off.

Anyway, Clinton's call for Obama to keep his promise will keep this in the news for a while.

Enjoy.
 
2013-11-12 12:35:47 PM
It is situations like this where the inability to have anything remotely (and I mean remote)  resembling a productive discussion on any level of society anymore.  Yeah politicians were always kind of full of shat but they did eventually get down to business.

A) There was obviously a miscommunication/disconnect/fark up when Obama stated in several speeches emphatically that no one would lose their health coverage.  However, it is clear now that there were some number of people holding policies that do not meet the standard necessary to qualify.  I don't think this was intentional on the Presidents part, otherwise he would not have been so emphatic on tape.  That is something that follows a president.  Get 4 people in the room and if elder Bush pops up on TV at least 1 will go.. READ MY LIPS.  That shat has staying power.

B) They obviously outsourced the  health care site to WTF corp.  So now people are getting squeezed as their old policies go away and the health exchange is still suboptimal.

Yet those poor people are farked because even though that is a legitimate problem for some American citizens, the douchebag brigade just wants to harvest their suffering to attack what was clearly some major league fark ups in the implementation of the new Health Care exchange.

I know this guy in the article is a democrat, but I also, have a hard time listening to members of the douchebag chorus complain about problems in the rollout or the numbers signing up.  Because they have used every possible mean spirited dick move to cause exactly that, but what makes it WORSE is that American Citizens, Citizens of THEIR STATE, human beings are going to find themselves locked out of the process even if and when this all gets ironed out. Because they opted out of the medicaid expansion.

Exactly, on what planet would we expect a perfect rollout of a system this size for a nation our size that involves the government and it go perfectly.  The real problem here is that contingency actions to help Americans caught up in some unforeseen situation is not going to happen.
 
2013-11-12 12:35:47 PM

Hobodeluxe: when Obama says something that turns out to be a bit off from what actually happens, it's news for weeks.

When the GOP does it,it's a day that ends in a "Y"


So true,  the bad GOP and the media make it out to be 'Obama lies'   and in reality we all know he was just 'a bit off from what actually happens'.


/
giggle... snort
 
2013-11-12 12:38:27 PM
I just found this old, poor-quality video of the 1988 version of Remote Control on You Tube.  Kari (not Kerry) shows up throughout the video, but makes her biggest appearance at around 6:20.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_atfbf8InvA

Also just found out that Ken Ober, the emcee, died somewhat mysteriously in 2009, at the age of 52.
 
2013-11-12 12:41:50 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Erebus1954: Uh, oh. Slick Willie just threw Barry under the bus.

Bill Clinton says Obama should follow through on pledge to let Americans keep health coverage

Done and done. Unless you think people are actually going from having crappy insurance to having no insurance, which would make you an idiot.


As with anything Slick William style, you've gotta look for the subtext.

What he was saying was, "psst, Barry. Single payer like yesterday."
 
2013-11-12 12:48:26 PM
Erebus1954:

Anyway, Clinton's call for Obama to keep his promise will keep this in the news for a while.

Enjoy.


Psst... he isn't the president.
 
2013-11-12 12:51:53 PM

coeyagi: Your saint in heaven, Roger Ailes, has commanded you to say 'yes'.  And you know it, lap dog shillmeister.


Nooooo...evul libruhls are the one with their messiah 0bummer! They never speak bad of him!


Meanwhile, conservatives are quick to speak out against Fox, Rush, Beck, and other conservative talking heads the instant they say something wrong!!!

/wait a sec...
 
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