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(Pleasanton Weekly)   Tom Cushing ("Moderator emeritus on the popular news and humor website www.Fark.com") writes about his current love/hate relationship with NFL football - "I'm no longer ready for some football"   (pleasantonweekly.com) divider line 27
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2013-11-12 09:31:24 AM  
Which mod?  Any way, yeah, the NFL has lost some luster, I'll really pay attention closer to playoffs.

/being a Raiders fan may have something to do with that
//it's hard to be a Raiders fan.....
 
2013-11-12 10:04:45 AM  
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2013-11-12 10:11:07 AM  
The fundamental problem is fitting 180 minutes of commercials into a 3 hour game.
 
2013-11-12 11:24:57 AM  
Being a Dolphins fan will do that to you, and very timely as of last night's game, along with the fact that no sports talk host in Boston would talk about Boston sports last week because of this Richie Incognito thing.

Steroids have been around since at least the Steelers got their rings in the 70's.  The chemistry problem, while legitimate, still has the NFL on an even playing field, so to speak.  I'd understand if you're stuck on the morality/ legal / hypocritical approach to that issue, particularly if you're trying to figure out what to say to a kid when he asks about PED's and you have no answer.  Aside from saying "Lyle Alzado", steroids are winning.

But I still love the NFL.  You're hard-pressed to find the Payton or Jim Brown vs. Butkus or Bednarik style runner vs. linebacker games, though they do exist.  It's the Brees/Rodgers/Manning/Brady guys who you have to watch and appreciate, along with the giant wide receivers who can bench press a truck while catching a pass in the corner of the endzone - almost out - while keeping both feet in bounds   Andre Johnson's touchdown this weekend (yes, in a losing effort) was something amazing you would likely never have seen 20+ years ago.  It's getting to the point where coordinators can design a play where a quarterback throws a ball 2 yards out of bounds knowing only his receiver can catch it.

The TV timeouts are definitely a problem.  The score / commercial / kickoff / commercial thing has just got to end.  That would seemingly eliminate half of the flow problems.  After that, the commercial after almost every single change of possession has to be addressed.  And if you think it's bad on TV, go to a game.  It's worse!  You watch players standing around for seeingly no reason at all.

Awesome article.
 
2013-11-12 11:45:19 AM  
Is this the power rankings thread?
 
2013-11-12 12:24:42 PM  
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2013-11-12 01:38:36 PM  
I always type about stuff that Im too cool to watch too. Its the FARK way. I blame Incognito.
 
2013-11-12 03:05:40 PM  
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2013-11-12 03:55:49 PM  
It's depressing to look at the defensive stars from games like Tecmo Bowl, guys I grew up watching, and realize half of them aren't in the Hall of Fame due to PEDs.  Dexter Manley is the biggest name that comes to mind.  It's sad to think how such things have changed the game.

I'm not impressed with the current crop of all-star QBs.  They are nowhere near as impressive as Elway, Marino or Montana were when I was growing up.  Dan Marino's pass record still stands to me because when he set it, the defenders were all over receivers so that the only window was smaller than the ball, and Dan still completed passes.  The most impressive catch this week that gave me this nostalgia was Golden Tate's one-handed catch in the corner of the end zone because the defender was holding and interfering with his other arm.  It looked like something from the 80's.

I would rather see a close game of either defenses dominating or offenses shooting it out, like the 49ers/Panthers or the Broncos/Cowboys games this season.  It adds excitement to the game that is lost when one team is just outclassed on all sides like the New Orleans or Seattle victories.

As for the ebb and flow of the game itself compared to others, one way to change that would be to shorten the play clock from 40 seconds to 25.  Clearly, teams have too much time on their hands if so many are just standing around, particularly on the defense waiting for the offense to do something.  A shorter clock would be a decent motivator.  Forget about the match-ups the coordinators want and just play with what's on the field.
 
2013-11-12 04:11:12 PM  
Football is always a give or take proposition.  You know that you support horrible owners and an organization that churns out bodies like crazy, but it is still enjoyable.  Instead of boycotting, though, it may be better to become politically active.  Advocate for retired players.  Let everyone know about CTE.  Fight against ridiculous stadium proposals.
 
2013-11-12 04:14:17 PM  
Want to save football? Remove the extensive body armor these guys wear. Play raw.
 
2013-11-12 04:34:15 PM  

harleyquinnical: I'm not impressed with the current crop of all-star QBs. They are nowhere near as impressive as Elway, Marino or Montana were when I was growing up. Dan Marino's pass record still stands to me because when he set it, the defenders were all over receivers so that the only window was smaller than the ball, and Dan still completed passes. The most impressive catch this week that gave me this nostalgia was Golden Tate's one-handed catch in the corner of the end zone because the defender was holding and interfering with his other arm. It looked like something from the 80's.


I think that if you asked kids growing up now if their favorite players were any good they'd tell you about how good they are.Same as if some old person who loved Otto Graham had asked you if Montana or Marino or Elway was any good youd have told him how good they were. Every generation gets its share of stars.
 
2013-11-12 05:02:45 PM  
Yeah, whatever.

You'll come back when your team starts winning again.
 
2013-11-12 05:04:09 PM  

mikaloyd: I think that if you asked kids growing up now if their favorite players were any good they'd tell you about how good they are.Same as if some old person who loved Otto Graham had asked you if Montana or Marino or Elway was any good youd have told him how good they were. Every generation gets its share of stars.


I'll buy that since changes in the rules enable players from one generation to thrive more than others for a given position.  I know most statements about the greatness of a player are subjective while the stats are objective, but it just seems rule changes, especially the ones regarding pass defense, turn that objectivity more subjective.  Then again, the NFL is constantly changing.
 
2013-11-12 05:08:35 PM  
The game seems increasingly ponderous - five or ten seconds of frantic action, followed each time by minutes of lull (and that doesn't even count the TV time-outs).

DVR it... IT works for me, I don't even start the game until about 1/2 an hour late, then I can always skip through the 4th replay of the catch that really didn't matter, or the dumb interview with some player on the sidelines... Add some pausing for bathroom breaks, or to get something for the kids, and 1/2 and hour just about lets me finish the game without having to sit through commercials.

Keep in mind, that's 1/2 an hour after the game starts, that stupid 10 minutes of yammering about the game I want to watch is getting as bad as sitting through commercials.
 
2013-11-12 05:14:50 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: The fundamental problem is fitting 180 minutes of commercials into a 3 hour game.


Easy when there's only 11 minutes of actual game activity. The only thing commercials are competing with is the 2 hours and 49 minutes of people standing around doing nothing.
 
2013-11-12 07:46:05 PM  
TFA and a lot of people in this thread are whiny biatches.

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2013-11-12 07:54:13 PM  

mikaloyd: harleyquinnical: I'm not impressed with the current crop of all-star QBs. They are nowhere near as impressive as Elway, Marino or Montana were when I was growing up. Dan Marino's pass record still stands to me because when he set it, the defenders were all over receivers so that the only window was smaller than the ball, and Dan still completed passes. The most impressive catch this week that gave me this nostalgia was Golden Tate's one-handed catch in the corner of the end zone because the defender was holding and interfering with his other arm. It looked like something from the 80's.

I think that if you asked kids growing up now if their favorite players were any good they'd tell you about how good they are.Same as if some old person who loved Otto Graham had asked you if Montana or Marino or Elway was any good youd have told him how good they were. Every generation gets its share of stars.


Music threads. They need you.
 
2013-11-12 08:18:05 PM  
OK. What is Tom Cushings Fark handle?
 
2013-11-12 08:27:33 PM  

abhorrent1: TFA and a lot of people in this thread are whiny biatches.

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2013-11-12 08:28:59 PM  

WTFDYW: OK. What is Tom Cushings Fark handle?


This.

//just curious
 
2013-11-12 09:05:01 PM  

John Buck 41: WTFDYW: OK. What is Tom Cushings Fark handle?

This.

//just curious


I can only remember the names of 2 of them. BM and Mike. However, a fark handle comes up every now and then that is simply "Moderator". Perhaps that is him. Maybe he's the adult in the house.
 
2013-11-12 09:26:54 PM  

WTFDYW: "Moderator". Perhaps that is him.


This is a myth
 
2013-11-12 09:32:45 PM  

libranoelrose: WTFDYW: "Moderator". Perhaps that is him.

This is a myth


If you see the handle, check the profile. it's from 2001, I think and has moderator/ administrator next to the handle.
 
2013-11-12 10:17:53 PM  
Chemicals. Get rid of them or the game.

Additionally, stop tv coverage of fat old guys up high calling down plays from high above. A static camera shot of a static person staring back at a camera is not at all interesting.

Less commercials, more reviews of previous plays and other educational delights.

Also, fewer timeouts for each team, fewer tv timeouts and a shorter play clock. Even 5 seconds would make a world of difference.

Ban for life for serious infractions.
 
2013-11-13 06:04:31 AM  
1. Get rid of cliche-spitting announcers.

2. The game should not be subject to TV timeouts.  The game and the action should dictate the TV timeouts.

3. The emotion of the game is now secondary to the marketing of the game.

4. Let the players play.

5. Ban ESPN
 
2013-11-13 08:55:26 AM  

SauronWasFramed: Want to save football? Remove the extensive body armor these guys wear. Play raw.


Or enforce the spearing rule, which has been around since forever and is not enforced.
 
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