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(Vice)   Doctors in Canada can no longer prescribe heroin. In other news, doctors in Canada have been prescribing heroin   (vice.com) divider line 24
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2013-11-12 07:16:04 AM
"Can" and "have been" are two different things
 
2013-11-12 07:46:40 AM
This must make the Mayor of Toronto sad.
 
2013-11-12 07:47:30 AM
cdn.uproxx.com
 
2013-11-12 07:50:20 AM
Isn't methadone or subox-whatever pretty much the same as H? (only harder to kick)...
 
2013-11-12 07:52:17 AM
Is heroin useful even in paliative care?  Does it help any more than morphine?
 
2013-11-12 07:52:41 AM
Too bad.  Heroin maintenance programs probably negate a good amount of public and personal harm, given fresh needles, verified ingredients and dosages and access to treatment programs.
 
2013-11-12 07:56:24 AM
This is all part of the conservative outrage over Vancouver's safe injection site, a model that should spread across the country.  Harm reduction seems to be a much better method of dealing with drug addicts (not necessarily drug addiction) than criminal charges.
 
2013-11-12 07:56:45 AM
Perhaps the health lady could move to Quebec where the phrase "Let Them Eat Cake" is turned out in the original French and sounds so much more classy.
 
2013-11-12 07:56:55 AM
Fear of other grown-up people doing harmful things to themselves needs some form of '-phobia' moniker.
 
2013-11-12 07:59:34 AM

bump: Isn't methadone or subox-whatever pretty much the same as H? (only harder to kick)...


No. Real heroin is acetylized morphine. For some goddamn reason, a relatively simple cooking process with acetic acid will turn morphine into something approx. six times stronger by weight, and highly euphoric in it's effects (which is why Mr. Bayer, yes the aspirin guy, named it hero-in). And that's with about an 80-85% yield.
It is the prince of drugs, and frankly a great high, and anybody who tells you different is a f**king liar.
It isn't even remotely comparable to the horrible synthetic garbage Big Pharma shiats out it's a$$hole. Oxy and Methadone and fentanyl and all that test tube crap makes you feel awful, a high fit only for the same kind of trailer trash that like meth.
 
2013-11-12 08:07:14 AM

JasonOfOrillia: This is all part of the conservative outrage over Vancouver's safe injection site, a model that should spread across the country.  Harm reduction seems to be a much better method of dealing with drug addicts (not necessarily drug addiction) than criminal charges.


I'm addicted to alcohol. Where's my free bottle of Wisers?
 
2013-11-12 08:11:41 AM

hitmanric: JasonOfOrillia: This is all part of the conservative outrage over Vancouver's safe injection site, a model that should spread across the country.  Harm reduction seems to be a much better method of dealing with drug addicts (not necessarily drug addiction) than criminal charges.

I'm addicted to alcohol. Where's my free bottle of Wisers?


Alcohol is legal, so the official government position is "fark you, pay me".
 
2013-11-12 08:17:12 AM
The British Columbia doctors who asked to prescribe heroin weren't planning to have "socialist bloodsuckers" help them to "hand out drugs to our kids," as one Conservative MP seems to think.

Ah the modern Canadian Conservative. Trying their darn tootiness to out derp their Tea Party heroes. Check out some of the Canuckian news forum comments from their "supporters*". They rag on the candidate who is likely going to knock them out of power because he admitted (freely) that he had smoked pot at a backyard BBQ while serving as an MP and did a few lines of coke as a young man therefore he is an ebil drug fiend who'd gonna get their chilluns hooked on goofballs. In the same breath they turn around and scream how it isn't anyone's business if Rob Ford smokes crack, drives drunk, uses his paid goons to extort people and threaten to murder his enemies (and quite possible has) all the while lying to his constituents (and the world) about every last bit of it. That's HIS personal life. Give the man some privacy you drugged out commie poopchute humpers!

*paid shills/CPC interns
 
2013-11-12 08:50:40 AM

bump: Isn't methadone or subox-whatever pretty much the same as H? (only harder to kick)...


It's part of a chain of related drugs: opium -> morphine -> heroin -> methadone. It's not actually harder to kick, though: still very difficult, but the withdrawal symptoms are much less dangerous. That's why it's commonly prescribed for people addicted to opiates higher up the chain; they essentially transfer their addictions over to methadone (because it's similar enough that you can do that), and then try to kick the methadone rather than directly kicking what they were addicted to before.

IIRC, they've recently developed another drug further down the chain, allowing methadone to be used as an intermediate step.
 
2013-11-12 09:15:53 AM
Diamorphine.  A&E use it for immediate relief of pain.  Especially on kids.
 
2013-11-12 09:24:30 AM
i.dailymail.co.uk
www.opioids.com
 
2013-11-12 09:25:09 AM
orcz.com
 
2013-11-12 10:57:18 AM
Giving addicts heroin! What could go wrong?
 
2013-11-12 11:14:15 AM

ranken: Giving addicts heroin! What could go wrong?


They'd get a safe, untainted, medically portioned/supervised fix from compassionate people concerned about their health and getting them the help they need to reduce or eliminate their intake as opposed to from violent street pushers who want them to use MORE of their dirty product even if it means the customer has to rob little old ladies or sell their sexy bits and catch hep/AIDS because they are forced to share needles with sketchballs?

All terrible things. These quacks must be STOPPED!!
 
2013-11-12 12:24:20 PM

ranken: Giving addicts heroin! What could go wrong?


Consider it a group insurance policy for law-abiding citizens. When addicts can get their fix in a safe, controlled manner, society saves a fortune on losses due to theft. There is also a decrease in the number of robberies and the injuries related to them. Not to mention taking money out of the hands of the street dealers, and reducing the incentives for them to engage in turf wars. The savings in giving indigent care to people contracting diseases from unsafe conditions is just icing on the cake.

Puritanism is the ONLY valid argument against providing junkies with safe drugs and a place to do them. There is no valid financial argument against it in the long run.
 
2013-11-12 01:09:40 PM
It is a highly effective pain killer with only one known drawback: addiction.

In general, opium based analgesics are not prescribed except on patient's instruction, because they are too cheap.  Doctors make more money selling something new, artificial, having more side effects and more prone to be habit forming.
 
2013-11-12 01:33:18 PM

Pangea: ranken: Giving addicts heroin! What could go wrong?

Consider it a group insurance policy for law-abiding citizens. When addicts can get their fix in a safe, controlled manner, society saves a fortune on losses due to theft. There is also a decrease in the number of robberies and the injuries related to them. Not to mention taking money out of the hands of the street dealers, and reducing the incentives for them to engage in turf wars. The savings in giving indigent care to people contracting diseases from unsafe conditions is just icing on the cake.

Puritanism is the ONLY valid argument against providing junkies with safe drugs and a place to do them. There is no valid financial argument against it in the long run.


Exactly. I am getting pretty freaking sick of having to worry about some junkie robbing me at knife point out of desperation or psychotic gangbanger causing me grief because they think I looked at them the wrong way or just need a victim to gain the respect of their "peers".

I don't like junkies. I don't like crack/cokeheads. I don't like tweakers. Hell I don't even really like potheads anymore. The BEST and EASIEST way to make it so law abiding people don't have to deal with them is to just give them their sh*t in a safe, out of the place way to do it without legal repercussions.

They constantly tell us that if you get confronted on the street just hand over your wallet or whatever the f*ck it is they want then call the cops to report it. You know what? F*ck that. YOU, as the GOVERNMENT, give them what they want. We are SICK of living in fear of nonsensical violence and getting our sh*t stolen just because of some moralistic, political cockf*ckery.

Not only that... it has been PROVEN time and time again that if you take the threat of arrest and the constant monetary burden of feeding an addiction out of the equation MANY if not MOST of these people can turn their lives around and become productive members of society. Puritanical bullsh*t only stresses them out more which makes them need their fix more which makes them thug out more.

F*ck it all. Goddamned f*cking joke. Meanwhile people who need legitimate pain relief are treated like criminals, have to jump through a million hoops to prove they aren't some dirtbag and are generally dehumanized and for all their efforts given expensive and unnecessarily toxic meds.

I hate this debate so much. The damage done by this looooong term prohibition will take DECADES if not longer (or ever) to heal even if fully reversed today. We STILL have to deal with the criminal empires that alcohol prohibition propped up and that was a MUCH shorter ban on the substance.

But then the politcos and cops would lose their scare tactic campaigns to acquire more power and money at the expense of the average numbskull.

F*CK!
 
2013-11-12 03:05:18 PM

here to help: F*CK!


I hear you. I think the recent trends with marijuana decriminalization is going to help.

As much I don't want anyone to get ill, and my dad had a massive heart attack that we suspect was related to Vioxx, we also needs pharmaceuticals that kill people. There needs to be something heavy that forces people to understand that just because it's prescription medicine, doesn't mean it's safe.
 
2013-11-12 06:27:56 PM
Except that one guy you all have this issue so right.
 
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